Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

mjfloyd1

@roadburner - what color interior would you want with the metallic purple thunder night metallic? Maybe light grey?

Did I mention that I like boring colors?

mjfloyd1

For me the 4xe is a relatively inexpensive way to get my daughter(s) into Jeep(s)

stickguy

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

Bradd, how’s the Pilot doing after the oil scare?

On the wrangler, I thought the $7,500 was federal EV tax credit. Is there also a lease credit on top of that?

CCAP passing along the tax credit as a rebate. Lessees don't get a tax credit

Thanks. I assume this means that CCAP actually gets the credit? If so, I Wonder how many other banks just pocket that?

kyfdx

stickguy said:

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

Bradd, how’s the Pilot doing after the oil scare?

On the wrangler, I thought the $7,500 was federal EV tax credit. Is there also a lease credit on top of that?

CCAP passing along the tax credit as a rebate. Lessees don't get a tax credit

Thanks. I assume this means that CCAP actually gets the credit? If so, I Wonder how many other banks just pocket that?

Yes.

It all works out in the end. The banks that don't offer a rebate, or partial rebate, tend to offer higher residuals and/or low money factors. Most lease programs are set up to achieve a payment that sells cars.

This is an anomaly that results in a really good lease deal, and possibly a good flip candidate.

nyccarguy

stickguy said:

Bradd, how’s the Pilot doing after the oil scare?

On the wrangler, I thought the $7,500 was federal EV tax credit. Is there also a lease credit on top of that?

So far so good. Knock on wood. I've been monitoring the oil level and it hasn't flinched. I had the injectors replaced by Honda at no charge. The Pilot has been running great as it should. My wife continues to pile miles on it while she works and shuttles my kids back and forth to whatever camps they at during the given week. No problems other than my wife's attraction to curbs.

tjc78

@nyccarguy said:
So far so good. Knock on wood. I've been monitoring the oil level and it hasn't flinched. I had the injectors replaced by Honda at no charge. The Pilot has been running great as it should. My wife continues to pile miles on it while she works and shuttles my kids back and forth to whatever camps they at during the given week. No problems other than my wife's attraction to curbs.

Well curbs is better than bollards. My wife has hit two now (one in the 17 Enclave and now the XC)

Haven’t got a quote yet, but I’m guessing at least $1000 and then I need to find a wheel guy to clean up the rash.

andres3

What is it with wives and hitting inanimate objects? Did I mention the Tiguan's side mirror (passenger side) took a good hit with the wall adjacent to our garage door opening backing out of our garage. Popped the cover off and broke some plastic including clips, but it was "fixable" to an acceptable degree including the use of adhesives so the repair cost was simply a bit of time thanks to the guys at Benny's Autobody doing favors for women.

henryn

I just received this in my email yesterday. This is from the Ford dealer where I bought my last new F150, 3 years ago. Sounds like where I would want to go to order a Maverick, if I were to do that.

Obviously, point number 3 isn't true, but other than that it sounds fair. Looking at the MSRP vs invoice on the Maverick, the difference is about $400 on the XL model, $445 on the XLT, and $510 on the Lariat.

explorerx4

I watched a YT video yesterday regarding Maverick's. The dealer was only allocated 1 non customer vehicle, so they need people to order them so they can get a bigger number of non customer vehicles.

henryn

explorerx4 said:

I watched a YT video yesterday regarding Maverick's. The dealer was only allocated 1 non customer vehicle, so they need people to order them so they can get a bigger number of non customer vehicles.

Sounds quite believable. And for those wondering about the spare tire on the Maverick, I found a little more information.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/product/2022/maverick/pdf/Maverick-Trim-Comparisons.pdf

It seems some models do get the full size spare tire included, while on others you have to pay $115 for it as an option. But there is a compact spare tire included at a minimum on all models.

roadburner

A Sunset Orange M2C with 3,200 miles on it turned up on my dealer’s lot yesterday. I balked at the price but my wife said “ You’re 64 and working after your retirement. Why shouldn’t you have something nice? We need to enjoy our lives while we have good health and blessings.”
It was a moot point as it sold before noon.
I give up.

28firefighter

Your wife is a wise woman.

mjfloyd1

@andres3 said:
What is it with wives and hitting inanimate objects? Did I mention the Tiguan's side mirror (passenger side) took a good hit with the wall adjacent to our garage door opening backing out of our garage. Popped the cover off and broke some plastic including clips, but it was "fixable" to an acceptable degree including the use of adhesives so the repair cost was simply a bit of time thanks to the guys at Benny's Autobody doing favors for women.

It’s not just women. I have backed into things.

People of all genders and even non-binary have accidents

henryn

mjfloyd1 said:

@andres3 said:

What is it with wives and hitting inanimate objects? Did I mention the Tiguan's side mirror (passenger side) took a good hit with the wall adjacent to our garage door opening backing out of our garage. Popped the cover off and broke some plastic including clips, but it was "fixable" to an acceptable degree including the use of adhesives so the repair cost was simply a bit of time thanks to the guys at Benny's Autobody doing favors for women.

It’s not just women. I have backed into things.

People of all genders and even non-binary have accidents

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The worst one I ever did, many years ago I owned a 3/4 ton Chevy custom van. It had the cargo doors in back, with the spare tire mounted on one of the cargo doors. I backed into a concrete post in a Luby's parking lot. The post was not tall enough to be seen through the rear windows, and it was too close to be seen in the outside rear view mirrors. It was a low speed impact on the spare tire, which crunched in that cargo door. If I had impacted on the opposite side, it would have hit the bumper and did minimal if any damage. The spare tire was undamaged, the cover was crumpled and the cargo door just gave in.

Lesson learned, if you're driving something like a van pay close attention to what's behind you BEFORE you get in the vehicle and start to back up. The only way I could have seen that concrete post was from outside the van, before I got in.

breld

roadburner said:

A Sunset Orange M2C with 3,200 miles on it turned up on my dealer’s lot yesterday. I balked at the price but my wife said “ You’re 64 and working after your retirement. Why shouldn’t you have something nice? We need to enjoy our lives while we have good health and blessings.”

It was a moot point as it sold before noon.

I give up.

You know better than I, but I think ordering a new model M240i is gonna be a perfect approach for you, as long as you're okay with the automatic since it sounds as though a manual may be reserved for the M2 only.

You can get exactly what you want as far as colors and options, and it may even feel like more of a change/upgrade from your 2014 than a current M2C.

Michaell

Please help a member with selling a car to Carvana

explorerx4

How about a guy 1/8th mile drag racing a 4XE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Reo57YMcH_0

au1994

Michaell said:

Please help a member with selling a car to Carvana

Not sure anyone around here would have any experience with that

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

Ahh. The peelers (don’t they look like a potato peeler??).

I’m digging the bike…I remember those days fondly

Hahah! You ruined it for me! I'll never get that association (potato peeler) out of my head now.

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

Well not flip it in the @xwesx sense…

/facepalm

As long as you don't turn me into a verb, I'm okay with this.

mjfloyd1

I’ve been @xwesx’d

xwesx

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

@roadburner - what color interior would you want with the metallic purple thunder night metallic? Maybe light grey?

Did I mention that I like boring colors?

When it comes to cars I’m trying to figure out what the hell you don’t like.

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

I like anything with a motor and transmission (or electric motor) in a boring color.

andres3

xwesx said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Ahh. The peelers (don’t they look like a potato peeler??).

I’m digging the bike…I remember those days fondly

Hahah! You ruined it for me! I'll never get that association (potato peeler) out of my head now.

You both have been spending too much time peeling potatoes. Was that really a "punishment" in the old days?

jmonroe1

andres3 said:

What is it with wives and hitting inanimate objects? Did I mention the Tiguan's side mirror (passenger side) took a good hit with the wall adjacent to our garage door opening backing out of our garage. Popped the cover off and broke some plastic including clips, but it was "fixable" to an acceptable degree including the use of adhesives so the repair cost was simply a bit of time thanks to the guys at Benny's Autobody doing favors for women.

Welcome to the club. Mrs. j has whacked the passenger side mirror on three cars so far. She hasn’t whacked the mirror on her ‘18 Legacy,YET, but I know it’s just a matter of time…it’s in her DNA. :@

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

@jmonroe1 said:
When it comes to cars I’m trying to figure out what the hell you don’t like.

jmonroe

I’m channeling my inner @breld

mjfloyd1

I worked with a hand surgeon who told me about his wife backing her vehicle out of the garage but there as a car towards her passenger side and she scraped the passenger side up on that car. Next she pulled forward and scratched/ dented the drivers side on the garage. Oops

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

A Sunset Orange M2C with 3,200 miles on it turned up on my dealer’s lot yesterday. I balked at the price but my wife said “ You’re 64 and working after your retirement. Why shouldn’t you have something nice? We need to enjoy our lives while we have good health and blessings.”

It was a moot point as it sold before noon.

I give up.

When wives suggest or don’t balk when their husbands buy a car they’re up to something. As a lot of you regulars know from another Edmunds site at least 10 years ago, that was a dining room suite in our house. It took quite a while for me to outwit her on that. To be honest, in the end it was one of her childhood friends who really rescued me buy telling her the one she had was plenty nice enough but if she insisted on getting another one she’d gladly take the old one. Whew !!!!

jmonroe

roadburner

@mjfloyd1 said:
@roadburner - what color interior would you want with the metallic purple thunder night metallic? Maybe light grey?

Did I mention that I like boring colors?

Gray or black, probably. Could go Superman with a red interior but probably too garish.

stickguy

Sounds like pent up demand after all for a compact PU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olMVXDgVu14

corvette

roadburner said:

Gray or black, probably. Could go Superman with a red interior but probably too garish.

Ivory/oyster/lemon would look good, if they offer it. Might be able to get away with one of the orange colors or saddle brown.

xwesx

corvette said:

roadburner said:

Gray or black, probably. Could go Superman with a red interior but probably too garish.

Ivory/oyster/lemon would look good, if they offer it. Might be able to get away with one of the orange colors or saddle brown.

Fully agreed. I don't know about orange... maybe.... definite 'yes' on the saddle.

sda

jmonroe1 said:

roadburner said:

A Sunset Orange M2C with 3,200 miles on it turned up on my dealer’s lot yesterday. I balked at the price but my wife said “ You’re 64 and working after your retirement. Why shouldn’t you have something nice? We need to enjoy our lives while we have good health and blessings.”

It was a moot point as it sold before noon.

I give up.

When wives suggest or don’t balk when their husbands buy a car they’re up to something. As a lot of you regulars know from another Edmunds site at least 10 years ago, that was a dining room suite in our house. It took quite a while for me to outwit her on that. To be honest, in the end it was one of her childhood friends who really rescued me buy telling her the one she had was plenty nice enough but if she insisted on getting another one she’d gladly take the old one. Whew !!!!

jmonroe

And you’ve slept in the basement since. Bread and water on a TV tray.

Sandman6472

Tire icon came on this morning so off to Goodyear I went. Thought it was the right rear tire where I picked up a metal thingy the other day but turns out the left front had a nail on the side of it. Not repairable, naturally, so since I had the road hazard policy, cost me $25 for the new tire plus $25 to get it road hazard protection. So, this year alone, 2 brand new tires due to nails getting in the sidewalls. But glad I've got the road hazard as a new tire would cost me $141 a pop plus the other fees...$25 I can handle!
Did take a few hours but luckily, was off today with no real plans except laundry later in the day. These issues are just part of life I guess!

Sandman6472

No more leakage in the garage but taking it in Monday morning just the same as something ain't right here, cars don't leak for no reason. Let them give it a look see & if it's nothing, they'll tell us but if not, they'll just fix it. The A3 ain't going anywhere for the foreseeable future so we gotta keep it running properly. And I'm betting they'll find a small leak, just not sure it's the oil due to it's almost pinkish color. The guy will let me know what's what.

mjfloyd1

@andres3 - those wheels are actually known as “peelers” on the Audi forums

mjfloyd1

Looks like another punch pending with local-ish dealer trading BMW X3m40i (for what I paid) for another 4xe. Same specs as other one except exterior color sting gray.

28firefighter

mjfloyd1 said:

Looks like another punch pending with local-ish dealer trading BMW X3m40i (for what I paid) for another 4xe. Same specs as other one excep exterior color sting gray.

Special order or in-stock?

Sandman6472

My passenger side mirror was destroyed after Hurricane Irma hit in 2017 but really was the wife's fault. She was guiding me as I backed out of our garage but she neglected to tell me the car was crooked! I backed out and hit the passenger door mirror and almost broke it off. Stopped over at VW and a tech came over & tried to fix it but hell, he just made it worse and then ran off when I complained to my S A. I was so pissed off and the dealership basically told me to "f" off!! At that moment, they lost me as a customer to be honest. And I haven't forgotten either. No more VW's for me at this point.

mjfloyd1

@28firefighter said:
Special order or in-stock?

Order

mjfloyd1

@Sandman6472 said:
My passenger side mirror was destroyed after Hurricane Irma hit in 2017 but really was the wife's fault. She was guiding me as I backed out of our garage but she neglected to tell me the car was crooked! I backed out and hit the passenger door mirror and almost broke it off. Stopped over at VW and a tech came over & tried to fix it but hell, he just made it worse and then ran off when I complained to my S A. I was so pissed off and the dealership basically told me to "f" off!! At that moment, they lost me as a customer to be honest. And I haven't forgotten either. No more VW's for me at this point.

It was broken when you arrived at the dealership…. I don’t get how it is their fault, to be honest

And how can it be your wife’s fault when your hands are on the steering wheel and you have three mirrors. Again, I don’t get it, to be honest

Sandman6472

If she wasn't directing me, doubt I would've hit the wall. I relied on the info she was giving me which was my mistake.
The mirror wasn't totally broken but was wobbly. After the tech tried to push it back into place, he broke whatever was holding it in and it just fell onto the door. Had to purchase a brand new mirror and have it painted, then installed. If he had been a bit gentler with it, doubt it would've ended it up like it did when he was done. And then he basically ran away once he saw how he really made it worse.
Learned a valuable lesson here, don't rely on others to help in certain situations. I did and it cost me...over $700 for a new mirror!

henryn

"over $700 for a new mirror" -- this is an outside rear view mirror? They don't cost that much, not where I come from. I replaced the outside rear view mirror on an Oldsmobile about 10 years ago, as I recall it cost me maybe $50 on Rockauto. It did have to be painted, but a can of color matching spray paint was under $10.

andres3

Sandman6472 said:

If she wasn't directing me, doubt I would've hit the wall. I relied on the info she was giving me which was my mistake.
The mirror wasn't totally broken but was wobbly. After the tech tried to push it back into place, he broke whatever was holding it in and it just fell onto the door. Had to purchase a brand new mirror and have it painted, then installed. If he had been a bit gentler with it, doubt it would've ended it up like it did when he was done. And then he basically ran away once he saw how he really made it worse.
Learned a valuable lesson here, don't rely on others to help in certain situations. I did and it cost me...over $700 for a new mirror!

I wouldn't fault them for "not being gentle enough." They tried to do you a favor, and this is probably the reason people don't do favors anymore and just say "I won't touch that because it's damaged and weakened." A good example is Audi dealerships won't do a patch n' plug on a tire. An attempt to fix it is better than saying "go buy a new one and come back when you have it."

andres3

henryn said:

"over $700 for a new mirror" -- this is an outside rear view mirror? They don't cost that much, not where I come from. I replaced the outside rear view mirror on an Oldsmobile about 10 years ago, as I recall it cost me maybe $50 on Rockauto. It did have to be painted, but a can of color matching spray paint was under $10.

The aluminum shell for a S4 side mirror is a $500 part. This doesn't include the other parts, pieces, mirror, or wiring. However, a Golf mirror is not an S4 mirror.

stickguy

if it came off that easily and couldn't be put back on, most likely it had to be replaced anyway.

mjfloyd1

Phrase for today is “situational awareness “.

Also the dealership tried to do you a favor and push it back into place. It was already broken. You still needed to fix it.

Shake my head

explorerx4

@mjfloyd1,
Hopefully spelled correctly this time. Playing the victim is very popular.

mjfloyd1

I just puked in my mouth a little with the thought of a metallic purple car with bright red interior. Super man was blue and red?????