Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

Looks like an easy repaint job at least. Not cracked. Can’t really tell if it even needs and filler.

explorerx4

If are interested in Rivian and like party tricks, here's a good one.
https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/168880718593567/?extid=NS-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C

Michaell

I’ll go with $1200 for the X3 repair

stickguy

It’s just a quick sand and paint. Should not be too bad at a Indy shop. But maybe these days that qualifies.

qbrozen

roadburner said:

My wife took the Clubman to run some errands and announced that she would rather keep the Mini and flip the X1. Fine by me. The 4xe remains a possibility, although I may just go with a 2 door Rubicon. Another possibility is a CPO V8 GC Trailhawk. If I was leasing I’d love a new Defender, but I’m keeping whatever I get for the long haul.

Surprised you wouldn't go Trackhawk. lol.

But what appeals to you about the Trailhawk trim? Just curious.

roadburner

@qbrozen said:
Surprised you wouldn't go Trackhawk. lol.

But what appeals to you about the Trailhawk trim? Just curious.

I want some relatively serious off road capability if I have issues with a tree down or similar on my driveway. and it’s well equipped overall. I do want the upgrade package that includes xenons.
If I had the money I’d be ordering a Rubicon 392.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

It’s just a quick sand and paint. Should not be too bad at a Indy shop. But maybe these days that qualifies.

There are 19 listed items in the front bumper that have to be removed and re-installed. lol

28firefighter

@mjfloyd1 - couple complicating factors - (1) I'm still waiting for plates for my car, which means I can't flip it right now, (2) I actually need a car and can't wait another 6-9 weeks for another Jeep to come in, (3) my wife has a good sense of humor but not that good...

I know it is anti-CCBA but I just don't feel the need to look a gift horse in the mouth. I have a screaming lease on a truck I love and I didn't have to travel to get it. Good enough for me!

mjfloyd1

I should have bought ten of those TDI’s but wifey thought I’d get screwed. Now she wishes I would have bought ten…

I’ll stop at 2 4xe assuming I can get the next deal done. If not, oh well.

mjfloyd1

@28firefighter said:
@mjfloyd1 - couple complicating factors - (1) I'm still waiting for plates for my car, which means I can't flip it right now, (2) I actually need a car and can't wait another 6-9 weeks for another Jeep to come in, (3) my wife has a good sense of humor but not that good...

I know it is anti-CCBA but I just don't feel the need to look a gift horse in the mouth. I have a screaming lease on a truck I love and I didn't have to travel to get it. Good enough for me!

Can’t you bike with an umbrella?

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
You can’t see the scuffed part on the matte black molding from the pictures. That has to be replaced ($160, approx)

I’d use drcolorchip on the white part and just some back to black on the scuffed black molding

qbrozen

mjfloyd1 said:

I should have bought ten of those TDI’s but wifey thought I’d get screwed. Now she wishes I would have bought ten…

I’ll stop at 2 4xe assuming I can get the next deal done. If not, oh well.

If I order a second, I may try Mall of Georgia. Supposedly more like 10% off and no broker fee.

28firefighter

The only thing even remotely interesting about ordering another Jeep is getting the Sky One Touch roof instead of the hard top. But I wonder if it wouldn't get really annoying in winter and in general on the highway.

mjfloyd1

The sky one touch looks like a leak waiting to happen to me. Do a search on JL forums.

It is also like $2500 more than black hardtop and I doubt that you would recoup much of that at resale.

Can only open in good weather. Snow piles on top in winter. ..

I do hear that it is noisy too

stickguy

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

It’s just a quick sand and paint. Should not be too bad at a Indy shop. But maybe these days that qualifies.

There are 19 listed items in the front bumper that have to be removed and re-installed. lol

I’m sure you can find a place to do it on the car. Some paper and masking tape, and good to go.

stickguy

roadburner said:

@qbrozen said:

Surprised you wouldn't go Trackhawk. lol.

But what appeals to you about the Trailhawk trim? Just curious.

I want some relatively serious off road capability if I have issues with a tree down or similar on my driveway. and it’s well equipped overall. I do want the upgrade package that includes xenons.

If I had the money I’d be ordering a Rubicon 392.

Send your Wrangler to Texas and make your own hemi Jeep. Should be fun!

https://collinsbrosjeep.com/hemi-kits/

28firefighter

In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

mjfloyd1

@28firefighter said:
In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

“I pity the fool”

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

dammit! Where is my order!!

stickguy

Wow. I thought I did good last year getting $1,600 check for my TLX.

mjfloyd1

This has options for clear top for Jeeps. One does front and back clear tops. Some are just clear freedom panels.

I like the idea of clear freedom panels just to get some light.

https://jeetop.com/let-in-the-outdoors-sunroofs-for-the-jeep-wrangler-and-gladiator/

Looks like it is really an advertisement tho

tifighter

28firefighter said:

In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

Remind me how the federal credit factors into all of this?

stickguy

2 videos recently indicating in the last week about wholesale prices declining. Flying wheels one was real informative. He said there were a lot of “if” sales (high bid below reserve, so a stalemate) but most sales/bids lower.

Apparently it’s normal for prices to dip this time of year anywsy.

Michaell

tifighter said:

28firefighter said:

In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

Remind me how the federal credit factors into all of this?

The $7500 is a customer incentive and is used as a cap reduction, and lowers the adjusted cap cost on the lease.

au1994

mjfloyd1 said:

I should have bought ten of those TDI’s but wifey thought I’d get screwed. Now she wishes I would have bought ten…

I’ll stop at 2 4xe assuming I can get the next deal done. If not, oh well.

What color and what dealer on the 2nd one?

28firefighter

Michaell said:

tifighter said:

28firefighter said:

In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

Remind me how the federal credit factors into all of this?

The $7500 is a customer incentive and is used as a cap reduction, and lowers the adjusted cap cost on the lease.

What he said.

Also, CCAP does not charge unearned rent charge in buyouts, so it is literally just residual + remaining depreciation on the buyout.

au1994

mjfloyd1 said:

I should have bought ten of those TDI’s but wifey thought I’d get screwed. Now she wishes I would have bought ten…

I’ll stop at 2 4xe assuming I can get the next deal done. If not, oh well.

What color and what dealer on the 2nd one?

mjfloyd1 said:

The sky one touch looks like a leak waiting to happen to me. Do a search on JL forums.

It is also like $2500 more than black hardtop and I doubt that you would recoup much of that at resale.

Can only open in good weather. Snow piles on top in winter. ..

I do hear that it is noisy too

It wasn’t anything I considered, especially because of the price. I waffled back and forth on soft top vs hard top. My 07 was a soft top so I understand the drawbacks there but the hard top isn’t going to be easy to get off. Plus my wife was like 95% hard top so that was that.

stickguy

Just saw a bunch of comments that captives (FoMoCo in particular) were moving to stop letting dealers buy out a lease (just Ford dealers or the customer) so Carvana and Carmax are about to lose a big source of newer used cars.

28firefighter

Ford has always been like that, IIRC. Maybe they've restricted even further.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

It’s just a quick sand and paint. Should not be too bad at a Indy shop. But maybe these days that qualifies.

There are 19 listed items in the front bumper that have to be removed and re-installed. lol

I’m sure you can find a place to do it on the car. Some paper and masking tape, and good to go.

You'd be surprised how hard that is to find. Also, it's Mineral White Metallic paint. Not so sure a blend job will look very good.

In any case, it's likely I'll file a comprehensive claim, and I'll only be out $250.

au1994

stickguy said:

Just saw a bunch of comments that captives (FoMoCo in particular) were moving to stop letting dealers buy out a lease (just Ford dealers or the customer) so Carvana and Carmax are about to lose a big source of newer used cars.

Wondered how long that was going to take. Existing lessees should be ok but will be in new contracts maybe?

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

Wouldn’t the 4xe be less prone to a rollover with the 600-800 pound ballast battery underneath it?

We could hope, yes. However, it all depends on the comparison. If you're comparing to other Wranglers, then yes. If you're comparing to other EVs, like a Model S, then... no.

kyfdx

Anyway..

The estimate is $1366 from the body shop that does a lot of BMW work.
We'll see what State Farm says about it.

I can knock it down to about $1200 if I don't replace the black molding (and no one would ever notice).

I'll ask about a blend job on the car, but I've had literally no luck in getting that done, before (even at Fast Eddie's.. lol)

xwesx

corvette said:

Based on having the bumper cover of the G37 replaced, plus some additional because it's a BMW:
$800 to fill and paint existing bumper and replace molding (jinx, @roadburner !)
$1,900 if it needs a new bumper cover.

I was going to say $1,900 as well. Curious, that.

qbrozen

mjfloyd1 said:

This has options for clear top for Jeeps. One does front and back clear tops. Some are just clear freedom panels.

I like the idea of clear freedom panels just to get some light.

https://jeetop.com/let-in-the-outdoors-sunroofs-for-the-jeep-wrangler-and-gladiator/

Looks like it is really an advertisement tho

That's pretty cool. I think not a bad mod for $1200 (the front panels and shades). I may be inclined if my wife was keeping it for 3 years. Not that it would ever get turned in at lease end, but I wonder what would happen if you did turn it in with those in place. You'd also probably have no problem finding someone willing to swap with you for their stock top.

Michaell

28firefighter said:

Michaell said:

tifighter said:

28firefighter said:

In case anyone is curious, my buyout is $42,163 and Vroom offered $51,000 for it. Still not flipping it.

Remind me how the federal credit factors into all of this?

The $7500 is a customer incentive and is used as a cap reduction, and lowers the adjusted cap cost on the lease.

What he said.

Also, CCAP does not charge unearned rent charge in buyouts, so it is literally just residual + remaining depreciation on the buyout.

Funny, because the official information we have doesn't show the $7500, so when folks ask about incentives on the Wrangler 4xe, we tell them we don't have any. You all that have pulled the trigger (and other members) have stated the incentive exists.

mjfloyd1

@au1994 said:
What color and what dealer on the 2nd one?
It wasn’t anything I considered, especially because of the price. I waffled back and forth on soft top vs hard top. My 07 was a soft top so I understand the drawbacks there but the hard top isn’t going to be easy to get off. Plus my wife was like 95% hard top so that was that.

Trying local ish dealer In Kokomo IN again. Otherwise Gupton because it is closer and less doc fees.

Sting gray with saddle interior, black Hardtop, cold weather, safety, advanced safety, all weather mats, anti spin rear axle, proximity key

au1994

mjfloyd1 said:

@au1994 said:

What color and what dealer on the 2nd one?

It wasn’t anything I considered, especially because of the price. I waffled back and forth on soft top vs hard top. My 07 was a soft top so I understand the drawbacks there but the hard top isn’t going to be easy to get off. Plus my wife was like 95% hard top so that was that.

Trying local ish dealer In Kokomo IN again. Otherwise Gupton because it is closer and less doc fees.

Sting gray with saddle interior, black Hardtop, cold weather, safety, advanced safety, all weather mats, anti spin rear axle, proximity key

Nice! So we will have 2 Sting Gray’s, a white, Sarge Green and Granite Crystal. Mine is saddle as well.

Probably should have done all weather mats with mine as well. I didn’t think about the fact that the back and cargo (I think) are different on the 4xe due to the battery. I had planned on some from Quadratec or Weathertech.

28firefighter

Saddle is the best. All weather mats do not include a cargo tray, just as an FYI but are great.

roadburner

@28firefighter said:
The only thing even remotely interesting about ordering another Jeep is getting the Sky One Touch roof instead of the hard top. But I wonder if it wouldn't get really annoying in winter and in general on the highway.

I’d pay extra to delete that option.

sda

28firefighter said:

Saddle is the best. All weather mats do not include a cargo tray, just as an FYI but are great.

Look at what you've created, a Jeep monster! Good thing you aren't a bad influence.

nyccarguy

Out with the OEM Toyo Open Country A30s with 40,500 ish miles on them.

nyccarguy

And on with the new Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires.

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

Out with the OEM Toyo Open Country A30s with 40,500 ish miles on them.

We swapped for new Toyos at 34K miles, because we'd decided to extend the lease, and there was already no way they'd pass inspection. At least, we got 7 months out of them, and no issues at turn-in.

We like the old Toyos (other than the wear), and Discount Tire had a pretty good deal, so no point in switching.

au1994

nyccarguy said:

Out with the OEM Toyo Open Country A30s with 40,500 ish miles on them.

Not bad for OEM tires.

nyccarguy

@kyfdx

The OEM Toyos were significantly cheaper ($175 vs $226), but at the off chance I decide to buy the truck out after extending the lease 6 months I'll be covered. If I decide to sell it outright, these will look new even after 8 months and over 12 - 15K miles. The OEM Toyos have worn nicely.

explorerx4

This caught my eye. 2002 Tacoma.
https://www.lithiatoyotaredding.com/tcd/home?tcdvehicleid=3566e5d90a0e09a846ddb2e587ab95a3&utm_source=ddcads&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=dynamic&sd_channel=Display&sd_campaign_type=Display&sd_campaign=Dynamic Ads (Used Inventory) Remarketing&tcdcmpid=570688&tcdadid=28737&ddcrtb=1&sd_campaign=Dynamic+Ads+(Used+Inventory)+Remarketing&ddcref=display&impId=1625686002468_7447_ACT_B_5482117_S_1001_EUIDS_oH9yn6iLto78t0G3n9gdACiG_EUIDE_EXCHG_10

nyccarguy

I installed a new air filter & cabin filter too. The air filter didn't look too bad. The Cabin filter was black.

corvette

explorerx4 said:

This caught my eye. 2002 Tacoma.

I'm guessing less than 50% depreciation in 20 years. Unreal.

nyccarguy said:

I installed a new air filter & cabin filter too. The air filter didn't look too bad. The Cabin filter was black.

I wonder whether the dealer "forgot" to do the cabin filter at the last service? How's your wife's Pilot doing?

nyccarguy

corvette said:

explorerx4 said:

This caught my eye. 2002 Tacoma.

I'm guessing less than 50% depreciation in 20 years. Unreal.

nyccarguy said:

I installed a new air filter & cabin filter too. The air filter didn't look too bad. The Cabin filter was black.

I wonder whether the dealer "forgot" to do the cabin filter at the last service? How's your wife's Pilot doing?

Nope. They asked if I wanted it changed. I politely declined.