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The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
And now the rest of the story...If you recall at the end of the summer we sold the fiancé's 09 MDX as A 2 car garage and 3 cars had us keeping one of the BMW's in storage as street parking isn't cool with the HOA. I then began driving the ZHP daily and she took over the 335 as her DD and our primary family car. We need a C/SUV in the fleet for road trips, hauling sporting goods etc. Many. many scenarios were discussed. Everything from trading both cars in to reversing field and going back to a storage unit situation. We shopped around a lot...X4, Q5, Grand Cherokee, GTI, A3 among others to fill various scenarios I had worked out. We really liked the X4 but she always preferred the larger size of the X6. This car popped up at a dealer about 45 min away in a color combo we loved and an already pretty aggressive price. After a few emails the price became better and off we went Sunday to close the deal. The details:
2016 X6 with Drivers Assistance, Driver Assistance Plus, Premium Pkg and Soft Close doors.
1500 rebate
Strong trade on the 335 that covered the remaining lease payments and just a bit more
Just over 8500 off sticker
And they threw in a rubber cargo mat
We, of course, love it after the first 24 hours. The rear visibility is not as restricted as you would think and with the same powertrain as the 335, there is plenty of power when needed.
Oh and I had forgotten that I predicted 33 for the year! Put me down for 27 next year.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Put me down for 29 for 2016 (after 3 punches this yr., doubt I'll be a contributor next yr.).
@graphicguy - Glad to see you made it back from your cruise in 1 piece. Stinks that somebody got your AMEX card number, but I'm happy you resolved it. I saw a White RC-350 F Sport last night. I think you should put that on your "to drive" list. I know @carnaught is very happy with his.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I'll take 27 and a half for 2016 (someone's gotta buy a Harley or sport bike next year
It's raining and grey here. Dangerous....me with nothing to do, it's end of year, and dealers may be looking to make deals. Headed to Lexus this afternoon. Unfortunately, I get compensated for my car from my company. Coupes are not on the "list" for our program.
So, the RC F Sport is out. But, maybe an IS or GS F Sport could be in the cards.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
C'Mon Edmunds....you're better than this!
Really ...?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Myself, stickguy, carnaught, au1994, qbrozen, shifty, roadburner, abacomike,
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Thanks.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I have been seeing a lot of TLXs lately. Will get a long look when it is time. But I like the 4 cyl FWD with the DSG instead. My local dealer teased with a flyer on a loaner with 1,800 miles for a pretty big discount.
The Jag for GG is an interesting idea. Just got a new issue of Automobile and they had a piece on the new model coming out (a 2017?). Sounds really nice. The E class does too. I just love the styling of the current one whenever I see it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
So, yesterday I went over to the Lexus store. Bottom line....really like the IS350 F Sport....EXCEPT....it is cramped....a little too cramped for me, and I'm not a big guy.
Electronics are "wonky", too. Like the trade rags say all the time, the "puck" to operate the screen is really the answer to a question no one asked. It's not bad while you're stationery. Try to operate anything while moving, and you'll curse it.
The GS350 F sport has the room, but lacks the sportiness of the IS. Plus, same crazy electronics.
Gotta hand it to Lexus, though. They put together a very nice car, built well, great materials, and they bend over backwards (at least initially) to do anything they can to make you feel special.
We really didn't get into numbers as I wasn't really bowled over by anything.
Headed to Benz later today.
If they can give me a strong trade number I might try to convince the wife that getting into a new car for less money per month is the right thing to do.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
so if you can lower your rent, for no cost (just swap keys and sign some papers), it makes perfect sense to make the switch now instead of 10 months from now. really no practical difference, and you immediately save money every month if the payment goes down. Combine with the bonus of getting a newer and nicer car, and it is a win all around!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Good or to see everyone is doing well and I hope that everyone had a great holiday!
If so, welcome back!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Shifty - you & roadburner are both itching to punch your cards, but your needs & wants are way too constrictive given your respective budgets. I 100% agree with you that @roadburner needs a Shelby GT350. It would suit his needs perfectly.
I put @breld down for 1 or 2 next year. Something mechanically catastrophic could happen to his daughter's A3 & he'll swap it out for a GTI. Hi wife might get bored of driving her S3 with the DSG & switch it out for something with a manual.
@stickguy - @qbrozen has his financial hands full with the new house, the rental property, the LR, his van that suits his wife's needs well, & he loves the Caddy's 420 hp twin turbo V6. Unless he ditches the Volvo for something else. I don't know.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Trying to decide if either the Elantra sedan or the Sonata is an upgrade. Both have the backup camera (which I want) and the Elantra value edition has the keyless entry (which I really want), plus a leather steering wheel, which is nice.
Gotta determine if getting in and out of these is as easy as in the E-GT - with the pizza delivery gig, I'm in and out of my car 20-40 times a night. Won't do if I bang my head each time.
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@ stickguy---now don't be shocked but I'm thinking that Jaguar may not be around in a few years.
But, it reminded me of some discussion in here about some of us wanting a new Challenger with the Scat Pack (including me). Still wouldn't mind having one, but would need a beater for winter duties to go along with it.
2008 BMW 650i For Sale
Asking $31,900, comes with (allegedly) very comprehensive extended warranty to 108K miles. Mileage is 31,965.
Not my cup of tea---more of a "boulevardier" kind of car, but 360 ponies should move it along okay.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Bradd's guess for me is probably pretty good. I see us swapping out the ZHP for something more functional at some point. And, wife and I had free time on Saturday, so went looking:
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
actually, maybe the next car. One option is get a fancy new(er) "family truckster" and sell the Acura (don't need 2) and I would replace that with a cheaper fun car. Could fit in the budget instead of keeping the RDX and getting a sedan for most duties. Decisions, decisions.
and a 650i stickshift? Is that a 1 of 1 in this country?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The Loisville dealers were asking $3k over sticker for MS3s back in 2007- which is one reason my car came from a Cincy dealer that wasn't playing games like that.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
A very close friend of my parents is a retired Chrysler employee. They are retired & live in Florida now (Ponte Verde Beach where @abacomike's brother lives). The wife drives a very nicely equipped JGC Overland (RWD - 6 cyl). Over the summer my parents went on vacation to Saint Simmons Island, GA which isn't that far from their friends house. My parents' friends know the area, so they drove the GC. My parents were both very impressed. They start talking cars & Marty says he will gladly give them a friends & family certificate.
My parents returned from vacation, itching to ditch my Mom's 2013 X5. They walk into the Jeep showroom. Right there on the showroom floor is a loaded JC Overland. The sticker was either very high $50K or Low $60. They both looked at each other & said: for this kind of money, we can get another Cayenne (which is what they want).
if you look at the lease questions board, you'll also see that GCs have a terrible residual values (below 50% after 3 years). Tons of rebates, cheap lease & finance money, & hefty discounts from sticker sometimes do make sense.
Did the dealer have any CPO SRT8 GCs for you to drive?
As far as the Mustangs go, yeah the GT350 will be priced above sticker at first. Then next year you'll see a few used ones sitting on dealer lots with 400 miles on them. Dealer traded or bought at a Ford Auction. I can see you guys buying one, driving it fit a few years, & selling it for what you bought it for 2 years down the road.
Funny you say that about the new XC90. I see Volvo Ads in the paper every week with big rebates, cheap leases, & 0 % financing. The bottom 1/3 of the ad says they have 10 or 15 XC90s ready for immediate delivery.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
This Volvo dealer in particular is always overly proud of their vehicles when we've visited them. They act as though nothing else comes close to comparing to their product - kinda funny. If they would acknowledge that there are other good choices out there, I'd respect them a bit more. Though I do have to admit their passion for the product is admirable.
And hmmm, used GT350's in a year? I'll keep my eye out!
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Aah, the days of reaching over my shoulder to flip up/down the Miata top!
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
The T8 plug-in definitely sounds cool - it does come with a $17k premium though. Salesperson said he already has an order for one, from someone whose other car is a Tesla.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman