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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,202
    @nyccarguy Does your son have his license, yet? Can't imagine it will only be $750/yr for insurance.

    Our Tacoma was $1800/yr for my son

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,407
    tjc78 said:

    Hey gang… what is everyone’s thoughts on the new Santa Fe? Did Hyundai go too far this time?

    Nah - I think "rugged" is in; see the new Lexus GX, Toyota Land Cruiser, Bronco/Bronco Sport, etc.

    So long as they also offer a less masculine SUV (Escape vs. Bronco Sport, for example), I think it will do well.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,338
    tjc78 said:


    Hey gang… what is everyone’s thoughts on the new Santa Fe? Did Hyundai go too far this time?

    My first impression of it wasn't bad. It is distinctive and to some extent mimics the Range Rover/Defender look but of course at a much lower price point. They will probably sell lots of them. I thought the tortured metal stamping on the Elantra and Tucson body sides was a bridge too far for their design team but I see them everywhere and people don't seem to mind it.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Bring a sandwich and negotiate.😂

    My wife would love that!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478

    I assume the taco is an automatic?

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,938
    I like the new Santa Fe. I can appreciate that Hyundai doesn’t commit itself to any particular design language.

    The only thing I’m not sure about is the placement of the taillights. Very minivan-ish.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,383

    Parked next to this beauty this morning:

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    Given the opportunity I like to park with that hunk of concrete protecting my front bumper too. I consider it being 25% full proof from damage. Better than no protection.

    BTW, that guy is thinking of protection. Notice how far right he is in that parking spot.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,372

    I am too- that’s me parked on the other side.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,383

    I am too- that’s me parked on the other side.

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    I thought that was you.

    Something tells me if there were a bunch of us guys in here in the same parking lot and we saw a parking spot like that, there just might be a fight to see who gets it.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,253
    tjc78 said:

    @nyccarguy
    Such a good option for you and your son. Safe, reliable and not a total wallet breaker.

    Hey gang… what is everyone’s thoughts on the new Santa Fe? Did Hyundai go too far this time?

    Some of them have very nice interiors.


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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,780
    edited August 2023
    Red Porsche 911 964 with Fuchs style wheels.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,407

    Red Porsche 911 964 with Fuchs style wheels.

    Not just Red, but Guards Red.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,780
    Nyc just missed out on this.
    Timing is everything.
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @explorerx4 said:
    Red Porsche 911 964 with Fuchs style wheels.

    What the Fuchs?

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    why would someone only put 1K miles per year on a Vibe?

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @stickguy said:
    why would someone only put 1K miles per year on a Vibe?

    Only driven to church every Sunday by a little old lady

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    tjc78 said:

    @nyccarguy
    Such a good option for you and your son. Safe, reliable and not a total wallet breaker.

    Hey gang… what is everyone’s thoughts on the new Santa Fe? Did Hyundai go too far this time?

    Big Chinese copycar vibe design-wise IMO, but they will have no problem selling them.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,202
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @explorerx4 said:

    Red Porsche 911 964 with Fuchs style wheels.

    What the Fuchs?


    Used to be the manufacturer of that style wheel.

    Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.

    I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492

    A local dealer put this on the lot yesterday- a 2016 SLK with 41k miles. My wife is in love:



    Sounds like the dark side is winning you guys over B)

    There was an AMG SLK (55) then, pretty rare.

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @kyfdx said:
    Used to be the manufacturer of that style wheel.

    Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.

    I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels.

    I know. It just sounded funny.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,202
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @kyfdx said:

    Used to be the manufacturer of that style wheel.

    Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.

    I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels.

    I know. It just sounded funny.


    Yeah.. now I see the joke...

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,372

    @jmonroe1 said:
    ————————————————
    I thought that was you.

    Something tells me if there were a bunch of us guys in here in the same parking lot and we saw a parking spot like that, there just might be a fight to see who gets it.

    jmonroe

    You bet!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,531

    @kyfdx said:
    @nyccarguy Does your son have his license, yet? Can't imagine it will only be $750/yr for insurance.

    Our Tacoma was $1800/yr for my son

    Yes. He has his license. I did online quotes with multiple companies. I finished up on the phone. I triple checked that all my coverages were correct. I called up to add the Tacoma to the policy and they made sure it all checks out. It’s the 4th car on the policy.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,407
    nyccarguy said:

    @kyfdx said:
    @nyccarguy Does your son have his license, yet? Can't imagine it will only be $750/yr for insurance.

    Our Tacoma was $1800/yr for my son

    Yes. He has his license. I did online quotes with multiple companies. I finished up on the phone. I triple checked that all my coverages were correct. I called up to add the Tacoma to the policy and they made sure it all checks out. It’s the 4th car on the policy.


    Not sure how it works in CT, but in CO our kids had to be "rated" on a car, if there were an equal number of cars and drivers.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,056

    Good comments on the Santa Fe. I think it will be a pretty big hit. My opinion is they went a little too far, but it’s no worse than what Ford did with the Flex.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,337
    edited August 2023
    Santa Fe--they are definitely making a statement. I'd consider one if it fit my wants and needs at the time. I also saw a new Palisade (or something) on my street, in pearl white paint with the bling grill, and mistook it for a Cadillac at first.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,531

    @Michaell said:
    Not sure how it works in CT, but in CO our kids had to be "rated" on a car, if there were an equal number of cars and drivers.

    A couple of the insurance companies asked me what car he would be driving. This company for whatever reason did not. Unless I did it automatically without asking. And just assigned them to the prelude because it is the oldest vehicle by far.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,752
    After chatting back and forth for a couple of days with an Ebay'er, he click the "buy it now" button and gave a deposit. Huh.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,383
    kyfdx said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    @explorerx4 said:

    Red Porsche 911 964 with Fuchs style wheels.

    What the Fuchs?

    Used to be the manufacturer of that style wheel.

    Why is it called a 911? Because that's what one wheel costs.

    I had an '84 Targa, with the same wheels.
    ————————————————
    I went to grade school (7th and 8th grade) with a kid named Fuchs. He came to the US from Germany when he was in 3rd grade. The family shoulda taken that opportunity to change their name. Oh well, a lifetime of, “what did you say your name is”. :(

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,847

    @qbrozen said:
    After chatting back and forth for a couple of days with an Ebay'er, he click the "buy it now" button and gave a deposit. Huh.

    Wait. You mean someone using eBay as intended? Can’t be right.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,847

    Does anyone here have any recommendations for decent budget all seasons? A family friend is on a really tight budget and needs new 16” tires for their Subaru Impreza. I seem to remember @qbrozen had become adept at finding great off brand tires.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,337
    Tire Rack has some Kumho Solus and General Altimax models on closeout right now.

    I really liked the Sumitomos that came on my Murano.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    The Altimax’s are always highly rated. Good tires.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,780
    I've had very good luck with General's.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,752

    Altimax would be good on a smallish car. Wasn’t a fan of them on our Honda Pilot but they were decent on my G35.

    I don’t like the Solus.

    Go to prioritytire.com.
    I don’t know all the dimensions you need but take a look at the Fullway HP108. Free to become a member and get better pricing.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,337
    Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."

    I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,605

    @corvette said:
    Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."

    I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.

    I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,752

    @corvette said:
    Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."

    I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.

    Because having a vehicle that is useful AND fast is the dream. I’d ask all of them why they want to compromise and fill only one function.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,372
    It sounds remarkably like a board I watch from time to time- there's a large contingent of miled-up appliance/penalty box owners, self-righteous luddites and geezers who hate the thought of owning an entertaining vehicle.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,337
    Agreed. The Maverick, especially with its steel wheels, is an excellent bargain "sleeper." Its cornering capability is decent for what it is, the ride quality is good, and the acceleration matches my parents' four year older Q5 (which cost about twice as much). Even within the Ford ecosystem, if you want the 2.0T powertrain, you're looking at either a very high trim level Escape or Bronco Sport, or a base model Edge, all of which hover around $40k MSRP.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,056

    @qbrozen said:
    Two 19.5” monitors and rearview cam installed this past weekend. Also a 1000w inverter installed under the front passenger seat (lots of metal cutting for that) and each monitor has an HDMI port in the wall near the 2nd and 4th rows of seats, respectively. This was all quite a lot of work.

    Looks factory. Nice upgrade for those long rides.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,780
    Just in time for vaca.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,253
    qbrozen said:

    Two 19.5” monitors and rearview cam installed this past weekend. Also a 1000w inverter installed under the front passenger seat (lots of metal cutting for that) and each monitor has an HDMI port in the wall near the 2nd and 4th rows of seats, respectively. This was all quite a lot of work.

    I think you’re all set for your new airport shuttle business.😂

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,253
    edited August 2023

    It sounds remarkably like a board I watch from time to time- there's a large contingent of miled-up appliance/penalty box owners, self-righteous luddites and geezers who hate the thought of owning an entertaining vehicle.

    Then again, there may be some Luddite geezers who splurge on an entertaining car to supplement their miled up penalty boxes. Kind of like being Clark Kent and occasionally Superman.


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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,383
    sda said:

    @corvette said:

    Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."

    I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.

    I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.

    ————————————————
    I’ve mentioned this before in another forum here at Edmunds:

    My first Genny was a 2009 with the V8 and it had something like 375 HP when using 93 octane gas and a measly 360 something HP when using RUG. I bought the car in April of 2009 and I had to have switched back and forth a couple dozen times trying to see if there was a difference in performance. I could barely tell the difference if there even was any.

    Fast forward to the first cold morning in November (temp in the 30’s) when I’m going to work. As I’m coming down the on ramp of the PA Turnpike to merge, I step on it like I’d done hundreds of times before and this time the car really took off, no doubt about it. That proved to me that cold air input provides more power than a few more octane points.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,253
    jmonroe1 said:

    sda said:

    @corvette said:

    Hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth on a Maverick-specific board when I posted my real-world results of premium vs. regular fuel: "How come you bought a truck, when you really want a racecar? Doing a "pull" in a truck is not what they are built for, and they suck at it as a result."

    I'm considering a Cobb Stage 1 tune, but need to to more research on it.

    I found the results between the two grades of fuel validating.

    ————————————————
    I’ve mentioned this before in another forum here at Edmunds:

    My first Genny was a 2009 with the V8 and it had something like 375 HP when using 93 octane gas and a measly 360 something HP when using RUG. I bought the car in April of 2009 and I had to have switched back and forth a couple dozen times trying to see if there was a difference in performance. I could barely tell the difference if there even was any.

    Fast forward to the first cold morning in November (temp in the 30’s) when I’m going to work. As I’m coming down the on ramp of the PA Turnpike to merge, I step on it like I’d done hundreds of times before and this time the car really took off, no doubt about it. That proved to me that cold air input provides more power than a few more octane points.

    jmonroe

    As built myMustang could use either 87 or premium with a 5% reduction in horsepower on 87. Why anyone would run 87 in a car like that always puzzled me and I always used premium.

    With the mild performance upgrades I did the car now requires 91+ which is fine by me as I want the performance. I’ll save money driving the Kia on 87 if I’m feeling cheap.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    My eco boost Maverick it made no practical difference since any change was at higher revs/boost where I generally did not go. Basically the extra speed was wasted since I never needed to use everything the base tune offered.

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