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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,839
    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    Time to start a YT channel.
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    qbrozen said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    breld said:

    Looking back on 2020 (and preparing our 2021 budget), it's really hit me how much I overindulged this past year. Lots of moves, but at the end of the day (or year, as it were :) ), my wife went from her Alltrack to her MINI - like for like for the most part. Me? I replaced the very reasonable V90 lease with a really nice Cayenne and the GTI (then 228i) as the fun car to a new Supra (albeit at a great discount). And between moving, the pandemic and kids getting their drivers licenses, the miles I'm driving has been greatly reduced. Pandemic is temporary (it is, right?), but I doubt we're going back to the office 5 days a week ever.

    So my current fun research obsession? What could I get to satisfy those car needs/desires at a significantly reduced rate? If you'd like, indulge me with your thoughts.

    Utility car - let's say around $35-40k budget:

    • 2018-2019 MDX - a sport hybrid model would be great, but so many more choices out there with the standard V6. At least Tech Package, but Advanced would be preferred.
    • 2019-2020 CX-9
    • 2017-2018 X5 35i or 40e
    • 2017-2018 GLE
    • Or maybe, push that budget just a bit...Mach E (considering $10k of tax incentives here in CO)
    For the fun car, let's stick around $30k'ish:
    • Another Miata RF - 2019 or newer for the increased power.
    • M240i
    I'm not sure I understand. Is the utility to replace the Cayenne? Or are you looking to replace the Supra with 2 vehicles? And is there any reason utility and fun can't come together?
    So, hypothetically (for now at least), two replacements - cheaper utility vehicle instead of the Cayenne and cheaper fun car in place of the Supra.

    And yes, I have thought about the utility and fun coming together...an X3 m40i comes to mind. When I test drove that, I remarked how much it felt like the Supra (to a certain extent of course). What other vehicles would you recommend as an “all-in-one?”

    Geez, now you got me thinking...I could open up a garage space for the Leaf.
    I worked on the south side of Indianapolis today so I scooted up north and drove a Volvo XC60 T6 momentum. It was not my cup of tea.

    I drove over to BMW and drove a X3 m40i and the power was nice but the suspension was pretty stiff when hitting potholes. I could learn to like it (I think) but I am getting older. I would have loved it in my 40s when I was putting lowering springs on my Audi A6.

    I drove a m340xdrive and it rode somewhat better than the x3 m40 but I like the visibility of a SUV (I think...).

    There is always the x3 30i with m sport suspension but you give up the inline 6 for the four cylinder that sounds like a sewing machine. I think that is out just based on that alone.

    Channeling my inner Breld

    There is a used 2020 x3 M40i for sale near me but is dark graphite metallic and has the sensatec (vinyl) interior. 6700 miles and the price is right, Bob Barker...

    Still channeling my inner Breld

    I probably should have driven an Audi SQ5...

    Then to sell my Jeep to Vroom...

    Help!!

    If you didn’t like the x3 m40i, why would the price and options on the used 2020 matter?

    Yes, drive an SQ5. I’d also suggest a Stelvio.
    I think I could get used to the x3m40
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347
    qbrozen said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    breld said:

    Looking back on 2020 (and preparing our 2021 budget), it's really hit me how much I overindulged this past year. Lots of moves, but at the end of the day (or year, as it were :) ), my wife went from her Alltrack to her MINI - like for like for the most part. Me? I replaced the very reasonable V90 lease with a really nice Cayenne and the GTI (then 228i) as the fun car to a new Supra (albeit at a great discount). And between moving, the pandemic and kids getting their drivers licenses, the miles I'm driving has been greatly reduced. Pandemic is temporary (it is, right?), but I doubt we're going back to the office 5 days a week ever.

    So my current fun research obsession? What could I get to satisfy those car needs/desires at a significantly reduced rate? If you'd like, indulge me with your thoughts.

    Utility car - let's say around $35-40k budget:

    • 2018-2019 MDX - a sport hybrid model would be great, but so many more choices out there with the standard V6. At least Tech Package, but Advanced would be preferred.
    • 2019-2020 CX-9
    • 2017-2018 X5 35i or 40e
    • 2017-2018 GLE
    • Or maybe, push that budget just a bit...Mach E (considering $10k of tax incentives here in CO)
    For the fun car, let's stick around $30k'ish:
    • Another Miata RF - 2019 or newer for the increased power.
    • M240i
    I'm not sure I understand. Is the utility to replace the Cayenne? Or are you looking to replace the Supra with 2 vehicles? And is there any reason utility and fun can't come together?
    So, hypothetically (for now at least), two replacements - cheaper utility vehicle instead of the Cayenne and cheaper fun car in place of the Supra.

    And yes, I have thought about the utility and fun coming together...an X3 m40i comes to mind. When I test drove that, I remarked how much it felt like the Supra (to a certain extent of course). What other vehicles would you recommend as an “all-in-one?”

    Geez, now you got me thinking...I could open up a garage space for the Leaf.
    I worked on the south side of Indianapolis today so I scooted up north and drove a Volvo XC60 T6 momentum. It was not my cup of tea.

    I drove over to BMW and drove a X3 m40i and the power was nice but the suspension was pretty stiff when hitting potholes. I could learn to like it (I think) but I am getting older. I would have loved it in my 40s when I was putting lowering springs on my Audi A6.

    I drove a m340xdrive and it rode somewhat better than the x3 m40 but I like the visibility of a SUV (I think...).

    There is always the x3 30i with m sport suspension but you give up the inline 6 for the four cylinder that sounds like a sewing machine. I think that is out just based on that alone.

    Channeling my inner Breld

    There is a used 2020 x3 M40i for sale near me but is dark graphite metallic and has the sensatec (vinyl) interior. 6700 miles and the price is right, Bob Barker...

    Still channeling my inner Breld

    I probably should have driven an Audi SQ5...

    Then to sell my Jeep to Vroom...

    Help!!

    If you didn’t like the x3 m40i, why would the price and options on the used 2020 matter?

    Yes, drive an SQ5. I’d also suggest a Stelvio.
    My Alfa dealer has a couple of beautiful CPO Stelvio Ti Sports. A standout is a 2018 in Trofeo White(a $2,200 option) and red leather as well as H-K. Only $36,000.
    If I was a bit braver I would nab it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    edited December 2020

    qbrozen said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    breld said:

    Looking back on 2020 (and preparing our 2021 budget), it's really hit me how much I overindulged this past year. Lots of moves, but at the end of the day (or year, as it were :) ), my wife went from her Alltrack to her MINI - like for like for the most part. Me? I replaced the very reasonable V90 lease with a really nice Cayenne and the GTI (then 228i) as the fun car to a new Supra (albeit at a great discount). And between moving, the pandemic and kids getting their drivers licenses, the miles I'm driving has been greatly reduced. Pandemic is temporary (it is, right?), but I doubt we're going back to the office 5 days a week ever.

    So my current fun research obsession? What could I get to satisfy those car needs/desires at a significantly reduced rate? If you'd like, indulge me with your thoughts.

    Utility car - let's say around $35-40k budget:

    • 2018-2019 MDX - a sport hybrid model would be great, but so many more choices out there with the standard V6. At least Tech Package, but Advanced would be preferred.
    • 2019-2020 CX-9
    • 2017-2018 X5 35i or 40e
    • 2017-2018 GLE
    • Or maybe, push that budget just a bit...Mach E (considering $10k of tax incentives here in CO)
    For the fun car, let's stick around $30k'ish:
    • Another Miata RF - 2019 or newer for the increased power.
    • M240i
    I'm not sure I understand. Is the utility to replace the Cayenne? Or are you looking to replace the Supra with 2 vehicles? And is there any reason utility and fun can't come together?
    So, hypothetically (for now at least), two replacements - cheaper utility vehicle instead of the Cayenne and cheaper fun car in place of the Supra.

    And yes, I have thought about the utility and fun coming together...an X3 m40i comes to mind. When I test drove that, I remarked how much it felt like the Supra (to a certain extent of course). What other vehicles would you recommend as an “all-in-one?”

    Geez, now you got me thinking...I could open up a garage space for the Leaf.
    I worked on the south side of Indianapolis today so I scooted up north and drove a Volvo XC60 T6 momentum. It was not my cup of tea.

    I drove over to BMW and drove a X3 m40i and the power was nice but the suspension was pretty stiff when hitting potholes. I could learn to like it (I think) but I am getting older. I would have loved it in my 40s when I was putting lowering springs on my Audi A6.

    I drove a m340xdrive and it rode somewhat better than the x3 m40 but I like the visibility of a SUV (I think...).

    There is always the x3 30i with m sport suspension but you give up the inline 6 for the four cylinder that sounds like a sewing machine. I think that is out just based on that alone.

    Channeling my inner Breld

    There is a used 2020 x3 M40i for sale near me but is dark graphite metallic and has the sensatec (vinyl) interior. 6700 miles and the price is right, Bob Barker...

    Still channeling my inner Breld

    I probably should have driven an Audi SQ5...

    Then to sell my Jeep to Vroom...

    Help!!

    If you didn’t like the x3 m40i, why would the price and options on the used 2020 matter?

    Yes, drive an SQ5. I’d also suggest a Stelvio.
    My Alfa dealer has a couple of beautiful CPO Stelvio Ti Sports. A standout is a 2018 in Trofeo White(a $2,200 option) and red leather as well as H-K. Only $36,000.
    If I was a bit braver I would nab it.
    What’s the warranty like on that?

    $36k is ridiculous. Most expensive auction car was $28.8k. Most are $26-$27 with 18-24k miles.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347
    qbrozen said:

    qbrozen said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    breld said:

    qbrozen said:

    breld said:

    Looking back on 2020 (and preparing our 2021 budget), it's really hit me how much I overindulged this past year. Lots of moves, but at the end of the day (or year, as it were :) ), my wife went from her Alltrack to her MINI - like for like for the most part. Me? I replaced the very reasonable V90 lease with a really nice Cayenne and the GTI (then 228i) as the fun car to a new Supra (albeit at a great discount). And between moving, the pandemic and kids getting their drivers licenses, the miles I'm driving has been greatly reduced. Pandemic is temporary (it is, right?), but I doubt we're going back to the office 5 days a week ever.

    So my current fun research obsession? What could I get to satisfy those car needs/desires at a significantly reduced rate? If you'd like, indulge me with your thoughts.

    Utility car - let's say around $35-40k budget:

    • 2018-2019 MDX - a sport hybrid model would be great, but so many more choices out there with the standard V6. At least Tech Package, but Advanced would be preferred.
    • 2019-2020 CX-9
    • 2017-2018 X5 35i or 40e
    • 2017-2018 GLE
    • Or maybe, push that budget just a bit...Mach E (considering $10k of tax incentives here in CO)
    For the fun car, let's stick around $30k'ish:
    • Another Miata RF - 2019 or newer for the increased power.
    • M240i
    I'm not sure I understand. Is the utility to replace the Cayenne? Or are you looking to replace the Supra with 2 vehicles? And is there any reason utility and fun can't come together?
    So, hypothetically (for now at least), two replacements - cheaper utility vehicle instead of the Cayenne and cheaper fun car in place of the Supra.

    And yes, I have thought about the utility and fun coming together...an X3 m40i comes to mind. When I test drove that, I remarked how much it felt like the Supra (to a certain extent of course). What other vehicles would you recommend as an “all-in-one?”

    Geez, now you got me thinking...I could open up a garage space for the Leaf.
    I worked on the south side of Indianapolis today so I scooted up north and drove a Volvo XC60 T6 momentum. It was not my cup of tea.

    I drove over to BMW and drove a X3 m40i and the power was nice but the suspension was pretty stiff when hitting potholes. I could learn to like it (I think) but I am getting older. I would have loved it in my 40s when I was putting lowering springs on my Audi A6.

    I drove a m340xdrive and it rode somewhat better than the x3 m40 but I like the visibility of a SUV (I think...).

    There is always the x3 30i with m sport suspension but you give up the inline 6 for the four cylinder that sounds like a sewing machine. I think that is out just based on that alone.

    Channeling my inner Breld

    There is a used 2020 x3 M40i for sale near me but is dark graphite metallic and has the sensatec (vinyl) interior. 6700 miles and the price is right, Bob Barker...

    Still channeling my inner Breld

    I probably should have driven an Audi SQ5...

    Then to sell my Jeep to Vroom...

    Help!!

    If you didn’t like the x3 m40i, why would the price and options on the used 2020 matter?

    Yes, drive an SQ5. I’d also suggest a Stelvio.
    My Alfa dealer has a couple of beautiful CPO Stelvio Ti Sports. A standout is a 2018 in Trofeo White(a $2,200 option) and red leather as well as H-K. Only $36,000.
    If I was a bit braver I would nab it.
    What’s the warranty like on that?

    $36k is ridiculous. Most expensive auction car was $28.8k. Most are $26-$27 with 18-24k miles.
    I think the CPO warranty is 5 years/100k miles. I could probably get it for $31k hor less; I’m thinking the CPO warranty adds about $2k to the bottom. This one has most every package and option- including the Helen Keller “driving aids,” unfortunately.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    @roadburner: including the Helen Keller “driving aids,” unfortunately. Great description !

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,224
    kyfdx said:

    Downside to a flat-4 vs inline-4

    2 oxygen sensors per side. 4 total.

    Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.

    Sensors are not cheap.

    You should start a YouTube channel. Call it Watch KRgo.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,644

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    The son's new high mileage Forester....

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,839
    Ahhhh
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347
    edited December 2020
    Munich forgive me, but I really like this Challenger R/T Scat Pack.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    I had a Challenger Scat Pack as a rental in Chicago 2 years ago. No shaker hood, maybe not available then? Fun for a rental car!


  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,839
    You have got to figure that poor house still gets tons of attention.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    Hertz was out of those, also no Dodge cargo vans, Omnis, or late 80s LeSabres.
    tjc78 said:

    Wouldn’t a woody Buick Electra wagon been a better choice for that venue?

    Great pic.

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,924

    Munich forgive me, but I really like this Challenger R/T Scat Pack.

    I think you could be allowed a pass given your history and current fleet.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,304
    edited December 2020
    Great new episode of The Grand Tour is now up on Amazon Prime.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,109

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,644

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740

    Munich forgive me, but I really like this Challenger R/T Scat Pack.

    that color with those wheels is pretty sharp.

    Definitely screaming for some more graphics, though, IMHO. Was thinking black surround for the shaker and the tail wrapover like the white rental pictured.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,403
    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    I can sell my 18 wrangler and get the 2020 x3 m40i for $6500 plus tax on the full price of the used x3. Ugh
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    corvette said:

    Great new episode of The Grand Tour is now up on Amazon Prime.

    I watched it yesterday. I thought it fell totally flat.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,304
    ab348 said:

    corvette said:

    Great new episode of The Grand Tour is now up on Amazon Prime.

    I watched it yesterday. I thought it fell totally flat.
    It's pretty good for quarantine entertainment. IMO, a lot of TV and movie studios have delayed filming a lot of things, and the pipeline is drying up. Tiger King may have marked the end of the early 2000s Golden Era of television.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,403
    mjfloyd1 said:

    I can sell my 18 wrangler and get the 2020 x3 m40i for $6500 plus tax on the full price of the used x3. Ugh

    that seems like a good deal to me.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    Could do the 70's full matte black hood. I'd skip the roof treatment.
    Have to scroll down a bit to see.
    https://carbuzz.com/news/2020-dodge-challenger-has-the-coolest-new-color-option
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,839
    it is a good deal IF you like the X3.
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,788
    what's like gotta to do, gotta to do with it?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,109
    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Exactly...

    Anyway, oxygen sensor on Tuesday was $425.
    A lot of diagnostics and new plugs today was $300.
    Bosch Icon wiper blades $57

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Like take the top of the engine apart? :D

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    qbrozen said:

    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Like take the top of the engine apart? :D
    That’s dialed in for you or so it seems.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    sda said:

    qbrozen said:

    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Like take the top of the engine apart? :D
    That’s dialed in for you or so it seems.
    Still awaiting a stupid little plastic coolant connector.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347

    Could do the 70's full matte black hood. I'd skip the roof treatment.
    Have to scroll down a bit to see.
    https://carbuzz.com/news/2020-dodge-challenger-has-the-coolest-new-color-option

    There are several kits available; some from Mopar, some from the aftermarket.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,304
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Exactly...

    Anyway, oxygen sensor on Tuesday was $425.
    A lot of diagnostics and new plugs today was $300.
    Bosch Icon wiper blades $57
    $425 for only one out of four oxygen sensors? That sounds steep, as do the wiper blades, I think they're usually cheaper on Amazon.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347
    edited December 2020
    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    The Clubman had every “100k mile N12 issue” resolved before I bought it - except for the VANOS solenoid, which failed within the first month of my ownership. Aside from that no major issues save a coolant sensor and an oil pan gasket. The issues that were throwing a couple of codes and an A/C refrigerant leak were due to inept service from a couple of shops the PO used.
    It should hit 150k at the end of my term in 2024. It should not require much more than oil, coolant, and brake fluid changes over that time period.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,224
    edited December 2020

    Munich forgive me, but I really like this Challenger R/T Scat Pack.

    Those are fun and have a great exhaust note but they are huge cars. Takes something out of it for me.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,109
    corvette said:

    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Exactly...

    Anyway, oxygen sensor on Tuesday was $425.
    A lot of diagnostics and new plugs today was $300.
    Bosch Icon wiper blades $57
    $425 for only one out of four oxygen sensors? That sounds steep, as do the wiper blades, I think they're usually cheaper on Amazon.
    The oxygen sensor is $240 part.
    2 hours diagnostic/labor at $80/hr.
    +tax.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,224
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    sda said:

    kyfdx said:

    Which car? Isn’t that covered by warranty?

    2012 Forester with 126K miles
    It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
    I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
    Exactly...

    Anyway, oxygen sensor on Tuesday was $425.
    A lot of diagnostics and new plugs today was $300.
    Bosch Icon wiper blades $57
    Those are typical wear items you could expect on a car like that. What would irritate me is if the drivetrain developed issues. A smokey motor or a bucking tranny would be much worse.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,403
    I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740

    Munich forgive me, but I really like this Challenger R/T Scat Pack.

    Those are fun and have a great exhaust note but they are huge cars. Takes something out of it for me.
    But stupid fun nonetheless.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    stickguy said:

    I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html

    Those with a Turbo are rare. Too bad the back seat room is so limited. Nice car overall.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,644
    stickguy said:

    I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html

    I like that.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,304
    sda said:

    stickguy said:

    I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html

    Those with a Turbo are rare. Too bad the back seat room is so limited. Nice car overall.
    Yes, I think the Regal might have had the turbo standard at some point before it was canned.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,696

    You guys have the wrong idea about shoveling snow.
    It's great exercise, makes you feel more alive(although usually sore the next day) and is a good opportunity to connect with your neighbors or help them out.

    That's wisdom (and experience) talking there! Power the pushers! ;)
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,696
    kyfdx said:

    Downside to a flat-4 vs inline-4

    2 oxygen sensors per side. 4 total.

    Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.

    Sensors are not cheap.

    How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).

    That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,696
    corvette said:


    $425 for only one out of four oxygen sensors? That sounds steep, as do the wiper blades, I think they're usually cheaper on Amazon.

    Unless they seriously changed things, the Forester only has two oxygen sensors. The exhaust routing merges fairly soon after the gas exists the engine - the first sensor is located in front of the engine just aft of the merger, and the second one is behind the engine just aft of the catalytic converter.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    stickguy said:

    I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html

    Colors are good, engine power is good. The Verano Turbo regularly beat the Acura ILX in comparison tests which means that it must be a pretty good car given the typical biases of today's auto journos. I would be concerned about a miled-up one with a turbo like that though. Rear seat room is the same or slightly better than a Cruze or Focus, probably not much different from any other compact. Even though I'm a GM guy I never could bring myself to like the styling of the Verano. The front end seemed squeezed somehow and I didn't care for the rear treatment with the chrome eyebrows over the taillights.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,224
    sda said:

    stickguy said:

    I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.

    https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html

    Those with a Turbo are rare. Too bad the back seat room is so limited. Nice car overall.
    How about a Regal? I always like the style of those. Might make a better cheap knock around car.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/831201759/overview/?aff=atempest&cmp=atempest&utm_source=AutoTempest&utm_medium=TRP&utm_campaign=atempest

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