Hey gang… what is everyone’s thoughts on the new Santa Fe? Did Hyundai go too far this time?
My first impression of it wasn't bad. It is distinctive and to some extent mimics the Range Rover/Defender look but of course at a much lower price point. They will probably sell lots of them. I thought the tortured metal stamping on the Elantra and Tucson body sides was a bridge too far for their design team but I see them everywhere and people don't seem to mind it.
———————————————— Given the opportunity I like to park with that hunk of concrete protecting my front bumper too. I consider it being 25% full proof from damage. Better than no protection.
BTW, that guy is thinking of protection. Notice how far right he is in that parking spot.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Something tells me if there were a bunch of us guys in here in the same parking lot and we saw a parking spot like that, there just might be a fight to see who gets it.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
@jmonroe1 said:
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I thought that was you.
Something tells me if there were a bunch of us guys in here in the same parking lot and we saw a parking spot like that, there just might be a fight to see who gets it.
jmonroe
You bet!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@kyfdx said: @nyccarguy Does your son have his license, yet? Can't imagine it will only be $750/yr for insurance.
Our Tacoma was $1800/yr for my son
Yes. He has his license. I did online quotes with multiple companies. I finished up on the phone. I triple checked that all my coverages were correct. I called up to add the Tacoma to the policy and they made sure it all checks out. It’s the 4th car on the policy.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
@kyfdx said: @nyccarguy Does your son have his license, yet? Can't imagine it will only be $750/yr for insurance.
Our Tacoma was $1800/yr for my son
Yes. He has his license. I did online quotes with multiple companies. I finished up on the phone. I triple checked that all my coverages were correct. I called up to add the Tacoma to the policy and they made sure it all checks out. It’s the 4th car on the policy.
Not sure how it works in CT, but in CO our kids had to be "rated" on a car, if there were an equal number of cars and drivers.
Good comments on the Santa Fe. I think it will be a pretty big hit. My opinion is they went a little too far, but it’s no worse than what Ford did with the Flex.
Santa Fe--they are definitely making a statement. I'd consider one if it fit my wants and needs at the time. I also saw a new Palisade (or something) on my street, in pearl white paint with the bling grill, and mistook it for a Cadillac at first.
@Michaell said:
Not sure how it works in CT, but in CO our kids had to be "rated" on a car, if there were an equal number of cars and drivers.
A couple of the insurance companies asked me what car he would be driving. This company for whatever reason did not. Unless I did it automatically without asking. And just assigned them to the prelude because it is the oldest vehicle by far.
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Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.
I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels. ———————————————— I went to grade school (7th and 8th grade) with a kid named Fuchs. He came to the US from Germany when he was in 3rd grade. The family shoulda taken that opportunity to change their name. Oh well, a lifetime of, “what did you say your name is”.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Does anyone here have any recommendations for decent budget all seasons? A family friend is on a really tight budget and needs new 16” tires for their Subaru Impreza. I seem to remember @qbrozen had become adept at finding great off brand tires.
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Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."
I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
@corvette said:
Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."
I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
@corvette said:
Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."
I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
Because having a vehicle that is useful AND fast is the dream. I’d ask all of them why they want to compromise and fill only one function.
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Two 19.5” monitors and rearview cam installed this past weekend. Also a 1000w inverter installed under the front passenger seat (lots of metal cutting for that) and each monitor has an HDMI port in the wall near the 2nd and 4th rows of seats, respectively. This was all quite a lot of work.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
It sounds remarkably like a board I watch from time to time- there's a large contingent of miled-up appliance/penalty box owners, self-righteous luddites and geezers who hate the thought of owning an entertaining vehicle.
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Agreed. The Maverick, especially with its steel wheels, is an excellent bargain "sleeper." Its cornering capability is decent for what it is, the ride quality is good, and the acceleration matches my parents' four year older Q5 (which cost about twice as much). Even within the Ford ecosystem, if you want the 2.0T powertrain, you're looking at either a very high trim level Escape or Bronco Sport, or a base model Edge, all of which hover around $40k MSRP.
@qbrozen said:
Two 19.5” monitors and rearview cam installed this past weekend. Also a 1000w inverter installed under the front passenger seat (lots of metal cutting for that) and each monitor has an HDMI port in the wall near the 2nd and 4th rows of seats, respectively. This was all quite a lot of work.
Two 19.5” monitors and rearview cam installed this past weekend. Also a 1000w inverter installed under the front passenger seat (lots of metal cutting for that) and each monitor has an HDMI port in the wall near the 2nd and 4th rows of seats, respectively. This was all quite a lot of work.
I think you’re all set for your new airport shuttle business.😂
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
It sounds remarkably like a board I watch from time to time- there's a large contingent of miled-up appliance/penalty box owners, self-righteous luddites and geezers who hate the thought of owning an entertaining vehicle.
Then again, there may be some Luddite geezers who splurge on an entertaining car to supplement their miled up penalty boxes. Kind of like being Clark Kent and occasionally Superman.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."
I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.
———————————————— I’ve mentioned this before in another forum here at Edmunds:
My first Genny was a 2009 with the V8 and it had something like 375 HP when using 93 octane gas and a measly 360 something HP when using RUG. I bought the car in April of 2009 and I had to have switched back and forth a couple dozen times trying to see if there was a difference in performance. I could barely tell the difference if there even was any.
Fast forward to the first cold morning in November (temp in the 30’s) when I’m going to work. As I’m coming down the on ramp of the PA Turnpike to merge, I step on it like I’d done hundreds of times before and this time the car really took off, no doubt about it. That proved to me that cold air input provides more power than a few more octane points.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."
I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.
———————————————— I’ve mentioned this before in another forum here at Edmunds:
My first Genny was a 2009 with the V8 and it had something like 375 HP when using 93 octane gas and a measly 360 something HP when using RUG. I bought the car in April of 2009 and I had to have switched back and forth a couple dozen times trying to see if there was a difference in performance. I could barely tell the difference if there even was any.
Fast forward to the first cold morning in November (temp in the 30’s) when I’m going to work. As I’m coming down the on ramp of the PA Turnpike to merge, I step on it like I’d done hundreds of times before and this time the car really took off, no doubt about it. That proved to me that cold air input provides more power than a few more octane points.
jmonroe
As built myMustang could use either 87 or premium with a 5% reduction in horsepower on 87. Why anyone would run 87 in a car like that always puzzled me and I always used premium.
With the mild performance upgrades I did the car now requires 91+ which is fine by me as I want the performance. I’ll save money driving the Kia on 87 if I’m feeling cheap.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
My eco boost Maverick it made no practical difference since any change was at higher revs/boost where I generally did not go. Basically the extra speed was wasted since I never needed to use everything the base tune offered.
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Our Tacoma was $1800/yr for my son
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So long as they also offer a less masculine SUV (Escape vs. Bronco Sport, for example), I think it will do well.
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My wife would love that!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I assume the taco is an automatic?
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Parked next to this beauty this morning:
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The only thing I’m not sure about is the placement of the taillights. Very minivan-ish.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2025 MB GLE450e - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Given the opportunity I like to park with that hunk of concrete protecting my front bumper too. I consider it being 25% full proof from damage. Better than no protection.
BTW, that guy is thinking of protection. Notice how far right he is in that parking spot.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I am too- that’s me parked on the other side.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I thought that was you.
Something tells me if there were a bunch of us guys in here in the same parking lot and we saw a parking spot like that, there just might be a fight to see who gets it.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
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Timing is everything.
What the Fuchs?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Only driven to church every Sunday by a little old lady
What the Fuchs?
Used to be the manufacturer of that style wheel.
Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.
I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels.
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There was an AMG SLK (55) then, pretty rare.
I know. It just sounded funny.
I know. It just sounded funny.
Yeah.. now I see the joke...
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You bet!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Yes. He has his license. I did online quotes with multiple companies. I finished up on the phone. I triple checked that all my coverages were correct. I called up to add the Tacoma to the policy and they made sure it all checks out. It’s the 4th car on the policy.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Yes. He has his license. I did online quotes with multiple companies. I finished up on the phone. I triple checked that all my coverages were correct. I called up to add the Tacoma to the policy and they made sure it all checks out. It’s the 4th car on the policy.
Not sure how it works in CT, but in CO our kids had to be "rated" on a car, if there were an equal number of cars and drivers.
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Good comments on the Santa Fe. I think it will be a pretty big hit. My opinion is they went a little too far, but it’s no worse than what Ford did with the Flex.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
A couple of the insurance companies asked me what car he would be driving. This company for whatever reason did not. Unless I did it automatically without asking. And just assigned them to the prelude because it is the oldest vehicle by far.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.
I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels.
————————————————
I went to grade school (7th and 8th grade) with a kid named Fuchs. He came to the US from Germany when he was in 3rd grade. The family shoulda taken that opportunity to change their name. Oh well, a lifetime of, “what did you say your name is”.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Wait. You mean someone using eBay as intended? Can’t be right.
Does anyone here have any recommendations for decent budget all seasons? A family friend is on a really tight budget and needs new 16” tires for their Subaru Impreza. I seem to remember @qbrozen had become adept at finding great off brand tires.
I really liked the Sumitomos that came on my Murano.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Altimax would be good on a smallish car. Wasn’t a fan of them on our Honda Pilot but they were decent on my G35.
I don’t like the Solus.
Go to prioritytire.com.
I don’t know all the dimensions you need but take a look at the Fullway HP108. Free to become a member and get better pricing.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
Because having a vehicle that is useful AND fast is the dream. I’d ask all of them why they want to compromise and fill only one function.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Two 19.5” monitors and rearview cam installed this past weekend. Also a 1000w inverter installed under the front passenger seat (lots of metal cutting for that) and each monitor has an HDMI port in the wall near the 2nd and 4th rows of seats, respectively. This was all quite a lot of work.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Looks factory. Nice upgrade for those long rides.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.
————————————————I’ve mentioned this before in another forum here at Edmunds:
My first Genny was a 2009 with the V8 and it had something like 375 HP when using 93 octane gas and a measly 360 something HP when using RUG. I bought the car in April of 2009 and I had to have switched back and forth a couple dozen times trying to see if there was a difference in performance. I could barely tell the difference if there even was any.
Fast forward to the first cold morning in November (temp in the 30’s) when I’m going to work. As I’m coming down the on ramp of the PA Turnpike to merge, I step on it like I’d done hundreds of times before and this time the car really took off, no doubt about it. That proved to me that cold air input provides more power than a few more octane points.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I’ve mentioned this before in another forum here at Edmunds:
My first Genny was a 2009 with the V8 and it had something like 375 HP when using 93 octane gas and a measly 360 something HP when using RUG. I bought the car in April of 2009 and I had to have switched back and forth a couple dozen times trying to see if there was a difference in performance. I could barely tell the difference if there even was any.
Fast forward to the first cold morning in November (temp in the 30’s) when I’m going to work. As I’m coming down the on ramp of the PA Turnpike to merge, I step on it like I’d done hundreds of times before and this time the car really took off, no doubt about it. That proved to me that cold air input provides more power than a few more octane points.
jmonroe
As built myMustang could use either 87 or premium with a 5% reduction in horsepower on 87. Why anyone would run 87 in a car like that always puzzled me and I always used premium.
With the mild performance upgrades I did the car now requires 91+ which is fine by me as I want the performance. I’ll save money driving the Kia on 87 if I’m feeling cheap.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.