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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,973
    think the sensors mistook the snowflakes as obstacles and the car literally kept stopping very abruptly.

    Have you had your Volvo stop you yet? I was backing up toward another parked car and I guess the sensors thought I was going to quickly for how close I was... BAM full hard stop. Scared the heck out of me.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    I haven’t had it happen in the Volvo yet, but yes, it’s a scary experience. Pretty much feels like you hit something.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,973
    Yes, I thought I did!

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    Having the radar cruise sensor get dirty and the cruise beep at you and disconnect feels weird enough!
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    I reran the numbers with Carvana, they are up, but not by much; still way behind Vroom, but around where Carmax through Edmunds was (online carmax appraisal offer; first time not in person).

    I guess that's my answer, sell and take the money from VROOM!
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    will actually call AFS tomorrow. I ran the scheme concept past the wife tonight. she latched right onto the idea of getting money out of the deal. I explained it might be a wash at best but payments would go away. She still seemed to be onboard. Considering how little she drives by herself now, and it is her car staying if the deal happens, she really doesn't care.

    Still not thinking the numbers in the end will work, but if I can get an in-stone offer to pick it up and not have it cost me anything, I probably do it.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    I got a text from the broker I leased my Tacoma through. He said that a few of his clients that leased Tacomas through him in 2019 are making out very well. One person walked away with $1,500 and another about $4K.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    now I am getting my hopes up. That, usually ends badly.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    nyccarguy said:

    I got a text from the broker I leased my Tacoma through. He said that a few of his clients that leased Tacomas through him in 2019 are making out very well. One person walked away with $1,500 and another about $4K.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    nyccarguy said:

    stickguy said:

    At those priced, ignore the cracks and just fill in the holes with readymix?

    The driveway needed to be replaced 10 years ago when we moved in. It is crumbling and COMPLETELY shot now.
    I spoke to my brother about the work he had done a couple of months ago. His was 1600 sq ft and involved all the same work you are getting (remove old, drop new gravel and compact, new asphalt) except for the Belgian blocks.He got it for $6500 Cdn and he thinks he got a very good deal.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    I lied... Vroom lowered their offer by about $200. Likely due to the 250 strict mileage rule. Annoying, especially since the email said my renewed old quote was good for 2 more days and I TOLD THE PHONE REP I drove like 350 miles since my last quote.
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    nyccarguy said:

    I got a text from the broker I leased my Tacoma through. He said that a few of his clients that leased Tacomas through him in 2019 are making out very well. One person walked away with $1,500 and another about $4K.

    I actually punched my 2020 Tundra into Carvana and they offered $44,141. I have no clue what the payoff is, but probably fairly close to that. I'd pull the trigger in a heartbeat if the redesigned Tundra were out and was leasing well.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Dad’s F250 finally left my driveway today. Buyer seemed happy. Supposedly he is trading the plow for body work. Go figure.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,973
    What is this? Chronic Car Sellers?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    tjc78 said:

    What is this? Chronic Car Sellers?

    Gotta sell to buy. Lol

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    I definitely have to move one out before I can think about bringing another one in.

    man, I really want to have an empty garage bay staring me in the face every day. The thought of being able to research/look/shop, is enticing. Need something to get energized about in this crappy year.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    With two kids driving, one at home full time and the other at our home half the time, plus the newly added MINI, I’m getting good at maneuvering the Supra and Volvo around the driveway.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689
    stickguy said:

    will actually call AFS tomorrow. I ran the scheme concept past the wife tonight. she latched right onto the idea of getting money out of the deal. I explained it might be a wash at best but payments would go away. She still seemed to be onboard. Considering how little she drives by herself now, and it is her car staying if the deal happens, she really doesn't care.

    Still not thinking the numbers in the end will work, but if I can get an in-stone offer to pick it up and not have it cost me anything, I probably do it.

    It really seems like the best move for you. You don't use it, you're paying for it, and you don't love it either. I don't see a downside here, aside from the occasional inconvenience of a single vehicle.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689
    andres3 said:

    I lied... Vroom lowered their offer by about $200. Likely due to the 250 strict mileage rule. Annoying, especially since the email said my renewed old quote was good for 2 more days and I TOLD THE PHONE REP I drove like 350 miles since my last quote.

    No crying over spilled milk. Take it and run!
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    pretty much exactly that.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    xwesx said:

    stickguy said:

    will actually call AFS tomorrow. I ran the scheme concept past the wife tonight. she latched right onto the idea of getting money out of the deal. I explained it might be a wash at best but payments would go away. She still seemed to be onboard. Considering how little she drives by herself now, and it is her car staying if the deal happens, she really doesn't care.

    Still not thinking the numbers in the end will work, but if I can get an in-stone offer to pick it up and not have it cost me anything, I probably do it.

    It really seems like the best move for you. You don't use it, you're paying for it, and you don't love it either. I don't see a downside here, aside from the occasional inconvenience of a single vehicle.
    Hard to believe it's been a year since I turned in the Jetta and started sharing the Outback.

    Hasn't really been a problem, since the wife rarely takes the Subaru herself; she rides with her daughter in the MINI the majority of the time.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    edited August 2020
    A SAABlazer. Actually not bad looking. Miles and price don’t seem terrible. Interesting spare/beater/dog transport wheels option.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-saab-9~7x-awd_4dr_i6-used-5s3et13s472804374.html

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    I know we love to share our opinions, and this member is looking for some:

    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/62735/volvo/xc60/volvo-xc60-vs-bw-x3#latest

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    stickguy said:

    A SAABlazer. Actually not bad looking. Miles and price don’t seem terrible. Interesting spare/beater/dog transport wheels option.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-saab-9~7x-awd_4dr_i6-used-5s3et13s472804374.html

    Drive one and you'll change your opinion. It is awful.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,906
    All of this Carvana sales talk made me look.

    Current value of the GTI is over $1000 more than I paid for it, in February.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    Well, for the right person it could be a good option. But no, I’ve never driven one and would likely hate it.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    qbrozen said:

    stickguy said:

    A SAABlazer. Actually not bad looking. Miles and price don’t seem terrible. Interesting spare/beater/dog transport wheels option.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-saab-9~7x-awd_4dr_i6-used-5s3et13s472804374.html

    Drive one and you'll change your opinion. It is awful.
    Is the 5.3 any better?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    It’s louder! JRgo is putting an LS out of a 9-7x in his ‘67 camaro.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    corvette said:


    qbrozen said:

    stickguy said:

    A SAABlazer. Actually not bad looking. Miles and price don’t seem terrible. Interesting spare/beater/dog transport wheels option.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-saab-9~7x-awd_4dr_i6-used-5s3et13s472804374.html

    Drive one and you'll change your opinion. It is awful.
    Is the 5.3 any better?
    It isn't an engine problem, it is a quality problem. It doesn't feel any better than a '90s Chevy SUV.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    That blue is probably the best Model 3 color. Far too many white and black ones in my neighborhood.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    qbrozen said:

    corvette said:


    qbrozen said:

    stickguy said:

    A SAABlazer. Actually not bad looking. Miles and price don’t seem terrible. Interesting spare/beater/dog transport wheels option.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2007-saab-9~7x-awd_4dr_i6-used-5s3et13s472804374.html

    Drive one and you'll change your opinion. It is awful.
    Is the 5.3 any better?
    It isn't an engine problem, it is a quality problem. It doesn't feel any better than a '90s Chevy SUV.
    Well, that’s because it pretty much is a 90’s Chevy SUV.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    I need to get on the phone this afternoon!

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    I like Tesla’s red metallic as well.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689

    Vroom upped the offer on the Outback another $750...

    You better stop looking before you do something the wife will make you regret! ;)
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457

    Vroom upped the offer on the Outback another $750...

    I'm afraid to look. I'd have to replace it with something...

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,725
    Check arrived @1pm today.

    To sum up the process, got a quote Sunday August 16 and submitted it.
    Got an email back that paperwork was being sent.
    Got email with documents to fill out on August 21.
    Paperwork arrived Friday Aug 21, sent back same day.
    Receipt of paperwork sent to me Monday August 24.
    Contacted by carrier to take truck on Tuesday evening August 25.
    Carrier took truck Wednesday morning August 26.
    Check arrived Thursday August 27.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    plugged in the X2 for fun.
    Buyout, sans tax, is about $26,250.
    Carvana offered $25,200.
    Vroom offered $23,208.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    Michaell said:
    Answered him... IMO, he has a tough road ahead. As I noted, the powertrain is outdated, and the main selling points for the current Tundra are Toyota's reliability reputation and the killer lease deals available.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    corvette said:

    Michaell said:
    Answered him... IMO, he has a tough road ahead. As I noted, the powertrain is outdated, and the main selling points for the current Tundra are Toyota's reliability reputation and the killer lease deals available.
    Much appreciated!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    corvette said:

    Michaell said:
    Answered him... IMO, he has a tough road ahead. As I noted, the powertrain is outdated, and the main selling points for the current Tundra are Toyota's reliability reputation and the killer lease deals available.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlv8yf_trHY

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,973
    tifighter said:

    breld said:

    With two kids driving, one at home full time and the other at our home half the time, plus the newly added MINI, I’m getting good at maneuvering the Supra and Volvo around the driveway.

    I feel like I'm always playing musical cars on our driveway.
    Wife - Can I drive the blue one?

    Ha Ha... My car and my Mom's is white. The Enclave's replacement may be as well (if I have anything to do with it).

    Wife isn't giving much opinion on the Enclave's replacement. I was thinking of staying with GM but not sure if I want another Buick. GM Financial has a $2500 loyalty but it's attached to Buick models only. IMO that's kind of silly as GMC and Buick usually share the same dealer and captive finance company.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,586
    breld said:

    With two kids driving, one at home full time and the other at our home half the time, plus the newly added MINI, I’m getting good at maneuvering the Supra and Volvo around the driveway.

    I would not want your insurance premium. With one 18 yr old driver, a 14, 7, and 4 year old cars, clean driving records, our insurance premium is a lot higher than I ever imagined. I do have full coverage on all and $500 deductible.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    sda said:

    breld said:

    With two kids driving, one at home full time and the other at our home half the time, plus the newly added MINI, I’m getting good at maneuvering the Supra and Volvo around the driveway.

    I would not want your insurance premium. With one 18 yr old driver, a 14, 7, and 4 year old cars, clean driving records, our insurance premium is a lot higher than I ever imagined. I do have full coverage on all and $500 deductible.
    Check with your agent on what a deductible increase would do to your premium.

    When my step kids got their license, we explained to them that they had to have savings equal to the deductible, and if they were in an at-fault accident, their savings would be used. This meant they had skin in the game.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    We like red and blue around here.
    Last red car before Tesla-

    Last blue car before Tesla-

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    We took @Michaell's advice, with three 16-year-olds, enough said...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,457
    Email from the dealer to buy the Outback - their offer was $17,230.

    Had to run it through Vroom - they will give me $18,947.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    so, ran the car again. the difference in 0 accidents and 1 accident (which oddly, they ask nothing about) was $6,500. so I called, got escalated to a specialist, who said if it was minor and fixed to be perfect (as it was) to not worry about it. Seemed odd, but the call was recorded. He did appreciate being honest and mentioning it!

    so based on not taking the haircut, after getting the dealer payout amount from AFS, if there were no adjustments for that or a curbed wheel (no place to disclose that either, but could be issue at inspection) I could flip out 15 months early and collect $1,500 for my trouble.

    will be pouring the wife an IPA with dinner to float this whole scheme past her, but we may becoming a 1 car family shortly.

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