Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, (220,000k) what have you got to lose?
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It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
Exactly...
Anyway, oxygen sensor on Tuesday was $425. A lot of diagnostics and new plugs today was $300. Bosch Icon wiper blades $57
Those are typical wear items you could expect on a car like that. What would irritate me is if the drivetrain developed issues. A smokey motor or a bucking tranny would be much worse.
Stick shift, so he has that going for him.
The thing is, we could have spent twice this much on a newer car with 60% of the miles, and still had these exact issues. Buying used cars is a crapshoot. And, this is typical stuff.
Plus, he had a budget, and this was the sweet spot.
$425 for only one out of four oxygen sensors? That sounds steep, as do the wiper blades, I think they're usually cheaper on Amazon.
Unless they seriously changed things, the Forester only has two oxygen sensors. The exhaust routing merges fairly soon after the gas exists the engine - the first sensor is located in front of the engine just aft of the merger, and the second one is behind the engine just aft of the catalytic converter.
I'm going with my mechanic, who just told me that, and owns two other Subarus. (and, just replaced one of the sensors)
Guess we'll find out, if we have other O2 sensor issues
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
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It's always a bummer when the car you just bought starts having trouble and shows its behind. Hopefully this will be the only issue it has for a long time.
I always assume that when you buy a cheaper, well used old car, to expect some immediate maintenance and repairs. Just hopefully nothing too major, and then it will be relatively sorted out.
Exactly...
Anyway, oxygen sensor on Tuesday was $425. A lot of diagnostics and new plugs today was $300. Bosch Icon wiper blades $57
Those are typical wear items you could expect on a car like that. What would irritate me is if the drivetrain developed issues. A smokey motor or a bucking tranny would be much worse.
Stick shift, so he has that going for him.
The thing is, we could have spent twice this much on a newer car with 60% of the miles, and still had these exact issues. Buying used cars is a crapshoot. And, this is typical stuff.
Plus, he had a budget, and this was the sweet spot.
That’s why I keep a new car in reserve and then buy hoopties for fun. If the car that meets my fun budget blows up I can leave it on the side of the road. Tough to do if it’s your only car.
I’ve been there too.
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Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
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corvette said: sda said: stickguy said:I am oddly liking this one. Not a bad little car for the money, to serve as a spare. Well equipped, zippy engine, comfy. And I like the color combo.
Those with a Turbo are rare. Too bad the back seat room is so limited. Nice car overall. Yes, I think the Regal might have had the turbo standard at some point before it was canned.
The wife had that 2.0 turbo in a leased 2016 Malibu and it was smooth and quick. The Verano is about 300 lbs lighter so should scoot but I wouldn't trust any of these turbo motors regardless of make when approaching 100k miles
Those with a Turbo are rare. Too bad the back seat room is so limited. Nice car overall.
Yes, I think the Regal might have had the turbo standard at some point before it was canned.
The wife had that 2.0 turbo in a leased 2016 Malibu and it was smooth and quick. The Verano is about 300 lbs lighter so should scoot but I wouldn't trust any of these turbo motors regardless of make when approaching 100k miles
I’d want to see documented scrupulous oil changes on any car but particularly a turbo.
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Regal is too big for my taste. One thing I don't need is rear seat room. I could be fine with a 2 seater, but still more convenient to have rear seats too.
Just watched this review on the Mach-E. I actually like it quite a bit. Pricey though. And no, I still don't care about the Mustang name and styling cues. It looks great IMO. And the GT will outrun any factory real Mustang with a 3 second 0-60!
what they really need to do, is drop the GT's V8 motor in one of these to replace the EV drive. That would be a really good car.
My stepbrother had a few Veranos (cheap leases). He never said anything bad about them. I looked at them before I got the Elantra. The Hyundai leased better at the time.
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
I ran Cataclean according to the directions in the X3. It kept it from throwing the Catalyst Efficiency fault for around 6 months.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
You know what really works? Sand. Throw a pound of that in your tank. The grit scrubs everything clean.
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Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
I ran Cataclean according to the directions in the X3. It kept it from throwing the Catalyst Efficiency fault for around 6 months.
Where do you find that? The LC isn’t throwing a code but I have picked up an intermittent smell.
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I'm still trying to understand why you need another car just a few months after you dumped the TLX because it never got driven.
I don't. Just amusing myself looking, and planning ahead. My target estimate is 4/1 at this point. Maybe later if the wife's company still does not have them back in at all to the office.
if I found the right used car deal though I would still buy it.
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
You know what really works? Sand. Throw a pound of that in your tank. The grit scrubs everything clean.
And then sell if fast before all the other lights come on.😂😂😂
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
I ran Cataclean according to the directions in the X3. It kept it from throwing the Catalyst Efficiency fault for around 6 months.
Where do you find that? The LC isn’t throwing a code but I have picked up an intermittent smell.
Found a used 2020 BMW X3 m40i in glacier silver and 19 inch wheels with all season tires. Retired service loaner with 7200 miles. Still has included prepaid maintenance they say. They are matching the insane Vroom offer for my Wrangler so I get the tax advantage too.
Found a used 2020 BMW X3 m40i in glacier silver and 19 inch wheels with all season tires. Retired service loaner with 7200 miles. Still has included prepaid maintenance they say. They are matching the insane Vroom offer for my Wrangler so I get the tax advantage too.
Have to drive 3.5 hours but I’m worth it...😂
Sounds great! When we got our service loaner (2017 model), it automatically came with an extra year of CPO warranty plus 25K more miles (5yr/75K total). I wonder if they still do that?
It is at Bluegrass BMW (Watermark BMW) and they have a Watermark lifetime drivetrain warranty so probably not worth spending $2200 for CPO. Apparently you call a 1 -800 number before service and just keep the paperwork.
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
You know what really works? Sand. Throw a pound of that in your tank. The grit scrubs everything clean.
This looks like it was maybe a VW Press car based on the Carfax. MSRP was $31-$32.
I do like this one. Seems reasonable for a CPO with 5.5 years and 62K miles on the warranty. Even with the DSG (stick is better, but that is also a good option).
Looks like that dealer has been sitting on it for a while though. Maybe that explains the price slash.
This looks like it was maybe a VW Press car based on the Carfax. MSRP was $31-$32.
I do like this one. Seems reasonable for a CPO with 5.5 years and 62K miles on the warranty. Even with the DSG (stick is better, but that is also a good option).
Looks like that dealer has been sitting on it for a while though. Maybe that explains the price slash.
I’ve read some mixed things about the stereo (Beats vs Fender in the GTI) and about the GLI being a bit of a rattle box.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
When I test drove the GLI a couple years ago I know I turned the radio on briefly and it seemed fine, but I normally don't really exercise that on a test drive, unless I intend to buy it at the end of the drive. I am not that picky, as long as it will play decently at enough volume to hear on the highway with the windows down and roof open. Only car I had in a long time that failed was my Elantra since it had the base unit, not the upgraded one. That thing just sucked. If I had kept that car long term it would have gone to the stereo shop for an amp and speaker upgrade.
Rattles, that I would have no clue about, but my daughter's 2019 Jetta does not seem to have any.
It is at Bluegrass BMW (Watermark BMW) and they have a Watermark lifetime drivetrain warranty so probably not worth spending $2200 for CPO. Apparently you call a 1 -800 number before service and just keep the paperwork.
Picking it up 12/22
Congrats! Sounds like a great trade in value on the Wrangler!
Had one replaced on Tuesday. Check engine light back on Thursday. Back in shop, today.
Sensors are not cheap.
How many miles on the car again? In my experience, the catalytic converters do tend to need replacing around 160-170,000 miles. I generally replace oxygen sensors around 120,000 miles as preventative maintenance on them, but the dreaded P0420 code is bound to start returning that that more advanced mileage. At that point, there's not much left to do but replace the cats (expensive!).
That said, I have never replaced a Subaru cat, and my highest miled example was my first, at 220,000 miles. Even at those miles, the code was intermittent. However, it was frequent enough that the CEL would not turn off unless I scanned and cleared the codes between events (once every few days).
How about the lacquer thinner treatment as a last resort? Or is that just a YouTube myth?
At that milage, what have you got to lose?
Huh? What’s involved? I hope not while the car is running because, in that case, what you can lose is a car when it ignites.
EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
Oh, there’s quite an internet debate on the benefits. Some swear by it, some claim it’s hooey. The formula I’ve seen is 5 gallons of gas followed by one gallon of thinner, then drive 100 miles. When it doesn’t work the advocates claim that it wasn’t done right.
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
I ran Cataclean according to the directions in the X3. It kept it from throwing the Catalyst Efficiency fault for around 6 months.
Where do you find that? The LC isn’t throwing a code but I have picked up an intermittent smell.
I looked up Cataclean and found this on the active ingredients:
“ The main constituents of the Cataclean formulation are; Acetone, isopropanol, xylene and long-chain hydrocarbons, namely paraffin and has two functions; 1. Produce oxygen to help with oxidation of layer of carbon deposits on the catalytic surface.”
Aren’t some of those similar to lacquer thinner?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
where is the press car idea coming from? Carfax says it was a personal use car, with a title issued at 10 miles. Would not indicate a manufacturer car of any sort.
Congrats @mjfloyd1 - I think you’ll be much happier with that color combo than the graphite.
@michaell accompanied me today to look at a few candidates for my SUV “downgrade.”
2020 CX-9 Signature - I can really appreciate what Mazda offers with their large SUV. Power was more than adequate from the turbo 4, though the sound naturally leaves something to be desired. Lots of nice features and 2nd row captain’s chairs are a nice touch for 2020. The cockpit feel may be sporty, but also contributes to a bit of a cramped space feel. Slightly used for $38k - great value.
2018 X5 40e - I like the idea of the plug-in hybrid, and I had enjoyed previous test drives of them, but for whatever reason this drive left a lot to be desired. Just didn’t feel very “athletic” and the braking was difficult to modulate. $39k, CPO with 37k miles. @michaell and I agreed the PHEV was probably a great new car to lease, but may not be the best choice to buy on the other end.
2018 X3 m40i - I get why @mjfloyd1 pulled the trigger. This I loved. Keeping in mind I’m a pretty conservative driver and don’t take full advantage of my Supra’s capabilities, I felt like the X3 was like my Supra on stilts. Other than leather, it’s very well equipped...Premium pkg, Driver Assist and Plus pkg, Parking Assist Pkg, Harmon Kardon, Wireless charging, CarPlay and best of all...Adaptive M Suspension. Not CPO but only 2.5 years old and 18k miles...so plenty of warranty left for me.
The used sales manager is a Porsche enthusiast so would be happy to take my Cayenne in and offered what I thought was a fairly generous trade.
Love the Cayenne...nothing I dislike about it. But as long as I’m okay with the smaller size, I also really like the X3 with $16k back in my pocket.
I may need to hold out for a 2019 or 2020 model. Wouldn’t be the worst thing to skip the first year of that model, and I noticed the m40i got a much nicer steering wheel in 2019. And while I’m at it, why not get the increased power for 2020?
I really like the white. I’d prefer it over the glacier that I bought but it is what it is. I just don’t like dark colors and the upkeep. Yes, I’m lazy.
I looked at several BMWs and the pleather is nice. You can only tell by the lack of contrast stitching and the lack of rectangular stitched areas in the center of the seats.
The 2020 got a 30 ish boost in hp.
Mine does not have HK stereo but I’d rather listen to the twin turbo inline six
I can add wireless charging for $60 and install it myself but I honestly do not see the point. I’d use a lightning cable for CarPlay anyway
I really like that one. I would love it with the brown or tan interior! I understand the 1st MY issue, but would not be worried about a power bump since that already has some much HP that I probably would never use. I drove a x30 and found that plenty fast enough so any 40 should feel like a hot rod.
This looks like it was maybe a VW Press car based on the Carfax. MSRP was $31-$32.
Price is fair.
I’d be more interested if (1) it wasn’t red, and (2) it wasn’t a press car. I’ve seen the YouTube reviews and those cars did not live an easy life.
I'm not convinced that being a press car makes it a no-go. It sounds a lot like people who dislike the idea of buying a former rental. Yes, they may have been driven hard. But, now that cars have rev limiters and other controls to prevent people from really damaging them, it's unlikely they've sustained any permanent damage, other than brakes and tires (which are easily checked).
The M40i is really a nice vehicle. That said, from my standpoint it doesn't do anything better than my M235i and if I need to get around in really severe wintry weather I have the Wrangler and X1.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
after reading some stuff in the car magazines about how they treat some of them, I would pass on those test cars. No issue really if it is one that gets loaned out to the normal Youtube review folks like Alex on autos, or Sarah n tuned.
I may need to hold out for a 2019 or 2020 model. Wouldn’t be the worst thing to skip the first year of that model, and I noticed the m40i got a much nicer steering wheel in 2019. And while I’m at it, why not get the increased power for 2020?
Because that $16k pile of cash would shrink considerably, no?
I love the Raleigh area, or the Triad. My daughter went to college down there (midway between Greensboro and Raleigh). Great place to be.
Nashville has gotten overgrown and pricy. Clarksville is an interesting town. Something like that. Or Murfreesboro. Even Knoxville.
I did go to Greeneville a few years ago. Loved it. My wife might be OK there. She would die in the lowlands though in the summer!
Where did she go, Elon? I do find the Triangle pretty appealing, but not as fond of the Triad. I spent 11 years in Wilmington, and given the right opportunity there or in the Triangle, I'd go back to NC in a second.
I may need to hold out for a 2019 or 2020 model. Wouldn’t be the worst thing to skip the first year of that model, and I noticed the m40i got a much nicer steering wheel in 2019. And while I’m at it, why not get the increased power for 2020?
So it’s a SAV. Is that a new class of vehicle?
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At that milage, (220,000k) what have you got to lose?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
The thing is, we could have spent twice this much on a newer car with 60% of the miles, and still had these exact issues. Buying used cars is a crapshoot. And, this is typical stuff.
Plus, he had a budget, and this was the sweet spot.
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(and, just replaced one of the sensors)
Guess we'll find out, if we have other O2 sensor issues
The car has 126K miles
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EDIT: i googled. Wow. Please don’t put that in your gas tank. Good god.
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I’ve been there too.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I thought it was kind of crazy myself but if I had a car that was worth less than new cats I might give it a try.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
https://www.royaleasing.com/details-2013-buick-verano-4dr_sedan_premium_group-used-1g4pt5sv8d4140500.html
Those with a Turbo are rare. Too bad the back seat room is so limited. Nice car overall.
Yes, I think the Regal might have had the turbo standard at some point before it was canned.
The wife had that 2.0 turbo in a leased 2016 Malibu and it was smooth and quick. The Verano is about 300 lbs lighter so should scoot but I wouldn't trust any of these turbo motors regardless of make when approaching 100k miles
I’d want to see documented scrupulous oil changes on any car but particularly a turbo.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Just watched this review on the Mach-E. I actually like it quite a bit. Pricey though. And no, I still don't care about the Mustang name and styling cues. It looks great IMO. And the GT will outrun any factory real Mustang with a 3 second 0-60!
what they really need to do, is drop the GT's V8 motor in one of these to replace the EV drive. That would be a really good car.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
if I found the right used car deal though I would still buy it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
https://www.campbellvw.com/inventory/used-2019-volkswagen-jetta-2-0t-autobahn-front-wheel-drive-4d-sedan-3vw6t7buxkm136370
This looks like it was maybe a VW Press car based on the Carfax. MSRP was $31-$32.
Channeling inner @breld works.
Found a used 2020 BMW X3 m40i in glacier silver and 19 inch wheels with all season tires. Retired service loaner with 7200 miles. Still has included prepaid maintenance they say. They are matching the insane Vroom offer for my Wrangler so I get the tax advantage too.
Have to drive 3.5 hours but I’m worth it...😂
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It is at Bluegrass BMW (Watermark BMW) and they have a Watermark lifetime drivetrain warranty so probably not worth spending $2200 for CPO. Apparently you call a 1 -800 number before service and just keep the paperwork.
Picking it up 12/22
Looks like that dealer has been sitting on it for a while though. Maybe that explains the price slash.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Rattles, that I would have no clue about, but my daughter's 2019 Jetta does not seem to have any.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
“ The main constituents of the Cataclean formulation are; Acetone, isopropanol, xylene and long-chain hydrocarbons, namely paraffin and has two functions; 1. Produce oxygen to help with oxidation of layer of carbon deposits on the catalytic surface.”
Aren’t some of those similar to lacquer thinner?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I do like it in red.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Great decision getting a quote on a 4x4 Wrangler when a huge snow storm was going to hit.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@michaell accompanied me today to look at a few candidates for my SUV “downgrade.”
2020 CX-9 Signature - I can really appreciate what Mazda offers with their large SUV. Power was more than adequate from the turbo 4, though the sound naturally leaves something to be desired. Lots of nice features and 2nd row captain’s chairs are a nice touch for 2020. The cockpit feel may be sporty, but also contributes to a bit of a cramped space feel. Slightly used for $38k - great value.
2018 X5 40e - I like the idea of the plug-in hybrid, and I had enjoyed previous test drives of them, but for whatever reason this drive left a lot to be desired. Just didn’t feel very “athletic” and the braking was difficult to modulate. $39k, CPO with 37k miles. @michaell and I agreed the PHEV was probably a great new car to lease, but may not be the best choice to buy on the other end.
2018 X3 m40i - I get why @mjfloyd1 pulled the trigger. This I loved. Keeping in mind I’m a pretty conservative driver and don’t take full advantage of my Supra’s capabilities, I felt like the X3 was like my Supra on stilts. Other than leather, it’s very well equipped...Premium pkg, Driver Assist and Plus pkg, Parking Assist Pkg, Harmon Kardon, Wireless charging, CarPlay and best of all...Adaptive M Suspension. Not CPO but only 2.5 years old and 18k miles...so plenty of warranty left for me.
The used sales manager is a Porsche enthusiast so would be happy to take my Cayenne in and offered what I thought was a fairly generous trade.
Love the Cayenne...nothing I dislike about it. But as long as I’m okay with the smaller size, I also really like the X3 with $16k back in my pocket.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://www.autonation.com/cars/5UXTS3C51J0Y97944?utm_source=3534&utm_medium=1004&utm_campaign=*000001327*used
I may need to hold out for a 2019 or 2020 model. Wouldn’t be the worst thing to skip the first year of that model, and I noticed the m40i got a much nicer steering wheel in 2019. And while I’m at it, why not get the increased power for 2020?
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
I looked at several BMWs and the pleather is nice. You can only tell by the lack of contrast stitching and the lack of rectangular stitched areas in the center of the seats.
The 2020 got a 30 ish boost in hp.
Mine does not have HK stereo but I’d rather listen to the twin turbo inline six
I can add wireless charging for $60 and install it myself but I honestly do not see the point. I’d use a lightning cable for CarPlay anyway
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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