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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
You would be better off getting a CPO 135 and modding the heck out of it.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/29/save-more-than-spent-on-tesla-model-s/
We never get the whole story. What were they driving before? There's no way spending $75K on a car or "$61K after tax credits can "save you money.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Also some sketchy numbers there - $4000/yr to run a car for a 13 mile commute, but almost no costs for the Tesla? I am pretty sure they require an annual service. And at 10 years? I wouldn't want one.
13K+ in tax breaks, I am rolling my eyes to the point where it is audible.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2015 Prius - December 27, 2015
and with that, I realize I have lost all of my cool points. At least we have the Accord.
at least with the hardtop, no worries about having to replace the cloth roof!
plus, the huge benefit is you get normal sized windows so there is actual visibility out of the thing!
I showed it to the wife. this one, she really liked. Just trotted out that pesky "but we don't need a car now" argument. In a couple of years though, who knows?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Will eventually get into the BMW store and test a X1 just to see if I even like the way it drives. Then I want to check out a CPO MB GLA and the GLE...might be cool to have an MB in the garage! Think the Audi and VW have spoiled me so much that I'm not sure I'd want to go back to any foreign or domestic at this point...hell, they have spoiled me! And coming in here will just make me do something crazy eventually! Luckily, I have the luxury of driving so many different vehicles at work and if I play my cards right, I can keep this gig until I turn 65 and retire again. Now, that would be pretty cool!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
anon336, I got your punches registered. We're up to 35 for the year.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
as for me punching next year, I think you are right that the only chance would be an exchange of the volvo; however, that car is worth way more to us than I could ever get for it, so I'm pretty sure that is staying with us till it dies.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
Happy New Year's to all!
It was all loaded up....Meridian stereo, trick shifter KNOB that actually rises out of the console, vents that actually rotate out of sight when the car is off. Just some crazy features. And here I thought the motorized cup holder cover in the CTS was over the top.
Low $60s sticker. They said they'd be aggressive...figuring mid $50s when push comes to shove. Everything is covered, maintenance, warranty...everything for 5/60 (like I'd ever keep a car that long).
Quite a nice car that might tempt me. Wish it had a little more sport. Can't really fault its luxury, though.
Onto the Benz dealer....drove a C300 and C400. Added an E350 for good measure. In the C Class, it ties the Jag for a drop dead gorgeous interior. C300 feels a bit slow (compared to my CTS). C400 is much quicker, but not certain it's better because you feel more "heft" in the car. Handled well. Given I've driven my sister's C300 (previous gen) and tested the current gen quite a bit, the drive wasn't much of a surprise. It's secure and serene.
Low $50s for a fairly loaded up C300, with my company discount, mid $40s would be the buy price. Still, no leather at that price???????? I know some love the "MB-tex" vinyl, but I can tell it's vinyl.
E350...I can see its appeal to Driver and Mike. It is a very nice car. But, I land more on the sport side of things. The E is at the opposite end. It's a cruiser. Conservative, stable, etc. That's not a bad thing, just not what I'm looking for.
The one I drove was stickered mid $60s. Price is fixed with my company. About $10K off MSRP, so decent discount.
The issue is putting a number on the '16 CTS. Jag dealer group also owns a Caddy store. They came in about $1,500 less than I paid for it, which I thought was quite aggressive.
Benz used car manager came in at twice that, stating it's new, right color, right options, probably an easy sell. I could probably move their needle a bit if I were to march in their showroom tomorrow checkbook in hand.
Bottom line, it's going to cost me money. As I was driving home, I played good cop/bad cop in my own mind with my car. This version of the CTS is quite good, probably as good as any of the cars I had tested, better than some. I hate what Cadillac has put me, and my late Mother through over the years, though. I hate to reward them in any way for the way they treated us.
I know the phone calls from dealers are going to start here fast and furious in pretty short order and the clock ticks down on this year.
I'm not shopping any more. More interested in the Jag than the Benz(es). Lexus F Sports after that....then all the rest. As my more practical side takes hold, I really like THIS CTS, too.
the 2014 would have depreciated to much less than you are getting quoted on the 2016 I assume. And given history, you might just be shopping that by now anyway. Or are you saying that it is $1,500 less than you originally paid for the 2014? If so, that is a screaming great ROI!
anyway, at this point, especially given the type of iron you are looking at, it really should be about your happiness and peace of mind. So do what feels right for you, and get the car you really want to have for the next 2-3 (1?) years. Just pay attention to likely depreciation over that time on any of these (especially a 2015 now that 2016s are out, and that Jag is getting a redesign soon).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I think I would get out of that Caddy now, especially if it costs $3000 or less to do so. From my own past experience, every time I looked at it I would get a little ticked off about what happened. However, if you do like it, maybe you can take Mike's advice and keep it a few more months. What would keep you sane? I look forward to reading about your decision.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Today at work, we had to take a Hyundai Tucson to the airport as it was a wholesale. Same year as mine, same color but different trim. I only got to sit in the back seat but have driven a couple the last few weeks. My only thought was happiness, happiness in that I traded something I really wasn't happy with...and I really have never looked back. Even though your situation was a lot different and potentially could of caused you a lot of damage with how badly yours drove at times, for your own sanity...and happiness, just trade and don't look back! For a small amount of $, look at what you could get into...how cool would a new Jag be or even a MB!
Go for it dude!!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I Called the mechanic & told him what I wanted done (oil & filter change, differential fluid change, AT Fluid Change). He asked if I could get the parts because he had a few cars in the shop & didn't have time to run to the dealer.
I got really busy at work, got tired of waiting on hold with the local dealers' parts departments, and couldn't find how much of each fluid I needed (VTM-4 Fluid & ATF), so I ordered online from H and A Accessories. They are a Honda dealer in Citrus Heights, CA that I used in the past to buy things for my Prelude. There were a few sites that were a little less expensive, but they either didn't have or wouldn't allow me to select certain items (one site didn't have the ATF, another wouldn't ship the VTM-4 fluid). The only thing that bothered me was that I had to pay $25 for UPS ground (which took about 2 weeks to get here) shipping on $66.71 worth of parts so in retrospect I could have just walked into a dealer's parts dept & paid full asking price. H and A's website is very easy to navigate. They show the MSRP, their price, & always have better prices for buying in bulk.
I've got 5 quarts of Mobil 1 5w 20 (Pilot calls for 4.5 quarts) from Costco, a gallon of VTM-4 Fluid, 4 quarts of Honda ATF, a genuine Honda oil filter (bought a 3 pack) with crush washer (bought 3 of those also), along with crush washers for the transmission fluid drain & fill as well as the differential fluid drain. So I'll call the mechanic & schedule a time to bring it in early next week.
I don't know if I posted the ending to my tire story. After buying 4 new tires from Costco last month, I had a blowout on my wAy to pick up my son from hockey practice last week. Costco stepped up without question & ordered me a brand new tire at no charge (part of their road hazard warranty). The only bad part is that they ordered the tire the night right before XMas eve (Thursday) & the tire wouldn't even ship from their MD warehouse until Monday. The new tire is in. I'm going to close up early tomorrow (1:00 pm) & have it installed.
Thanks for reading. Goodnight!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Good news on your tire BTW. Nice that the road hazard paid off for you. I hope to get quite a bit more time out of the sneakers on the RDX (at 33k, still lots of tread), though for the first time on Xmas eve, on a wet road, I got a smidge of wheel spin. Usually a sign they are starting to lose the grip even if not to wear bars. I hope to not have to replace them before next winter, but we shall see. Might be an expensive Xmas present for the wife!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
He keeps hoping they will fix it with some kind of software update, but I'm leery of that. I'd lease if I was getting one.
They also have a 2014 E 350 which is identical except for engine, etc. for $1,000. less. It also has about 20,000 miles. I am also aware that a totally new E class, designated as a 2017 is due out in mid 2017.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Besides the transmission, what do you think of the V6 TLX otherwise?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Having exhaustively test driven a BUNCH of cars in the last several months, I came away impressed with the value quotient of the TLX...especially the Advanced SH AWD versions.
But, it hasn't been lost on me that I'm in the minority. I liked the styling of the previous gen (heck, I had one in the stable). I must have been the only one though.
Maybe wait until the 2016s hit the dealers lots? Acura usually doesn't make much ballyhoo about updates to current models. But, if Honda's recent mindset is any indication, using the Civic as an example, they may do some quick retooling of the TLX.
It's getting pretty hard to differenciate the top line Accord from the TLX these days. The ILX has been widely panned as a Civic that's too expensive. The RLX hasn't been a player in the lux field for so long, I wonder why Acura even bothers. That can't be good for Acura.
Come to the conclusion, I don't want to add financial penalties to my mental irritation that I've been through with this Cadillac. The CTS is running well. It seems to be a good car, so far. I do like it. It touches all of my buttons. So, I'll sit tight for a bit.
Thanks for all the insight from my Edmunds friends.
And.......Have a safe, and wonderful start to 2016.
(trust me, I'm having the same thoughts about getting out of my Elantra GT lease early, given the fantastic deals available from Hyundai at the moment. My car goes in for service on Saturday; anything is possible)
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HOWEVER, you obviously aren't smitten with anything you have driven so far. Like you, I found the Jag to be a bit boring, and I even drove the previous 5.0 V8 version. I have not tried any new Benzes, and I don't trust BMW these days. Not sure what your pricerange is, but may I suggest taking a look at the Macan? You won't get a deal, and it would probably be in the mid $60s by the time you are done. Have you tried Audi? I've never been a fan, but when you read so many great things, it is hard to ignore.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Like @qbrozen said, you need to be "smitten" like you were with your 335xi, TL SH AWD, your S4 before its issues, as well as your '14 CTS, & your '15 CTS.
I have always been a fan of the last generation TL in its SH-AWD w/ Tech guise. I liked it even more once they refreshed in 2012. I've seen a few very low mileage 2013s & even a few off lease 36 - 40k mile 2012s. They hold their value quite well. As with most low mileage, cream puff, CPO luxury vehicles, the dealers are proud of their 2013 & 2014s. I'm a little afraid of the "off lease" CPO models because I don't know their history. Did the owners use PUG as directed? Did they use synthetic oil from the Acura dealer or did they just go to Jiffy Lube? Did they change the brake fluid? What about the differential fluid? I'm sure a 36 - 40 K mile CPO will need brakes & tires sooner rather than later.
i happen to like the TLX's understated looks along with its value quotient. A lot of car for the money. You won't be happy with a loaded up Accord Touring. Hard to go back to FWD when you've been driving AWD/RWD for so many years.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Premium package would include the camera, nav; keyless go gives the trunk (which I find handy) and push button; wood wheel is an option, split seats are too. Does it have standard or full LED lights? I love the lighting package on these cars.
New E should be on our roads by summer 2016.
Gonna check out the SUV offerings from BMW and MB. On another note, the BMW dealership near us is advertising $8k off of 3'er wagons.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
I can't even imagine what your V-Sport must feel like.
You're right. Nothing really bowled me over, otherwise I would have pulled the trigger.
Gotta admit, the cars that are in this segment are all good. They all have the latest and greatest you can get on cars these days. They're all good performers. But, you can tell which way their respective manufacturers are pointing them and how they define "luxury".
Cadillac puts the CTS squarely in the sport/luxury compartment vs some of the others putting the luxury before the sport.
All of them are good looking cars, but as always, it comes down to what you like.
I'm happy (right now)!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT