Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

Just watched this. Seems like GTI is better overall, if you can live with the traction issues.

https://youtu.be/zC2fS-6NYFQ

explorerx4

Stickguy,
Did you see the video of TFL testing Maverick payload?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cxGdlL-0OI&t=929s

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

wonder where this will end up

No telling. Never imported to US. What can you compare it to?

Perfect for an M3 engine swap, though.

With those miles, at $8500 it is already higher than I'd go.

For kicks, I threw a cheap bid on this one.

And keeping an eye on this import and this awesome color combo.

I have to wonder, would those high mileage cars be coming on the market during normal times? I mean, would the owners give them up for a few thousand that they would command in the previous market? Has the current crazy prices become high enough for the owner to say that this is the right time?

tjc78

Looking at the Lexus deal, I wonder it I would be able to pull off something similar in the next few months with Volvo.

Cash out a bit of equity, and roll into a S60 plug in at a modest discount and tax credit.

Hmm.. will have to start researching that. May end up at a higher monthly but pickup some cash

Thoughts?

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Beautiful example of one of these. OF can pick it up on his travels.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/35XaR4BR/2004-acura-tl

Pretty pricey but I like the mileage. Weren’t those the generation with the glass transmissions?

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

@stickguy said:

Beautiful example of one of these. OF can pick it up on his travels.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/35XaR4BR/2004-acura-tl

He’s not interested. Not enough rust.

jmonroe

Oh contraire’. Rust is my nemesis. 3 out my four vehicles are rust free. The one rust bucket is the one I’m trying to replace.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Stickguy,
Did you see the video of TFL testing Maverick payload?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cxGdlL-0OI&t=929s

How would you like to be the next owner of that press truck?

stickguy

I saw but did not watch that video. I don’t plan to load mine down quite so much.

Also they finally approved the hybrid to sell. Should see those hitting driveways later in December. Tons built but not sent out yet. And likely they switch to mostly hybrid production for a while. Wonder when mine finally gets scheduled ?

qbrozen

I hope that s60R pushes up to 6500 at least so I won't be depressed.

stickguy

S60 has the best color combo. And seems like many common problems already taken care of.

But no spaceball. Ruins it.

qbrozen

multiple bids at once. I'm going nuts!
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rE7V2JdO/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo

28firefighter

tjc78 said:

Looking at the Lexus deal, I wonder it I would be able to pull off something similar in the next few months with Volvo.

Cash out a bit of equity, and roll into a S60 plug in at a modest discount and tax credit.

Hmm.. will have to start researching that. May end up at a higher monthly but pickup some cash

Thoughts?

Your only feasible way to get any equity out of it, truly. Volvo doesn't allow 3P buyouts or buyouts by Volvo dealers even UNLESS you're getting a new Volvo from that dealer.

The risk is that the dealer lowballs because they know you don't have any choice.

corvette

@kyfdx said:
A BMW S52 swap would give you 240 HP, and you'd basically have an M3 wagon.

Something else that comes to mind that would give you 240 HP is a supercharged Buick 3800. Subscribe to my channel for more great mod ideas.

qbrozen

I'm high bidder on the S60R now. I'm certain I'll be outbid. Just feels exciting to have 3 current winning bids. LOL.

xwesx

explorerx4 said:

Stickguy,
Did you see the video of TFL testing Maverick payload?

That was pretty great. That's what I would do with it, too.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

I'm high bidder on the S60R now. I'm certain I'll be outbid. Just feels exciting to have 3 current winning bids. LOL.

You just got jumped on the ZX. By $7,500

I would like that model. Though that one has sat a lot. And given the age, and my lack of repair skills, would prefer the non turbo. Much simpler but still plenty fast for me.

qbrozen

stickguy said:

You just got jumped on the ZX. By $7,500

I would like that model. Though that one has sat a lot. And given the age, and my lack of repair skills, would prefer the non turbo. Much simpler but still plenty fast for me.

yeah, that dude wasn't playing. lol.

qbrozen

And, as I suspected, my volvo bid wasn't even close.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

multiple bids at once. I'm going nuts!
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rE7V2JdO/1990-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo

Chrome wheels.

stickguy

After watching this, I’m sorry I didn’t go after the Si harder. Though the $2,500 ADM was a turnoff. Looks like a lot of fun to drive. If the Integra does this, with the hatch and comfier power seats, I won’t care if it looks like a cross tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocz4mIe7nXg

tjc78

@28firefighter said:
Your only feasible way to get any equity out of it, truly. Volvo doesn't allow 3P buyouts or buyouts by Volvo dealers even UNLESS you're getting a new Volvo from that dealer.

The risk is that the dealer lowballs because they know you don't have any choice.

Exactly. They have you pretty much 100% locked in. I figure with the current situation may be the only way to get a decent overall deal is to get another Volvo.

The plug in is under 5 seconds to 60 and goes 22 miles on a charge. That would be perfect for many of my drives.

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

@kyfdx said:

A BMW S52 swap would give you 240 HP, and you'd basically have an M3 wagon.

Something else that comes to mind that would give you 240 HP is a supercharged Buick 3800. Subscribe to my channel for more great mod ideas.

If you’re throwing crazy engine swaps around how about a Ford 4.6L 4 valve? 280-320 hp depending on which car you pull it out of.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

I'm high bidder on the S60R now. I'm certain I'll be outbid. Just feels exciting to have 3 current winning bids. LOL.

What happens if you win them all?

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

I'm high bidder on the S60R now. I'm certain I'll be outbid. Just feels exciting to have 3 current winning bids. LOL.

What happens if you win them all?

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

I'm high bidder on the S60R now. I'm certain I'll be outbid. Just feels exciting to have 3 current winning bids. LOL.

What happens if you win them all?

He has fun explaining it to his wife. Carvana ain’t buying those cars from him.

stickguy

tjc78 said:

@28firefighter said:

Your only feasible way to get any equity out of it, truly. Volvo doesn't allow 3P buyouts or buyouts by Volvo dealers even UNLESS you're getting a new Volvo from that dealer.

The risk is that the dealer lowballs because they know you don't have any choice.

Exactly. They have you pretty much 100% locked in. I figure with the current situation may be the only way to get a decent overall deal is to get another Volvo.

The plug in is under 5 seconds to 60 and goes 22 miles on a charge. That would be perfect for many of my drives.

You do have a choice. Go to a different dealer.

au1994

tjc78 said:

@28firefighter said:

Your only feasible way to get any equity out of it, truly. Volvo doesn't allow 3P buyouts or buyouts by Volvo dealers even UNLESS you're getting a new Volvo from that dealer.

The risk is that the dealer lowballs because they know you don't have any choice.

Exactly. They have you pretty much 100% locked in. I figure with the current situation may be the only way to get a decent overall deal is to get another Volvo.

The plug in is under 5 seconds to 60 and goes 22 miles on a charge. That would be perfect for many of my drives.

Pretty good numbers and we know the S60 is a nice package. I’ve gotten into the habit of putting the Jeep in all electric to save every once of gas I can. I took it to the lake for the holiday but prior to that I was showing over 36 mpg. Even after the road trip and lots of dino powered driving up there, I’m still at 31.

breld

Got the call from our Audi dealership today that my wife's A4 Allroad is entering production in a few days.

I broke the news to him that she chose to go with the M340i instead, stating that she was attracted to the more performance-oriented vehicle instead of the wagon body style.

He went on to say how the HP figures don't tell the whole picture - that the A4 is plenty fast. I thought that was a funny comeback, since the obvious one would have been to say they could have sold us an S4.

And yes, before I returned their call I did let my wife know that I'm sure we could trade out the M340i for the wagon if she still wanted it...that we didn't have to cancel the order. She declined.

breld

Wow...I REALLY like this.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=613985227&zip=80016&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=80016&city=Aurora&incremental=all&modelCodeList=BMWM240I&makeCodeList=BMW&transmissionCodes=MAN&sortBy=relevance&location=%5Bobject+Object%5D&state=CO&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&marketExtension=include&relevanceConfig=default&searchRadius=0&isNewSearch=false&numRecords=25&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=BMWM240I&makeCodeList=BMW&searchRadius=0&clickType=spotlight

qbrozen

Good price compared to the couple of recent sales. What’s stopping you?

stickguy

that is a sweet looking unit. Must be sold, not coming up on the Carvana site. I assume AutoTrader lags quite a bit.

unless of course Breld already bought it! Was only in DC. I could have trained down and driven it home!

stickguy

Sarah N Tuned dropped an Si review too. She loved it. Now I really want to see one in person. Too bad they don't exist in the real world.

jmonroe1

@oldfarmer50 said:
What happens if you win them all?

He gets to live in the outhouse.

jmonroe

qbrozen

I'm sure we were all aware I wouldn't win any. lol.

Anyway... moving on ... here is something I have never seen before. https://carfromjapan.com/cheap-used-subaru-vivio-bistro-1996-for-sale-609f3a20046489fdd2969e5c

jmonroe1

@qbrozen said:
I'm sure we were all aware I wouldn't win any. lol.

Anyway... moving on ... here is something I have never seen before. https://carfromjapan.com/cheap-used-subaru-vivio-bistro-1996-for-sale-609f3a20046489fdd2969e5c

Yikes, you can have. You won’t have to worry about me out bidding you.

jmonroe

stickguy

Japan has so many weird cars. I like it!

qbrozen

@stickguy said:
Japan has so many weird cars. I like it!

As do I. Well… I did… then I found out they made a supercharged version. Those break 5 figures, however. I will say, though, I think the 5-door is better looking.

qbrozen

Of course, for 5 figures, I’d be better off with something more like this:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/314198350

Michaell

stickguy said:

Sarah N Tuned dropped an Si review too. She loved it. Now I really want to see one in person. Too bad they don't exist in the real world.

Saw that, too.

fintail

Japan has some awesome bikes that are importable too = I am somewhat in love with this one, but it's not cheap.

Maybe a good thing I have a car or two that fight for my wallet.

breld

@qbrozen said:
Good price compared to the couple of recent sales. What’s stopping you?

Well, given the recent home purchase and all that goes with that, that’s more than I’d want to spend on a fun car at this point.

And, as @stickguy pointed out, it looks like it’s not actually available. So there’s that too. 😀

stickguy

qbrozen said:

Of course, for 5 figures, I’d be better off with something more like this:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/314198350

dang. I like that one. would qualify as a cheap fun car. nice low miles. Not buying from Texas though. Need to find stuff closer by!

benjaminh

stickguy said:

After watching this, I’m sorry I didn’t go after the Si harder. Though the $2,500 ADM was a turnoff. Looks like a lot of fun to drive. If the Integra does this, with the hatch and comfier power seats, I won’t care if it looks like a cross tour....

The new Integra looks a lot better than a Crosstour. Let me count the ways—1. Front view. 2. Side view. 3. Back view. The Crosstour was an unfortunate looking vehicle, although mechanically and functionally it was good. The Integra in contrast is a sleek hatchback should be a lot of fun to drive. Plus the Integra will obviously have a more luxurious interior than the Si. Although I'd probably get used to it if I owned one, the red almost everywhere on the inside of the Si isn't my favorite. In any case, in six months or so maybe supplies will have increased enough for all vehicles so that ADMs can be negotiated away, even though I'm sure they'll still be pasted next to the Monroneys on most vehicles.

qbrozen

@stickguy said:
dang. I like that one. would qualify as a cheap fun car. nice low miles. Not buying from Texas though. Need to find stuff closer by!

What you got against Texas?

I found closer ones, but not with those miles. A few with 75k. Plus, of course, closer ones could have seen some bad winters.

explorerx4

That report in the Subaru pictures was very informative. For someone.

stickguy

Red does not bother me. Too tight seats do though (more of an issue for the wife. )

rayainsw

breld -
"M340i instead"
Initial impressions?
- Ray
Assuming you have been able to drive it...?

stickguy

qbrozen said:

@stickguy said:

dang. I like that one. would qualify as a cheap fun car. nice low miles. Not buying from Texas though. Need to find stuff closer by!

What you got against Texas?

I found closer ones, but not with those miles. A few with 75k. Plus, of course, closer ones could have seen some bad winters.

Shipping hassles and cost partly. But I’m still old school. I want to see and drive a car before I buy it!

rayainsw

RE: My M340i service - issue that triggered the CEL was
a problem with the active grille shutters.

Looks like the same issue encountered by C+D in their extended test:
“During our first trip out west, the active grille shutters that contribute to the M340i's aerodynamic slipperiness became stuck in the open position, illuminating a check-engine light. When we returned to Michigan, the dealer replaced the lower shutter assembly under warranty.”

Mine - at just past 20,000 miles.
- Ray
Surprised that my local dealer had the replacement part in stock!

rayainsw

Also – my rear Michelins were nearly down to the wear bars –
at just over 21,000 miles.
[ apparently SOMEONE who drives my car
enjoys using ALL the TQ available - occasionally… ]
Interesting that my usual tire place says Michelin tells them
that this size in ‘on national backorder’. And no ETA.
[ TireRack showed only a couple in stock. ]
My BMW dealer had 2 – so I negotiated a favorable
deal & had them installed there.
- Ray
TQ addict...

kyfdx

rayainsw said:

Also – my rear Michelins were nearly down to the wear bars –
at just over 21,000 miles.
[ apparently SOMEONE who drives my car
enjoys using ALL the TQ available - occasionally… ]
Interesting that my usual tire place says Michelin tells them
that this size in ‘on national backorder’. And no ETA.
[ TireRack showed only a couple in stock. ]
My BMW dealer had 2 – so I negotiated a favorable
deal & had them installed there.
- Ray
TQ addict...

Summer rubber?