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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,349
    edited April 2011

    The Mazda salesman who sold us our CX-7 specifically said that if you buy a MazdaSpeed 3, to get winter tires and wheels as the OEM's are crap in the winter.

    I'm sure that roadburner can confirm.


    The Mazdaspeed(along with Sport Package/M BMWs, the GTI, and numerous other performance cars) come equippedwith summer tires. They are designed for maximum grip in +40F temps. My MS3 runs Pirell PZero All Season tires in the winter and I have a set of 2010 MS3 wheels for my summer rubber.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    I just drive in too much traffic for stick shifts.

    I certainly understand that, I hate traffic here with a manual trans. My car is the only automatic in the stable, the other 3 are all manuals.

    My son came home today saying his car was being a pain and kept stalling. I took it out and filled the tank up.....found out the gas gauge is about 1/4 of a tank off, meaning the poor car was on E and said it had 1/4 of a tank. I told the kid to fill it up every 225 miles or so and don't trust what the car says it has. I checked the fuel economy and 29.6 mpg around the city with a new driver isn't too bad.

    I'm just glad he is content with a manual and so far hasn't asked for the keys to the Pilot.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    Our desire to do more work on the house is one reason that we have slowed down our chronic car buying.

    I'm not near as chronic as some of you guys and gals, but I think that's one reason I'm in no rush to buy anything, either. My next project around the house, though, is adding onto the garage!

    I gotta admit though, this 2008 Altima kinda caught my eye. 2.5S model with a sunroof, 31K miles, for $16,888. Same dealer has brand-new ones similarly equipped for around $21K. However, I do like that green, and I don't think they offer it anymore.

    And while the new ones aren't THAT much more (guess I'm just used to domestic-car depreciation), that $4,000 difference can buy a lot of gasoline!
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    I hate to ask but how goes the DeSoto?
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    I hate to ask but how goes the DeSoto?

    Very, very slowly. The mechanic hasn't asked for any money lately, and I've been kinda tight in the cash flow situation, so I've been a bit reluctant to call him for a progress report!

    And hopefully I get the carport addition put on the garage before the DeSoto comes home! The DeSoto will actually go in the garage, but it's going to kick my '79 5th Ave out.

    Of course, I guess I could always just clean the garage out, so that I can get four cars in it! :blush:
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Of course, I guess I could always just clean the garage out, so that I can get four cars in it!

    Let's not get drastic now....
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    It seems the love of my life....I mean of my automotive life..., the 330xi, is back in the shop and this time its a real doozy. The car is bogging down on the highway such that I have no power when pressing the gas pedal until I floor it and force it to kick down into panic mode. We have replaced the fuel pump, fuel filter, Mass Airflow Meter, DISA Valve, lower and upper intake boots and a whole slew of other parts.

    It has been in twice now, first time for a week and a half, and now going on 4 days as of today for the same issue with the mechanic. No other mechanic in town will touch the problem, as it is over their head and they said to take it to where it is now or to a BMW dealer.

    I'm at a complete loss, and at this point am running out of both patience and time to spend on it. My eyes are starting to wander, thats for sure.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    Could it be a camshaft or crankshaft position sensor causing that? I had one of those (don't know which, because I had them both replaced at the same time) go bad on my 2000 Intrepid. When it failed, sometimes it would just flat-out stall the car, and I'd have to throw it into neutral and re-start. But sometimes, on the highway, I could feel it coming on. It would start to sputter, and lose power, but wouldn't quite die, and if I started pumping the gas pedal, sometimes could keep it from totally dying.

    I know that doesn't sound exactly like the problem you described, but it still might be worth looking into those two sensors.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    CPS' have been checked and had good ones swapped in, with no change. That was on the top of my list of things to suggest when he couldn't come up with anything.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • samm43samm43 Member Posts: 195
    Sorry to hear.

    Have they confirmed that the fuel tank vent is working properly?

    Sam
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,420
    I know if it was me, at the first opportunity that baby would be sent on down the road for something new.

    Once a car passes into the untrustworthy stage, it is going, going gone.

    even quicker if it is my wife's car. If it craps out and strands her, she probably will never drive it again, unless it is clearly a total fluke unlikely to ever happen again. Even that will only buy a little time until we get out looking!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    The problem with getting rid of it, is that I cannot sell nor trade it right now with a clear head. It has no lights and likely driving it around town would not reveal the problem, but I would have to live with knowing the dealer would likely not fix the issue, and someone might be hurt by it.

    I want to get rid of it, and very well might, but then the question is - what do I replace it with? I would want something with warranty (CPO or New), bluetooth, satellite radio and at least FWD. Also maybe something with a shred of reliability. Budget would likely be 15k-16k.

    Thoughts?
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I know if it was me, at the first opportunity that baby would be sent on down the road for something new.

    Once a car passes into the untrustworthy stage, it is going, going gone.

    even quicker if it is my wife's car. If it craps out and strands her, she probably will never drive it again, unless it is clearly a total fluke unlikely to ever happen again. Even that will only buy a little time until we get out looking!


    So, why is it that I'm the only person here who gets grief when this happens to me?

    28ff, I'm sorry to hear about the problems you are having. Sucks not being able to drive a car you truly want to own because it is unreliable, and, having a conscience about trading it in or selling it because the problems may not be addressed for the next owner.

    Truly a difficult situation. However, I'm sure those of us here can help you spend your money for a new ride. Might I suggest a Ford Fiesta? I think they can be equipped with BT.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    I'm with you 100% in terms of your wife. Right now, my fiancee doesn't want to even ride in it, because she is concerned it will leave us stranded. She has good cause, it has already happened once and it lives in the shop.

    This was really one of my dream cars, but it has become a nightmare to own. It really isn't even the money as that hasn't been so bad. It is the constant need for the shop.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    I'm not sure of all the years that the 2.5 has serious potentially catastrophic problems (such as the pre-cat failing and shooting metal back into the engine), so tread carefully here.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    edited April 2011
    You can always donate the car to a worthy charity of your choice. They wholesale it and give you a tax deduction based on what they recieved. The Fiesta should be on your list, but the best buy is a 2011 Focus SEL with leather -roof -etc. Big rebates -- around 17k. If you don't need leather than an SE is less than 15k --- brand new all current safety and full warranty. [Check truecar.com]
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    So, why is it that I'm the only person here who gets grief when this happens to me?

    Because when it's your car it gets fixed but when it's your wife's car (or your daughter's for that matter) it gets replaced.

    Actually in my book you are doing the right thing - but it's fun to tease. Sorry.....
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,308
    All the reports I've heard are on the last-generation Altima (2002-2006). I also owned one of those, and didn't have the problem. On top of that, there was a problem with some sort of butterfly valve in the intake coming unscrewed. I haven't heard any reports of these problems with the current generation (2007 and newer) model. The factory powertrain warranty is 5 years/60,000 miles, and the CVT has a 10 year, 120,000 mile warranty that's fully transferable to the next owner.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    hmmm, maybe I'll have to come to the dark side next time, and buy "furrin". Although with something like 65% domestic content, I guess an Altima isn't really all that much "furrin"!

    And, the Park Ave is getting up in miles. Hit 70,000 today! :P
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,420
    here you go. I love the color. car too. Price, ditto.

    miles though, not sure about them, but it is a stick so no big worries!

    http://www.paulburnfamilydealerships.com/used/BMW/2000-BMW-5+Series-7dffc5610a0a- 006400eee839fc1e15c6.htm

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    Thanks, stick. But I don't have that kind of money for a 5th car. Plus, no black leather for me again.

    I've seen plenty slightly older models with lower miles being advertised for less than $5k. That's more where my focus would be, if I were to do it, that is.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    My impulsive friend who wants a Fiat 500 called me all excited this morning, saying his local dealer is supposed to get the first cabrios next month, and one will be in the color combo he wants. I think he'll jump at it.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,308
    Your four cylinder BMW has arrived:

    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2011/04/2012-bmw-z4-to-offer-four-cylinder-po- wertrain.html

    The power output from a 2.0 liter kicks Audi's butt, too.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Send him over here. We'll get him done.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Plus, no black leather for me again

    Me either. I guess I didn't think the whole black leather/interior through very well. Its HORRIBLE to keep clean, shows everything, and now that winter is over its HOT.

    Back to light colored interiors I go......eventually. Pilot only has 5100 miles on it, have to keep it a while longer, probably a year or two.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    Me either. I guess I didn't think the whole black leather/interior through very well. Its HORRIBLE to keep clean, shows everything, and now that winter is over its HOT.


    I used to have a '68 Dodge Dart that was originally white, but was primer-black by the time I got ahold of it. It had white seats, which were pretty thoroughly trashed, so I swapped in the black seats from wrecked '69 Dart I had. Bad move. Oh, and the thing had an aftemarket sunroof on it, so that black on black with a sunroof was a perfect storm for overheating yourself on a hot summer day! thankfully, if you rolled all four windows down, flipped open the vent windows, opened the sunroof, and opened the little vent doors under the dash, it cooled down pretty quickly. And after about a year and a half, I repainted that car back to its original white, which helped alot.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,420
    I said never again too. it would have to be a hell of a deal on a used car to make me do it again.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,378
    I don't really have any issues with it.... For a BMW, it's a lot better than the other standard leather color (Sand)...

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,985
    IMO the best combo is light seats/headliner etc with dark carpets. This combo makes it easier to keep clean and the dark floors don't seem to heat the car up too much.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    OK, now y'all got me a bit concerned, since the CX-7 has a black leather interior.

    We'll see if the wifey complains when summer rolls around ... and, before anyone makes a crack (I'm lookin' at you, fezo), no, it won't mean that it'll get traded in.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,985
    I'm a "no black interior person" but mainly for the look and the fact that it shows every little spec. Yes, it is a touch hotter, but honestly IMO the exterior color has more to do with interior temp than the interior color. My Grandfather's car is white over black and its no worse to get into on a hot day that my burgundy car with ivory interior.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I'm a "no black interior person" but mainly for the look and the fact that it shows every little spec.

    Got it .. and yes, I do agree with you. After only a couple of months, there are quite a number of scuffs on the lower part of the interior that I'd love to remove.

    I'm leery of using Armor-All -- does anyone have a suggestion for a product to use on the plastic surfaces of the interior?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited April 2011
    Armor All was reformulated umpteen years ago. I like 303 Protectant myself though. Usually just use a slightly damp cloth.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,985
    NO ARMOR ALL..... ever! That stuff causes more problems than good! +1 on 303, haven't used it in a while but only hear good stuff about it.

    For leather, IMO Lexol wins hands down (both the cleaner and the protectant) not cheap 9-10 bucks a bottle but worth it and it lasts.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Oh, you're no fun....

    That black interior probably really looks great though.

    I have found a gray interior to be nice for the same reason a silver exterior works - doesn't show dirt.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    My '67 Catalina is pale yellow with a black interior, and it can get pretty brutal on a hot day. However, the convertible top is black, which probably has a lot to do with it. I wonder if a white top would make much difference? I don't think the white would go as well with the body color as black does, though. And I just had that top done about 2 1/2 years ago, so I want to get my money's worth out of it!
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Besides, you do not want to be dealing with a white convertible top. What a pain THAT would be to clean!
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,985
    I agree, I like cars with convertible tops that either match the interior or body color. I just think it looks better that way.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    Like someone else said, I'm not against black for the heat problems. I mean, black leather still doesn't compare to the brutality of black vinyl, in my experience. But, anyway, my issue is more with keeping it clean (like black paint). My Alfa, BMW, and Infiniti never looked really clean to me, no matter what I did. OK, maybe for like 10 seconds after cleaning... but then the dust settles. Ugh.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    No black leather for me either --- funny thin is -- when I was 18 it never occurred to me to pay attention to dark colors and heat. Played baseball all day in the summer in a black t-shirt. Not on the radar. Other stuff on my mind I suppose.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Sold the Camry today after less than a week on the market. Sold it for $19,000. Now we get to hunt down a replacement.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,349
    I'm optimistic about the new fours; I like smaller and more efficient engines, but I hope it has a sporting power curve...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,349
    Vinylex is another good product. Meguiars makes some good protectants as well.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Thanks for the interior cleaning / protectant suggestions - I'll take a look at both the 303 and Meguiar's brands.

    rb - I, too, am interested in the small turbo 4-cyl that BMW will be introducing. With approximately 20-30 more HP than the Audi / VW turbo 4, it should provide more oomph. But, I wonder if mileage will be the same.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I'd forgotten about Vinylex but I've heard good stuff about it. And it was cheaper than 303 last I looked.

    I think Armor All's rep isn't deserved since they got rid of the slick formulation and it's usually easier to find. But a bit of 303 lasts me for years since I rarely detail my cars anyway. My Lexol stuff must be 20 years old now. :blush:
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,511
    What year was it? How many miles did you have on it? How much were you asking for it?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,985
    I think Armor All's rep isn't deserved

    The problem isn't the "slickness" the problem is the silicones they use can tend to dry out the vinyl and cause cracking.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited April 2011
    Yeah, but those have supposedly been gone for a decade or more now. That's what made it slick.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,930
    We dropped off our 328xi for some service this morning and they offered a new Z4 as a loaner. So tempting, but I thought we may need the loaner overnight (which it turns out that we do), and I need something that will accomodate car seats for the kids. Bummer.

    I'll second the use of Vinylex - I've been using that for years along with the rest of the Lexol products.

    And I have black leather in my CX-9 and have no complaints about it.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,930
    Roaming the lots while picking up our 328, I really like this:

    link title

    Not too many wagons around with the sports package. It was in pretty decent shape; miles were decent. If it were a manual (which is a big if), I may have just bought it.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

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