Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

I ran mine a month or 2 ago. IIRC it was a little below MSRP? Not that I was looking to sell.

corvette

I think Subaru has a $399/month lease available on the Solterra this month - first payment due at signing. That seems pretty solid, given the MSRP.

stickguy

that the electric? I don't think one of those is in the cards.

corvette

Yeah, low-ish range, not super competitive in its space (other than the fair lease).

fintail

A roundabout new car - a friend with I skate with in the winter just picked up a 24 Crosstrek. He chose it as per him, it was the only local dealer not playing ADM or mop 'n glo games with a car he actually wanted. I think it was just over 30K, so not totally loaded. Dark blue with grey interior IIRC. Not a chronic car buyer though, as it replaces a 300K mile 1990 Nissan pickup he bought new (he donated it). I think it's really to appease his wife, as their other car is an STi and I suspect this is more suited to a 65 year old woman (but the reactions from the young ones seeing her get out of the driver's seat must be amusing).

venture

corvette said:

Yeah, low-ish range, not super competitive in its space (other than the fair lease).

A sales guy said range is around 240 miles. I wonder how they are going to sell if it's only 240 miles?

The one I was looking at in the show room had the hood open and a Toyota sticker was on the underside of the hood.

kyfdx

If my wife or I had a 240 mile electric, we'd just take the other car, if we were going further than 100 miles from home.. That might happen 8 or 9 times/year. No sweat.

stickguy

Same. And maybe not that often! I rarely drive more than 100 miles in a week so we would not even have to plug in that often. It would be the perfect 2nd car for us to go along with the truck.

kyfdx

Spotted last night

breld

240 miles is about the range of my Polestar 2. And I'd generally charge it up to 90%. I never had any issues as my run-around-town vehicle, but I never had the desire to test out the charging network on a roadtrip.

Both the Q8 e-tron and my wife's Mach E are sub-300 miles on range. Again, totally fine for daily commuting.

But both of us have alternative ICE vehicles when needed.

andres3

stickguy said:

Return the house to RIte aid maybe?

Not quite sure I am following your logistics though. You can't get a mortgage if you didn't close on the house. They need to go together.

but if you signed papers and got the loan already, and somehow don't end up with the house, you still owe them the money.

I suppose you'd owe them an immediate payoff of the loan by giving them their money back plus a few days interest, of which the buyer should be sued for. But what if you just disappeared into a 3rd world country with the money?

stickguy

You would be like any other thief?

tifighter

@breld said:
240 miles is about the range of my Polestar 2. And I'd generally charge it up to 90%. I never had any issues as my run-around-town vehicle, but I never had the desire to test out the charging network on a roadtrip.

Both the Q8 e-tron and my wife's Mach E are sub-300 miles on range. Again, totally fine for daily commuting.

But both of us have alternative ICE vehicles when needed.

I’d take a 240 mile range EV that can use the supercharger network versus a 300 EV that couldn’t.

xwesx

Speaking of EV road trips, I was both surprised and pleased at the amount of expansion I saw in charging options, particularly on the remoter stretches of road, but I think we're still a long way from prime-time for being able to do my journey with an EV. I mean, one *could* do it, but it would be a much longer trip just waiting on the car to recharge in some areas.

roadburner

My Jeep dealer just received an off-lease 2021Sahara 4xe; every option but the tow group( ) and the power sunroof(which I definitely do not want). Boring white over black color combo but it's worth a look. I'd prefer a similarly equipped Rubicon(like the one that got away) but this one will work; I'm checking it out tomorrow.

nyccarguy

@roadburner - interesting, no blue tow hooks. Looks nice!

stickguy

You actually planning to tow with it?

roadburner

nyccarguy said:

@roadburner - interesting, no blue tow hooks. Looks nice!

I noticed that, I know some people don't like them.

roadburner

stickguy said:

You actually planning to tow with it?

I'd like to have the option in case I ever get a dedicated track rat or club racer- but it's not a deal breaker.

stickguy

Easy enough to add a hitch on one of these.

andres3

Sandman6472 said:

I'm still a bit in shock myself but maybe just maybe...it was meant to be. On my way home from work today, my tire icon came on. Now, I just bought three new tires on August 31st, so it couldn't be one of he new ones...could it? Turns out, it was my right rear, the old tire. Luckily I got off at 4:30 after eight hours, so went to my Tires Plus store. They found a long nail in the tire and said it couldn't be replaced. But somehow, I already knew that was coming.
So, now, have got four brand new tires, all of the same brand & tread. While there, got the 3-year alignment policy and they did the alignment. Since the wheel was crooked, I implored the guy who did it to make the steering wheel straight as I'm super anal about that which my sales guy agreed with! Car tracks straight now, he also had to adjust the rear caster, or camber...just not sure. Steering wheel is straight, so I'm a happy camper. In total, wasn't an expense I had planned on but that's part of life, these unexpected issues that we all must deal with. And I did, so now, we're all good!
Must be a sign from G-d up above that my time with the Golf isn't over yet. So, she stays in the garage for at least the next year. But, had an interesting talk with the better half about her next vehicle. She just hit 80K and he oil light came on again last Thursday where the Audi dealer again, topped it off. They looked at her last oil/filter change in May & have no clue why it uses so much oil & to where it's all going. So, I asked what she wants next. We talked about a bunch of small vehicles like we both have now. Mentioned all the available products out there & then I asked..."what about another A3"? And she said that's on the of of her list! I was surprised because all the little issues she's had but, she loves the size & wants exactly the same size next time. So, if I were a gambling man, which I'm not, I'd wager that there will be a 2025 Audi A3 on her side of the garage, eventually. Will definitely have her test drive all the smaller vehicles I picked, but it's her choice...and her pocketbook. Did let her know that there's been a pretty big price bump since we got her 2015 A3, but she said that's not an issue! Since we both buy our own vehicles, we don't tell the other what to buy or how much they can spend. So, am happy that she's got the personal funds to buy anything she wants. I know our situation might sound strange to most, but that's just the way things are. I get that her folks left her much more than my dad left me & am perfectly o k with that. Just a subject we don't discuss, ever & again, I'm fine with that!

Audi has improved the A3/S3 quite a lot since 2015. Test drive any 2017 model and newer and the difference might be immediately apparent. The TTS received those improvements in 2016 models, of which I'm a happy recipient.

andres3

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Won’t burning a lot of oil eventually ruin the catalytic converter? I can imagine that’s pretty pricey on an Audi.

Everything is pretty pricey on an Audi.

There are still some items that are not overpriced, but that applies to the more mainstream models, and perhaps my shop knowing which OEM equivalent manufacturer direct supplied parts save $$$ for the same part.

mjfloyd1

@roadburner said:
I noticed that, I know some people don't like them.

Neither of my 2021 4xe Saharas have blue tow hooks. They changed it mid stream apparently

explorerx4

A lot of times, the factory tow package has upgraded cooling and a bigger alternator, in addition to the hitch and wiring. On modern vehicles, things like trailer sway control.

breld

A local dealer has had this on their lot for a little while. Priced at about $4k over sticker (based on what I can tell of the equipment).

I'm not one of those who hates the styling, and I love the color.

https://www.automotive-imports.com/used/BMW/2023-BMW-M2-de30144d0a0e0a995e11ea719d1f1943.htm?utm_campaign=cars.com_deeplink&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=cars.com

roadburner

I don't hate the styling, but I don't think it looks anywhere as nice as the F87. As I've said before, it looks like the front and rear fascias were designed by Lego. If I get any M2, it will be an F87 CS.

oldfarmer50

Yesterday I had another woman complement my convertible. Even with the muddy cat paw prints across the hood. Maybe women like the old jelly bean style as opposed to the modern angular look or maybe it’s so old they think it’s something more exotic.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

Yesterday I had another woman complement my convertible. Even with the muddy cat paw prints across the hood. Maybe women like the old jelly bean style as opposed to the modern angular look or maybe it’s so old they think it’s something more exotic.

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Why should you care as long as you got some attention?

jmonroe

nyccarguy

News and notes. Regarding my Chronic Car Buying friend looking to unload his wife's Audi Q5: A few months back, my friend's Dad traded in his MB GLS 450 for a Genesis G90. He looked at a G70 back when his Dad got the G90 and liked it. They wanted a lot of money to lease it. So after going back and forth a lot with the Lexus dealer, he decided to go and test drive the Genesis 1 more time. Turns out the Genesis dealer has a friend who works at the VW store, which can buy out the Audi lease cheaper than the Genesis store can. So he's picking up the G70 today, with the bigger engine. White/White.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Yesterday I had another woman complement my convertible. Even with the muddy cat paw prints across the hood. Maybe women like the old jelly bean style as opposed to the modern angular look or maybe it’s so old they think it’s something more exotic.

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Why should you care as long as you got some attention?

jmonroe

Well, it’s not black Altima attention but I’ll take it.😌

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

White/White.

I'm frightened for him already!

laurasdada

Stickguy (et al?):
https://vitimb.com/used/BMW/2020-BMW-2+Series-8127490f0a0e0a923270a51a1fd47cc0.htm

stickguy

Nice. Just make it a different color combo, a 230, 20k fewer miles and $10k less money, and good to go!

Oh, RWD would be nice also. It’s never going to see snow.

tjc78

Broker I bought the truck through has an 80K Mercedes EQE 350 for $707 36/7.5 with first and broker fee DAS

Hmm….

ab348

tjc78 said:

Broker I bought the truck through has an 80K Mercedes EQE 350 for $707 36/7.5 with first and broker fee DAS

Hmm….

I gather they are not selling and are stacked up like cordwood in holding lots.

laurasdada

stickguy said:

Nice. Just make it a different color combo, a 230, 20k fewer miles and $10k less money, and good to go!

Oh, RWD would be nice also. It’s never going to see snow.

As long as you're not being particular...

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Broker I bought the truck through has an 80K Mercedes EQE 350 for $707 36/7.5 with first and broker fee DAS

Hmm….

Sedan or SUV?
RWD or AWD?

tjc78

SUV 4Matic

Does include $2500 rebate for affiliate employers which mine actually is.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

SUV 4Matic

Does include $2500 rebate for affiliate employers which mine actually is.

On top of the $7500 EV bonus.

There is $1000 dealer cash, too - I wonder how much "dealer contribution" is needed to get to that payment?

Still no sales tax on EVs in NJ?

tjc78

@Michaell said:
On top of the $7500 EV bonus.

There is $1000 dealer cash, too - I wonder how much "dealer contribution" is needed to get to that payment?

Still no sales tax on EVs in NJ?

Yes no tax

To get this payment it’s 13.25% off MSRP

tjc78

@ab348 said:
I gather they are not selling and are stacked up like cordwood in holding lots.

7 at my local dealer

28firefighter

@laurasdada - Nice car - mine's younger, AWD twin - but miles are a little dear for the year. No warranty.

@tjc78 - I forget what you're paying on the XC90 but that's a strong deal especially in a state like NJ. Do they still have the ChargeUp rebate you can apply for? Or is that only for in-state leases?

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Broker I bought the truck through has an 80K Mercedes EQE 350 for $707 36/7.5 with first and broker fee DAS

Hmm….

I wonder, what a low mile lease like that goes. for on a MachE performance. I’d never buy an EV but I might lease one with a sub 3 second 0-60.

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Broker I bought the truck through has an 80K Mercedes EQE 350 for $707 36/7.5 with first and broker fee DAS

Hmm….

I wonder, what a low mile lease like that goes. for on a MachE performance. I’d never buy an EV but I might lease one with a sub 3 second 0-60.

I noticed on the NFL game last night that Ford ran an ad for the Mach-E with a caption saying that dealers had inventories on their lots. This was not a local ad but on TSN, a national sports network. I don’t remember seeing anything like that in many years.

nyccarguy

tjc78 said:

@Michaell said:

On top of the $7500 EV bonus.

There is $1000 dealer cash, too - I wonder how much "dealer contribution" is needed to get to that payment?

Still no sales tax on EVs in NJ?

Yes no tax

To get this payment it’s 13.25% off MSRP

The no tax on EVs in NJ makes them a very compelling option.

My biggest issue with some of these high MSRP EVs and even PHEVs like my Wrangler is that cities and towns that charge property tax are valuing them at full MSRP. I just paid the property tax on my 4Xe. $955.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

Nice. Just make it a different color combo, a 230, 20k fewer miles and $10k less money, and good to go!

Oh, RWD would be nice also. It’s never going to see snow.

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Since you’re so close to being in love with it, why not take a test drive. You might be able to add to your list.

jmonroe

tjc78

@28firefighter said:
@laurasdada - Nice car - mine's younger, AWD twin - but miles are a little dear for the year. No warranty.

@tjc78 - I forget what you're paying on the XC90 but that's a strong deal especially in a state like NJ. Do they still have the ChargeUp rebate you can apply for? Or is that only for in-state leases?

We are at $620 for the XC with about two tanks of premium a month. I figure it is a wash. It is also cheaper than a comparable XC90 lease right now.

I have zero idea on the ChargeUp. Will have to look into it.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

@28firefighter said:
@laurasdada - Nice car - mine's younger, AWD twin - but miles are a little dear for the year. No warranty.

@tjc78 - I forget what you're paying on the XC90 but that's a strong deal especially in a state like NJ. Do they still have the ChargeUp rebate you can apply for? Or is that only for in-state leases?

We are at $620 for the XC with about two tanks of premium a month. I figure it is a wash. It is also cheaper than a comparable XC90 lease right now.

I have zero idea on the ChargeUp. Will have to look into it.

What would it cost - if anything - to get chargers installed at the primary and beach houses?

stickguy

@jmonroe1 said:
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Since you’re so close to being in love with it, why not take a test drive. You might be able to add to your list.

jmonroe

I do want to find one to test drive. Unfortunately that is many hours away in those island!

I found one in my specs local (BMW 1/2 hour from me) but when I called about the listing it was already sold. Very hard to find around here.

roadburner

tjc78 said:

7 at my local dealer

8 between all 4 KY dealers...