Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

It should be comparable to my Elantra, which was quite quick for a little car, but I doubt you are dropping into the 5’s.

When I finally get another car, I want something like this. Not overly low, but compact size and with a hatch and usable cargo area. Quick enough to be entertaining, good handling, and still respectable MPG. With the tech and convenience goodies I want but nothing over the top. And for a reasonable price.

Michaell

kyfdx said:

Tomorrow, going to a Derby week, BMW corporate driving event, at Kentucky Speedway.

They had three different options, but by the time I read the email, just one was left.

0-60 experience (sort of a drag strip kind of thing)
Follow BMW pro driver on the actual track (I would have picked this)
Autocross course

Autocross was the only one left (which I've never done).

I expect to suck at it, but on the plus side? All vehicles are new BMW M2 competition coupes!

So, don't look for me on Edmunds, tomorrow afternoon.

I was invited to a BMW event a couple of years ago - I was able to participate in both the "follow the driver" and autocross events.

The autocross was pretty fun - low speeds but you get a real feel for the handling. I took the course in both a 60-series Gran Coupe and an X2. There was an M4 available, but all the flat-brimmed bros were fighting for time behind the wheel.

kyfdx

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

Tomorrow, going to a Derby week, BMW corporate driving event, at Kentucky Speedway.

They had three different options, but by the time I read the email, just one was left.

0-60 experience (sort of a drag strip kind of thing)
Follow BMW pro driver on the actual track (I would have picked this)
Autocross course

Autocross was the only one left (which I've never done).

I expect to suck at it, but on the plus side? All vehicles are new BMW M2 competition coupes!

So, don't look for me on Edmunds, tomorrow afternoon.

I was invited to a BMW event a couple of years ago - I was able to participate in both the "follow the driver" and autocross events.

The autocross was pretty fun - low speeds but you get a real feel for the handling. I took the course in both a 60-series Gran Coupe and an X2. There was an M4 available, but all the flat-brimmed bros were fighting for time behind the wheel.

I'm hoping they get some no-shows, and maybe I'll get to do the track thing, too.

Weather: 77 and no precipitation, so it should be really nice.

kyfdx

Tacoma alert

TFS residuals actually went up 3% this month for the 2020 Off-Road and Sport trims.

tjc78

kyfdx said:

Tacoma alert

TFS residuals actually went up 3% this month for the 2020 Off-Road and Sport trims.

Pretty soon they will be paying you to lease Tacos.

Those killer Tundra deals are also very, very enticing.

roadburner

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

Tomorrow, going to a Derby week, BMW corporate driving event, at Kentucky Speedway.

They had three different options, but by the time I read the email, just one was left.

0-60 experience (sort of a drag strip kind of thing)
Follow BMW pro driver on the actual track (I would have picked this)
Autocross course

Autocross was the only one left (which I've never done).

I expect to suck at it, but on the plus side? All vehicles are new BMW M2 competition coupes!

So, don't look for me on Edmunds, tomorrow afternoon.

I was invited to a BMW event a couple of years ago - I was able to participate in both the "follow the driver" and autocross events.

The autocross was pretty fun - low speeds but you get a real feel for the handling. I took the course in both a 60-series Gran Coupe and an X2. There was an M4 available, but all the flat-brimmed bros were fighting for time behind the wheel.

I’m headed there today with my son; we are going with the BMW of Cincinnati North group as I wasn’t able to go with my dealer.

kyfdx

roadburner said:

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

Tomorrow, going to a Derby week, BMW corporate driving event, at Kentucky Speedway.

They had three different options, but by the time I read the email, just one was left.

0-60 experience (sort of a drag strip kind of thing)
Follow BMW pro driver on the actual track (I would have picked this)
Autocross course

Autocross was the only one left (which I've never done).

I expect to suck at it, but on the plus side? All vehicles are new BMW M2 competition coupes!

So, don't look for me on Edmunds, tomorrow afternoon.

I was invited to a BMW event a couple of years ago - I was able to participate in both the "follow the driver" and autocross events.

The autocross was pretty fun - low speeds but you get a real feel for the handling. I took the course in both a 60-series Gran Coupe and an X2. There was an M4 available, but all the flat-brimmed bros were fighting for time behind the wheel.

I’m headed there today with my son; we are going with the BMW of Cincinnati North group as I wasn’t able to go with my dealer.

I didn’t realize the two Cincinnati dealers had different days. I’m lined up with The BMW Store.

stickguy

if I actually needed a car now, a cheap Taco lease would be enticing.

kyfdx

Also, no way I’m selling the GTI. 3.5 years of factory warranty left. I like it a lot.

If I get a Cayman, that will be a separate decision, once the Fit is gone.

stickguy

smart move!

corvette

kyfdx said:

Also, no way I’m selling the GTI. 3.5 years of factory warranty left. I like it a lot.

That's only about, what, seven clutch assembly replacements VW might be on the hook for?

roadburner

kyfdx said:

roadburner said:

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

Tomorrow, going to a Derby week, BMW corporate driving event, at Kentucky Speedway.

They had three different options, but by the time I read the email, just one was left.

0-60 experience (sort of a drag strip kind of thing)
Follow BMW pro driver on the actual track (I would have picked this)
Autocross course

Autocross was the only one left (which I've never done).

I expect to suck at it, but on the plus side? All vehicles are new BMW M2 competition coupes!

So, don't look for me on Edmunds, tomorrow afternoon.

I was invited to a BMW event a couple of years ago - I was able to participate in both the "follow the driver" and autocross events.

The autocross was pretty fun - low speeds but you get a real feel for the handling. I took the course in both a 60-series Gran Coupe and an X2. There was an M4 available, but all the flat-brimmed bros were fighting for time behind the wheel.

I’m headed there today with my son; we are going with the BMW of Cincinnati North group as I wasn’t able to go with my dealer.

I didn’t realize the two Cincinnati dealers had different days. I’m lined up with The BMW Store.

We didn’t find out until Tuesday and when we signed up there were five spots left for the afternoon session. We weren’t given an option as to the events. We are waiting to start now.

xwesx

kyfdx said:

xwesx said:

I had the Q7 up to 105+ or so one time while performing a passing maneuver. Traffic was traveling at about 75 in a SL80 zone, two lane, long straight stretch. I was originally planning to just pass a couple vehicles ahead, but there continued to be no oncoming traffic, and nobody else was passing, so I just continued. When I was three vehicles from the front (I had already passed a dozen or more), I could tell the road sloped away ahead of me, and I couldn't see beyond that, so I popped it up a bit to finish the pass more quickly.

It seemed there was plenty of acceleration left, as it jumped up to those speeds quite rapidly.

Plus, it's a TDI, so probably still getting about 35 mpg.

Not *quite* that good. I did get a tank at 31 mpg on that trip, and my worst was north of 29. That's pretty good for high-speed driving in a vehicle that weights 5,500# empty (we added another 1,500# of people and cargo).

xwesx

corvette said:

kyfdx said:

Also, no way I’m selling the GTI. 3.5 years of factory warranty left. I like it a lot.

That's only about, what, seven clutch assembly replacements VW might be on the hook for?

That's a low blow! Hahahahahaha!

xwesx

The BMW event sounds like a lot of fun. Enjoy it, guys!

kyfdx

roadburner said:

kyfdx said:

roadburner said:

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

Tomorrow, going to a Derby week, BMW corporate driving event, at Kentucky Speedway.

They had three different options, but by the time I read the email, just one was left.

0-60 experience (sort of a drag strip kind of thing)
Follow BMW pro driver on the actual track (I would have picked this)
Autocross course

Autocross was the only one left (which I've never done).

I expect to suck at it, but on the plus side? All vehicles are new BMW M2 competition coupes!

So, don't look for me on Edmunds, tomorrow afternoon.

I was invited to a BMW event a couple of years ago - I was able to participate in both the "follow the driver" and autocross events.

The autocross was pretty fun - low speeds but you get a real feel for the handling. I took the course in both a 60-series Gran Coupe and an X2. There was an M4 available, but all the flat-brimmed bros were fighting for time behind the wheel.

I’m headed there today with my son; we are going with the BMW of Cincinnati North group as I wasn’t able to go with my dealer.

I didn’t realize the two Cincinnati dealers had different days. I’m lined up with The BMW Store.

We didn’t find out until Tuesday and when we signed up there were five spots left for the afternoon session. We weren’t given an option as to the events. We are waiting to start now.

Which one are you doing?

ab348

corvette said:

kyfdx said:

Also, no way I’m selling the GTI. 3.5 years of factory warranty left. I like it a lot.

That's only about, what, seven clutch assembly replacements VW might be on the hook for?

I think that in VW's way of thinking, no factory-installed clutch assembly can ever be defective and so they never pay for a single replacement.

kyfdx

ab348 said:

corvette said:

kyfdx said:

Also, no way I’m selling the GTI. 3.5 years of factory warranty left. I like it a lot.

That's only about, what, seven clutch assembly replacements VW might be on the hook for?

I think that in VW's way of thinking, no factory-installed clutch assembly can ever be defective and so they never pay for a single replacement.

I don't abuse my clutch, like the past owner..

xwesx

kyfdx said:

I don't abuse my clutch, like the past owner..

Them's fightin' words!

qbrozen

bike came today. didn't take much assembly, but it has yet to start. After digging into it for an hour or so, it seems the injector is not firing. I just ordered a new one from amazon for delivery tomorrow. $12. Hopefully that's it. Otherwise, I'll have to contact the manufacturer.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

bike came today. didn't take much assembly, but it has yet to start. After digging into it for an hour or so, it seems the injector is not firing. I just ordered a new one from amazon for delivery tomorrow. $12. Hopefully that's it. Otherwise, I'll have to contact the manufacturer.

Argh! What a disappointment. Hopefully that solves the issue. Delivery TOMORROW?! Man, that's nice! Hahaha.

Good luck! Does the son have his already - I think you mentioned that, but I don't recall...

Other than the no-start, what are your impressions so far?

sda

qbrozen said:

bike came today. didn't take much assembly, but it has yet to start. After digging into it for an hour or so, it seems the injector is not firing. I just ordered a new one from amazon for delivery tomorrow. $12. Hopefully that's it. Otherwise, I'll have to contact the manufacturer.

Does anything come easy?? I have the TL at the garage to have the Evap part replaced. They received the wrong part in a bag with the correct part#. This is a genuine Honda part..

28firefighter

Helped a friend lease an MDX Tech AWD today outside of Seattle. 9% dealer discount, $4450 lease cash, $2000 loyalty...made for a good deal. First month, registration, and fees at signing, $475/month including tax (36/10 lease).

pensfan83

28firefighter said:

Helped a friend lease an MDX Tech AWD today outside of Seattle. 9% dealer discount, $4450 lease cash, $2000 loyalty...made for a good deal. First month, registration, and fees at signing, $475/month including tax (36/10 lease).

That's really solid and good he locked it in before programs change.

28firefighter

That is exactly why I told him - he wanted an MDX and with the 2021 redesign coming and programs likely to change, now was a good time to capitalize on it.

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

Helped a friend lease an MDX Tech AWD today outside of Seattle. 9% dealer discount, $4450 lease cash, $2000 loyalty...made for a good deal. First month, registration, and fees at signing, $475/month including tax (36/10 lease).

What’s the MSRP on that?

qbrozen

xwesx said:

qbrozen said:

bike came today. didn't take much assembly, but it has yet to start. After digging into it for an hour or so, it seems the injector is not firing. I just ordered a new one from amazon for delivery tomorrow. $12. Hopefully that's it. Otherwise, I'll have to contact the manufacturer.

Argh! What a disappointment. Hopefully that solves the issue. Delivery TOMORROW?! Man, that's nice! Hahaha.

Good luck! Does the son have his already - I think you mentioned that, but I don't recall...

Other than the no-start, what are your impressions so far?

When I first unwrapped it, I was very pleasantly surprised. It is attractive in person. Wish it had more orange. Lol.

But feels very solid, nice seat. Seems to be of decent construction and materials. I’m excited to get her started.

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

28firefighter said:

Helped a friend lease an MDX Tech AWD today outside of Seattle. 9% dealer discount, $4450 lease cash, $2000 loyalty...made for a good deal. First month, registration, and fees at signing, $475/month including tax (36/10 lease).

What’s the MSRP on that?

$52,525

nyccarguy

28firefighter said:

Helped a friend lease an MDX Tech AWD today outside of Seattle. 9% dealer discount, $4450 lease cash, $2000 loyalty...made for a good deal. First month, registration, and fees at signing, $475/month including tax (36/10 lease).

Impressive. Good job!

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

Tacoma alert

TFS residuals actually went up 3% this month for the 2020 Off-Road and Sport trims.

Interesting. I wonder what inventory is like. Brought my Tacoma in for its 4th Service yesterday. It will be a year old on 9/17. I’ve got close to 22,000 miles on it. I decided to wait and walk around the lot. They had (1) 2020 4Runner TRD Sport Premium, (2) Tundras, (0) Tacomas, & a handful of Sequoias.

roadburner

kyfdx said:

Which one are you doing?

We did all three. As usual I was mediocre at the autocross, but the M2C is just way too much fun.


The drag race was interesting. You also had to stop at the end within a “stop box” to win. The cars were Competition versions of the X5 M, X6 M, M8, and M2. I won two drag races and my son won another.


Lapping the tri-oval was a lead-follow exercise. All the cars were M8C coupes, Gran Coupes, and convertibles.


We were lucky to see 115 mph; we had a real slow poke in our group. I did get a couple of laps behind the instructor but we left the timid folks behind and had to slow down so that they could catch up. My son didn’t have any better luck.


Still, it was a lot of fun.

Michaell

roadburner said:

kyfdx said:

Which one are you doing?

We did all three. As usual I was mediocre at the autocross, but the M2C is just way too much fun.


The drag race was interesting. You also had to stop at the end within a “stop box” to win. The cars were Competition versions of the X5 M, X6 M, M8, and M2. I won two drag races and my son won another.


Lapping the tri-oval was a lead-follow exercise. All the cars were M8C coupes, Gran Coupes, and convertibles.


We were lucky to see 115 mph; we had a real slow poke in our group. I did get a couple of laps behind the instructor but we left the timid folks behind and had to slow down so that they could catch up. My son didn’t have any better luck.


Still, it was a lot of fun.

I wish that the BMW event here was held at Pikes Peak Int'l Raceway; rather, they use the space that local law enforcement uses for training.

andres3

stickguy said:

found this one at a local dealer. Like the colors. Other than being an AT (and a 15 YO Audi) the price seems not too steep for the miles. FWD (less to break!) and in the details says DSG and Tiptronic in different places. I thought the FWD got the normal trans, but Andre would know for sure I assume.

I drove one when they first came out. My first experience with a DSG. Could tell the difference from a regular AT but it was still no manual trans.

https://www.subaruofcherryhill.com/used/Audi/2006-Audi-A3-cherry-hill-nj-dc49738a0a0e0ae743b91fb9e911019a.htm

All A3's got the DSG. I think Audi wasn't sure what to call the DSG transmissions, so for like a year they might have called them Triptronics, then S-Tronic. I still call them DSG's.

One of my favorite things is that when you brake with spirit it downshifts and rev matches that creates a nice winding/slowing down chorus out of the exhaust.

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

kyfdx said:

Tacoma alert

TFS residuals actually went up 3% this month for the 2020 Off-Road and Sport trims.

Interesting. I wonder what inventory is like. Brought my Tacoma in for its 4th Service yesterday. It will be a year old on 9/17. I’ve got close to 22,000 miles on it. I decided to wait and walk around the lot. They had (1) 2020 4Runner TRD Sport Premium, (2) Tundras, (0) Tacomas, & a handful of Sequoias.

We have six metro Toyota dealers. 5-10 units at each one.

If you really are on a tight budget, the SR double cab, 4WD V6 has the highest residual (81% for 36/12), and is around $34K MSRP. About 20% seem to be that configuration.

andres3

kyfdx said:

Speeding: About 12 years ago, I was clocked doing 147 mph.

Of course, it was in a Nationwide series stock car at KY Speedway.

You could have died at those reckless high speeds! What are you, suicidal?

Don't you know that the potential energy is squared with velocity?

corvette

nyccarguy said:

They had (1) 2020 4Runner TRD Sport Premium, (2) Tundras, (0) Tacomas, & a handful of Sequoias.

The 4Runners lease okay, but not nearly as well as the pickups. Not sure on the Sequoias - I think a lot of those are bought outright. The 4Runner may be the most outdated of all of them. I don't think you can get LED headlights on any trim, and they still use a five speed automatic, which is something that even the owners who really like them complain about (I'm not certain that it's just the number of gears, what I read sounds like it doesn't want to keep the engine in the power band).

corvette

kyfdx said:

We have six metro Toyota dealers. 5-10 units at each one.

It's similar here. When I got the Tundra, I didn't bother to call around asking whether any of them were familiar with the US Bank lease offerings. The place where I bought told me that they're the highest volume truck dealer in the region. So, they're getting a ton of volume incentives, which explains how they blow them out at great prices.

nyccarguy

A few interesting cars on Cars & Bids:

2002 330xi SP/MT: https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3LDJ2PM0/2002-bmw-330xi-sedan

2005 Acura RSX Type S: https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDO2yl0G/2005-acura-rsx-type-s

stickguy

That bmw is lovely. Would be even better if RWD!

Nice RSX. I always liked those. If I’d gotten that instead of my integra a few years ago would probably still have it. I expect that one will pull strong money.

nyccarguy

stickguy said:

That bmw is lovely. Would be even better if RWD!

Nice RSX. I always liked those. If I’d gotten that instead of my integra a few years ago would probably still have it. I expect that one will pull strong money.

The RSX Type S was my backup if I couldn't find a leftover Prelude Type SH or a Base Prelude with a manual transmission back in 2002.

stickguy

Hoovie’s Excursion is up now too.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rknb6klN/2001-ford-excursion-xlt

If you don’t mind miles, this is interesting.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rbZQq1jg/1997-bmw-m3-sedan

qbrozen

The v12 sticker makes the build.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3OA5vLjY/1986-pontiac-fiero?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ending

ab348

stickguy said:

The Kona always had the 1.6t engine option. Maybe is was 175hp? The slightly detained version from what my sport Elantra had, but still quick for that class

The article claims the higher-HP engine is an all-new design.

stickguy

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:

That bmw is lovely. Would be even better if RWD!

Nice RSX. I always liked those. If I’d gotten that instead of my integra a few years ago would probably still have it. I expect that one will pull strong money.

The RSX Type S was my backup if I couldn't find a leftover Prelude Type SH or a Base Prelude with a manual transmission back in 2002.

I probably wouldn't even look for a type S. Rather spend 1/2 the money or less on a base engine car. Fine for me at this point.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

The v12 sticker makes the build.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3OA5vLjY/1986-pontiac-fiero?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ending

what a pile. And bid up to $4,500 already?

this site seems to be the new place for YouTube celebrities to dump their content. Hoovie, these guys, and Samcrac has a Mustang gt350R running now too.

corvette

qbrozen said:

The v12 sticker makes the build.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3OA5vLjY/1986-pontiac-fiero?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ending

The careful wiring under the dash really does it for me. You can really tell they sweated the details on that car.

stickguy

ab348 said:

stickguy said:

The Kona always had the 1.6t engine option. Maybe is was 175hp? The slightly detained version from what my sport Elantra had, but still quick for that class

The article claims the higher-HP engine is an all-new design.

I saw that. though "all new" is often stretched quite a bit. But they must have done some updates.

I think the only difference between the old 175 HP 1.6t and the one I had in the sport (201 HP i think) was tuning, with same mechanicals, but don't hold me to that!

in any case, it was a nice drivetrain. Quick, but excellent MPG. and sounded good.

Michaell

Opinions sought!

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/62830/jeep/x/buying-online-vs-at-the-dealership-any-have-experience-with-this#latest

qbrozen

Michaell said:

Opinions sought!

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/62830/jeep/x/buying-online-vs-at-the-dealership-any-have-experience-with-this#latest

I just answered that question 2 or 3 weeks ago, no?

EDIT: ok, like 6 wks ago.

Michaell

qbrozen said:

Michaell said:

Opinions sought!

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/62830/jeep/x/buying-online-vs-at-the-dealership-any-have-experience-with-this#latest

I just answered that question 2 or 3 weeks ago, no?

EDIT: ok, like 6 wks ago.

It's possible