Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

sda

It is 75 and cloudy today. Rain tomorrow, high in the 40s Monday. Needed to get out of the house. I was a little surprised to find most car dealers open today as they have sparse inventory. I guess a sale is a sale.

jmonroe1

@roadburner said:
I had an "Expert" in another topic tell me that my 2002 would have run just as well if it had all the OEM pollution controls- of course he had never driven a BMW of that vintage with OR without pollution controls. I have, and you immediately removed the EGR garbage and the vacuum retard on the distributor to make the car an enjoyable drive.

Back in those days I removed the vacuum line from the EGR valve and inserted a golf tee. I also removed the catalytic converter and that provided an even better improvement. Constipation ain’t good for anything.

jmonroe

roadburner

jmonroe1 said:

@roadburner said:

I had an "Expert" in another topic tell me that my 2002 would have run just as well if it had all the OEM pollution controls- of course he had never driven a BMW of that vintage with OR without pollution controls. I have, and you immediately removed the EGR garbage and the vacuum retard on the distributor to make the car an enjoyable drive.

Back in those days I removed the vacuum line from the EGR valve and inserted a golf tee. I also removed the catalytic converter and that provided an even better improvement. Constipation ain’t good for anything.

jmonroe

I removed the catalyst on my M6; it ran better and the exhaust had a wonderful rumble. I removed every emission control on the SBC in my Monte Carlo.

jmonroe1

@roadburner said:
I removed the catalyst on my M6; it ran better and the exhaust had a wonderful rumble.

Ain’t that what I said?

jmonroe

corvette

explorerx4

That guy was banned years ago.

corvette

Interesting that C&D got the 5.9 second 0-60 time in the Maverick even though they said their tester lacked the shorter gearing of the 4k Tow Package. Anyway, here's a 2021 recap:

2021 punch list (total 35):
01/05/21 dad23 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road (39 month lease)
01/23/21 explorerx4 2020 Ford Explorer XLT
02/14/21 js06gv 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 17k
02/27/21 tbirdmarco’s mom 2021 Hyundai Kona SEL AWD (lease)
03/04/21 qbrozen 2021 Chevrolet Camaro SS (lease)
03/17/21 rny421 2021 Audi E-tron (3/36k lease)
03/20/21 tifighter 2021 Tesla Model Y LR
03/23/21 laurasdada 2021 Audi A7 PHEV Premium Plus
03/27/21 breld 2021 VW Tiguan SE w/pano roof (son)
03/29/21 abacomike 2021 Genesis G90
04/03/21 carnaught 2021 BMW 330i M-sport
04/11/21 mrwhipple311 1997 BMW Z3 80k
04/18/21 graphicguy 2021 Acura TLX A-spec
04/24/21 henryn 2019 Chrysler Pacifica Touring 61k
04/28/21 breld 2021 Polestar 2 (39/39k lease)
05/21/21 henryn 2013 Ford F-150 76k
05/23/21 28firefighter 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (lease)
06/29/21 mjfloyd1 2021 Audi Q7 3.0T Prestige 7.2k
06/30/21 breld 2021 Volvo XC90 T6 R-design
07/11/21 jpp75 2022 Land Rover Defender 90 X
07/17/21 qbrozen 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (lease)
08/10/21 sb55 2021 Toyota Venza Limited
08/25/21 mjfloyd1 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe
09/08/21 breld 2021 Tesla Model Y
09/08/21 mjfloyd1 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe
09/16/21 au1994 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (lease?)
09/17/21 tifighter 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance
10/16/21 boomchek 2021 Subaru WRX
10/16/21 qbrozen 2010 Ford Escape AWD V6
10/18/21 28firefighter 2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+ (lease)
10/29/21 breld 2022 BMW m340i xdrive (scheduled 10/30)
12/03/21 mrwhipple311 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL Premium
12/06/21 qbrozen 2022 Ford Mach-E
12/21/21 au1994 2011 BMW 328
12/31/21 stickguy 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat FWD 2.0T

Did I miss anybody? If not, @xwesx guessed 35.

As you can see, @breld was busy leveling up his house game, but still managed to work in a quite restrained 5 punches. Some of you also predicted the number of @breld punches, and the winner there was @28firefighter, who was the first to predict 5 punches. Honorable mention to @carnaught for being the second to predict 5.

28firefighter

What do I win?!

stickguy

a hearty Golf clap all around.

and I told you people I was good for one this year.

jmonroe1

@corvette said:
Interesting that C&D got the 5.9 second 0-60 time in the Maverick even though they said their tester lacked the shorter gearing of the 4k Tow Package. Anyway, here's a 2021 recap:

2021 punch list (total 35):
01/05/21 dad23 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road (39 month lease)
01/23/21 explorerx4 2020 Ford Explorer XLT
02/14/21 js06gv 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 17k
02/27/21 tbirdmarco’s mom 2021 Hyundai Kona SEL AWD (lease)
03/04/21 qbrozen 2021 Chevrolet Camaro SS (lease)
03/17/21 rny421 2021 Audi E-tron (3/36k lease)
03/20/21 tifighter 2021 Tesla Model Y LR
03/23/21 laurasdada 2021 Audi A7 PHEV Premium Plus
03/27/21 breld 2021 VW Tiguan SE w/pano roof (son)
03/29/21 abacomike 2021 Genesis G90
04/03/21 carnaught 2021 BMW 330i M-sport
04/11/21 mrwhipple311 1997 BMW Z3 80k
04/18/21 graphicguy 2021 Acura TLX A-spec
04/24/21 henryn 2019 Chrysler Pacifica Touring 61k
04/28/21 breld 2021 Polestar 2 (39/39k lease)
05/21/21 henryn 2013 Ford F-150 76k
05/23/21 28firefighter 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (lease)
06/29/21 mjfloyd1 2021 Audi Q7 3.0T Prestige 7.2k
06/30/21 breld 2021 Volvo XC90 T6 R-design
07/11/21 jpp75 2022 Land Rover Defender 90 X
07/17/21 qbrozen 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (lease)
08/10/21 sb55 2021 Toyota Venza Limited
08/25/21 mjfloyd1 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe
09/08/21 breld 2021 Tesla Model Y
09/08/21 mjfloyd1 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe
09/16/21 au1994 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (lease?)
09/17/21 tifighter 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance
10/16/21 boomchek 2021 Subaru WRX
10/16/21 qbrozen 2010 Ford Escape AWD V6
10/18/21 28firefighter 2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+ (lease)
10/29/21 breld 2022 BMW m340i xdrive (scheduled 10/30)
12/03/21 mrwhipple311 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL Premium
12/06/21 qbrozen 2022 Ford Mach-E
12/21/21 au1994 2011 BMW 328
12/31/21 stickguy 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat FWD 2.0T

Did I miss anybody? If not, @xwesx guessed 35.

As you can see, @breld was busy leveling up his house game, but still managed to work in a quite restrained 5 punches. Some of you also predicted the number of @breld punches, and the winner there was @28firefighter, who was the first to predict 5 punches. Honorable mention to @carnaught for being the second to predict 5.

If @xwesx guessed right he had to be throwing darts. 😫

jmonroe

roadburner

jmonroe1 said:

@roadburner said:

I removed the catalyst on my M6; it ran better and the exhaust had a wonderful rumble.

Ain’t that what I said?

jmonroe

I think it was worse with the Euro cars; things didn't improve until Germany imposed emission standards. I recall a picture of the Munich plant from the early '80s- engines were labeled "USA" and "Normal."

nyccarguy

I’m going low this year - 30 for the group, 3 for @breld

roadburner

33 for me; 4 for @breld

fintail

MB was the same way, detuned USDM/NA market cars, to the point of not even offering the larger engine options here. As most know, this led to a thriving grey market, which led to MBUSA abiding by the real golden rule, and cozying up to corrupt politicos and regulators to buy the 25 year rule, idiocy which exists to this day.

One of my earlier car-related memories is seeing my dad in the driveway, removing emissions junk from my mom's mid-70s T-Bird. According to him, the emasculated 460 in that beast was happier when allowed to breathe more free. I don't recall him taking similar action with his Horizon, must have been tuned better.

roadburner said:

jmonroe1 said:

@roadburner said:

I removed the catalyst on my M6; it ran better and the exhaust had a wonderful rumble.

Ain’t that what I said?

jmonroe

I think it was worse with the Euro cars; things didn't improve until Germany imposed emission standards. I recall a picture of the Munich plant from the early '80s- engines were labeled "USA" and "Normal."

corvette

roadburner said:

33 for me; 4 for @breld

Sounds like you're planning on hoarding an entire fleet of M2 Comps.

au1994

33 for my guess and yes, my 4xe is a lease.

stickguy

32 and 4 for my guess.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Does anybody have a spare $26k I can borrow?

https://www.powernationtv.com/post/ford-now-offering-the-760-hp-mustang-gt500-v8-as-a-crate-engine?utm_source=drip&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Would+You+Buy+The+760-HP+Mustang+GT500+V8+As+A+Crate+Engine?

the Ford dealer had a nice silver/gray one in the showroom. MSRP only $91K. My wife said no.

Now that you can get that motor in a box you can drop it right into your Maverick and be the envy of the neighborhood.

oldfarmer50

I don’t know why but I’m intrigued by this one. 135k shouldn’t be too much on a Toyota and it has the magic transmission. Looks to be too cheap though. What am I missing?

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/troy-2005-toyota-rav4/7427415882.html

xwesx

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:

How is the Colorado clan doing? Are any of you in the path of that wild fire?

We aren’t, but I do have some friends and family who have evacuated.

Wow; a large wildfire this time of year?! The world is truly falling apart.

xwesx

stickguy said:

Pics

Looks GREAT! Bet it feels great to have it after the long wait.

corvette

oldfarmer50 said:

Looks to be too cheap though. What am I missing?

The fact that it only has one very clean looking photo plus the low price scream "scam" to me.

xwesx

tifighter said:

I know how that feels -

We're finally colder than you again. The way it should be. -15 here currently, and should slip another 15 degrees by Monday.

xwesx

jmonroe1 said:

If @xwesx guessed right he had to be throwing darts. 😫

jmonroe

That is so true, too! I went against my (better?) judgement and figured that something like a car shortage and ridiculously inflated prices were no barriers to this group's proclivity to buy cars!

xwesx

As for 2022, I think we'll bump a little this time around. Heck, I might even squeak one in with all the trouble I'm having with the Q7.

I'll go 37.

The breld number? That is an awfully large garage to fill.... 6.

Michaell

xwesx said:

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:

How is the Colorado clan doing? Are any of you in the path of that wild fire?

We aren’t, but I do have some friends and family who have evacuated.

Wow; a large wildfire this time of year?! The world is truly falling apart.

About 6000 acres. The area had wind gusts in excess of 100 MPH; a power line was blown over and started the fire.

carnaught

@corvette, I say 36, 4 for breld.

BTW, thank you for being the official record keeper/manager and doing a great job at it!

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Looks to be too cheap though. What am I missing?

The fact that it only has one very clean looking photo plus the low price scream "scam" to me.

Yeah, there you go spoiling my dreams.

Michaell

2022 predictions:

36 for the group
3 for @breld

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:

How is the Colorado clan doing? Are any of you in the path of that wild fire?

We aren’t, but I do have some friends and family who have evacuated.

Wow; a large wildfire this time of year?! The world is truly falling apart.

I guess in your neck of the woods you guys would just freeze it to death. 😀

jmonroe

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

I don’t know why but I’m intrigued by this one. 135k shouldn’t be too much on a Toyota and it has the magic transmission. Looks to be too cheap though. What am I missing?

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/troy-2005-toyota-rav4/7427415882.html

missing a few pictures and a thorough inspection? But if that is clean, it is a good looking deal. I would have snagged that if it checked out.

jmonroe1

carnaught said:

@corvette, I say 36, 4 for breld.

BTW, thank you for being the official record keeper/manager and doing a great job at it!

If we were nice guys we’d get him a gas card for his gas guzzling truck.

jmonroe

kyfdx

@corvette
I didn't guess, last year?

In that case, I won't guess this year, either.

cdnpinhead

xwesx said:

The world is truly falling apart.

This is most certainly true.

corvette

kyfdx said:

@corvette
I didn't guess, last year?
In that case, I won't guess this year, either.

Doesn't look like it. I don't guess, either, but I will put out there that I think the guesses of 3-4 for @breld wildly underestimate him.

carnaught said:

BTW, thank you for being the official record keeper/manager and doing a great job at it!

Unofficial, lol, I'm not on the Edmunds payroll! And thanks, I try, but I do miss a few every now and then.

fintail

Has been for years.

2022 promises to be much better:

cdnpinhead said:

xwesx said:

The world is truly falling apart.

This is most certainly true.

stickguy

hey, people are probably full of protein. waste not, want not.

qbrozen

Thanks for keeping track. Now I know I had 4 punches for ‘21. Lol. Pretty sure that is a banner year. I think ‘22 will be even bigger, especially considering I have 4 on order already.

qbrozen

Feels like something we should be triple-dog-daring each other to buy.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxY1Ad18/1994-bentley-brooklands

stickguy

I watched enough Car Wizard videos working on these to know better than fall for that low price.

tjc78

42

I should have one of those.

benjaminh

29/2. I'm guessing low because of the continuing low supply and high prices.

oldfarmer50

fintail said:

Has been for years.

2022 promises to be much better:

cdnpinhead said:

xwesx said:

The world is truly falling apart.

This is most certainly true.

Wow, I’d forgotten that 2022 was the dystopian future in that film.

When I first saw that movie in the theaters I thought Charlton Heston was old compared to me but now I’m a contemporary of Edward G. Robinson.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Feels like something we should be triple-dog-daring each other to buy.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxY1Ad18/1994-bentley-brooklands

Didn’t those come from the factory broken? Hoovie suffered with some of those as I recall.

ab348

I really enjoy Harry Metcalfe's channel on YouTube, Harry's Garage. Spent part of last night catching up on a number of his videos from the last year. If you are so inclined, check out his two multi-part Jaguar adventures, with the Project 8 sedan but especially his jaunt to France in the P7. That one turned into quite the adventure near the end. The scenery and settings in those are beautiful too.

But what really surprised me was his review of the Civic Type R "Sportline", which is sold in the UK as a more "adult" version of the Type R with scaled-back styling cues but the same powertrain and suspension. Sounds appealing, but Harry absolutely destroyed the styling job. Once he got behind the wheel though, he absolutely loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFzE_3rPEDo

explorerx4

Edward G Robinson in Soylent Green, the last man who could read.

tjc78

@benjaminh said:
29/2. I'm guessing low because of the continuing low supply and high prices.

Nothing stops this group!

fintail

Those old Bentleys and their Rolls-Royce relatives have always attracted me, but I know better - purchase price is just the first payment. They have endless presence, but I'd probably be more likely to buy that low mileage 600 SEL I posted in the project car thread (car apparently sold).

I'll be entering some kind punch this spring, either buying the wagon or flipping it into something else.

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

Feels like something we should be triple-dog-daring each other to buy.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxY1Ad18/1994-bentley-brooklands

Looks like somebody tried to mod up something to look like a Genny to me. They couldn’t even get the badge size right.

jmonroe

28firefighter

Put me in for 37 and 4 for breld. I’m also going to guess 8 for Qbrozen.