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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    kyfdx said:

    Well as you know I am no big fan of BMW reliability history but I always thought their engines were pretty sweet regardless. I guess I'm just a sucker for the 'ol straight 6 of bygone years. It's my favorite config.

    Whaddaya mean, "bygone". Straight six in all three BMWs at my house. ;)
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    edited February 2016
    speaking of BMWs, my local guy is getting a 328 in a great looking color combo. No pictures yet. I thought 2013 was still the 6, but this shows as being the 4? In any case, loaded. Over $12,000 in packages. Must have just about every option imaginable. Good miles.

    Dang. Why am I not in the market? Maybe Bradd should buy it!

    http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2013-bmw-3_series-328i_xdrive-used-14682646.html

    They do have a prior gen 2013 coupe with the 6 that looks nice. If you want a coupe. And less money.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,499
    @stickguy - 2013 was the 1st year of the F30 new body style for sedans.  I had one a few times as a loaner and was underwhelmed.  The 4cyl turbo mated to the 8speed automatic is definitely a winning combination.  If say the chassis is tuned for sharper and more dynamic handling when compared to my former E90 328xi.  The car just felt very soft & isolated to me.  @au1994 had a 2013 335i Sport Pkg car that he couldn't wait to get rid of either.  If I were to look at used BMWs, I'd say the car would have to have a "35" designation for me to even remotely consider it.

    I'd seriously consider a CPO IS350 F-Sport.  I think performance wise it is more comparable with the 328.  A 335 would wipe the floor with it.  The adaptive suspension and buttery smooth 300 + hp V6 would draw me into the dealer & Lexus' unlimited mile CPO (6 years from in service) would get me to look at a CPO car out of my comfort zone.  I wouldn't be looking for the ultra low mileage cream puff with the galactic high sticker price.  I'd strongly consider a 2 year old 40K example as long as everything checks out.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    I may stop at auto lenders (big chain near me) to drive a 2015 328. Just, why not? They just give you the keys and say have fun. Plus non-commissioned sales people, so not stealing any ups!

    Keep in mind that I will be coming out of a Sonata. So entirely possible that an F30 would be a dynamic improvement! I also doubt I would ever go over the top for a 335. Really have no need for it, or the extra LT cost. But I have also never driven one, so might be underwhelmed.

    I can't drive an IS. At least the last generation. The massive hump in front of the gas pedal is a deal breaker for me. Honestly, if I was getting a Lexus, it would be an ES. Love the seats and interior! Plus I am old, so might be right up my alley (this, from the guy that last summer came within inches of leasing a Civic Si!)

    Entirely possible the Infiniti could be on the list too. Probably a 2016 by then. I think the Q50 is getting a refresh for 16?

    Going to the car show Saturday. Gonna sit in them all, and see what feels good.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,285
    nyccarguy said:

    Lexus' unlimited mile CPO (6 years from in service) would get me to look at a CPO car out of my comfort zone.

    It's a late model Toyota. Do you really need a CPO?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    on a Lexus or Infiniti, for sure, I would buy at the local guy for thousands less, and skip the extended warranty.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    @stickguy An F30 needs the Adaptive M Suspension and Variable Sport Steering to even come close to prior 3 series cars in terms of a sporting feel.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,499
    corvette said:
    Lexus' unlimited mile CPO (6 years from in service) would get me to look at a CPO car out of my comfort zone.
    It's a late model Toyota. Do you really need a CPO?
    I guess not.  I'd have to go and try to find a non-CPO (plain ole used).  

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,499

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    nyccarguy said:


    oh boy!

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  • jpp75jpp75 Member Posts: 1,535
    Nice picture @nyccarguy! Perfect weather for the Legacy. :)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    kyfdx said:

    Well as you know I am no big fan of BMW reliability history but I always thought their engines were pretty sweet regardless. I guess I'm just a sucker for the 'ol straight 6 of bygone years. It's my favorite config.

    Whaddaya mean, "bygone". Straight six in all three BMWs at my house. ;)
    Badly worded--I was being nostalgic for the M30, one of my favorite engines.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    What's that white stuff all over your car? Volcanic ash?
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Just sold the ZHP 'vert. Great car, but hardly saw any use.

    Got a call from the buyer last night; based on the description he said he wanted it. Met this morning at my bank - he barely looked at the car and didn't even want to drive it. Went into the bank, he transferred the funds directly to my account (he banks at the same bank), and he was on his way.

    I mean, I know it's a good car in great shape so my conscience is good, but he sure was trusting about it all.

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  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    WOW.
    That boarders on unbelievable -
    I believe you, if course, just amazing transaction !
    Good for you !
    - Ray
    WOW
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,703
    Congrats on the flip breld. Guess that opens up space in the stable

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,254
    stickguy said:

    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

    - I never even saw the ZHP. Guess having lunch once every 3 or 4 months means the entire fleet turns over between meals.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,499
    au1994 said:
    Congrats on the flip breld. Guess that opens up space in the stable
    Oh yes!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    stickguy said:

    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

    It's a CBO !!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    As soon as the A3 gets moved, will be room for another new car in the fleet.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    "Slow down, you're goin' too fast...got to make the morning last..."

    Here's one recent purchase that didn't work out too well for the buyer....poor guy...it *was* a beautiful car a few weeks ago...

    BEFORE



    AFTER





  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    I'm no mechanic, but I think the alignment might be out just a tad.

    Beautiful car before. Very sad ending. At least engine is OK!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Turbo right? One can guess what happened.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, but it is a 996 engine with over 100K on it, so not going to be an easy sell. Might get $7500 for it, might have to settle for $6000. But they could actually run it, so that will help. Insurance company will own the car, and auction it to a wrecking yard I'm sure. It was in beautiful condition for the mileage though. Obviously a loved automobile. Amazing, the doors open and close. These are strong cars.

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    breld said:

    i mean, I know it's a good car in great shape so my conscience is good, but he sure was trusting about it all.

    Perhaps unusual, but, not your problem either way! :p

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    Find a Porsche that got rear ended, a saws all and a case of beer, and good to go.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited February 2016
    I've actually seen that done, but not front to back, rather side-to-side--older Porsche. I don't know if it's feasible on a newer one.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,626

    stickguy said:

    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

    It's a CBO !!

    I like that..

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330

    kyfdx said:

    Well as you know I am no big fan of BMW reliability history but I always thought their engines were pretty sweet regardless. I guess I'm just a sucker for the 'ol straight 6 of bygone years. It's my favorite config.

    Whaddaya mean, "bygone". Straight six in all three BMWs at my house. ;)
    Badly worded--I was being nostalgic for the M30, one of my favorite engines.
    I had two- one in the Bavaria and the other in my E28 535is. Wonderful engine. Alpina actually built some E30 M3s with a hotted-up M30 replacing the S14; while you'd lose a bit of nimbleness I'd bet it was consderably quicker and cheaper to maintain...

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    breld said:

    Just sold the ZHP 'vert. Great car, but hardly saw any use.

    Got a call from the buyer last night; based on the description he said he wanted it. Met this morning at my bank - he barely looked at the car and didn't even want to drive it. Went into the bank, he transferred the funds directly to my account (he banks at the same bank), and he was on his way.

    I mean, I know it's a good car in great shape so my conscience is good, but he sure was trusting about it all.

    That's about what happened with my M6; the buyer asked me to drive it, wrote me a check for 20% of the asking price and said he'd be back the next day with the rest. Easiest sale I ever had.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    From 2addicts- one less M235i:

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    Not yours I hope!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Tire pressure was probably half a pound low, I hear that impacts M cars :)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not an easy car to flip.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Lemme guess: the story starts with "so I was playing around with traction control turned off..."

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,499
    Nah. Today's day and age, the kid was probably trying to take a selfie while taking the corner. You have got to try hard to flip a car like that.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    If he ran up that embankment, that could do it. Also being T-boned could do it.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    If the kid is the driver, I will wager an awful lot of money that it was a single vehicle accident. Also that his daddy is some kind of moron, and there won't be much accountability. Probably has a new one now.

    I'll go with underinflated tire ( It's an old joke ) combined with a selfie.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

    - I never even saw the ZHP. Guess having lunch once every 3 or 4 months means the entire fleet turns over between meals.
    Well, gotta have lunch more often. ;)

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    If you blow the pic up 1,000% you can see a honeybee resting on the right headlamp....
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    stickguy said:

    As soon as the A3 gets moved, will be room for another new car in the fleet.

    Well, we'll see. Plan is to take the proceeds from these two sales and pay down some existing car debt. All this indulging hasn't come without loans.

    Here's the funny thing on this ZHP sale. On the phone last night, the buyer offered about a grand less than my bottom line, and I asked if he was specifically targeting a ZHP. His response? "Uh, what's a ZHP?"

    So I gave him a brief description of the package, and then respectfully said that he could find a non-ZHP convertible for his price all day long.

    Well, he came up to my bottom line, paying $3,000 more than "excellent" KBB private party value. I expected that premium from a "ZHP buyer" but I find it curious that this guy, who didn't even know what the ZHP package was until last night, was willing to pay that premium.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,254
    breld said:

    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

    - I never even saw the ZHP. Guess having lunch once every 3 or 4 months means the entire fleet turns over between meals.
    Well, gotta have lunch more often. ;)
    Agreed, but my work load has increased the last few months, making it harder to break away for a meet up.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Michaell said:

    breld said:

    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    Apparently the breld brand is famous enough you don't need to check out the iron.

    Though this is pretty much how eBay works.

    - I never even saw the ZHP. Guess having lunch once every 3 or 4 months means the entire fleet turns over between meals.
    Well, gotta have lunch more often. ;)
    Agreed, but my work load has increased the last few months, making it harder to break away for a meet up.
    No worries - hopefully we can line up the schedules for the auto show.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    Well, an old guy(older than me anyway) in a new Taurus Limited-complete with a bright yellow UAW sticker-tried to race me at a light today. Suffice it to say that it did not end well for him.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Some people, when they want a car, they just buy the car:

    Will That Be Cash or Charge Or....ahem....Bitcoin?
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    Maybe the buyer of the ZHP knows the drug dealer who was the original owner and has hopes he will find something tucked away inside the doors. ;)

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,254
     My car clicked over 39,000 miles today on my way to my delivery job. I have seven months left in my lease, and only 6000 miles left before I go over. I think it will be close… 

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Michaell said:

     My car clicked over 39,000 miles today on my way to my delivery job. I have seven months left in my lease, and only 6000 miles left before I go over. I think it will be close… 

    Sounds like a good candidate for early turn-in.

    Of course, I guess that would require another Hyundai.

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