Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen

stickguy said:

qbrozen said:

Picked up the Alto Works today. Still learning. Thought I'd be in and out of there and home by 1pm. Nothing but paperwork roadblocks. Didn't get home till 5. I'm exhausted.
And I'm disappointed. Went back and checked the auction and it is my bad. The sheet does indeed point out it needs repainting on most surfaces. The person who sent the English translation left that out, however. This one is going to take some thought. I'll probably lose money on it.

risks of the business I guess. At least if you pay by the S.F., it will be really cheap to paint! Or wrap it.

I think this is a neat car. 5 speed I assume? If it had the steering wheel where it belonged could be fun toy. and would definitely fit in my garage!

yes, it is a stick. A very very loose stick and extremely touchy clutch. Gonna have to see if I can adjust it so it at least doesn't grab 1 inch off the floor. Gotta wonder why the stick is so floppy with just 40k'ish miles. Maybe it came that way. I have no way of knowing.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

Picked up the Alto Works today. Still learning. Thought I'd be in and out of there and home by 1pm. Nothing but paperwork roadblocks. Didn't get home till 5. I'm exhausted.
And I'm disappointed. Went back and checked the auction and it is my bad. The sheet does indeed point out it needs repainting on most surfaces. The person who sent the English translation left that out, however. This one is going to take some thought. I'll probably lose money on it.

Break out the rattle cans! It's so small, you'll probably only need four per coat.....

xwesx

stickguy said:

Cars and Bids is really stretching the criteria these days. This IMO does not belong there. But interesting to see one in real world bidding. Up to about $4,200 more than sticker (before any auction fee). I think you can find some from a dealer at a lower markup now. I could have some good equity if my Hybrid ever actually shows up! I wonder what my ecoboost Lariat would fetch?

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rGN6Z7Q2/2022-ford-maverick-xlt

this is interesting. My wife gave me the OK (well, the "you are going to do what you want anyway") to get a convertible for cruising around the back country roads. Just not sure she was expecting something like this! Nice version, with a more rational engine (a 351 smallblock instead of a crazy HP 427 big block).

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9ekDwVg6/2007-superformance-mark-iii

Aside from you probably not fitting, I think you should get it!

sda

We were lucky to get 11mpg from dad’s 76 GMC Sierra 15 full time 4wd. It was a long bed, nothing fancy, no a/c, only ps, pb, auto, 350 4bbl. Your Ram is a luxury truck, so refined, powerful, wonderful to drive and gets so much better mpg than trucks before it. The GMC was a good truck, kind of fun to drive, not quick, noisy, rough ride and clumsy handling.

stickguy

xwesx said:

stickguy said:

Cars and Bids is really stretching the criteria these days. This IMO does not belong there. But interesting to see one in real world bidding. Up to about $4,200 more than sticker (before any auction fee). I think you can find some from a dealer at a lower markup now. I could have some good equity if my Hybrid ever actually shows up! I wonder what my ecoboost Lariat would fetch?

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rGN6Z7Q2/2022-ford-maverick-xlt

this is interesting. My wife gave me the OK (well, the "you are going to do what you want anyway") to get a convertible for cruising around the back country roads. Just not sure she was expecting something like this! Nice version, with a more rational engine (a 351 smallblock instead of a crazy HP 427 big block).

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9ekDwVg6/2007-superformance-mark-iii

Aside from you probably not fitting, I think you should get it!

oh, I fit fine. it's getting in and out that is an issue.

tjc78

@sda said:
We were lucky to get 11mpg from dad’s 76 GMC Sierra 15 full time 4wd. It was a long bed, nothing fancy, no a/c, only ps, pb, auto, 350 4bbl. Your Ram is a luxury truck, so refined, powerful, wonderful to drive and gets so much better mpg than trucks before it. The GMC was a good truck, kind of fun to drive, not quick, noisy, rough ride and clumsy handling.

Yeah I’m not complaining, I knew what I was getting into. Also for the trip I averaged 68 MPH with some city driving on either end. I’m sure the sustained 80+ did not do any favors.

I really love the truck. I’ve actually been driving it a lot the last few weeks and just can’t seem to find a flaw.

tjc78

@qbrozen said:
I used up a full tank of diesel going to Baltimore and back today. OUCH.

Yeah that hurts. Still can’t believe it is $6/ gallon

I was taking to some colleagues yesterday from Dallas and Houston. RUG is under $3 there

explorerx4

@tjc78,
I went on Fuelly and checked the reported mileage for crewcab pickups.
Ram with 5.7 eTorque just over 16
Chevy Silverado 5.3 just over 16
Ford F150 ecoboost(2 engines) just under 18.
You don't have many miles on your truck yet and we are probably using winter blend gas.

stickguy

Makes me appreciate my lifetime 28+ overall on the Maverick.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

Had to run up to North Jersey in the Ram yesterday. Does everything well on a nice highway drive. Well… all but one thing

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What’s wrong with an hour and a half drive?

jmonroe

tifighter

tjc78 said:

Had to run up to North Jersey in the Ram yesterday. Does everything well on a nice highway drive. Well… all but one thing

The digital odo pretending to be analog is a funny touch.

corvette

28firefighter

Congrats, @corvette!

Michaell

Awesome! Congrats for the add to the fleet.

Does this mean the Q5 is going back to the folks?

carnaught

@corvette said:

A big congrats! Like the truck, like the shoes!

Many safe miles!

nyccarguy

@corvette

Way to go! Mazel-Tov! Safe trip home!

kyfdx

Congrats! @corvette

au1994

Congrats! Looks great!

stickguy

Congrats. But it looks like it sprang a leak!

I’m curious to know if you will have an adjustment period going to a strippo model after having features?

henryn

explorerx4 said:

@tjc78,
I went on Fuelly and checked the reported mileage for crewcab pickups.
Ram with 5.7 eTorque just over 16
Chevy Silverado 5.3 just over 16
Ford F150 ecoboost(2 engines) just under 18.
You don't have many miles on your truck yet and we are probably using winter blend gas.

I have owned 3 Ford F150 pickups with the ecoboost engine, and I recorded every tank of gas. Not once did I ever fall under 18. For a highway trip, with some city driving, I usually recorded 23 or 24 mpg. Yes, I know many people report poorer mpg with the ecoboost engine, I can only assume they are driving much more aggressively than I am. Not that I am a slow driver, you will usually find me driving above the speed limit, but I don't do "drag race" starts like I did when I was younger.

My older 2013 F150, with the Coyote V8, is doing around 15 to 16, pretty steady in that range, highway or city.

Once upon a time, in a land far away, I had an 1999 F250 with the big block 460 cid gas engine, and towed a 10,000 lb 5th wheel travel trailer. That truck averaged 11 or 12 mpg unloaded, and 8 or 9 mpg towing the 5th wheel. I remember one trip, with a strong head wind, came in at 7 mpg.

henryn

And speaking of drag race starts, I remember one freeway entrance where you had no choice. There was a red light that would stop you immediately before the entrance ramp, the ramp was short, fairly steep uphill, and there was no merge lane once you got up to the freeway. Traffic on the freeway was usually heavy and moving at 60 or 70 mph. I always wished I had my 69 Charger 440 back whenever I had to attempt that death defying feat.

imidazol97

stickguy said:

Congrats. But it looks like it sprang a leak!

Looks good.

explorerx4

@corvette,
Enjoy your 'Get to know you' trip with your new Mav.

jmonroe1

corvette said:

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Congrats and good luck with it, you sure waited long enough for it.

Be sure to wear that jacket when you drive it in the Winter. That’s a nice contrasting color and will make the Maverick look even better. Too bad the Maverick can’t do much for the driver.

jmonroe

stickguy

he barely waited at all! I am up to 13 months on mine, with no end in sight. Took so long it had a model year birthday and is now supposed to be a 2023.

kyfdx

Saw that blue color on a Maverick at Home Depot, this week.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

he barely waited at all! I am up to 13 months on mine, with no end in sight. Took so long it had a model year birthday and is now supposed to be a 2023.

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Yeah but you already have one. You should be thankful that Ford didn’t put you on the hoarders list which is completely ignored.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

@qbrozen - getting some bites on the Gloria. 3 days to go! We are all pulling for you. I think even @jmonroe wants you to do well;)-

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

@qbrozen - getting some bites on the Gloria. 3 days to go! We are all pulling for you. I think even @jmonroe wants you to do well;)-

Indeed! Also, you need to get a gimbal for that phone! /dizzy

corvette

Thanks, guys! I’ll try to give a detailed write up and better respond to messages once I get back to a computer with an actual keyboard. 27.1 MPG on the first tank and there was a lot of wind for about the first 100-200 miles.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Had to run up to North Jersey in the Ram yesterday. Does everything well on a nice highway drive. Well… all but one thing

That mileage might improve, the ones I’ve driven with the 5.7L usually got around 20mpg on the highway.

ab348

kyfdx said:

Saw that blue color on a Maverick at Home Depot, this week.

Blue?

kyfdx

ab348 said:

kyfdx said:

Saw that blue color on a Maverick at Home Depot, this week.

Blue?

The Maverick in the picture, next to his gray one.

stickguy

Area 51 is the color.

tjc78

@oldfarmer50 said:
That mileage might improve, the ones I’ve driven with the 5.7L usually got around 20mpg on the highway.

I think my heavy foot is mostly to blame.

corvette

Michaell said:

Does this mean the Q5 is going back to the folks?

Yes! I got the inside cleaned up and rid of most of the dog hair.

stickguy said:

I’m curious to know if you will have an adjustment period going to a strippo model after having features?

The biggest adjustment by far has been having to use the fob to unlock the doors. Most of the options on my Tundra were things like the sport appearance package, the running boards (which you need on something that big but not the Mav), factory navigation (which I didn't really use), etc... Basically things you don't really notice or use on a daily basis. And LED headlights, which the Maverick has.

corvette

28.1 MPG on the leg of the trip going home, about 300 miles. Picked up a few frozen pizzas from Lou Malnati's south of Indianapolis and put them in the bed so they'd stay cold (I've had the OG in Chicago, and if they're even half as good, I'll be pleased).

The dealership experience was excellent overall. I e-signed paperwork and the only thing I had to do was sign an odometer disclosure once I got there. They gave me an envelope with paper copies of everything and got me set up with the FordPass app and CarPlay. Unlike many purchases where I merely feel like I did okay, I'd have no hesitation at all about doing this same type of deal a second time with the same dealer if I needed another vehicle.

My initial impressions over almost 700 miles are that I'm very impressed with the utility of the Maverick and the overall driving experience is better than most of the vehicles in the ~$25k price class that mine is in. The interior has a ton of usable storage space and is generally a pleasant place to spend time. The Tundra had an all-black interior, so the darker interior of the XL trim level compared to the XLT and Lariat does not bother me. The seats are comfortable and the sun visors are the perfect size. I would prefer it to have an assist handle above the driver's door, but this was missing on my Tundra, as well. I really like the dark blue interior trim, as that interior color is very uncommon on modern mass market vehicles.

The ride quality is similar to other Ford CUVs I have driven, with the caveat that the unladen bed does cause it to sometimes get jittery over bumps. It's very maneuverable, but you do notice the longer wheelbase compared to an Edge or Escape when parking. The 2.0T engine is plenty of power for a vehicle like this, although I am not convinced of the 6-second 0-60 times that some people claim. I may have to do a Dragy run after burning a few tanks of premium fuel to confirm. The throttle is a bit touchy off the line and I'm pleased to report that I spun the wheels a bit pulling onto the highway out of the dealership. The engine is almost silent at idle besides the typical direct injection ticking.

A few quality glitches: the fabric on my front seats is slightly bunched up in a few places, there appears to have been a dab of seam sealer left on the bed next to the tailgate (which was painted over but is in an area where it will probably get chipped off), and there was a random loose bolt rattling around in the bed.

I have the all-weather mats installed as well as the dog cover for the rear seat. Just ordered a tonneau cover as I was typing this. Thanks to @stickguy for reminding me that Realtruck offers a discount for forum members from Maverick Truck Club, as well as (I think) some other forums.

kyfdx

@corvette Is it AWD or FWD?

stickguy

His is AWD. I have the lowly FWD.

Corvette, did the Tundra have an actual key too? that is the main reason I upped my first order to a Lariat. I could not give up keyless entry and push button start!

corvette

Correct, mine is AWD...

@stickguy - The Tundra had full keyless ignition and entry with lock/unlock sensors on both front door handles.

qbrozen

In ATL. Have my dealer seminar in the morn.

Wife and I were talking. She knows I’m miserable and says I should just quit my job. I’m thinking it would be a little smarter to wait till the new year so at least I get the paid holidays.

xwesx

That's quite solid performance for an AWD gasser; it should be an enjoyable one to own for a time!

corvette

In front of the American Gothic house in Eldon, Iowa.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

In ATL. Have my dealer seminar in the morn.

Wife and I were talking. She knows I’m miserable and says I should just quit my job. I’m thinking it would be a little smarter to wait till the new year so at least I get the paid holidays.

How does that settle out economically? When I quit my corporate job to become a farmer the finances were shaky and I worried for a long time if I would be able to feed my family.

Would you just get another job in your field or strike out in your own business?

stickguy

well, becoming a farmer might not generate much money, but if nothing else you should be able to feed them!

stickguy

I (even more so my wife) reached that point where you are pretty well done with it all. and of a milestone age (the big one this year) where people do retire. but at least a few years before we probably really should consider it. but if I told her I reran the numbers and she can quit now if she wants, I don't think she would think about it too long! Though she gets annual bonus, so no quitting before March. though last time we discussed I pointed out that she might as well wait until labor day, because sept-Dec is her busy time, so why quit during the slow period?

breld

@corvette - congrats on the Maverick! Love the color, of course!

breld

I know these are generally unloved, but I kinda like it and strikes me as a value for the utility combined with the great I-6.

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2019-bmw-6-series-640-gran-turismo-i-xdrive-awd-hatchback-wbajv6c52kbk08157/

And I still find these 8-series attractive…

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2020-bmw-8-series-840i-awd-2dr-car-wbaae4c01lcd99268/

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2022-bmw-8-series-840i-awd-2dr-car-wbaae4c03nch58185/

I posted that carbon black one months ago and it remains languishing on their lot, down about $10k from the first time I noticed it.

Michaell

breld said:

I know these are generally unloved, but I kinda like it and strikes me as a value for the utility combined with the great I-6.

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2019-bmw-6-series-640-gran-turismo-i-xdrive-awd-hatchback-wbajv6c52kbk08157/

And I still find these 8-series attractive…

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2020-bmw-8-series-840i-awd-2dr-car-wbaae4c01lcd99268/

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2022-bmw-8-series-840i-awd-2dr-car-wbaae4c03nch58185/

I posted that carbon black one months ago and it remains languishing on their lot, down about $10k from the first time I noticed it.

Oh, goodness, I really do love that 640.

What are you doing tomorrow?

oldfarmer50

breld said:

I know these are generally unloved, but I kinda like it and strikes me as a value for the utility combined with the great I-6.

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2019-bmw-6-series-640-gran-turismo-i-xdrive-awd-hatchback-wbajv6c52kbk08157/

And I still find these 8-series attractive…

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2020-bmw-8-series-840i-awd-2dr-car-wbaae4c01lcd99268/

https://www.schompbmw.com/inventory/certified-used-2022-bmw-8-series-840i-awd-2dr-car-wbaae4c03nch58185/

I posted that carbon black one months ago and it remains languishing on their lot, down about $10k from the first time I noticed it.

I always liked the looks of the 6 series.