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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,429

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    pensfan83 said:

    The first rule of owning a ZHP is that you do not discuss the sale of the ZHP publicly. Second rule is that you must sell to a poster in this thread.

    I call dibs after @Michaell
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502

    @28firefighter said:
    Can't thank @breld enough for making this such a smooth transaction - probably the easiest private sale I've ever done, in person or online. And I'm happy that it is going to a great home for now!****

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,965

    @jmonroe1 said:
    Sounds more like work to me.

    jmonroe

    Says the “retired” guy who flips houses.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,965

    @breld
    Nice buy. Great looking car and color.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,429
    qbrozen said:

    I feel left out

    With that signature line?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    @Michaell said:
    With that signature line?

    None of it is from the inner circle. Once again, last picked at dodgeball.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    Looking back only 3 years, though. So this is short-term reliability. I’d call it initial quality, personally.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    edited April 2022

    @corvette said:
    I call dibs after @Michaell

    Well, ZHPs tend to migrate east so you're in luck ;)

    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,919

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    breld said:
    Yes. Especially since there are barely any out there with less than 100K miles. A lot have between 180 & 220K miles. They have also been "modded" to death.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    Trip to Myrtle in the Jeep wasn’t bad. I wound up not even needing the hitch platform. For once, the wife packed minimally.

    Nobody complained, nobody got carsick. Well, maybe the dogs complained a little. Fuel mileage is pretty horrific. Started out with the average reading over 26 and now we are at 20. So we obviously have been well below 20 for the trip. Sadly, I found I have no reasonable access to an outlet in the garage here. The one hooked to my meter is too far for the cable to reach. I could get an HD 50’ extension, but that would cost more than I’d save while here.

    Speaking of fuel, we went to fill up today. Found ourselves bear a costco station. Lines were 10 deep at best. I was not doing that. Went around the corner and found the first station with no lines and only 5 cents more per gallon. So I coughed up the mighty 75 cents to save myself a half hour and the fuel of idling in line. What the heck are people thinking? Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a dime.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,332
    tjc78 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    Sounds more like work to me.

    jmonroe

    Says the “retired” guy who flips houses.


    Now that we’ve started work on flip #4, I’ve decided to take on more of an executive role in our biz. I don’t do any of the heavy lifting. I just directed the young guys (friends of Grandson #1) doing the demo work how to go about doing that and how to pack the dumpster to make the best use of the space. I never thought an index finger could get so sore from just pointing. :o

    jmonroe
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,207
    mjfloyd1 said:
    Funny that Encore got picked since it’s twin Traxx gets roasted in the press.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    qbrozen said:

    Trip to Myrtle in the Jeep wasn’t bad. I wound up not even needing the hitch platform. For once, the wife packed minimally.

    Nobody complained, nobody got carsick. Well, maybe the dogs complained a little. Fuel mileage is pretty horrific. Started out with the average reading over 26 and now we are at 20. So we obviously have been well below 20 for the trip. Sadly, I found I have no reasonable access to an outlet in the garage here. The one hooked to my meter is too far for the cable to reach. I could get an HD 50’ extension, but that would cost more than I’d save while here.

    Speaking of fuel, we went to fill up today. Found ourselves bear a costco station. Lines were 10 deep at best. I was not doing that. Went around the corner and found the first station with no lines and only 5 cents more per gallon. So I coughed up the mighty 75 cents to save myself a half hour and the fuel of idling in line. What the heck are people thinking? Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a dime.

    I have observed similar behavior myself, and it always amazes me. Some people are just obsessed with getting the lowest possible price.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234

    @henryn said:
    I have observed similar behavior myself, and it always amazes me. Some people are just obsessed with getting the lowest possible price.

    If it was only a nickel per gallon difference I definitely wouldn’t waste the time! I pick my spots for getting gas at Costco, and around here I’m usually saving 50-60 cents a gallon.

    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2021 VW TIguan SE 4Motion
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @qbrozen,
    I know they are cheap but those rooftop bags are not very aerodynamic.
    One time one of my BIL's met his neighbor in Florida and they decided to drive back together.
    They both had V8 4WD Explorers, but my BIL had a hard rooftop box and the neighbor a soft one.
    The neighbor always had to stop to fill up first and took 5 more gallons of gas at each stop.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,332
    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:

    Trip to Myrtle in the Jeep wasn’t bad. I wound up not even needing the hitch platform. For once, the wife packed minimally.

    Nobody complained, nobody got carsick. Well, maybe the dogs complained a little. Fuel mileage is pretty horrific. Started out with the average reading over 26 and now we are at 20. So we obviously have been well below 20 for the trip. Sadly, I found I have no reasonable access to an outlet in the garage here. The one hooked to my meter is too far for the cable to reach. I could get an HD 50’ extension, but that would cost more than I’d save while here.

    Speaking of fuel, we went to fill up today. Found ourselves bear a costco station. Lines were 10 deep at best. I was not doing that. Went around the corner and found the first station with no lines and only 5 cents more per gallon. So I coughed up the mighty 75 cents to save myself a half hour and the fuel of idling in line. What the heck are people thinking? Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a dime.

    I have observed similar behavior myself, and it always amazes me. Some people are just obsessed with getting the lowest possible price.
    I’ll never understand how people will drive to the other end of the county to save 2 cents on a gallon of gas.

    I don’t belong to Costco because it’s at least 10 miles from me but I do belong to Sam’s that is less than 4 miles from me. Anytime I see the sign for gas as I enter the Sam’s store it’s never more than 3 cents less per gallon than the Marathon station I use that is almost always on my return path when going home which NEVER has a line to get gas. And I know Marathon is top tier gas, not sure about Sam’s. Maybe I’m more affluent than I give myself credit for.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,549
    edited April 2022
    My local Costco in is selling regular at $3.81, while the Thornton's gas station a few blocks away is at 4.07. Our CR-V only takes a little more than 11 gallons in a typical fill-up, but that's still $3 per tank. The Costco card that you have to use anyway saves an additional 4%, so we save about $4.60 per tank at current prices. I haven't actually calculated it before now, but that's more than I thought. We fill that car up about 40 times a year, which means a savings of about $180 a year. Especially with inflation as it is every little bit helps.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688

    Can't thank @breld enough for making this such a smooth transaction - probably the easiest private sale I've ever done, in person or online. And I'm happy that it is going to a great home!

    For a minute or two, anyway. :p
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,181
    Picking the time to go to Costco is key; Friday nights worked well for me. Rarely a long wait (sometimes none), and now with the PHEV, no gas burning if I have to wait. But, Costco is now the old boss. BJs or GasBuddy guidance, meet the new boss.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Bad news for welders-

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,207
    jmonroe1 said:

    henryn said:

    qbrozen said:

    Trip to Myrtle in the Jeep wasn’t bad. I wound up not even needing the hitch platform. For once, the wife packed minimally.

    Nobody complained, nobody got carsick. Well, maybe the dogs complained a little. Fuel mileage is pretty horrific. Started out with the average reading over 26 and now we are at 20. So we obviously have been well below 20 for the trip. Sadly, I found I have no reasonable access to an outlet in the garage here. The one hooked to my meter is too far for the cable to reach. I could get an HD 50’ extension, but that would cost more than I’d save while here.

    Speaking of fuel, we went to fill up today. Found ourselves bear a costco station. Lines were 10 deep at best. I was not doing that. Went around the corner and found the first station with no lines and only 5 cents more per gallon. So I coughed up the mighty 75 cents to save myself a half hour and the fuel of idling in line. What the heck are people thinking? Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a dime.

    I have observed similar behavior myself, and it always amazes me. Some people are just obsessed with getting the lowest possible price.
    I’ll never understand how people will drive to the other end of the county to save 2 cents on a gallon of gas.

    I don’t belong to Costco because it’s at least 10 miles from me but I do belong to Sam’s that is less than 4 miles from me. Anytime I see the sign for gas as I enter the Sam’s store it’s never more than 3 cents less per gallon than the Marathon station I use that is almost always on my return path when going home which NEVER has a line to get gas. And I know Marathon is top tier gas, not sure about Sam’s. Maybe I’m more affluent than I give myself credit for.

    jmonroe
    I look at the gas price app and stop at one station or the other as I’m running errands. Most time it works out that I’ll be passing the less expensive station and I’ll stop.

    Today however, I was looking at the app and a station a good 20 miles away had PUG for about 40 cents less. Fortunately, the one car that requires premium is overdue for a joy ride.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,705
    tifighter said:

    Bad news for welders-

    They are robots anyway.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,289
    au1994 said:

    tifighter said:

    Bad news for welders-

    They are robots anyway.
    Elon better watch out. I wouldn't want to have a few hundred robot welders gunning for me. :D

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    Sometimes going for cheaper gas gives you a good excuse to drive a fun car some extra miles.

    Also, it is to spite the gouging owner of the more local gas station.

    Similar to driving 100-120 miles to save $200-$400 bucks on an automobile at a dealership in LA when the ones in San Diego think there's an oligopoly.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    edited April 2022
    ab348 said:

    Elon better watch out. I wouldn't want to have a few hundred robot welders gunning for me. :D

    He's not worried. Also, on a completely unrelated note, he says to wish everyone a happy April 20. B)
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,549
    edited April 2022
    The names VW uses from my pov don't help US sales. I.D. Buzz? Buzz sort of equals Bus? I.D.4? What does the 4 stand for? I.D.=identification? Some of their other names like Arteon also seem puzzling to me.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,814
    benjaminh said:

    The names VW uses from my pov don't help US sales. I.D. Buzz? Buzz sort of equals Bus? I.D.4? What does the 4 stand for? I.D.=identification? Some of their other names like Arteon also seem puzzling to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5lDAX_3474

    All their EVs use the ID designation: Intelligent Design

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Picked up brand new Mitsubishi's at the local dealer yesterday and the day before, it was Mazda CX-5's, so we are buying new vehicles when we can. Last couple of weeks, tractor trailers were dropping of Ford Escape's, Edge's & Mustang convertibles. Our sold lot is slowly emptying out, a good thing. Plenty of folks renting so now, just waiting on the chip shortage to end but no one has a real handle on when that might happen.
    Worked with other groups these last couple of days as our lead has called out twice already. Gotta a strong feeling that his days with us are numbered as he was taking calls from jobs he found on Indeed.com last week. But do get it as he's a young kid, under 40, working a couple part time gigs and now working over 40 hours combined. Only trouble is he gets no health benefits as he's a part timer at both gigs. Sure, he's pretty healthy but, we all need health insurance. And not being in a committed relationship currently means he can stay the course. But after hearing bits & pieces of his phones calls last week, think his days with us are truly numbered. But since our fourth driver in our team left last month, figured it's just a matter of time till we see some more changes at work. So, we'll just see what happens & luckily, all the other folks are pretty nice people so I'm not worried about changing work teams. Going forward though, not going to be so open about my private life as sometimes, it can come back to bite ya. Best to tell folks as little as possible!

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,919
    For VW’s EVs I prefer the names over the numerical designations. Not saying they’re the best names, but I liked the ID Crozz concept name over ID.4. And as quirky as it is, I don’t think the ID.Buzz should turn into something as non descriptive as ID.5.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    You’re now a Buckeye! Welcome!

    Back from adventures in Ohio.

    Currently we live in a five-four-and a door center hall colonial, but we are moving to Ohio to be closer to the grandkids.
    New house under construction is basically a 3-2 ranch with a loft area that has an additional bedroom and full bath.

    While we were their we picked out the granite, carpeting and flooring. So many choices. Made my head spin.

    Towed a one way U-Haul trailer out there and put the contents in some rental storage, also U-Haul.
    If I tow again, I'm going to get a tow bar with a 4 inch drop instead of the 2 inch drop I have now.
    Trailer was tipped back even when loaded.
    Also, some tow bar insulators to quiet the hitch, especially when empty.
    Explorer, 4 cyl turbo, towed great. Kept speed to 65. got about 18 MPG in Tow/Haul mode.
    Adaptive cruise is really great for towing.
    When the trailer was hooked up, BLIS, rear view camera, reverse sensors and cross traffic alert were all automatically disabled. It does let you 'save' the trailer. Not sure what that does.
    Brought back a bunch of wardrobe and small and medium boxes, filled just about the whole cargo area.
    Wasn't able to use the rear view mirror the whole trip there and back. :D

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,814

    You’re now a Buckeye! Welcome!

    I think you can get a shot for that...

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @graphicguy,
    I'm getting there, will be a few more months before we actually move, estimated mid July.
    Will probably make another trip or 2 out there before then.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,332

    You’re now a Buckeye! Welcome!

    Back from adventures in Ohio.

    Currently we live in a five-four-and a door center hall colonial, but we are moving to Ohio to be closer to the grandkids.
    New house under construction is basically a 3-2 ranch with a loft area that has an additional bedroom and full bath.

    While we were their we picked out the granite, carpeting and flooring. So many choices. Made my head spin.

    Towed a one way U-Haul trailer out there and put the contents in some rental storage, also U-Haul.
    If I tow again, I'm going to get a tow bar with a 4 inch drop instead of the 2 inch drop I have now.
    Trailer was tipped back even when loaded.
    Also, some tow bar insulators to quiet the hitch, especially when empty.
    Explorer, 4 cyl turbo, towed great. Kept speed to 65. got about 18 MPG in Tow/Haul mode.
    Adaptive cruise is really great for towing.
    When the trailer was hooked up, BLIS, rear view camera, reverse sensors and cross traffic alert were all automatically disabled. It does let you 'save' the trailer. Not sure what that does.
    Brought back a bunch of wardrobe and small and medium boxes, filled just about the whole cargo area.
    Wasn't able to use the rear view mirror the whole trip there and back. :D

    I’d say he’s a tax dodger. He’s already mentioned how he’ll be saving on taxes compared to the rich folks in Connecticut. Maybe being a tax dodger is the first step towards tax cheating. Would be nice to have a little company in here. :)

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @jmonroe1 said:
    I’d say he’s a tax dodger. He’s already mentioned how he’ll be saving on taxes compared to the rich folks in Connecticut. Maybe being a tax dodger is the first step towards tax cheating. Would be nice to have a little company in here. :)

    jmonroe

    My wife is a CPA / MBA so I’m out

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,549
    edited April 2022
    Edmunds gives a full test to this $170k car and likes it, although the real world highway range is 505 rather than the advertised 520.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj9-fkJJH70
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,705
    Said in my best Chandler Bing voice “could that car BE any shinier?”

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,829
    au1994 said:

    Said in my best Chandler Bing voice “could that car BE any shinier?”

    Actually, yes, it can. We had a run of spring here over the last few weeks and it is covered in pollen (by my standards) just from when the garage was opened pulling the Tesla in and out.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,705

    au1994 said:

    Said in my best Chandler Bing voice “could that car BE any shinier?”

    Actually, yes, it can. We had a run of spring here over the last few weeks and it is covered in pollen (by my standards) just from when the garage was opened pulling the Tesla in and out.
    Getting to the end of the season here in GA. I just don’t even bother to wash for about 4-6 weeks and it kills me.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,289
    Another big recall, this time from Ford, for 2021 pickup wiper arms, apparently every single one of them:

    https://www.cars.com/articles/unarmed-and-dangerous-ford-lincoln-recall-653000-vehicles-for-windshield-wipers-449384/

    Sounds like cost-cutting that went too far.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

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