How deep are their pockets? If my aftermarket shocks fail and I hit the wall, I want my heirs to be able to collect.
As far as work getting farmed out to a "supplier", who has access to and provides the specs of all the chassis parts? Bilstein/Koni or Mazda/Ford?
It's all a bit academic to me - Sir Stirling's current skills would easily surpass my reflexes even if I were still 20 and I was in a Speed3 and he was in a '69 VW Bug.
@stever said:
As far as work getting farmed out to a "supplier", who has access to and provides the specs of all the chassis parts? Bilstein/Koni or Mazda/Ford?
It is almost always a joint effort; if it was just a matter of having the supplier build a shock to a certain spec, why wouldn't the OEM simply go with the cheapest supplier?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
speaking of suspension, I had the Volvo to the tire/brake place I use. No surprise, they said the control arms are perfectly fine for the forseable future. One strut was leaking, but they still seemed to work OK. overall the front end was not doing anything out of the ordinary. So, while of course new would not hurt, it also wasn't a must do any time soon.
stopped at a 2nd place I go to, just to price compare. He also said if I was selling soon (hope to!) to not bother if it is driving fine. Not shake on the highway, tracks straight, so no problems. Rides like a buckboard over potholes and bad pavement, but probably did that from the factory.
I just hate to sell a car knowing it has some kind of needs, but I doubt I would see my money back. They seem to think the S40 is a Porsche, since the lowest estimate (just the fronts) was $900. I priced parts on rock auto, and all seem to be about 1/2 of what they priced out.
need to check a couple of other places. Too bad I don't have an old school backyard mechanic type to bring everything to. If I could get the front end all refreshed for $500 or less, I probably would (hoping to recoup it on the sale), but for 1K, it seems fine to me!
$900 for the fronts? Wow, that's pretty close to what I paid for the FSD install- and that was for all four corners plus new OEM strut mounts, strut bearings, bump stops, and dust boots as well as an alignment...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@roadburner said:
It is almost always a joint effort;
Suppliers have expertise, hopefully, in their area. The manufacturer has the last say on price, specs, the cars, the track time, engineering oversight, and relationships with other suppliers who can tweak, say, a different suspension part and overnight it for testing. The OEM supplier making a part is a cog in this process and may not have access to the whole picture. I don't know what the non-OEM is going to rely on - reverse engineering and maybe some track time in one or two donor cars?
@stickguy said:
Rides like a buckboard over potholes and bad pavement, but probably did that from the factory.
My G6 always felt unsettled driving over a set of railroad tracks I regularly cross (the suspension felt fine in most other situations, though). The Altima, 540i, and GLI didn't have the same issue. The GLI has enough engine braking that I don't even have to step on the brakes to cross the tracks comfortably. Just take your foot off the gas and coast across!
Konis and Bilsteins almost always sell at a premium compared to the OEM dampers, so I guess that they actually are better than the OEM pieces or else they are pulling off an extremely lucrative scam. Granted, any choice is extremely platform dependent, for example, FSDs seem to work better on some cars than others. That said, I sincerely doubt that Koni and Bilstein would have survived-never mind have the reputation they have today-if they developed their products in such a limited and haphazard manner as you suggest.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@roadburner, don't you love spending your career working in an adversarial system and then coming to a car forum to enjoy your downtime where no one is argumentative?
In other news, saw my old Subaru outside a bar last night. It's starting to need a wash and the antenna is really bent out of whack. I guess the bloom is off the rose. I'm still hoping to bug out of the UP before the head gasket goes.
So I've been snooping around online & found that I can buy NEW OEM Prelude Springs (from the base model) & then a set of the Bilsteins might really work well for me.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Curbstoners are a huge problem buying and selling on CL. Could you possibly use a contact at your old dealership & tell them what you are looking for? Maybe they'll give you a shout when a trade comes in that they are planning on sending to auction. Or maybe you could go with the UCM to an auction?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Curbstoners are a huge problem buying and selling on CL. Could you possibly use a contact at your old dealership & tell them what you are looking for? Maybe they'll give you a shout when a trade comes in that they are planning on sending to auction. Or maybe you could go with the UCM to an auction?
Buying from my old store would be a lot of hassle. They would insist on running the car through the shop and doing an inspection for their own protection. Who knows what they would find and insist on fixing. They would also insist on making some kind of a profit for their trouble. I really can't blame them for that. Eventually, the right car will pop up. I just have to beat the curbstoners if that's possible. Some of these curbstoners are, well, tough people to deal with if you know what I mean.
I just have to beat the curbstoners if that's possible. Some of these curbstoners are, well, tough people to deal with if you know what I mean.
When you say “beat the curbstoners”, do you mean “get there before they do”?
Tough people to deal with
Not sure where you’re coming from here. Yes, if you’re looking to buy on Craigslist, they do waste your time. But they are pretty easy to eliminate. Ask him how long he’s owned the car. If he doesn’t answer directly, ask him, “Do you or do you not have a clean, clear Texas title in your hand, naming you as the owner of this car?” (Substituting your state for Texas).
Do this up front, in the first conversation (either via email, text or phone). Never schedule a meeting before you have received a satisfactory answer to that question.
Of course, I am WELL aware of all of those things and what questions to ask.
With all of the flakes and curbstoners I have had to ferret through probably twenty possibilities.
One legit guy told me that he wouldn't be available that afternoon or evening to show me the car he was selling so we arranged to meet the following morning at 10:00 in a nearby Target parking lot. I got there ten minutes early and as I waited in my car he called me letting me know he had sold the car the previous evening. Nice, huh?
One of my first questions....
" How long have you owned this car?"
" Oh, I bought it for my daughter but she thinks it's too big"
" So, did you register the title in your name?"
" Ah....no...I decided not to bother since I knew we weren't keeping it"
Thanks for the kind comments.. I drove it all day, yesterday, while my son was at work. Which was probably my last chance. It's very nice, and he is ecstatic..
So all the "mounting parts" for shocks and springs on a "base" and "type SH" Prelude are the same. I found some differences in the front suspensions. Can somebody take a look at this and tell me whether or not any of this would make a difference to how the springs and shocks mount?
Those certainly look like totally different front setups, if the diagrams are reliable. They don't, however, show mounting points. The front is a strut setup, correct? The shocks/struts themselves very likely wouldn't matter (meaning they'd be the same length in both models). The only thing I'd possibly be concerned about is the spring length and width. But I can't imagine they changed anything THAT drastically based on trim level. But you never know, I guess.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I got the diagrams from a Honda Dealer's website. I called and spoke to the one of the parts' guys. He seemed knowledgeable. We both confirmed that the "Shock Absorber Mounting Base" are the same as well as the other hardware.
The Spring Length is the difference from what I've read on various Prelude Specific forums. That's why (according to what I've read) guys either swap out the stock suspension for a coil over setup or they put Shocks/Struts & Springs from a BASE model on a TYPE SH.
I'm more than happy with the stock ride height. Most aftermarket Springs are going to drop the car 1.4" or so. So that's why I'm thinking Bilsteins with Stock springs (from a BASE model).
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Still rides well & handles decent. I notice a lot of "diving" under even moderate braking and more body roll than I'm used to (even with the Suspension Techniques anti-roll bars I installed years ago).
Now this could be a combination of 2 things: 1 - the car needs new shocks & struts because it has almost 153K miles on the originals (and 12 years). and 2 - I've been driving my BMW for the last 2 plus years and it has skewed my perceptions because it is "that good."
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
its really very likely it doesn't need springs. I would suggest shocks/struts and check out all the bushings and mounts. If you have original rubber in there, I'm sure its way past its shelf life.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
@qbrozen said:
its really very likely it doesn't need springs. I would suggest shocks/struts and check out all the bushings and mounts. If you have original rubber in there, I'm sure its way past its shelf life.
Just change the shocks -- it should give you a much improved ride without messing with the springs. I swapped out the oem's on my Jeep for Bilsteins and my son did the same for his Durango. We both really liked the change.
I agree with the struts/bushings idea. I also figured that getting into springs was if you wanted to really changed the car (lower it, radically change the handling). Odds are good that just the struts and attachment points will make it pretty much "like new".
What a beaut! A dent in almost every body panel and missing interior trim, including the driver's door panel. I wonder whether the Powerball ticket in the console is included?
@kyfdx said:
Thanks for the kind comments.. I drove it all day, yesterday, while my son was at work. Which was probably my last chance. It's very nice, and he is ecstatic..
To be fair, some things changed with my wife's ex since we bought the TT, whereby her son is staying almost exclusively with us now, so the challenges with the TT and its diminutive size increased. But the honest truth is I think she/we underestimated the challenges with her having what is essentially a two-seater (the coupe does have backseats, but you can imagine how useful they are).
In fact, she was driving the Odyssey a lot and even suggested that we "upgrade" it to a newer one and that could be her car. Now, I wouldn't mind a nicer van, but I just said it would never stick - that a van would not be her main car for long.
No, I wasn't actually kidding. always a risk getting something funky like that. I learned that lesson when I got the Scion tC when it first came out. Well, it never did work that well having to transport 2 kids all over.
now that I am essentially kidless (car wise), 2 doors is no big deal.
Sorry for the delayed reply....been out of town for the weekend.
I did make a punch, picked up a Silver 2014 Fusion Titanium Energi on Friday. I haven't had much time to play with it but the little I've driven it so far I've been impressed. I have it fully charged now, 22 miles and will take it to the airport in the morning (about 14 miles) and they'll charge it for me before I get back, so we'll see how it really performs.
My next new round of vehicles . All these new safety features are a must. Forward crash warning system, front, side and back laser guided braking systems, lane watch etc.. Features like these will save yours and your family's life in the event.. You see how these animals drive here in NY.
WORTH............. every Penney in my eyes. My vehicles have some of the new safety tech. but not the cross traffic and braking systems.
I mostly got these on the Q50 as toys but I've come to love them. Especially the "Moving Object Detection" which is useful when backing out of parking spaces.
They definitely aren't substitutes for safe/smart driving but I can see how they make for a safer drive overall. Crashes happen so quickly that I can see how the few tenth of a second where the car starts braking before I could even get a foot off the accelerator might make all the difference.
Just saw a commercial for the legacy touting the eyesight gizmo. Starting to think I would really like that feature. the blind spot monitoring looks neat.
especially if my daughter is going to be using the car. doubly so if she is going to ever drive it down the NC through DC on 95. The more help with that, the better. heck, at this point, I need all the help I can get on that drive!
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How deep are their pockets? If my aftermarket shocks fail and I hit the wall, I want my heirs to be able to collect.
As far as work getting farmed out to a "supplier", who has access to and provides the specs of all the chassis parts? Bilstein/Koni or Mazda/Ford?
It's all a bit academic to me - Sir Stirling's current skills would easily surpass my reflexes even if I were still 20 and I was in a Speed3 and he was in a '69 VW Bug.
kyfdx....very cool punch. 'Gratz!
It is almost always a joint effort; if it was just a matter of having the supplier build a shock to a certain spec, why wouldn't the OEM simply go with the cheapest supplier?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
speaking of suspension, I had the Volvo to the tire/brake place I use. No surprise, they said the control arms are perfectly fine for the forseable future. One strut was leaking, but they still seemed to work OK. overall the front end was not doing anything out of the ordinary. So, while of course new would not hurt, it also wasn't a must do any time soon.
stopped at a 2nd place I go to, just to price compare. He also said if I was selling soon (hope to!) to not bother if it is driving fine. Not shake on the highway, tracks straight, so no problems. Rides like a buckboard over potholes and bad pavement, but probably did that from the factory.
I just hate to sell a car knowing it has some kind of needs, but I doubt I would see my money back. They seem to think the S40 is a Porsche, since the lowest estimate (just the fronts) was $900. I priced parts on rock auto, and all seem to be about 1/2 of what they priced out.
need to check a couple of other places. Too bad I don't have an old school backyard mechanic type to bring everything to. If I could get the front end all refreshed for $500 or less, I probably would (hoping to recoup it on the sale), but for 1K, it seems fine to me!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
$900 for the fronts? Wow, that's pretty close to what I paid for the FSD install- and that was for all four corners plus new OEM strut mounts, strut bearings, bump stops, and dust boots as well as an alignment...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Suppliers have expertise, hopefully, in their area. The manufacturer has the last say on price, specs, the cars, the track time, engineering oversight, and relationships with other suppliers who can tweak, say, a different suspension part and overnight it for testing. The OEM supplier making a part is a cog in this process and may not have access to the whole picture. I don't know what the non-OEM is going to rely on - reverse engineering and maybe some track time in one or two donor cars?
My G6 always felt unsettled driving over a set of railroad tracks I regularly cross (the suspension felt fine in most other situations, though). The Altima, 540i, and GLI didn't have the same issue. The GLI has enough engine braking that I don't even have to step on the brakes to cross the tracks comfortably. Just take your foot off the gas and coast across!
Konis and Bilsteins almost always sell at a premium compared to the OEM dampers, so I guess that they actually are better than the OEM pieces or else they are pulling off an extremely lucrative scam. Granted, any choice is extremely platform dependent, for example, FSDs seem to work better on some cars than others. That said, I sincerely doubt that Koni and Bilstein would have survived-never mind have the reputation they have today-if they developed their products in such a limited and haphazard manner as you suggest.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@roadburner, don't you love spending your career working in an adversarial system and then coming to a car forum to enjoy your downtime where no one is argumentative?
In other news, saw my old Subaru outside a bar last night. It's starting to need a wash and the antenna is really bent out of whack. I guess the bloom is off the rose. I'm still hoping to bug out of the UP before the head gasket goes.
So I've been snooping around online & found that I can buy NEW OEM Prelude Springs (from the base model) & then a set of the Bilsteins might really work well for me.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
@kyfdx
So it's official? Mazel-Tov & congratulations on the E36 ///M3 Punch!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
@isellhondas
Curbstoners are a huge problem buying and selling on CL. Could you possibly use a contact at your old dealership & tell them what you are looking for? Maybe they'll give you a shout when a trade comes in that they are planning on sending to auction. Or maybe you could go with the UCM to an auction?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Or, move to Fla.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/4566727699.html
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4550990523.html
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Buying from my old store would be a lot of hassle. They would insist on running the car through the shop and doing an inspection for their own protection. Who knows what they would find and insist on fixing. They would also insist on making some kind of a profit for their trouble. I really can't blame them for that. Eventually, the right car will pop up. I just have to beat the curbstoners if that's possible. Some of these curbstoners are, well, tough people to deal with if you know what I mean.
Son's new car...
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When you say “beat the curbstoners”, do you mean “get there before they do”?
Not sure where you’re coming from here. Yes, if you’re looking to buy on Craigslist, they do waste your time. But they are pretty easy to eliminate. Ask him how long he’s owned the car. If he doesn’t answer directly, ask him, “Do you or do you not have a clean, clear Texas title in your hand, naming you as the owner of this car?” (Substituting your state for Texas).
Do this up front, in the first conversation (either via email, text or phone). Never schedule a meeting before you have received a satisfactory answer to that question.
Congrats on the M3, it looks great!
I just love that color!
Henry, you are preaching to the choir!
Of course, I am WELL aware of all of those things and what questions to ask.
With all of the flakes and curbstoners I have had to ferret through probably twenty possibilities.
One legit guy told me that he wouldn't be available that afternoon or evening to show me the car he was selling so we arranged to meet the following morning at 10:00 in a nearby Target parking lot. I got there ten minutes early and as I waited in my car he called me letting me know he had sold the car the previous evening. Nice, huh?
One of my first questions....
" How long have you owned this car?"
" Oh, I bought it for my daughter but she thinks it's too big"
" So, did you register the title in your name?"
" Ah....no...I decided not to bother since I knew we weren't keeping it"
Or....
" Oh, I'm selling it for a friend"
My search continues...
Nice!!!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@kyfdx
LOVE IT!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
'@kyfdx said: Son's new car...'
Looks very nice!
Currently not a BMW driver.......
Thanks for the kind comments.. I drove it all day, yesterday, while my son was at work. Which was probably my last chance. It's very nice, and he is ecstatic..
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I hope he takes care of it. seems a shame (heck, also a risk) to DD that car, especially in winter in the midwest.
now, for my spare toy car getting 1-2K/year in nice weather? Sure!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
@kyfdx
I feel better about your son driving that '95 M3 with over 205K than I would have him driving that Saabaru I looked at for you 2 years ago.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Oooohhhhhh....me like it....very much! Good job.
More on new shocks & springs for my Prelude:
So all the "mounting parts" for shocks and springs on a "base" and "type SH" Prelude are the same. I found some differences in the front suspensions. Can somebody take a look at this and tell me whether or not any of this would make a difference to how the springs and shocks mount?
BASE PRELUDE
http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3.php?d=fbcca&i=00775556274104040312171516171010741547&t=1405345464&make=honda
TYPE SH PRELUDE
http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3.php?d=fbcca&i=00775556274104040212171516171010761141&t=1405345622&make=honda
Thanks so much guys! I appreciate everyone's help & input.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Those certainly look like totally different front setups, if the diagrams are reliable. They don't, however, show mounting points. The front is a strut setup, correct? The shocks/struts themselves very likely wouldn't matter (meaning they'd be the same length in both models). The only thing I'd possibly be concerned about is the spring length and width. But I can't imagine they changed anything THAT drastically based on trim level. But you never know, I guess.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
7 owners and a salvage title. Lemme grab my checkbook!!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
More suspension diagrams:
TYPE SH Front Suspension: http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3.php?d=fbcca&i=0077555627410b05031217151617111474104a&t=1405351439&make=honda
TYPS SH Rear Suspension: http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3.php?d=fbcca&i=00775556274003050312171516171114751241&t=1405351512&make=honda
BASE Front: http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3.php?d=fbcca&i=0077555627410b050312171516171114751442&t=1405351571&make=honda
BASE Rear: http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3.php?d=fbcca&i=00775556274003050312171516171114761243&t=1405351610&make=honda
All of the mounting hardware for the springs/shocks/struts have the same part number.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
well, yeah, its the exact same diagram for each. If that source is to be trusted.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
NYC, doesn't the honda dealer sell this stuff? Ask at their parts department to see what is the same.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I got the diagrams from a Honda Dealer's website. I called and spoke to the one of the parts' guys. He seemed knowledgeable. We both confirmed that the "Shock Absorber Mounting Base" are the same as well as the other hardware.
The Spring Length is the difference from what I've read on various Prelude Specific forums. That's why (according to what I've read) guys either swap out the stock suspension for a coil over setup or they put Shocks/Struts & Springs from a BASE model on a TYPE SH.
I'm more than happy with the stock ride height. Most aftermarket Springs are going to drop the car 1.4" or so. So that's why I'm thinking Bilsteins with Stock springs (from a BASE model).
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Does it ride poorly or has the handling degraded? Tires wearing funny? If not, why mess?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Still rides well & handles decent. I notice a lot of "diving" under even moderate braking and more body roll than I'm used to (even with the Suspension Techniques anti-roll bars I installed years ago).
Now this could be a combination of 2 things: 1 - the car needs new shocks & struts because it has almost 153K miles on the originals (and 12 years). and 2 - I've been driving my BMW for the last 2 plus years and it has skewed my perceptions because it is "that good."
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
so, there is a simple, cheap solution. Drive the pilot for a while, and then the Lude will feel like a race car again!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
its really very likely it doesn't need springs. I would suggest shocks/struts and check out all the bushings and mounts. If you have original rubber in there, I'm sure its way past its shelf life.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Just change the shocks -- it should give you a much improved ride without messing with the springs. I swapped out the oem's on my Jeep for Bilsteins and my son did the same for his Durango. We both really liked the change.
I agree with the struts/bushings idea. I also figured that getting into springs was if you wanted to really changed the car (lower it, radically change the handling). Odds are good that just the struts and attachment points will make it pretty much "like new".
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Thanks!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
What a beaut! A dent in almost every body panel and missing interior trim, including the driver's door panel. I wonder whether the Powerball ticket in the console is included?
Another congrats from me. That's beautiful!
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
So this was Stick's prediction on the wife's Audi TT almost three months ago. And I don't think he was joking.
And he was more or less right.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
To be fair, some things changed with my wife's ex since we bought the TT, whereby her son is staying almost exclusively with us now, so the challenges with the TT and its diminutive size increased. But the honest truth is I think she/we underestimated the challenges with her having what is essentially a two-seater (the coupe does have backseats, but you can imagine how useful they are).
In fact, she was driving the Odyssey a lot and even suggested that we "upgrade" it to a newer one and that could be her car. Now, I wouldn't mind a nicer van, but I just said it would never stick - that a van would not be her main car for long.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
No, I wasn't actually kidding. always a risk getting something funky like that. I learned that lesson when I got the Scion tC when it first came out. Well, it never did work that well having to transport 2 kids all over.
now that I am essentially kidless (car wise), 2 doors is no big deal.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Sorry for the delayed reply....been out of town for the weekend.
I did make a punch, picked up a Silver 2014 Fusion Titanium Energi on Friday. I haven't had much time to play with it but the little I've driven it so far I've been impressed. I have it fully charged now, 22 miles and will take it to the airport in the morning (about 14 miles) and they'll charge it for me before I get back, so we'll see how it really performs.
Should be a fun toy for the next 24 months.
I mostly got these on the Q50 as toys but I've come to love them. Especially the "Moving Object Detection" which is useful when backing out of parking spaces.
They definitely aren't substitutes for safe/smart driving but I can see how they make for a safer drive overall. Crashes happen so quickly that I can see how the few tenth of a second where the car starts braking before I could even get a foot off the accelerator might make all the difference.
@kyfdx
Congrats! As others have said I love the color!
@jpp5862
Mazel-Tov & congrats on the Fusion Energi Punch!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Just saw a commercial for the legacy touting the eyesight gizmo. Starting to think I would really like that feature. the blind spot monitoring looks neat.
especially if my daughter is going to be using the car. doubly so if she is going to ever drive it down the NC through DC on 95. The more help with that, the better. heck, at this point, I need all the help I can get on that drive!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.