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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    How does that settle out economically? When I quit my corporate job to become a farmer the finances were shaky and I worried for a long time if I would be able to feed my family.

    Would you just get another job in your field or strike out in your own business?

    Well, if you really want the details…
    The initial thinking is that I could substitute teach twice a week, pick up 15-20 hrs freelance editing, and only have a $3500/mo gap to make up with cars. This is to equal current salary plus rent on biz and home equity loan payment.

    Why freelance in the area I’m wanting to leave? Eh, mostly because no meetings, no teams interactions, and pick when I put in the hours. Subbing is probably dumb given the monetary reward. I mean, about 3 hrs of freelance equals 2 days of subbing. But I enjoy it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,507
    edited November 2022
    @qbrozen Have you factored in health insurance? Or, maybe your wife has a company plan?

    Or, quiet quitting?

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    kyfdx said:

    @qbrozen Have you factored in health insurance? Or, maybe your wife has a company plan?

    Or, quiet quitting?

    Quiet quitting usually leads to quiet firing.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,507
    ab348 said:

    kyfdx said:

    @qbrozen Have you factored in health insurance? Or, maybe your wife has a company plan?

    Or, quiet quitting?

    Quiet quitting usually leads to quiet firing.
    Exactly... seems like that's the plan

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428

    Gorgeous 6 series. Is that the model that’s like an X5 with the utility part chopped off?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    Wife has the health insurance for us.

    I’ve thought about quiet quitting but my work ethic keeps getting in the way. These people didn’t do anything wrong to me so I do feel some obligation.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,507
    qbrozen said:

    Wife has the health insurance for us.

    I’ve thought about quiet quitting but my work ethic keeps getting in the way. These people didn’t do anything wrong to me so I do feel some obligation.

    Maybe just push back more on the stuff you don't like, to see if it helps your situation? Assuming you are okay with quitting, if it doesn't work out.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,997

    @qbrozen
    I feel for you. Being unhappy at work is tough. I think I mentioned we just had a pretty large “reorganization” and while I’m happy that I was retained the crap show I inherited has me pretty frustrated. Luckily my right hand guy can run the old stuff and allow me to focus on new department. Every day this week a new screw up was found. Then I dig into the financials and every project is pretty over budget. Around 4:00 last night I just got up and called it a day. It’s been a rough two weeks!

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,592
    edited November 2022
    I’m 63 and would love to retire. With a daughter in college and it appears 3 more years to go and the cost of health insurance, I will keep working! For those of you who have younger kids, if you haven’t done so, fund a 529. It has enabled us to pay college tuition without having to take out an education loan. I anticipate replacing the TL as well. So far at 174k it runs and drives well but one day..just washed an hour ago.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    wife was mentioning today when we were out cleaning the shelves at 3 separate supermarkets that she is really burned out and tired of her job. we chatted about a possible move to a different group that would be less stressful, but she is very bad about asking for things. so who knows.

    one of us would keep working. With that one being me, for some income (though would really miss hers) and the health insurance. Though her job is much more secure.

    I figure 2 more years should be doable. bank some cash to live on before SS and Medicare kicks in (if they still exist of course) and by then, everything we currently own (house and cars) would be paid off. so if we can resist buying anything new, would be living very cheap cashflow wise!

    though we were discussing maybe moving in a couple of years, depending on what we decide about where we really want to be (location) longer term in this general area. at least the next move will be much, much easier since we already did the heavy lifting purging stuff!

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,314
    @breld - I like that 640i. The price seems not to be unreasonable, either. That's, what, about half of its new MSRP?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899
    corvette said:

    @breld - I like that 640i. The price seems not to be unreasonable, either. That's, what, about half of its new MSRP?

    We figured about 60%

    Yes, I met up with @breld and I test drove the 640. Wow - what a nice car. Fast, quiet, very well equipped (H/K stereo, adaptive cruise, heads up display, all the bells and whistles). And, not something you see too often, unlike 5-series or X3s. I could live with it even if it was silver over black.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    well, this trip was a bust. The info provided contradicted what I was previously told. I'll give more details maybe tomorrow when I'm sitting watching football. I've got an email out to the owner of the company I got in bed with. Have a feeling I'll be making some credit card disputes in the very near future. As I sat there in the conference room, I pondered the potential video series I could make. Will have to give it some thought. I'm not much of a camera person. Or, more accurately, not a camera person AT ALL. But maybe it would be therapeutic.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356
    qbrozen said:

    well, this trip was a bust. The info provided contradicted what I was previously told. I'll give more details maybe tomorrow when I'm sitting watching football. I've got an email out to the owner of the company I got in bed with. Have a feeling I'll be making some credit card disputes in the very near future. As I sat there in the conference room, I pondered the potential video series I could make. Will have to give it some thought. I'm not much of a camera person. Or, more accurately, not a camera person AT ALL. But maybe it would be therapeutic.

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    Damn, that bites.

    Like you said, maybe tomorrow when you cool off and have the time, we’d like to hear the whole story.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    sounds more like a pyramid scheme hustle, or one of those come ons for a timeshare pitch.

    but better to find out now if you need to bail.

    maybe need to find a small local lot where the owner wants out and you can just buy it from him.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,696
    Interesting mix of conversation and events to start the holiday week!

    I can definitely commiserate on the job motivation/situation. I've been struggling with that for a couple years now, too. I actually applied for a different role in the organization just to (hopefully) shake things up a bit and reengage. I've already decided to stick with it until retirement (under nine years now), so I just need to feel some drive behind what I'm doing again.

    That 640 is a beauty, Michael! I guess it is a nice thing that it's NOT silver/black, but so much better than that! Are you seriously considering making a move on it?

    Very sorry about the disappointing outcome to your seminar, Q. With time, this venture of yours will come together.

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    qbrozen said:

    well, this trip was a bust. The info provided contradicted what I was previously told. I'll give more details maybe tomorrow when I'm sitting watching football. I've got an email out to the owner of the company I got in bed with. Have a feeling I'll be making some credit card disputes in the very near future. As I sat there in the conference room, I pondered the potential video series I could make. Will have to give it some thought. I'm not much of a camera person. Or, more accurately, not a camera person AT ALL. But maybe it would be therapeutic.

    You have my sympathies. The world is full of scams, and con men, liars, grifters abound. Apparently a lot of people still fall for it, as otherwise they wouldn't exist.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899
    xwesx said:

    Interesting mix of conversation and events to start the holiday week!

    I can definitely commiserate on the job motivation/situation. I've been struggling with that for a couple years now, too. I actually applied for a different role in the organization just to (hopefully) shake things up a bit and reengage. I've already decided to stick with it until retirement (under nine years now), so I just need to feel some drive behind what I'm doing again.

    That 640 is a beauty, Michael! I guess it is a nice thing that it's NOT silver/black, but so much better than that! Are you seriously considering making a move on it?

    Very sorry about the disappointing outcome to your seminar, Q. With time, this venture of yours will come together.

    I’m still waiting for clarity on my job situation. I would love to trade in the Outback for it; not sure the wife would agree.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,513

    @qbrozen said:
    well, this trip was a bust. The info provided contradicted what I was previously told. I'll give more details maybe tomorrow when I'm sitting watching football. I've got an email out to the owner of the company I got in bed with. Have a feeling I'll be making some credit card disputes in the very near future. As I sat there in the conference room, I pondered the potential video series I could make. Will have to give it some thought. I'm not much of a camera person. Or, more accurately, not a camera person AT ALL. But maybe it would be therapeutic.

    Ugh! That stinks you wasted your time and money.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    Way outside my price range, but I'm in love.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899

    Way outside my price range, but I'm in love.

    Forgive my asking, but what is your price range?

    Saw 2 M2's today - one a 2018, the other a 2021. The 2021 is the same color as the one @tifighter recently picked up, and @breld was almost drooling over it.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356

    Way outside my price range, but I'm in love.

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    If we weren’t in these crazy used car prices times, what do you think this car would sell for? Maybe a better question would be how much did the dealer pay for it?

    To lose only 5 grand on a 3 year old car is nuts. Back in the day it would lose twice that before you bounced it over the dealers new car lot curb.

    Nice work if you can get it. Nice car though.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    stickguy said:

    sounds more like a pyramid scheme hustle, or one of those come ons for a timeshare pitch.

    but better to find out now if you need to bail.

    maybe need to find a small local lot where the owner wants out and you can just buy it from him.

    Around here there are many small lots. I guess it’s because they are close to the Manheim auction. There used to be a couple of drivers who were retired from the auto business and now rented out their lots to others. Renting from a previously established owner might be a way to meet all the regulatory requirements.

    Could a commercial real estate agent be someone to help locate a place?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    edited November 2022
    Michaell said:

    Way outside my price range, but I'm in love.

    Forgive my asking, but what is your price range?

    Saw 2 M2's today - one a 2018, the other a 2021. The 2021 is the same color as the one @tifighter recently picked up, and @breld was almost drooling over it.
    I decided to draw the line at $55k in light of all the economic craziness. :'(

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356

    Michaell said:

    Way outside my price range, but I'm in love.

    Forgive my asking, but what is your price range?

    Saw 2 M2's today - one a 2018, the other a 2021. The 2021 is the same color as the one @tifighter recently picked up, and @breld was almost drooling over it.
    I decided to draw the line at $55k in light of all the economic craziness. :'(
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    C’mon man, you can’t let 20 grand stop you when you’re in love. B)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    edited November 2022

    Like my wife said today, we can’t take it with us

    Of course that was about a $100 8’ Christmas tree.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    edited November 2022

    Saw a gaudy BMW today. An x4 M in a lime yellow/green. Was not a good color on that car.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356
    stickguy said:

    Like my wife said today, we can’t take it with us

    Of course that was about a $100 8’ Christmas tree.

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    Yeah but the principle is the same. It goes without saying that the price goes up when talking about a small rocket on 4 wheels.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428

    I love the colors on that m4. But those rubber band tires give me heart failure.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356
    stickguy said:

    Saw a gaudy BMW today. An x4 M in a lime yellow/green. Was not a good color on that car.

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    If I’m envisioning the same color you described that wouldn’t be my color choice either. But, that type of car/color combo is purchased a lot of times for the “hey, look at me” thing. It’s bound to get heads turning and sometimes more than once per person.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    that is a diecast model, but same color. looks a lot brighter in person.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356
    stickguy said:

    that is a diecast model, but same color. looks a lot brighter in person.

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    That’s what I thought. The humane thing to do would be for BMW to issue a warning like…”for safe viewing sun glasses are recommended”.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Around here there are many small lots. I guess it’s because they are close to the Manheim auction. There used to be a couple of drivers who were retired from the auto business and now rented out their lots to others. Renting from a previously established owner might be a way to meet all the regulatory requirements.

    Could a commercial real estate agent be someone to help locate a place?

    Been through a few agents already. They seem to give up when faced with the same challenges I’ve been facing for the past 6 mos.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    My BMW dealer took in an interesting car from BMW Corporate- a 330e M Sport. RWD with the Dynamic Handling Package, which gets you the Adaptive M Suspension, M Sport brakes, 19" wheels, and Variable Sport Steering. No HK, but a Bavsound speaker set can fix that. It's the most practical car I've looked at, but I'm afraid I'd tire of it sooner than later.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,997

    @roadburner said:
    My BMW dealer took in an interesting car from BMW Corporate- a 330e M Sport. RWD with the Dynamic Handling Package, which gets you the Adaptive M Suspension, M Sport brakes, 19" wheels, and Variable Sport Steering. No HK, but a Bavsound speaker set can fix that. It's the most practical car I've looked at, but I'm afraid I'd tire of it sooner than later.

    5.8 seconds to 60. You’ll be bored in a week.

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  • greg128greg128 Member Posts: 546
    edited November 2022
    I had that color on one of these. A 1974 "Love Bug" which also came in bright orange



  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    Matches a beetle better. And the 70s.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351

    @tjc78 said:

    @roadburner said:
    My BMW dealer took in an interesting car from BMW Corporate- a 330e M Sport. RWD with the Dynamic Handling Package, which gets you the Adaptive M Suspension, M Sport brakes, 19" wheels, and Variable Sport Steering. No HK, but a Bavsound speaker set can fix that. It's the most practical car I've looked at, but I'm afraid I'd tire of it sooner than later.

    5.8 seconds to 60. You’ll be bored in a week.

    Motor Trend managed a 5.0s 0-60, but even so it’s hardly a rocket ship.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,592
    Its kind of ironic the quickest car in our household is the TL my daughter drives and I have the slowest. Something is wrong here.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,356
    sda said:

    Its kind of ironic the quickest car in our household is the TL my daughter drives and I have the slowest. Something is wrong here.

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    Well, just don’t ask any of the women in your house about that because all women will blame a man for stuff like that.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,997

    @sda said:
    Its kind of ironic the quickest car in our household is the TL my daughter drives and I have the slowest. Something is wrong here.

    My wife’s XC and the truck are pretty much identical. Depends where you look but overall both are mid 6 seconds or so.

    In both cases plenty fast for the type of vehicle.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    the RDX is probably a little quicker in a drag race (AWD helps a little) but real world driving (as in, we don't drag race) they feel comparable and both are more than quick enough.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    Yesterday my dealer took in a Dravit Gray M340i. RWD but no Cooling and HP Tire Package or laser headlamps. I'm coming around to the view that I heard one of the guys on Throttle House say. The M340i is a lot faster than a 330i, but it doesn't feel significantly more special than the 330i.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,592

    I bet this is a fun ride so long as there is easy access to a gas station.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    @sda said:
    I bet this is a fun ride so long as there is easy access to a gas station.

    I want the Durango version. Very much.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,513

    @sda - I’m still amazed at how well that generation TL has held up. Still looks great!

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,713
    Here’s a weird and concerning one…

    Saturday we went to a college football game, my screen name should give you a hint as to which one.😀. The 2 hour drive down and back in the 4xe are uneventful. I find the Jeep comfortable but it is noisy particularly for the backseat passenger. Successfully navigate all of the Atlanta traffic and construction mess and we get home fine.

    Sunday I get up to run some errands and the Jeep is dead, dead, dead. Those that have one will know, but my screen near the speedo lit up with its usual message and the infotainment screen woke up but there is zero action when I press the start button. I made sure it was in park and even tried to put it into neutral and the shifter wouldn’t move.

    Under the hood I go and straight to the fuse box. I check a few of the usual suspect (starter, ECM, etc) fuses and they are all seated and in working order. Then I notice 2 large ones that have come unseated and viola, problem solved.

    It does scare me a bit that if these popped out and bricked the Jeep, what would have happened if it did this while moving in interstate traffic? It was locked up. Steering absolutely would not move, no shifter.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,513
    au1994 said:

    Here’s a weird and concerning one…

    Saturday we went to a college football game, my screen name should give you a hint as to which one.😀. The 2 hour drive down and back in the 4xe are uneventful. I find the Jeep comfortable but it is noisy particularly for the backseat passenger. Successfully navigate all of the Atlanta traffic and construction mess and we get home fine.

    Sunday I get up to run some errands and the Jeep is dead, dead, dead. Those that have one will know, but my screen near the speedo lit up with its usual message and the infotainment screen woke up but there is zero action when I press the start button. I made sure it was in park and even tried to put it into neutral and the shifter wouldn’t move.

    Under the hood I go and straight to the fuse box. I check a few of the usual suspect (starter, ECM, etc) fuses and they are all seated and in working order. Then I notice 2 large ones that have come unseated and viola, problem solved.

    It does scare me a bit that if these popped out and bricked the Jeep, what would have happened if it did this while moving in interstate traffic? It was locked up. Steering absolutely would not move, no shifter.

    I LOVE my 4Xe, but have ZERO desire to own it for 1 mile outside of the warranty period.

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