Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen

Speaking of business, BaT has just informed me that it looks like the Pajero will go live today. They wasted no time with that one.

stickguy

Here you go.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mitsubishi-pajero-9/

28firefighter

Don't need it, but I want it.

stickguy

now this is the kind of classic car I would like. Authentic style but modern functionality.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-chevrolet-camaro-268/

stickguy

28firefighter said:

Don't need it, but I want it.

there are a lot of the JDM imports that I love and think are cool, but I just couldn't deal with a RHD car if I was actually going to drive it.

qbrozen

I gotta be honest, you get used to it very quick. If you are one who visits the drivethrough solo a lot, I could see it being an issue. Other than that, not a problem at all. I don't even notice it in the Suzuki. And even the Pajero ain't that noticeable after several minutes. I felt like the Gloria was the oddest. Just the seating position was so far towards the door.

qbrozen

stickguy said:

now this is the kind of classic car I would like. Authentic style but modern functionality.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-chevrolet-camaro-268/

Are we looking at the same one? Crank windows, no heat, no A/C, still carbureted. What modern functionality? Because it goes forward when gassed and stops when braked? lol.

corvette

Looks good for 30-ish years old and 159k miles. From a distance, the Mitsu logo in the center of the steering wheel looks like it's a switch to turn on the hazard flashers. I wonder whether some ceramic coating would have made the boot around the shifter look less faded--the YouTube guys swear by that for restoring trim.

qbrozen

corvette said:

Looks good for 30-ish years old and 159k miles. From a distance, the Mitsu logo in the center of the steering wheel looks like it's a switch to turn on the hazard flashers. I wonder whether some ceramic coating would have made the boot around the shifter look less faded--the YouTube guys swear by that for restoring trim.

It is seriously a gorgeous rig. I'm amazed how clean it is. If I had a 20-car barn, it wouldn't be going anywhere.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

now this is the kind of classic car I would like. Authentic style but modern functionality.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-chevrolet-camaro-268/

Are we looking at the same one? Crank windows, no heat, no A/C, still carbureted. What modern functionality? Because it goes forward when gassed and stops when braked? lol.

I didn't analyze the details. But it has real suspension, brakes, seats, a 5 speed, etc. Even the carb is OK since it has electronic controls I think (though I would have put on something like a Holley EFI set-up).

Odd to not have heat but you can always put it back. Or, just drive in nice weather and you don't need it! Power windows are an easy add too.

jmonroe1

henryn said:

Michaell said:

Is buying a used MINI as much of a risk as this member thinks?

I would tend to say "Yes". But that's based on just what I've heard and read, mostly here in these forums. With no personal knowledge, I will stay out of that debate.

When I was young, I owned a number of "fun cars". They cost more to own, more to maintain, and gave me more trouble, but I don't regret a bit of it.

ON EDIT: Looking back on it, fast cars and fast women consumed all of my time, energy, and money when I was young. But like the man said, "Ain't it great!"

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I agree with what you said and your thoughts may be different than mine, but being totally honest, I had more fun with the women.

jmonroe

tjc78

Good luck Q. Looks great

roadburner

jmonroe1 said:

henryn said:

Michaell said:

Is buying a used MINI as much of a risk as this member thinks?

I would tend to say "Yes". But that's based on just what I've heard and read, mostly here in these forums. With no personal knowledge, I will stay out of that debate.

When I was young, I owned a number of "fun cars". They cost more to own, more to maintain, and gave me more trouble, but I don't regret a bit of it.

ON EDIT: Looking back on it, fast cars and fast women consumed all of my time, energy, and money when I was young. But like the man said, "Ain't it great!"

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I agree with what you said and your thoughts may be different than mine, but being totally honest, I had more fun with the women.

jmonroe

One of the questions asked at one of my law school reunions was, "How have you changed since law school?"
My reply was, "I now play around with fast cars instead of fast women."
Which is true.

henryn

My new Silverado did not adjust the clock when Daylight Savings Time kicked in Sunday morning. I was a little disappointed, as my 4 year old Pacifica does so and I expected a 23 Silverado to do the same. Looking into the matter, it was quite a bit more complicated than I first thought.

The Silverado has a setting for “Automatic Date/Time”. When you go into the setting, it says “set from network” which begs the question, “What network / Which network?”. At any rate, I turned off the “Automatic Date/Time”, set the hour manually, and all was good. Then curiosity got the better of me, and I turned it back on. The time was immediately wrong again.

Digging further, I found a “Automatic Time Zone” setting, which was also turned on. I turned that off, which allowed me into manual settings, and it was already set to “GMT -6”. Now that is correct for CST, but not for CDT. I manually set the time zone to “CDT”, and now all is good. But it still seems a little odd to me that “Automatic Time Zone” could not handle Daylight Savings Time.

Altogether, a lot easier on the Pacifica, where it “just works”.

tifighter

Q is putting that lift to use in the auction pics. You love to see it.

tifighter

We did a ski trip last week that involved a few hours of driving. I mentioned that we should take the Montero for the heck of it, and my wife kinda gave a face. By day two she said, "yeah, I can see why you like it. It's kinda cool."

I'll take it.

qbrozen

tifighter said:

Q is putting that lift to use in the auction pics. You love to see it.

That lift has not had a break! One of those things that I'm already saying "how did I ever live without it?!"

And I just received my stand-up oil receptacle thingy today. Even more exciting. It was quite annoying draining fluids from 6 feet in the air.

akangl

@henryn said:
My new Silverado did not adjust the clock when Daylight Savings Time kicked in Sunday morning. I was a little disappointed, as my 4 year old Pacifica does so and I expected a 23 Silverado to do the same. Looking into the matter, it was quite a bit more complicated than I first thought.

The Silverado has a setting for “Automatic Date/Time”. When you go into the setting, it says “set from network” which begs the question, “What network / Which network?”. At any rate, I turned off the “Automatic Date/Time”, set the hour manually, and all was good. Then curiosity got the better of me, and I turned it back on. The time was immediately wrong again.

Digging further, I found a “Automatic Time Zone” setting, which was also turned on. I turned that off, which allowed me into manual settings, and it was already set to “GMT -6”. Now that is correct for CST, but not for CDT. I manually set the time zone to “CDT”, and now all is good. But it still seems a little odd to me that “Automatic Time Zone” could not handle Daylight Savings Time.

Altogether, a lot easier on the Pacifica, where it “just works”.

I discovered my ‘23 Tahoe didn’t change the time either. Rather my 28 year old smart @ss son pointed it out when he got in the car to go and look at an RV. Not the time to pick on mom….doing him a favor of inspecting a used RV he wanted to buy. Kids!

akangl

@xwesx said:
I think you have to consider where she's coming from.... After a Trailhawk (a 700HP Hellcat engine in a Grand Cherokee) and pair of Explorer STs (the turbocharged high-performance version of the Explorer), I imagine its really hard to go back to something that just has solid performance (from a layman's perspective). When one grows accustomed to a zero-to-sixty time well under six seconds, a tawdry seven seconds over the same acceleration range is downright snoozeville!

I had a Cherokee Trailhawk, never owned a Trackhawk, did get my butt kicked by one in the ST though. In my defense I didn’t know what it was until it blew by me. I thought it was an SRT.

Oddly enough I don’t mind the Tahoe being lethargic, it’s fine, does its job, and I truly enjoy it. However the fuel economy just kills me. I mean I don’t drive a lot but still spend $260/mo on gas according to my gas app and that’s with average monthly driving of 946 miles. That’s why I’m considering the diesel.

On another note we almost pulled the trigger on a 2022 (new) Jeep GC 4xe last night. That is until the sales manager decided to become an arrogant well yeah and blew everything up. So we walked. It’s fine though, got back in my Tahoe and realized I really prefer the bigger SUV.

Planning on ordering the exact Tahoe I want today or just sucking it up and keeping mind. It just has a few options I really really miss.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Here you go.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mitsubishi-pajero-9/

Not even a mention that this is part of the Qbrozen collection. That provenance’ alone should bring an extra $10k.

oldfarmer50

henryn said:

My new Silverado did not adjust the clock when Daylight Savings Time kicked in Sunday morning. I was a little disappointed, as my 4 year old Pacifica does so and I expected a 23 Silverado to do the same. Looking into the matter, it was quite a bit more complicated than I first thought.

The Silverado has a setting for “Automatic Date/Time”. When you go into the setting, it says “set from network” which begs the question, “What network / Which network?”. At any rate, I turned off the “Automatic Date/Time”, set the hour manually, and all was good. Then curiosity got the better of me, and I turned it back on. The time was immediately wrong again.

Digging further, I found a “Automatic Time Zone” setting, which was also turned on. I turned that off, which allowed me into manual settings, and it was already set to “GMT -6”. Now that is correct for CST, but not for CDT. I manually set the time zone to “CDT”, and now all is good. But it still seems a little odd to me that “Automatic Time Zone” could not handle Daylight Savings Time.

Altogether, a lot easier on the Pacifica, where it “just works”.

For what it’s worth my Chevy doesn’t automatically switch times either. I have to watch a YT video every time I want to go to daylight savings.

akangl

@oldfarmer50 said:
Not even a mention that this is part of the Qbrozen collection. That provenance’ alone should bring an extra $10k.

Now that thing is cool! I just don’t think I could do rhd. Fun to have in a collection though.

henryn

akangl said:

@xwesx said:

I think you have to consider where she's coming from.... After a Trailhawk (a 700HP Hellcat engine in a Grand Cherokee) and pair of Explorer STs (the turbocharged high-performance version of the Explorer), I imagine its really hard to go back to something that just has solid performance (from a layman's perspective). When one grows accustomed to a zero-to-sixty time well under six seconds, a tawdry seven seconds over the same acceleration range is downright snoozeville!

I had a Cherokee Trailhawk, never owned a Trackhawk, did get my butt kicked by one in the ST though. In my defense I didn’t know what it was until it blew by me. I thought it was an SRT.

Oddly enough I don’t mind the Tahoe being lethargic, it’s fine, does its job, and I truly enjoy it. However the fuel economy just kills me. I mean I don’t drive a lot but still spend $260/mo on gas according to my gas app and that’s with average monthly driving of 946 miles. That’s why I’m considering the diesel.

On another note we almost pulled the trigger on a 2022 (new) Jeep GC 4xe last night. That is until the sales manager decided to become an arrogant well yeah and blew everything up. So we walked. It’s fine though, got back in my Tahoe and realized I really prefer the bigger SUV.

Planning on ordering the exact Tahoe I want today or just sucking it up and keeping mind. It just has a few options I really really miss.

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What options are you missing that you really want? The only one I can think of missing on mine is the Blind Spot warning. The owner's manual does a lot of talking about an optional HUD (Heads Up Display), which would be fun to play with. Although I suspect I would get tired of it rather quickly.

cdnpinhead

Sadly, several of the clocks I deal with "helpfully" reset themselves automatically over the weekend. I exist in Arizona which doesn't observe Daylight Saving time. It takes more effort than you might imagine to undo this, given that I need to do it only twice a year. Even my phone, which is usually very good at this sort of thing, required shutting off and restarting.

akangl

@henryn said:
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What options are you missing that you really want? The only one I can think of missing on mine is the Blind Spot warning. The owner's manual does a lot of talking about an optional HUD (Heads Up Display), which would be fun to play with. Although I suspect I would get tired of it rather quickly.

Heated steering wheel (I thought I wouldn’t miss it but sometimes I really do, especially when it’s below zero, blind spot monitoring, 360 camera, adaptive cruise, and power tilt/telescope steering wheel. I don’t need all of those but most are in a package. My little guy is more worried about losing his entertainment thing in the back, he loves the touch screens.

stickguy

It has been too long. I can't remember if the Acura changed automatically or if I had to go in and do it.

ab348

GM seems to have a constant problem with their infotainment systems and time changes. Neither Cadillac I’ve had has ever got it right regardless of what settings I chose. My faulty memory nags at me that a couple of times it surprised me and did it correctly, but the only thing I remember for certain is that I always seem to have to go into the settings and reset the time myself. Very odd.

roadburner

My M235i adjusted for DST automatically until the 3G networks shut down. The C43 adjusts- at least as long as 4G is available.

nyccarguy

@akangl said:

@xwesx said:
I think you have to consider where she's coming from.... After a Trailhawk (a 700HP Hellcat engine in a Grand Cherokee) and pair of Explorer STs (the turbocharged high-performance version of the Explorer), I imagine its really hard to go back to something that just has solid performance (from a layman's perspective). When one grows accustomed to a zero-to-sixty time well under six seconds, a tawdry seven seconds over the same acceleration range is downright snoozeville!

I had a Cherokee Trailhawk, never owned a Trackhawk, did get my butt kicked by one in the ST though. In my defense I didn’t know what it was until it blew by me. I thought it was an SRT.

Oddly enough I don’t mind the Tahoe being lethargic, it’s fine, does its job, and I truly enjoy it. However the fuel economy just kills me. I mean I don’t drive a lot but still spend $260/mo on gas according to my gas app and that’s with average monthly driving of 946 miles. That’s why I’m considering the diesel.

On another note we almost pulled the trigger on a 2022 (new) Jeep GC 4xe last night. That is until the sales manager decided to become an arrogant well yeah and blew everything up. So we walked. It’s fine though, got back in my Tahoe and realized I really prefer the bigger SUV.

Planning on ordering the exact Tahoe I want today or just sucking it up and keeping mind. It just has a few options I really really miss.

Do you tow with the Tahoe? I mentioned my Dad ordered a ‘23 Tahoe RST. About a month after we placed the order with the dealer, the salesman called to tell us that he got an allocation for an RST. One of the option boxes he checked was for the max tow package which includes things like a stronger alternator, 2 speed transfer case (2WD, Auto, 4 High, & 4 Low), transmission cooler, and a few other goodies. The dealer was told that no Tahoes, Yukons, XLs, or Suburbans will be built with the Max Tow Package. One part is not being produced.

akangl

@nyccarguy said:

@akangl said:

@xwesx said:
I think you have to consider where she's coming from.... After a Trailhawk (a 700HP Hellcat engine in a Grand Cherokee) and pair of Explorer STs (the turbocharged high-performance version of the Explorer), I imagine its really hard to go back to something that just has solid performance (from a layman's perspective). When one grows accustomed to a zero-to-sixty time well under six seconds, a tawdry seven seconds over the same acceleration range is downright snoozeville!

I had a Cherokee Trailhawk, never owned a Trackhawk, did get my butt kicked by one in the ST though. In my defense I didn’t know what it was until it blew by me. I thought it was an SRT.

Oddly enough I don’t mind the Tahoe being lethargic, it’s fine, does its job, and I truly enjoy it. However the fuel economy just kills me. I mean I don’t drive a lot but still spend $260/mo on gas according to my gas app and that’s with average monthly driving of 946 miles. That’s why I’m considering the diesel.

On another note we almost pulled the trigger on a 2022 (new) Jeep GC 4xe last night. That is until the sales manager decided to become an arrogant well yeah and blew everything up. So we walked. It’s fine though, got back in my Tahoe and realized I really prefer the bigger SUV.

Planning on ordering the exact Tahoe I want today or just sucking it up and keeping mind. It just has a few options I really really miss.

Do you tow with the Tahoe? I mentioned my Dad ordered a ‘23 Tahoe RST. About a month after we placed the order with the dealer, the salesman called to tell us that he got an allocation for an RST. One of the option boxes he checked was for the max tow package which includes things like a stronger alternator, 2 speed transfer case (2WD, Auto, 4 High, & 4 Low), transmission cooler, and a few other goodies. The dealer was told that no Tahoes, Yukons, XLs, or Suburbans will be built with the Max Tow Package. One part is not being produced.

No we don’t tow with it as a general rule. That’s what we have the Ram for. The only real “towing” it does is moving the 38’ RV around the yard because it’s shorter and turns tighter than the Ram. Otherwise we can’t get the RV into its parking space.

I’m headed to the Chevy dealer tonight to talk with them about ordering one or just taking the RST they have coming in although I don’t like the color. If I order or take the one coming in I’ll sell my Tahoe to them this week and drive the Ram until the new one gets here.

corvette

@akangl I'm shocked that BSM isn't standard by now on a vehicle as expensive as a Tahoe. Like infotainment screens, that's a feature that can be easily turned off if the driver really doesn't want it.

tjc78

@corvette said:
@akangl I'm shocked that BSM isn't standard by now on a vehicle as expensive as a Tahoe. Like infotainment screens, that's a feature that can be easily turned off if the driver really doesn't want it.

My Ram was nearly 60K and doesn’t have it.

sb55

Even thought I traded my 2017 Silverado last week, I got an email from Carvana. Just for jollies I plugged in the info. They offered $20,508. Good thing that I traded it because I got $29K plus the 6% tax advantage. Big difference, so I'm happy.

xwesx

akangl said:

Oddly enough I don’t mind the Tahoe being lethargic, it’s fine, does its job, and I truly enjoy it. However the fuel economy just kills me. I mean I don’t drive a lot but still spend $260/mo on gas according to my gas app and that’s with average monthly driving of 946 miles. That’s why I’m considering the diesel.

I think going with a diesel would be the wrong move at this juncture. They're just too stifled with emissions crap (that is unreliable, fails regularly, and leads other systems on the car toward an early grave), they cost too much more up front, and the substantially higher cost of fuel means you'll literally never be able to recoup the added costs. Sure, you will be able to stop at the station less frequently, but you'll still pay a lot more when you do.

nyccarguy

akangl said:

@nyccarguy said:

@akangl said:

@xwesx said:

I think you have to consider where she's coming from.... After a Trailhawk (a 700HP Hellcat engine in a Grand Cherokee) and pair of Explorer STs (the turbocharged high-performance version of the Explorer), I imagine its really hard to go back to something that just has solid performance (from a layman's perspective). When one grows accustomed to a zero-to-sixty time well under six seconds, a tawdry seven seconds over the same acceleration range is downright snoozeville!

I had a Cherokee Trailhawk, never owned a Trackhawk, did get my butt kicked by one in the ST though. In my defense I didn’t know what it was until it blew by me. I thought it was an SRT.

Oddly enough I don’t mind the Tahoe being lethargic, it’s fine, does its job, and I truly enjoy it. However the fuel economy just kills me. I mean I don’t drive a lot but still spend $260/mo on gas according to my gas app and that’s with average monthly driving of 946 miles. That’s why I’m considering the diesel.

On another note we almost pulled the trigger on a 2022 (new) Jeep GC 4xe last night. That is until the sales manager decided to become an arrogant well yeah and blew everything up. So we walked. It’s fine though, got back in my Tahoe and realized I really prefer the bigger SUV.

Planning on ordering the exact Tahoe I want today or just sucking it up and keeping mind. It just has a few options I really really miss.

Do you tow with the Tahoe? I mentioned my Dad ordered a ‘23 Tahoe RST. About a month after we placed the order with the dealer, the salesman called to tell us that he got an allocation for an RST. One of the option boxes he checked was for the max tow package which includes things like a stronger alternator, 2 speed transfer case (2WD, Auto, 4 High, & 4 Low), transmission cooler, and a few other goodies. The dealer was told that no Tahoes, Yukons, XLs, or Suburbans will be built with the Max Tow Package. One part is not being produced.

No we don’t tow with it as a general rule. That’s what we have the Ram for. The only real “towing” it does is moving the 38’ RV around the yard because it’s shorter and turns tighter than the Ram. Otherwise we can’t get the RV into its parking space.

I’m headed to the Chevy dealer tonight to talk with them about ordering one or just taking the RST they have coming in although I don’t like the color. If I order or take the one coming in I’ll sell my Tahoe to them this week and drive the Ram until the new one gets here.

I got a call from the dealer this AM. My Dad's Tahoe is built and shipped. It should be here sometime next week!

henryn

xwesx said:

I think going with a diesel would be the wrong move at this juncture. They're just too stifled with emissions crap (that is unreliable, fails regularly, and leads other systems on the car toward an early grave), they cost too much more up front, and the substantially higher cost of fuel means you'll literally never be able to recoup the added costs. Sure, you will be able to stop at the station less frequently, but you'll still pay a lot more when you do.

Back eons ago (2000 or so), I owned a Ford Super Duty with the venerable 7.3L diesel. A great truck, would pull anything, and got very good fuel mileage when towing a 10,000 pound 5th wheel travel trailer. The previous truck, another Ford with the big block gas V8 (460 cid) would get between 7 and 9 when towing, the diesel ran between 13 and 15, a big difference.

More recently, when I had the VW Passat TDI for a few months, I was amazed at the fuel mileage. And the overall performance was okay. Not outstanding, but okay. I wouldn't mind owning one again, given the right circumstances.

But in both of those instances, the price spread between RUG and diesel fuel was a lot less than it is today. With diesel running $1.00 a gallon above RUG, or even more, I really wouldn't consider another diesel at this moment in time. Except and unless I had to tow something really heavy, in which case I would buy diesel, unquestionably. When you hook up 10k lbs behind your truck, the difference between gas and diesel is immense.

stickguy

add my vote to only getting the diesel if you are doing heavy towing.

kyfdx

At the airport, yesterday, waiting in the cell phone lot. Sedan pulled in beside me, and had Plug-in Hybrid designation on the front fender. Without staring at my neighbor, I noticed it had a Honda alloy wheel. I sat there for ten minutes, and couldn't think of a single PHEV for Honda.

I was on the way home, and finally realized that it must have been a Clarity. Pretty rare sighting.

ab348

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a cell phone lot?

nyccarguy

ab348 said:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a cell phone lot?

It is a parking lot at the airport specifically for people who are waiting for arriving passengers. Pre 9/11 you used to be able to just wait right outside baggage claim. It also helps with airport roadway traffic congestion to not have so many cars waiting on the grounds.

sda

The clock in the 06 TL is GPS linked so the time used to update automatically. About 2 years ago it stopped updating and the functionality to reset the clock manually is grayed out and not usable. I took it to Honda as they had a similar set up in the Accord and they couldn't figure it out either. Researching forums on AcuraZine apparently this a known issue. As the car is so old no fix available. The clock is correct only during day light savings time.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a cell phone lot?

In my day it was called lovers lane where you took your girl to “go watch the planes land”.🥰

henryn

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a cell phone lot?

In my day it was called lovers lane where you took your girl to “go watch the planes land”.🥰

We didn't have an airport around here. What we did have was the "lights". Down outside of Sour Lake, there was a swamp and methane gas would leak and burn, visibly. Very spooky, late at night.

stickguy

anybody need a nice looking truck that was obviously impeccably well maintained?

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2674031

sda

The cell phone lot at the Charlotte airport is almost always full which is frustrating when you're waiting for someone to arrive. Your only option is to keep circling the airport drive or park somewhere away from the airport as short term parking is always full.

ab348

So who calls who when someone is cooling their heels in the cellphone lot? Is there an accepted protocol?

I really have to get out more. Between this revelation and the winning choices at the Academy Awards the other night I feel like I am living in a totally different world.

stickguy

they are a great invention. much better than having to deal with the parking garage and paying for it.

the traveler texts (or calls if dealing with an old timer!) when they clear security on the way out (or have their bags if collecting checked ones). The goal is to have them at the curb by the time the pick up person pulls up.

Philly put in one a while back. very handy. Before that, people would just park (very illegally and not at all safely) on the offramps from I95 into the airport (big swooping elevated ramps) and wait for a call. Right under many signs saying not to do it. Once in a while the cops would come and start ticketing, that cleared it right out. Temporarily only of course.

oddest thing, even with the cell phone lot any many signs to it, people still park on the ramps (and occasionally get plowed into).

kyfdx

Wow...

mjfloyd1

kyfdx said:

Wow...

Prolly need a wireless backup camera to make this work😂

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

anybody need a nice looking truck that was obviously impeccably well maintained?

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2674031

Sorry, it looks like a northern truck, you know, rusty.

Just curious, what did it cost new?