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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
@qbrozen...what's the story on the possible wastegate failure?
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
anyway, I jumped straight to the Elantra. Checking out truecar, they are saying $5k off sticker on a 2016 SE with Group 2 package. Seems like a screaming deal, no? Wonder if any dealer would actually do that.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Wow, wonder what the MF and residuals are. The latter can't be too great with a rebate like that.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I love my Touareg, it's by far my favorite vehicle in the last 15 years. I'm leery of the quality and maintenance, but that's why I leased.
Plus of course, you can actually drive it!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I sat in some Audis too. Now those, were really nice.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
On another note, we are having another garage built, our 3 car isn't big enough for all hubby's crap and 3 cars. The 1 car garage will clear out the crap, allow a 3rd car to go inside, and the truck to have a garage too. Hopefully that will keep the thieves from messing with our cars. New garage should be done in a couple weeks.
This I find odd & interesting:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/news/912928/2017-bmw-2-series-230i-m240i-get-new-engines/
M240i - hmmmm
Kid flies in Wednesday night and Thursday late morning he'll(we'll) get things moved and hooked up. No matter what, I'm thrilled as I got what I wanted...finally. Looking at the wall right now, the 48" would've been a bit much to be honest. Unfortunately, our family room is rectangularish, not squarish, which creates a seating issue and a viewing problem. For folks on the couch to see, the front chairs need to be configured a certain way. The larger sets just wouldn't work at the end of the day so we went just slightly smaller. Never realized how large the 48"-50" sets really are and it was a big wake up call in the store.
Anyways, it's sitting in the front hall ready for the master to do his thing. And it's really a family gift since it's going in the family room for all to see. I am a happy camper tonight!!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
I suppose it doesn't mean that the same guys are working on both brands, but at least there is a chance something rubs off!
speaking of Audi, they just opened their big new building. A bit bigger and fancier than the old one, but hard to see it being really worth it. May have been more to get a dedicated service area.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
decision should really be about functional needs.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Year or two old Focus ST .. not many miles (under 20K?), but horrible rust on every one of the discs - looked really shabby through the alloy wheels.
Is this common?
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
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Regarding VW dealers, one was engaged and knew the product. The other, the one I described in the previous post, really typified car buying in the "bad old days". The sales person really didn't know his product. The sales manager wanted to "grind" my son. Just a big turn off and not a place I'd ever buy a car from.
So, having wasted an hour+ of time at the dealer in the previous post, with nothing...I mean not even a smidgeon, they imparted to us of any use, we went to the guys who knew the product, were enthused that we were there, and were (at least up until this point) easy to get along with. They're also the ones with the GTI with the Perf Pack. This time, it was metallic black instead of the metallic grey that they had already sold.
I told my son to call and see if the original Sales Manager was there, as we had liked him and wanted his team to get credit if we made a deal. He was. My son told him we were on the way.
30 minutes later, we see the metallic black GTI with plaid interior sitting out front. The sales manager was busy so one of his sales guys greeted us and gave us the keys while putting a tag on it for a test drive. Again, these cars are a screaming bargain considering what we had driven in the same price range (WRX, Focus turbo, Civic, Mazda 3).
We get back. Sales Manager asks what we want to do. My son, defers to me. I told him I have my numbers and it should be quick and easy. He smiles and says, "OK". I come in at $1,250 under invoice on the GTI. On paper at least, that puts about $250 of meat on the deal for the dealer.
Fiesta trade comes back at $6,750. I wanted $7,000. My numbers, tax, title, transfer fees, etc are based on $1,250 under GTI invoice and $7,000 trade on the Fiesta. Dealer says there isn't enough on the GTI to help make up the difference. He shows me some auction numbers to justify his position. As I tell him..."you're not at the auction and I'm right here, right now, check book in hand. I'm all in. If you can't do the deal, no harm...no foul. Thanks for your time."
Whether fake or real pause and deep thought look, the sales manager looks at his computer screen for a bit, holds out his hand, we shake.
I tell my son..."pay the man". Actually, he put $10K down, with $7K in the trade, $17K total. Michaell...he took VW financing for 0.9% for the $1,000. But, he only has to keep the loan for 6 months in order to qualify.
Oh...one last thing. Got to the F&I to sign papers. There it was, plain as day, $250 more on the total than the number I said we were "all in".
Me-"What's this?"
F&I-Doc fee
Me-I said my number was all in. If you need another $250 on the deal, we don't have a deal
F&I-We charge everyone that
Me-OK...then redo your figures any way you want, put that doc fee anywhere you want, but we're only paying the number we agreed to on the deal sheet....where I wrote "All In".
F&I-says he needs to go to the Sales Manger again. He comes back about 5 mins later and shows the $250 added to the trade to make up for it on the contract.
My son loves the car (actually, so do I). They had a metallic grey "R". I was mighty tempted. But, I'm not currently in the market.
PS...almost forgot, they throw in free synthetic oil changes and tire rotations as long as he owns the car...sweet!
Which dealer?
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Im curious as to what you guys thought about the WRX.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Funny how "all in" has a different definition to the dealer than it does to you.
Love that you stuck to your guns.
Hope your son has many happy years and miles with the new GTI.
And, like @kyfdx, I'm jealous as well.
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That didn't bother me as much as it did my son. I like a little "rough around the edges". But, he was right....hard plastics all around the interior. Paint was noticeably better on the GTI. It's a metallic black, that looks almost navy when the sun hits it. WRX certainly didn't have the "well put together" feel of the GTI. Ride was harsh in comparison, too. But, it was quick, and it stuck to the road.
I liked the Mazda 3 he was looking at. Matter of fact, it was a lot less expensive than the GTI. There's no denying the overall goodness of the GTI, though...especially for what it cost.
It's a "hoot" to drive.
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What's next? "Turn on the lights" fee? "Using the Men's Room" fee?
All in means all in. I don't know how you can misconstrue that as "all in except for some other fees you may think of".
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2021 Genesis G90
I had arranged ahead of time to make sure they have a loaner for me, but when I got there, I asked they at least take a look first and determine the problem before I take their car and drive an hour to work. So they do and after about 30 mins, a woman comes to get me and take me into the shop. They wanted to show me what the deal was. Turns out a small crossbrace that attaches the left and right exhaust together just after the downpipes has broken off, including the weld, and exhaust is leaking right up under the car. It needs a whole new exhaust, and they can't find it anywhere. So we discuss for a couple of secs what we should do. They don't want me to take the car if I am not comfortable having potential exhaust coming into the cabin. I agree I will take a loaner, although I know it will probably be one I'm not happy with. I was right. I got a 2.0T ATS. I really wish I had asked if they had anything else.
On the plus side, it has Carplay and I averaged over 33 mpg on the way to work (95% highway), but on the downside, it rides terrible in comparison to my CTS (little bumps I never feel in mine jar the entire structure of the ATS), lets in far more road noise, is cramped, and the seat is not as comfortable. I'm sure it is a nice little car taken by itself, it is no CTS, though.
Anyway, she told me it will be 2 days before they even know when they can get an exhaust. Yikes.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
https://www.yahoo.com/news/volvo-offering-hefty-discount-345-horsepower-s60-v60-153000760.html
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD