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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
that'd be like having bought my Fit for towing.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
that'd be like having bought my Fit for towing.
So...when are you picking it up?
2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport
i'm am also considering a new job. So I'll just have to wait and see what happens. It is not like Porsche is offering any kind of deal right now anyway.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I'm jealous - I'm liking the new model. Just need to convince my wife of it - easy to talk her into a BMW or Audi. I'm finding she doesn't care too much for an American muscle car.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Son in CA is thinking about a newer car, so he'll have to sell the '97 Mustang. Base package (3.8L, auto), but TMU.
If he threw it on CL for $1795 and took the first $1500 that showed up, would that be a good deal?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
The new Mustang is really exotic looking for the money, superior styling to the competition IMO.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
On second thought, if I was getting a Mustang for my wife it would have to be sans Performance Package and three pedals as well- simply to ensure that she would be the only one that drives it.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
If I get out of here soon enough, I think I may drop by the Porsche dealer down the street and see if I can't get a seat in a Macan.
Anybody have any other suggestions for $60k that I might be overlooking? BMW/Benz/Audi just aren't really on my radar. Too many audis where I work, and I can't shake my mindset that they are quite unreliable. My 135i experience really soured me on BMW. And Benz... well, its not completely out of the running. I keep thinking maybe I should check out a GLA45, but, for what I've read, it doesn't compare to the Macan in any department other than performance. I dunno... now that I've got Porsche on my brain, everything else seems ... meh. But maybe that will change once I sit in one.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
On second thought, if I was getting a Mustang for my wife it would have to be sans Performance Package and three pedals as well- simply to ensure that she would be the only one that drives it.
Understood, but the automatic and lack of perf pack hardly makes it so unenjoyable that I wouldn't want to drive it. The car also has sport and track modes and adjustable steering effort that I've yet to fiddle with.
2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Agreed........... I would give these 2 Audi's below a look. The A / S6 is the best of both worlds in any car out there for the price. Audi nailed this one.
Test drive the 2015 Audi A or S6. The challenger will be a after thought.
Macan or the Audi SQ5 would compete. No reason to keep Audi's past the 4yr / 50k warranty so drive them and enjoy. Wondering how reliability will stand up on a Macan 4 / 5 yrs. down the road ? To new to tell yet? But a excellent choice.
There are a lot of ho-hum vehicles out there getting big $$$$. BMW has left me uninspired with several of there models.
I just test drove a 2015 VW Golf GTI. For under 30k VW has a real winner on there hands. Fun to drive , Fast, and handles great. This vehicle is well made. Nice interior quality in this German vehicle. 2 thumbs up for anyone interested.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
As for js06GV, just enjoy your family's new Mustang - sharp looking my most people's standards.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
I agree the styling took a pretty sharp departure from the old in some respects and may not be everyone's cup of tea. Even I had a hard time with the very sloped rear end but it's been growing on me. I've heard the front criticized as too Fusion looking but I like the Fusion too so no problem there.
Weather is very crappy in Dallas currently. Will post pics when I take it out of the garage.
2024 Ram 1500 Longhorn, 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2019 Ford Mustang GT Premium, 2016 Kia Optima SX, 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
He did, however, let me sit in and start up a customer's car in service. This was a pretty base S with panoramic roof. Base wheels, seats, etc. The exhaust is definitely raw. I like it. Interior is much of what you'd expect from Porsche. I was surprised to find that the height and width are so close to the Cayenne. We had trouble spotting it sitting amongst its bigger brothers. From the rear is a different story, though.
probably needless to say, I am very interested. He's going to email me some info about possibly pre-trading my mustang and we'll go from there. On the way home, I was wondering what a lease would look like. Might be the better way to go.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
American styling = traditional and sometimes bland, sometimes muscular, sometimes semi-European.
It's definitely the most attractive 4 door Porsche of any height, but I fear it will attract the X6 and Range Rover demographic, which around here isn't a good thing. Kudos to the Germans for finding a way to get back some kleptocrat money.
I think Asian, American and even European cars are slowly but surely condensing into a more generic styling that will become more predominant in the coming years. A Tesla looks like a combination of just about all styles and bodies of cars. I think that is the future of styling.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
At this point, we're both still happy with our new vehicles and hope things go well with them both. Once we get the vibration problem solved, I'll be so much happier and I believe that come Wednesday, all will be over. And if not, we'll deal with it then and will suggest a different brand of rubber if they can not get it solved. Sure not all Golf's came with the same tire brand...something to look into if things do not get solved. Think it has Continentals on there now but if these don't work, we'll see what else they have as I know they want me to be happy since it is a brand new vehicle.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Expensive to buy or lease, IMO.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
wish i had less expensive taste.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Now, the GLA AMG comes in at something like $5k less... but its quite a bit smaller. I dunno, I guess maybe I should at least take a look at one in the flesh. I have to admit the interior looks pretty awful in the pics, though.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
"You've all overbid!" - Bob Barker
Any guesses for 2015? I have stever down for 39 and nobody else.
I would probably still kick in a little extra if I hadn't moved to the city recently, now I'm making a rent payment I didn't have before! In the long run, I think it will work out for the better. Once I sell my old house, I plan to buy another one here, but would rather not own two at once.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Happy Holidays everyone! Wishing you and yours a happy and healthy 2015!
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2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
I have the Samsung Note 4, which is similar to the S5 only bigger still. My previous phone (for 2 years) was the Samsung Galaxy S3.
I am with Verizon rather than AT&T, but I think the situation is similar. You can get a subsidized phone, or you can pay for the phone outright and get a lower monthly rate. Or you can get a hybrid deal, sort of halfway in between. You get the lower rate, you pay $xx per month for the phone and after 12 months (roughly) you can upgrade and get a newer phone, instead of the usual 24 month upgrade cycle. It all becomes rather complex, go into an AT&T store and ask them to break it all down for you. Be sure to bring pencil and paper and be prepared to take notes.