Help enable me, guys. What else should I be looking at? My criteria at this point is something with a 0-60 of 6-ish seconds, and Bluetooth audio streaming. Strongly prefer a backup cam and xenon/HID/LED lights. I’d consider another coupe if it has a high seating position.
Chrysler 300, Buick Regal Turbo or Lacrosse, Mercedes C300, BMW 328i, Taurus SHO? I’d consider something like an Impala or Avalon if the price were right.
Missing some key info from your demands. Price range? Age range? Mileage range? What do you mean by high seating position? I mean, the coupe versions of many of those on your list are just the same as their sedans. Do you have a RWD/AWD preference? Is a CUV out of the question?
Price range: $20k-ish and under. I'd do one of the used 2015 C300s at eimports4less at $23-24k if that's the best I come up with (I was really fond of the way the rental C220d drove, other than the engine, so I probably need to drive a C300). Age range: Not sure. 2010 or newer? I'd like it to have better infotainment than my 2009 Tahoe. Mileage range: Condition concerns me more than mileage. Drivetrain: No preference. CUV: Not out of the question, but I do already have an SUV that I plan to keep, so it's not going to offer any extra utility in terms of being able to haul things.
Price is right on the Genesis! IDK that the IS250 would perform adequately. An IS350, I'd consider.
So, apparently there is a $6,000 incentive on 2018 Chrysler 300s. One dealer has a base model ($30k sticker) advertised for a hair over $20k. Only a few grand more than a used 2015 300 Limited, and you lose heated leather seats (but get a brand new vehicle).
Corvette, I must have missed a post or 2. Remind me here. What are you looking to replace, and what type of driving are you planning to do with the new car?
Corvette, I must have missed a post or 2. Remind me here. What are you looking to replace, and what type of driving are you planning to do with the new car?
I don't think you missed any posts, it was just me being spontaneous. I dumped the Mustang GT due to the fact that I wasn't driving it that much, and the seating position was uncomfortable. So, I'm looking for something sportier than my daily driver (2009 Chevrolet Tahoe LT2 Z71), that I can also use semi-regularly. I really like the current generation C-class, but am very open to other options. The VW CC was kind of a let down. I may find a Genesis locally and take that on a test drive in the next few days.
Help enable me, guys. What else should I be looking at? My criteria at this point is something with a 0-60 of 6-ish seconds, and Bluetooth audio streaming. Strongly prefer a backup cam and xenon/HID/LED lights. I’d consider another coupe if it has a high seating position.
Chrysler 300, Buick Regal Turbo or Lacrosse, Mercedes C300, BMW 328i, Taurus SHO? I’d consider something like an Impala or Avalon if the price were right.
Missing some key info from your demands. Price range? Age range? Mileage range? What do you mean by high seating position? I mean, the coupe versions of many of those on your list are just the same as their sedans. Do you have a RWD/AWD preference? Is a CUV out of the question?
Price range: $20k-ish and under. I'd do one of the used 2015 C300s at eimports4less at $23-24k if that's the best I come up with (I was really fond of the way the rental C220d drove, other than the engine, so I probably need to drive a C300).
Age range: Not sure. 2010 or newer? I'd like it to have better infotainment than my 2009 Tahoe.
Mileage range: Condition concerns me more than mileage.
Drivetrain: No preference.
CUV: Not out of the question, but I do already have an SUV that I plan to keep, so it's not going to offer any extra utility in terms of being able to haul things.
Infiniti comes to mind. EX35/G37. Volvo S60 T6. Jag XF 5.0
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Help enable me, guys. What else should I be looking at? My criteria at this point is something with a 0-60 of 6-ish seconds, and Bluetooth audio streaming. Strongly prefer a backup cam and xenon/HID/LED lights. I’d consider another coupe if it has a high seating position.
Chrysler 300, Buick Regal Turbo or Lacrosse, Mercedes C300, BMW 328i, Taurus SHO? I’d consider something like an Impala or Avalon if the price were right.
Missing some key info from your demands. Price range? Age range? Mileage range? What do you mean by high seating position? I mean, the coupe versions of many of those on your list are just the same as their sedans. Do you have a RWD/AWD preference? Is a CUV out of the question?
Price range: $20k-ish and under. I'd do one of the used 2015 C300s at eimports4less at $23-24k if that's the best I come up with (I was really fond of the way the rental C220d drove, other than the engine, so I probably need to drive a C300). Age range: Not sure. 2010 or newer? I'd like it to have better infotainment than my 2009 Tahoe. Mileage range: Condition concerns me more than mileage. Drivetrain: No preference. CUV: Not out of the question, but I do already have an SUV that I plan to keep, so it's not going to offer any extra utility in terms of being able to haul things.
Infiniti comes to mind. EX35/G37. Volvo S60 T6. Jag XF 5.0
I'm very happy with my Infiniti. They are priced very nicely compared with the power you get. I think my Q40 AWD was clocked at a tick or 2 under 6 seconds. It is no where near as composed as the Germans, but with a set of Front & Rear sway bars (Hotchkins) and some upgraded Vented brakes you'll be hard pressed to find a better value for your dollar.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I don't think you missed any posts, it was just me being spontaneous. I dumped the Mustang GT due to the fact that I wasn't driving it that much, and the seating position was uncomfortable. So, I'm looking for something sportier than my daily driver (2009 Chevrolet Tahoe LT2 Z71), that I can also use semi-regularly. I really like the current generation C-class, but am very open to other options. The VW CC was kind of a let down. I may find a Genesis locally and take that on a test drive in the next few days.
I don't know where you are located @corvette but I see used 2016 Buick Regals with reasonably low mileage around the $20K mark. I even found a 2016 GS AWD model for under $24K in the NYC area. Regals had a steep depreciation curve which makes them a good used buy. They are quite zippy with the turbo engine and ride and handle very well. Unfortunately (IMO) many are black over black but that is a matter of taste. I think they look best in silver and you occasionally find one in metallic red or diamond white with tan interior which is a very nice combo to my eye.
I’m liking the idea of a G37. The reviews sound promising. I found a couple of used 2011 models for sale near me, so may go check one out tonight.
I had a 2012 G37x on an 18 month lease and I loved that car. As @nyccarguy said it's not quite as composed as the Germans but the value is definitely there. They aren't great on gas mileage given the 3.7 and it takes premium but I doubt either of those will be deal breakers for you.
Out of all the cars I've owned/leased it was one I should have held onto longer.
One good thing about the G37 is that there don’t seem to be significant equipment changes from year to year. It’s frustrating to have to look for certain years of one particular generation of a car because they changed the features.
So add another punch to the list. I went and picked up the C30 this morning. @breld and @michaell accompanied me and @breld was kind enough to drive us down in the Q7 which is simply a great vehicle all around.
We did a quick visual check of the exterior, a good looking car from 10 feet away, up close nothing abnormal for a 10 year old used car but also not a garage queen. A good wax and maybe clay bar will do wonders for it, hoping to do that in a couple of weeks.
The buying process was simple enough, I wasn't a huge fan of CarMax but I get the appeal for "normal" car buyers.
Long story short, I LOVE the car. The drive back to Denver from Colorado Springs was relatively uneventful, and I loved it so much I took a drive up to the mountains this afternoon. I put about 200 miles on it today and no issues, which is always good. The manual in this car is really great, the clutch has a high uptake which I prefer and the shifter is solid and easy. It's the perfect compliment to the Touareg and so fun to drive.
I'm really happy with the purchase, and @Mr_Shiftright I highly recommend this car in a manual. I'll take some pics tomorrow and post them.
Great. Let me know more as you learn things. I would only get the manual transmission.
Much turbo lag? How's the ride over rough surfaces?
One good thing about the G37 is that there don’t seem to be significant equipment changes from year to year. It’s frustrating to have to look for certain years of one particular generation of a car because they changed the features.
That's one of the things that drew me to the car. The same basic platform for a long time. Same basic engine/transmission for a long time. Not the latest tech, but certain models do have (1) USB port & certain cars have BlueTooth Streaming Audio. Should be a bit more updated than your Tahoe. Make sure you nudge the lever to the Left from (D) into (DS). It really changes the character of the car and has pretty much zero effect on fuel economy. You should be able to find a RWD one by you too. Just be aware of the tires on the car before you drive it. Somebody may have put a cheap set of tires to make the car more presentable at trade in.
I filled up this AM with PUG at $3.85 per gallon to the tune of 20.2 mpg.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
One good thing about the G37 is that there don’t seem to be significant equipment changes from year to year. It’s frustrating to have to look for certain years of one particular generation of a car because they changed the features.
That's one of the things that drew me to the car. The same basic platform for a long time. Same basic engine/transmission for a long time. Not the latest tech, but certain models do have (1) USB port & certain cars have BlueTooth Streaming Audio. Should be a bit more updated than your Tahoe. Make sure you nudge the lever to the Left from (D) into (DS). It really changes the character of the car and has pretty much zero effect on fuel economy. You should be able to find a RWD one by you too. Just be aware of the tires on the car before you drive it. Somebody may have put a cheap set of tires to make the car more presentable at trade in.
I filled up this AM with PUG at $3.85 per gallon to the tune of 20.2 mpg.
$3.85 per gallon? I feel your pain. I filled up Saturday for $2.49 per gallon, but that was regular. I think premium was around $2.89.
The last time I had a car that used premium, I was very careful where I bought gas. The big brand names (Chevron, Exxon, etc) were running around 80 cents per gallon more for premium. The HEB gas station was usually only about 30 cents difference. Same for Sam's Club, and the Murphy station at WalMart. In general, I have found it takes more effort to find reasonably priced 93 octane than it did to find diesel when I had the TDI.
I dunno - a half second on 0-60 can make a big difference. That said, I bet a RWD model is nearly impossible to find in OH-IN-KY areas. Maybe more likely in Kentucky than other places.
Is there a big difference in the way the AWD vs. RWD models feel? The tests I could find said maybe 0.5 second difference 0-60, so pretty negligible.
Having never driven a RWD model, I can only assume that an AWD car would tend to understeer a bit. There are also a LOT more aftermarket parts available for RWD vs. AWD if you are looking to upgrade the ride, brakes, handling...
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
One good thing about the G37 is that there don’t seem to be significant equipment changes from year to year. It’s frustrating to have to look for certain years of one particular generation of a car because they changed the features.
That's one of the things that drew me to the car. The same basic platform for a long time. Same basic engine/transmission for a long time. Not the latest tech, but certain models do have (1) USB port & certain cars have BlueTooth Streaming Audio. Should be a bit more updated than your Tahoe. Make sure you nudge the lever to the Left from (D) into (DS). It really changes the character of the car and has pretty much zero effect on fuel economy. You should be able to find a RWD one by you too. Just be aware of the tires on the car before you drive it. Somebody may have put a cheap set of tires to make the car more presentable at trade in.
I filled up this AM with PUG at $3.85 per gallon to the tune of 20.2 mpg.
$3.85 per gallon? I feel your pain. I filled up Saturday for $2.49 per gallon, but that was regular. I think premium was around $2.89.
The last time I had a car that used premium, I was very careful where I bought gas. The big brand names (Chevron, Exxon, etc) were running around 80 cents per gallon more for premium. The HEB gas station was usually only about 30 cents difference. Same for Sam's Club, and the Murphy station at WalMart. In general, I have found it takes more effort to find reasonably priced 93 octane than it did to find diesel when I had the TDI.
If you figure out the distance between Houston, TX & the NY/CT border (where I filled up this AM), then the extra $1.36 per gallon isn't that bad (I'm sure the gas tax in Fairfield County, CT is greater than Houston,TX).
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I dunno - a half second on 0-60 can make a big difference. That said, I bet a RWD model is nearly impossible to find in OH-IN-KY areas. Maybe more likely in Kentucky than other places.
Kentucky drivers have also been dumbed-down, most thinking that AWD is required to drive in a light shower. Idiots.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
So I received a quote from Hagerty for classic car coverage for the Saab. For comprehensive $100/$300 coverage, personal injury, glass coverage, etc. and assuming non-daily driver status at 2500 miles a year, they're quoting me $310 a year/$155 every 6 months. This is for declared value of $10,000.
So I received a quote from Hagerty for classic car coverage for the Saab. For comprehensive $100/$300 coverage, personal injury, glass coverage, etc. and assuming non-daily driver status at 2500 miles a year, they're quoting me $310 a year/$155 every 6 months. This is for declared value of $10,000.
Seems reasonable - thoughts?
That's pretty good for your area I think. They require a minimum value of around $7,500 for the more modern "limited edition" type cars, such as yours, so carrying $10K value seems about right, if a bit of overkill. You might think about how much you'd like to receive for a total loss vs. the premiums you're paying for $10K.
So I received a quote from Hagerty for classic car coverage for the Saab. For comprehensive $100/$300 coverage, personal injury, glass coverage, etc. and assuming non-daily driver status at 2500 miles a year, they're quoting me $310 a year/$155 every 6 months. This is for declared value of $10,000.
Seems reasonable - thoughts?
That's pretty good for your area I think. They require a minimum value of around $7,500 for the more modern "limited edition" type cars, such as yours, so carrying $10K value seems about right, if a bit of overkill. You might think about how much you'd like to receive for a total loss vs. the premiums you're paying for $10K.
I'm into it for about 7500 after the purchase + repairs. I dropped it to $0 deductible, $7500 value, $250/$500 coverage, and let go of their Hagerty Plus towing since I already have AAA. That dropped the premium to $292. Seems more reasonable? If I do all of that and $8500, it's $310.
I doubt I could get a driver's car properly sorted for less than $7500. Realistically.
All the same with $8500 coverage and $500 deductible, it drops to $283. I selected it just to see how much more it was with 0 deductible and it wasn't that much more.
Is there a big difference in the way the AWD vs. RWD models feel? The tests I could find said maybe 0.5 second difference 0-60, so pretty negligible.
I can't speak specifically to the G37, but given the same platform, etc, maybe it applies.
I never found a real-world performance penalty in my G35X vs the RWD equivalent. As a matter of fact, I had an impromptu highway 40 to 85 race with a coupe and walked on him ever so slightly. The coupe is heavier, I believe. The G's AWD is rear biased and IIRC only adds like 150 lb, so I be really surprised if the 0.5 sec penalty is really there on 2 vehicles tested in the same place on the same day.
Not sure anyone remembers, but I raced my G35X as well. It did well at the autocross, always running neck and neck with a mazdaspeed3, with us bouncing back and forth 1st and 2nd place each event. At NJ motorsports HPDE, it was entertaining. Very neutral slides. Easy to push to its limits and correct when trouble loomed. Comments I always got at both types of events were "how the hell do you make a limo move that fast!"
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Ha. Just came here to update. The paperwork just went out today for tomorrow delivery. I then sign and get notarized and send back for Thurs delivery. So earliest to be picked up is Friday. I'm trying to arrange transport now.
I had the F&I person email me the lease agreement. It is exactly as stated. I think they may be a bit off on taxes but we'll see. As it is, looks like they are charging tax on all incentives.
Yep you're right on the mileage - I think yours is the new floor, which is helped by the fact that the MF is lower on a Ti vs. a non-Ti.
Agree on double checking the taxes. Not much you can do about it and them being an out of state dealer, you want them to err on the side of caution.
Either way, for this kind of money, it's kind of hard to beat. Wait til you drive this thing with the sport suspension...it's going to knock your socks off.
Tell me about it .. I was in the Q7 with @breld yesterday, driving home from the CarMax after @jpp5862 signed his papers on the C30, and I was looking up used sporty cars with manual transmissions.
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Price range: $20k-ish and under. I'd do one of the used 2015 C300s at eimports4less at $23-24k if that's the best I come up with (I was really fond of the way the rental C220d drove, other than the engine, so I probably need to drive a C300).
Age range: Not sure. 2010 or newer? I'd like it to have better infotainment than my 2009 Tahoe.
Mileage range: Condition concerns me more than mileage.
Drivetrain: No preference.
CUV: Not out of the question, but I do already have an SUV that I plan to keep, so it's not going to offer any extra utility in terms of being able to haul things.
http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2010-hyundai-genesis-used-18041516.html
how about a mini Lexus?
http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2013-lexus-is_250-4dr_sport_sedan_automatic_rwd-used-17965688.html
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
So, apparently there is a $6,000 incentive on 2018 Chrysler 300s. One dealer has a base model ($30k sticker) advertised for a hair over $20k. Only a few grand more than a used 2015 300 Limited, and you lose heated leather seats (but get a brand new vehicle).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm very happy with my Infiniti. They are priced very nicely compared with the power you get. I think my Q40 AWD was clocked at a tick or 2 under 6 seconds. It is no where near as composed as the Germans, but with a set of Front & Rear sway bars (Hotchkins) and some upgraded Vented brakes you'll be hard pressed to find a better value for your dollar.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Out of all the cars I've owned/leased it was one I should have held onto longer.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My local guy has a 2012. I did some searching last night, and this seems to be a typical asking price.
http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2012-infiniti-g37_sedan-4dr_x_awd-used-18051195.html
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Much turbo lag? How's the ride over rough surfaces?
I filled up this AM with PUG at $3.85 per gallon to the tune of 20.2 mpg.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
The last time I had a car that used premium, I was very careful where I bought gas. The big brand names (Chevron, Exxon, etc) were running around 80 cents per gallon more for premium. The HEB gas station was usually only about 30 cents difference. Same for Sam's Club, and the Murphy station at WalMart. In general, I have found it takes more effort to find reasonably priced 93 octane than it did to find diesel when I had the TDI.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Idiots.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Seems reasonable - thoughts?
I doubt I could get a driver's car properly sorted for less than $7500. Realistically.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I never found a real-world performance penalty in my G35X vs the RWD equivalent. As a matter of fact, I had an impromptu highway 40 to 85 race with a coupe and walked on him ever so slightly. The coupe is heavier, I believe. The G's AWD is rear biased and IIRC only adds like 150 lb, so I be really surprised if the 0.5 sec penalty is really there on 2 vehicles tested in the same place on the same day.
Not sure anyone remembers, but I raced my G35X as well. It did well at the autocross, always running neck and neck with a mazdaspeed3, with us bouncing back and forth 1st and 2nd place each event. At NJ motorsports HPDE, it was entertaining. Very neutral slides. Easy to push to its limits and correct when trouble loomed. Comments I always got at both types of events were "how the hell do you make a limo move that fast!"
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I had the F&I person email me the lease agreement. It is exactly as stated. I think they may be a bit off on taxes but we'll see. As it is, looks like they are charging tax on all incentives.
leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Alfa_Romeo&msrp=48090&sales_price=40876&months=24&mf=.00009&dp=0&doc_fee=300&acq_fee=595&taxed_inc=5750&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=60®_fee=333&sales_tax=6.8&memo=&zero_driveoff=true&totalLeaseTax_radio=true&miles=12000&msd=0
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
probably makes up for your large state fees.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Agree on double checking the taxes. Not much you can do about it and them being an out of state dealer, you want them to err on the side of caution.
Either way, for this kind of money, it's kind of hard to beat. Wait til you drive this thing with the sport suspension...it's going to knock your socks off.
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