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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    It seems a lot of people do not feel the need to work anymore. Are they independently wealthy? Have you considered replacing the Pilot with another Tacoma?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    I watched one test if the tundra. The new motor seems to haul that barge around quite easily. At least Sarah n tuned seemed to thing it did.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,326
    qbrozen said:

    Yes, roughly 2 vehicles back-to-back under the building for parking. I didn't think to measure the length, but I guesstimate it to be about 35 feet, based on the fact I had the transit parked under there and took up slightly more than half the space. However, the back end has storage closets, so I need to leave a little room.

    Folks down there use cable locks to secure an axle to a garage column.

    Gee, someday you could find your elevated condo on the ground level. Look at this on the bright side, it could increase your rental value when you advertise it as “no steps therefore wheelchair friendly”.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,496
    sda said:

    It seems a lot of people do not feel the need to work anymore. Are they independently wealthy? Have you considered replacing the Pilot with another Tacoma?

    Right now and for the foreseeable future, having a 3 row SUV works well for us. If I can get a Tacoma like mine at sticker right now, the payment would end up being significantly higher than what I'm currently paying.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] ColoradoPosts: 0
    @nyccarguy, what will you sell the Tacoma for? ;)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    Does Toyota finance (or is this one that pain of a 3rd party lease firm?) still allow selling out a lease to a Carmax type operation?

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,496
    stickguy said:

    Does Toyota finance (or is this one that pain of a 3rd party lease firm?) still allow selling out a lease to a Carmax type operation?

    As of today, yes.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736

    @jmonroe1 said:
    Gee, someday you could find your elevated condo on the ground level. Look at this on the bright side, it could increase your rental value when you advertise it as “no steps therefore wheelchair friendly”.

    jmonroe

    I’d feel really bad for the 4 owners on the floor above the garage, though, if my floor crushed theirs. ;b

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,496
    dad23 said:

    @nyccarguy, what will you sell the Tacoma for? ;)

    Ha! You are funny. Under normal circumstances, I'd say lets make a deal. But I'm looking to capitalize on the current insane market.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736

    Spotted a nice-looking SX4 AWD hatch with 100k miles on CL. Waiting to see if owner responds.

    I reached out to a few more FB listings. I asked one if their Tribute was AWD or FWD, to which the “dealer” replied “come down and see it!” Then there is a Durango owner who, when asked “what is the rust situation?” Said “yes.” I guess maybe I set myself up for that. And, finally, an Explorer owner who said “I guess v6” when I inquired on how many cylinders it has.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    edited October 2021
    Now I remember why occasionally I talk about buying a cheap beater, but never do!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    There is a dealer in Philly with an '05 Tribute V6 4wd with 107k miles. Has some cosmetic issues and an ABS light, which I'm sure will detract most buyers. Just not sure when I'm willing to make the 45-min drive. Seems like I should be able to find a cheap car closer to home. But, then again, maybe not.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,825
    qbrozen said:

    There is a dealer in Philly with an '05 Tribute V6 4wd with 107k miles. Has some cosmetic issues and an ABS light, which I'm sure will detract most buyers. Just not sure when I'm willing to make the 45-min drive. Seems like I should be able to find a cheap car closer to home. But, then again, maybe not.

    You really want to drive that all the way to SC?
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] ColoradoPosts: 0
    nyccarguy said:

    dad23 said:

    @nyccarguy, what will you sell the Tacoma for? ;)

    Ha! You are funny. Under normal circumstances, I'd say lets make a deal. But I'm looking to capitalize on the current insane market.
    I hope you do exceptionally well!!!
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    qbrozen said:



    Folks down there use cable locks to secure an axle to a garage column.

    Is that so they don’t float away or is there a big theft problem?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736

    qbrozen said:

    There is a dealer in Philly with an '05 Tribute V6 4wd with 107k miles. Has some cosmetic issues and an ABS light, which I'm sure will detract most buyers. Just not sure when I'm willing to make the 45-min drive. Seems like I should be able to find a cheap car closer to home. But, then again, maybe not.

    You really want to drive that all the way to SC?
    What's wrong with a tribute? Or do you mean because of the ABS light? There is a common issue on those that is easily fixed.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,825
    qbrozen said:

    qbrozen said:

    There is a dealer in Philly with an '05 Tribute V6 4wd with 107k miles. Has some cosmetic issues and an ABS light, which I'm sure will detract most buyers. Just not sure when I'm willing to make the 45-min drive. Seems like I should be able to find a cheap car closer to home. But, then again, maybe not.

    You really want to drive that all the way to SC?
    What's wrong with a tribute? Or do you mean because of the ABS light? There is a common issue on those that is easily fixed.
    I was referring to the ABS light and just generally road tripping a car that far at the price point you are discussing. But I suppose what better way to pressure test its reliability.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,496
    qbrozen said:

    Spotted a nice-looking SX4 AWD hatch with 100k miles on CL. Waiting to see if owner responds.

    I reached out to a few more FB listings. I asked one if their Tribute was AWD or FWD, to which the “dealer” replied “come down and see it!” Then there is a Durango owner who, when asked “what is the rust situation?” Said “yes.” I guess maybe I set myself up for that. And, finally, an Explorer owner who said “I guess v6” when I inquired on how many cylinders it has.

    Made my afternoon!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    nyccarguy said:

    Everyone here knows how much I love my Tacoma. It has been nothing short of fantastic over the past 2+ years. Part of the allure is the fact that I've been able to use it to make deliveries for work. I can't remember a personal or work task that was thrown at it (or in it) that my Tacoma couldn't handle. Another big part of my Tacoma experience that gave it a big push in the 1st place was the price. After MSD (which saved me $50 per month), my payment is $324.99 including 6.35% CT Sales Tax.

    You all know I ordered a Hydro Blue 4Xe Wrangler for my wife. Once that arrives, I plan on selling my Tacoma and either driving or replacing the Pilot as my DD.

    Finally after what has been somewhat of an exhaustive search, I hired a new employee to drive our Box Truck. I had one day where I scheduled 3 interviews and none of them showed up. I interviewed and hired a guy last Monday. Told him on Tuesday that he will start Thursday, confirmed with him via email and he never showed up. I finally found a guy that I interviewed and hired yesterday to start Thursday.

    Is the Tacoma a lease? If so why not buy it out and keep it or flip it?

    As to the hiring, I feel your pain. Our company had a job fair, only 4 people showed up, one agreed to take a job and he never showed on start day. I just saw a news story that said 4 million people just refuse to work. How can that be? What are they living on?

    My whole working life the biggest fear I had was to not have a job. If I accepted employment I’d commit to staying at least a year unless there was something extraordinarily bad about it. I’d never agree to start work and then not show up. It’s a different world these days.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    nyccarguy said:
    I know those have quite a fan base and the miles are good but $17k?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,197
    I liked the SX4 when it was first released, then discovered that the small gas tank and less-than-stellar gas mileage made the range around 200 miles per tank.

    But, given the driving you'll be doing in SC, it may be a great runabout.

    I drove my FIL's 15 year old Subaru with 120K miles from CO to CA without a hitch, and I've got about 1% of your mechanical skills. I don't think a drive from NJ to SC will be that big of a deal.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,496

    nyccarguy said:

    Everyone here knows how much I love my Tacoma. It has been nothing short of fantastic over the past 2+ years. Part of the allure is the fact that I've been able to use it to make deliveries for work. I can't remember a personal or work task that was thrown at it (or in it) that my Tacoma couldn't handle. Another big part of my Tacoma experience that gave it a big push in the 1st place was the price. After MSD (which saved me $50 per month), my payment is $324.99 including 6.35% CT Sales Tax.

    You all know I ordered a Hydro Blue 4Xe Wrangler for my wife. Once that arrives, I plan on selling my Tacoma and either driving or replacing the Pilot as my DD.

    Finally after what has been somewhat of an exhaustive search, I hired a new employee to drive our Box Truck. I had one day where I scheduled 3 interviews and none of them showed up. I interviewed and hired a guy last Monday. Told him on Tuesday that he will start Thursday, confirmed with him via email and he never showed up. I finally found a guy that I interviewed and hired yesterday to start Thursday.

    Is the Tacoma a lease? If so why not buy it out and keep it or flip it?

    As to the hiring, I feel your pain. Our company had a job fair, only 4 people showed up, one agreed to take a job and he never showed on start day. I just saw a news story that said 4 million people just refuse to work. How can that be? What are they living on?

    My whole working life the biggest fear I had was to not have a job. If I accepted employment I’d commit to staying at least a year unless there was something extraordinarily bad about it. I’d never agree to start work and then not show up. It’s a different world these days.
    The Tacoma is a lease. It can be flipped without buying me buying it out. I'm hoping that even with the acceident it should stll sell for a few thousand over the buyout.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    kyfdx said:

    Told my wife of the potential plan to sell the GTI and buy the '99 Cherokee.

    Not impressed. :D

    Better be careful, she might get a switch and chase you around the table like @jmonroe1.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284


    As to the hiring, I feel your pain. Our company had a job fair, only 4 people showed up, one agreed to take a job and he never showed on start day. I just saw a news story that said 4 million people just refuse to work. How can that be? What are they living on?

    Government handouts, one can only presume.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,681

    qbrozen said:



    Folks down there use cable locks to secure an axle to a garage column.

    Is that so they don’t float away or is there a big theft problem?
    Probably just peace of mind, because if there *was* a big theft problem, a cable lock wouldn't do much to slow a thief down!
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,681
    nyccarguy said:


    You all know I ordered a Hydro Blue 4Xe Wrangler for my wife. Once that arrives, I plan on selling my Tacoma and either driving or replacing the Pilot as my DD.

    Oh, it was YOU that ordered the forksy! I thought maybe I was losing my mind the other day when speaking with @28firefighter ; turns out, I'm just losing my attention to the details....
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736

    qbrozen said:



    Folks down there use cable locks to secure an axle to a garage column.

    Is that so they don’t float away or is there a big theft problem?
    My guess is it is more accidental theft. You know how old folks can be. ;b

    To add some context, when I was down there last week, a cart was in my garage space. Came to find out it belonged to a different unit and he "probably got confused when parking it."

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    Don’t get me started on the hiring and perceived labor shortage. My company is struggling like everyone else.

    I really feel for the restaurant’s. Its so common now to walk in, see 6-8 empty tables and be told its a 30 minute wait. One of our favorite places is in a nice live, work, play development. We rolled in Saturday for a late lunch at 2. Closed up tight till 3. When we got in and asked the bartender he said they had to give up on the lunch revenue on Saturday, just couldn’t staff it. He says the staff and cooks in particular, that show up are already working 55-60 hours a week. Thats a lotta time in a commercial kitchen.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    That built up over time though. Places that paid like crap and treated like dirt, and as soon as business slowed let go of staff, telling them essentially too bad, find something else. So employees did, and have no desire to go back to a really hard job for lousy pay and no benefits.

    Not every place was like that, but many were, and traditionally the industry paid poorly. Plus often the hours suck.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    edited October 2021
    Agree that the hours could suck, but its a restaurant open till ?? so they knew that going in.

    Pay may not have been great, but with tips at the busier places people were doing ok.

    But where are the employees going? Grocery stores? Nope they are struggling. Retail? Ditto.

    Home on the couch? Hmm…

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,681
    au1994 said:

    Home on the couch? Hmm…

    Yeah, right now the unemployment benefits are too good for a lot folks to turn down. You know said benefits are too high when people make the choice to take that over making an honest living.
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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234

    When I was in the pizza delivery biz, I noticed that when we were slammed, the operation became less efficient. Understaffing will feed on itself when the tips start to dry up and people look for something else to do.

    Not to mention the effects of the pandemic, which 25 years removed from the service industry I can only speculate on. But I think people are going to shy away from jobs where they don’t feel safe.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,593
    Rather than extra unemployment benefits (which have ended), it's more likely the $3200 p/p stimulus payments over the last 18 months.

    Also, inertia is a thing. Once people realized that they could get transportation to a warehouse, paying $720-$800/wk + overtime, then food service didn't look so great.

    Eyes were opened.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    qbrozen said:

    qbrozen said:



    Folks down there use cable locks to secure an axle to a garage column.

    Is that so they don’t float away or is there a big theft problem?
    My guess is it is more accidental theft. You know how old folks can be. ;b

    To add some context, when I was down there last week, a cart was in my garage space. Came to find out it belonged to a different unit and he "probably got confused when parking it."
    Probably the sense of entitlement some of those old folks have.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,197
    kyfdx said:

    Rather than extra unemployment benefits (which have ended), it's more likely the $3200 p/p stimulus payments over the last 18 months.

    Also, inertia is a thing. Once people realized that they could get transportation to a warehouse, paying $720-$800/wk + overtime, then food service didn't look so great.

    Eyes were opened.

    Yup.

    My old Dominos manager made a post onto NextDoor, introducing herself as the regional manager for the stores in the county (there are, I think, 6 or 7 total).

    She related a story about how one of her drivers was assaulted by a customer, demanding a free pizza. Cops were called, and the customer immediately accused the driver of initiating the scuffle.

    No charges were filed, ultimately.

    Everybody is struggling to find good help.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    au1994 said:

    Agree that the hours could suck, but its a restaurant open till ?? so they knew that going in.

    Pay may not have been great, but with tips at the busier places people were doing ok.

    But where are the employees going? Grocery stores? Nope they are struggling. Retail? Ditto.

    Home on the couch? Hmm…

    It’s not just low paying restaurant jobs, there’s a shortage in the trucking industry too with salaries as high as $90k. Same with bus drivers. My old place is paying in the high $20s per hour now.

    Of course you have to pass the drug test to get those jobs.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    bus drivers down here are almost all private companies that contract. And always tried to pay low. No benefits of course, and nobody had the drivers back if a parent complained. Plus, it takes a long time now to get through all the background checks and CDL certs (which I think they expected applicants to pay for). All for a part time job that took up your morning and afternoon. Plus of course, having to drive around a bunch of kids you weren't allowed to control!

    Not surprised they can't find people lining up to drive for $10/hr but only what, 4 hours per day and only when school was in? Oh, they also lost their best source (retired people) to a large extent.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736

    Our district advertises $25/hr for bus drivers. More than I made as a substitute.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,281


    Of course you have to pass the drug test to get those jobs.

    And you don't, for many of the others.

    (Congrats to drugs for winning the war on drugs, BTW, very unexpected result!)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    qbrozen said:

    Our district advertises $25/hr for bus drivers. More than I made as a substitute.

    When, in 1990 I was looking for a second job to supplement my farm income I had two choices: work as a substitute teacher (I have all the credentials except the teaching certificate) or get a CDL and drive a bus.

    The bus paid more than the teaching position.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,825

    @kyfdx said:
    Rather than extra unemployment benefits (which have ended), it's more likely the $3200 p/p stimulus payments over the last 18 months.

    Also, inertia is a thing. Once people realized that they could get transportation to a warehouse, paying $720-$800/wk + overtime, then food service didn't look so great.

    Eyes were opened.

    This is the correct answer. Raise wages (gasp) and you’ll be astonished how quickly you can find help.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,281

    This is the correct answer. Raise wages (gasp) and you’ll be astonished how quickly you can find help.

    The fast food joints near me had already raised wages significantly above minimum wage, prior to the pandemic... Now, they've raised them even more, with retention bonuses, etc., and still can't hire enough people to be able to open their dining rooms.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Not sure there's any significant evidence of that taking place, however. Almost all pandemic-related assistance has expired. IMO what we have now is the pandemic aftermath forcing a correction in wages, which have been stagnant if not literally suppressed for at least a generation, if not more. Unwillingness to pay is at least as impactful as unwillingness to work, and I suspect even moreso.

    Unfortunately, it will be used as an excuse to increase prices, as profit margins mostly reaped by a small few must retain growth. Spending power may not exactly pace wages via this inflation, but it might increase a little, and anything helps.
    xwesx said:

    au1994 said:

    Home on the couch? Hmm…

    Yeah, right now the unemployment benefits are too good for a lot folks to turn down. You know said benefits are too high when people make the choice to take that over making an honest living.
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,326
    xwesx said:

    au1994 said:

    Home on the couch? Hmm…

    Yeah, right now the unemployment benefits are too good for a lot folks to turn down. You know said benefits are too high when people make the choice to take that over making an honest living.
    Yep, too much free money has made too many people too lazy but it hasn’t made them too stupid.

    I think I said that right. :o

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    corvette said:

    This is the correct answer. Raise wages (gasp) and you’ll be astonished how quickly you can find help.

    The fast food joints near me had already raised wages significantly above minimum wage, prior to the pandemic... Now, they've raised them even more, with retention bonuses, etc., and still can't hire enough people to be able to open their dining rooms. </block

    Arby’s around here is advertising $15/hr plus a $500 retention bonus.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,950

    Our district had problems finding enough bus drivers too. They ended up altering school hours so the fewer drivers had more time to get the kids to school. My daughter in K doesn’t get home until a little after 4.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    tjc78 said:

    Our district had problems finding enough bus drivers too. They ended up altering school hours so the fewer drivers had more time to get the kids to school. My daughter in K doesn’t get home until a little after 4.

    Same here. At the beginning of the school year there were kids not getting home til 6.

    I have a friend in the trucking business. They can’t get enough drivers now and these are good paying jobs with a stable route, home every night. He’s been in the office for several years now but is finding the driving money so attractive now that he is considering going back to the truck. He’s mid 50’s and see’s it as a nice way to sock away some extra for retirement.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284


    This is the correct answer. Raise wages (gasp) and you’ll be astonished how quickly you can find help.

    You just need to get people to pay $20 for a burger at McDonald's, and to pay more for the actual skilled tradespeople who will now be demanding a commensurate increase in their wages to keep them above those flipping said burgers.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,825
    edited October 2021

    @ab348 said:
    You just need to get people to pay $20 for a burger at McDonald's, and to pay more for the actual skilled tradespeople who will now be demanding a commensurate increase in their wages to keep them above those flipping said burgers.

    That would be true, except it isn’t. One of the oldest burger chains in the PNW pays $19 an hour to start, fully paid healthcare, and tuition reimbursement. Their burgers are still $1.80 to start.

    Anyway, no more from me on this. Not the appropriate forum.

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