2017 Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • mattyb65mattyb65 Member Posts: 23
    Hi Michaell - is there room to negotiate beyond Audi Supplier discount?  Like can I try to get my best price then get the discount in addition?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    mattyb65 said:

    Hi Michaell - is there room to negotiate beyond Audi Supplier discount?  Like can I try to get my best price then get the discount in addition?

    It's my understanding that the supplier discount is a fixed price - no negotiation allowed.

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  • rvcarbuyerrvcarbuyer Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2016
    What's a excellent MF and residual on a 2017 Audi AWD Premium Plus with Tech Packge?
    Capitalized cost 44,679.30, Taxes: 9.25% Registration Fee: 300, Documentation Fee $150.00. 36 Months, 12k and/or 15K.
    Bellevue, WA area.
    Also, what's a good montly lease rate for this before/after tax?.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,559

    What's a excellent MF and residual on a 2017 Audi AWD Premium Plus with Tech Packge?
    Capitalized cost 44,679.30, Taxes: 9.25% Registration Fee: 300, Documentation Fee $150.00. 36 Months, 12k and/or 15K.
    Bellevue, WA area.
    Also, what's a good montly lease rate for this before/after tax?.

    .00099 MF and 57% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr.

    Need the MSRP to do the calculations

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  • plinaplina Member Posts: 61
    Can you've me the residuals and money factor for a prestige quatro with warm weather package, and cold weather package. 36/10 and 36/12 Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,559
    plina said:

    Can you've me the residuals and money factor for a prestige quatro with warm weather package, and cold weather package. 36/10 and 36/12 Thanks

    .00099 MF and 56%/55% residual

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  • lijelije Member Posts: 11
    Hi,

    Can you please give me residuals and money factor, and estimated monthly payment for a Premium Plus Quattro with Technology Package with MSRP of 44K for 36 months/12K? Trading in a leased 2014 A4 Quattro. No downpayment. This is in NJ. Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    lije said:

    Hi,

    Can you please give me residuals and money factor, and estimated monthly payment for a Premium Plus Quattro with Technology Package with MSRP of 44K for 36 months/12K? Trading in a leased 2014 A4 Quattro. No downpayment. This is in NJ. Thanks.

    .00099 and 59%. Need the adjusted cap cost to figure a payment.

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  • lijelije Member Posts: 11
    Sorry, I meant to say MSRP of 47k, and cap cost of 44k. Thanks.
  • arsinc88arsinc88 Member Posts: 4
    any ideas on a cash price for 2017 quattro a4 premium plus+tech+sport+19inch in southern california..thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    lije said:

    Sorry, I meant to say MSRP of 47k, and cap cost of 44k. Thanks.

    $523/mo before tax

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    arsinc88 said:

    any ideas on a cash price for 2017 quattro a4 premium plus+tech+sport+19inch in southern california..thanks!

    Usually 4-6% off sticker, but given the newness of the '17 A4, not sure that's possible. Read back through this thread to see what others have been able to negotiate.

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  • arsinc88arsinc88 Member Posts: 4
    thanks...yes i've noted prices in the thread...but all seemed to be 'leased' and wondered if there was a differential between leased/cash...thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    arsinc88 said:

    thanks...yes i've noted prices in the thread...but all seemed to be 'leased' and wondered if there was a differential between leased/cash...thanks again.

    There shouldn't be any difference.

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  • arsinc88arsinc88 Member Posts: 4
    great...thanks for the response!
  • arsinc88arsinc88 Member Posts: 4
    Michaell...thanks again for having this forum available...purchased an a4--msrp approx 48300...paid approx 45100 + taxes/fees etc(about 6.8% off)...hope this helps others....set max negotiation time
    at one hour before walking...finalized within 15 minutes....catch up with you all next time in a few years ;-)
  • vanessa30vanessa30 Member Posts: 6
    Michael: Could I please have the numbers for 2017 A4 PremiumAWD (and Premium Plus) in NJ with walk off payment of $3000 in NJ (7% sales tax). thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,559
    vanessa30 said:

    Michael: Could I please have the numbers for 2017 A4 PremiumAWD (and Premium Plus) in NJ with walk off payment of $3000 in NJ (7% sales tax). thanks.

    .00099 MF and 57% residual for 36 mo, 15K/yr. either model.

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  • vishalsuri1986vishalsuri1986 Member Posts: 28
    Hello,

    Anyone an idea on the numbers of following and what I can expect for 36/12k and 36/10k

    2017 A4 2.0T quattro
    Mythos black with black interior
    Heated front seats
    Convenience package
    Navigation plus
    MSRP is $45,820

    Offered Price $43,162. New York State.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172

    Hello,

    Anyone an idea on the numbers of following and what I can expect for 36/12k and 36/10k

    2017 A4 2.0T quattro
    Mythos black with black interior
    Heated front seats
    Convenience package
    Navigation plus
    MSRP is $45,820

    Offered Price $43,162. New York State.

    Premium, Premium Plus or Prestige?

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  • juliek9971juliek9971 Member Posts: 4
    I second foffo's earlier post. I've run lease terms for the new 2017 Audi A4 Premium Quattro, and the MFs are nowhere close to starting with .000~. These numbers are for April 2016 in Houston, TX.

    They ran it with a trade-in for my current 2014 Audi A4 lease, in which I have negative equity. But I've backed into my numbers and calculated these numbers without the trade-in. I have the detailed fee sheet from my salesman, so I can verify every number except the MF, which I backed into. (This isn't final deal, just where we are on a first round.)
    2017 Audi A4 AWD Quattro Premium S tronic
    MSRP: 45,190.00
    Cap Cost: 46,387.69 [No incentives offered, but just first round. At min, will get loyalty discount. Audi adds in dealer services fees, TTL, acquisition fee, taxes, and document fees. Plus AudiCare at $849.]
    Term: 42 mos [I'm told this is the sweet spot term]
    Mileage: 15k
    Cash Down: $1,000. I never put cash down, but it's included in these numbers for now.
    Residual: 53% [from salesman]
    Monthly Pmt: $792

    If I back into my numbers, I'm showing a MF of .000222. Which is insane. The only way I get to the payment they gave me is with these MFs. Note: I don't know if they've run my credit yet, but my credit score is 750+. [They're giving me an MF of .00075 on an Audi Q5, so I don't think they're assuming I suddenly have terrible credit just on the A4.]


    Note on other Terms:
    36/15k: 57% Res; .001975 MF
    39/15k: 55% Res; .0021 MF
    42/15k: 53% Res; .00222 MF

    They keep talking to me about the Q5, including saying that you can get the Q5 at a great deal right now, so just drive it for a year and then get the new A4 when the dealership is more likely to negotiate on the price. So it is obvious that Audi is pushing the 2016 2.0 Q5s right now. I suspected they were inflating the MFs to deter me from the new A4, but maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

    How do I make sense of this? Appreciate your thoughts before I tell the dealership I know they're trying to skin me alive.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172

    I second foffo's earlier post. I've run lease terms for the new 2017 Audi A4 Premium Quattro, and the MFs are nowhere close to starting with .000~. These numbers are for April 2016 in Houston, TX.

    They ran it with a trade-in for my current 2014 Audi A4 lease, in which I have negative equity. But I've backed into my numbers and calculated these numbers without the trade-in. I have the detailed fee sheet from my salesman, so I can verify every number except the MF, which I backed into. (This isn't final deal, just where we are on a first round.)
    2017 Audi A4 AWD Quattro Premium S tronic
    MSRP: 45,190.00
    Cap Cost: 46,387.69 [No incentives offered, but just first round. At min, will get loyalty discount. Audi adds in dealer services fees, TTL, acquisition fee, taxes, and document fees. Plus AudiCare at $849.]
    Term: 42 mos [I'm told this is the sweet spot term]
    Mileage: 15k
    Cash Down: $1,000. I never put cash down, but it's included in these numbers for now.
    Residual: 53% [from salesman]
    Monthly Pmt: $792

    If I back into my numbers, I'm showing a MF of .000222. Which is insane. The only way I get to the payment they gave me is with these MFs. Note: I don't know if they've run my credit yet, but my credit score is 750+. [They're giving me an MF of .00075 on an Audi Q5, so I don't think they're assuming I suddenly have terrible credit just on the A4.]


    Note on other Terms:
    36/15k: 57% Res; .001975 MF
    39/15k: 55% Res; .0021 MF
    42/15k: 53% Res; .00222 MF

    They keep talking to me about the Q5, including saying that you can get the Q5 at a great deal right now, so just drive it for a year and then get the new A4 when the dealership is more likely to negotiate on the price. So it is obvious that Audi is pushing the 2016 2.0 Q5s right now. I suspected they were inflating the MFs to deter me from the new A4, but maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

    How do I make sense of this? Appreciate your thoughts before I tell the dealership I know they're trying to skin me alive.

    MF on 2017 A4 Quattro is .00099; dealers are allowed to mark it up for extra profit. But, holy cow, that's a lot of mark up.

    Premium residual is 57% / 55% / 53% for 36 / 39 / 42 months, 15K per year.

    Politely but firmly tell the dealer you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. And, reach out to other dealers. Only takes one to meet your numbers.

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  • juliek9971juliek9971 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the response! That's exactly what I thought too. I'm sure they're not expecting me to know the numbers. I find when a woman walks into a dealership, the first question is always "what color do you want?"
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172

    Thanks for the response! That's exactly what I thought too. I'm sure they're not expecting me to know the numbers. I find when a woman walks into a dealership, the first question is always "what color do you want?"

    Stay professional with all your conversations; a smart salesman (and dealer) will eventually realize you're there to make the best deal.

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  • 69chester69chester SCMember Posts: 4
    Hi Michaell. RV/MF please:
    2017 A4 FWD Prem Plus w/ Tech Package in 29229 (SC)
    42mo / 15k. Is there a 48 mo?
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172

    Hi Michaell. RV/MF please:
    2017 A4 FWD Prem Plus w/ Tech Package in 29229 (SC)
    42mo / 15k. Is there a 48 mo?
    Thanks!

    .00072 and 51% for 42/15. 48 month numbers not competitive.

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  • manoloegmanoloeg Member Posts: 11
    Hello Michael, can you give me numbers for a 42/10 lease for both AWD and FWD, looking at Premium Plus with Tech Package

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,559
    manoloeg said:

    Hello Michael, can you give me numbers for a 42/10 lease for both AWD and FWD, looking at Premium Plus with Tech Package

    Thanks!

    FWD: .00072 MF and 54% residual
    AWD: .00119 MF and 56% residual

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  • robertmsprobertmsp Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2016
    Hello Michaell, can you give me numbers on a 36/15 lease, AWD Premium Plus w/tech package a s-line interior? MSRP is $49,180. Thanks
  • nlclhc1nlclhc1 Member Posts: 68
    edited April 2016
    Hi,

    Could I get the MF and residual for a 2017 A4 AWD with Premium Plus, tech and cold weather package in Chicago, for 36/7500?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    robertmsp said:

    Hello Michaell, can you give me numbers on a 36/15 lease, AWD Premium Plus w/tech package a s-line interior? MSRP is $49,180. Thanks

    .00099 and 57%

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    nlclhc1 said:

    Hi,

    Could I get the MF and residual for a 2017 A4 AWD with Premium Plus, tech and cold weather package in Chicago, for 36/7500?

    Thanks

    .00099 and 61%

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  • vishalsuri1986vishalsuri1986 Member Posts: 28

    Hello,

    Anyone an idea on the numbers of following and what I can expect for 36/12k and 36/10k

    2017 A4 2.0T quattro
    Mythos black with black interior
    Heated front seats
    Convenience package
    Navigation plus
    MSRP is $45,820

    Offered Price $43,162. New York State.

    Premium Michaell. Thanks again for your help!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,559

    Hello,

    Anyone an idea on the numbers of following and what I can expect for 36/12k and 36/10k

    2017 A4 2.0T quattro
    Mythos black with black interior
    Heated front seats
    Convenience package
    Navigation plus
    MSRP is $45,820

    Offered Price $43,162. New York State.

    Premium Michaell. Thanks again for your help!
    .00099 MF and 59%/60% residual

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  • vishalsuri1986vishalsuri1986 Member Posts: 28
    kyfdx said:

    Hello,

    Anyone an idea on the numbers of following and what I can expect for 36/12k and 36/10k

    2017 A4 2.0T quattro
    Mythos black with black interior
    Heated front seats
    Convenience package
    Navigation plus
    MSRP is $45,820

    Offered Price $43,162. New York State.

    Premium Michaell. Thanks again for your help!
    .00099 MF and 59%/60% residual
    Thank you for the help. The 59 and 60% is for the 36/12 and 36/10 respectively I assume?

    Can you also tell me when these numbers expire? Appreciate the help again.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,559

    kyfdx said:

    Hello,

    Anyone an idea on the numbers of following and what I can expect for 36/12k and 36/10k

    2017 A4 2.0T quattro
    Mythos black with black interior
    Heated front seats
    Convenience package
    Navigation plus
    MSRP is $45,820

    Offered Price $43,162. New York State.

    Premium Michaell. Thanks again for your help!
    .00099 MF and 59%/60% residual
    Thank you for the help. The 59 and 60% is for the 36/12 and 36/10 respectively I assume?

    Can you also tell me when these numbers expire? Appreciate the help again.
    Yes.

    The current program is scheduled through June 30th, but is subject to updates.

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  • mannan85mannan85 Member Posts: 1
    Hello Michael,
    I am planning to lease. Can you please let me know what will be my monthly payments. Thanks in Advance

    State - Rhode Island
    Trim - 2017 A4 - AWD - PremiumPlus with tech/weather/sport pkg.
    MSRP - $48,275 Negotiated - $46,000
    Miles/Lease - 15K/36Months

    Thanks,
    Mannan
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    mannan85 said:

    Hello Michael,
    I am planning to lease. Can you please let me know what will be my monthly payments. Thanks in Advance

    State - Rhode Island
    Trim - 2017 A4 - AWD - PremiumPlus with tech/weather/sport pkg.
    MSRP - $48,275 Negotiated - $46,000
    Miles/Lease - 15K/36Months

    Thanks,
    Mannan

    .00099 and 57% for 36/15

    $586/mo plus tax with your prices.

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  • vanessa30vanessa30 Member Posts: 6
    ok, I'll follow up on Joel's question. What if you take the below scenario, but for 10K miles, and assume $3,000 down, and that the cap cost in this scenario is a discount off of the MSRP? What kind of monthly payments are expected?

    joelk01 said:
    Thoughts on a P+ with sport, tech, First Edition, MSRP of 50,250, cap cost of 45,275 on a 12/36 lease. Resid of 59% and MF of .00109, taxes 7%

    Monthly lease payment of 552 with no additional cap cost reduction and fees of 383.85 NJMV, 299.00 doc fee,
    795.00 bank fee.

    Thoughts?

    Joel is that cap cost with money down or are you getting that much of a discount on MSRP?
  • millertymesbmillertymesb Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2016
    Hi Michaell,

    First off, thanks for your guidance on this site!

    I'm negotiating a lease for a 2017 A4 Quattro Premium Plus with Tech, Sport, 19 inch rim package, and weather. 36 month/12k per year. MSRP is $49,450. Negotiated to $46,450 and the dealer is going to pay my 2 remaining VW payments totaling $652. I live in Orange County, CA.

    The dealer agreed to $2,500 down and $557.43 per month plus tax.

    Does that sound like a decent deal based on your specs?

    Also - do you have any thoughts on going with Audi Care? Audi pays for the first maintenance, so not sure it is worth it....

    Thanks again!!

    - Blake
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172

    Hi Michaell,

    First off, thanks for your guidance on this site!

    I'm negotiating a lease for a 2017 A4 Quattro Premium Plus with Tech, Sport, 19 inch rim package, and weather. 36 month/12k per year. MSRP is $49,450. Negotiated to $46,450 and the dealer is going to pay my 2 remaining VW payments totaling $652. I live in Orange County, CA.

    The dealer agreed to $2,500 down and $557.43 per month plus tax.

    Does that sound like a decent deal based on your specs?

    Also - do you have any thoughts on going with Audi Care? Audi pays for the first maintenance, so not sure it is worth it....

    Thanks again!!

    - Blake

    .00099 and 59%

    What is the breakdown of the $2500?

    Audicare adds 1% to the residual, so it may be worth the cost.

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  • vanessa30vanessa30 Member Posts: 6
    Now that we are in a new month, have the MF and residual numbers changed? A4 Plus Tech & Cold Weather in NJ. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    vanessa30 said:

    Now that we are in a new month, have the MF and residual numbers changed? A4 Plus Tech & Cold Weather in NJ. Thanks!

    Current Audi numbers are valid until 6/30/16. But, there could be updates.

    FWD or Quattro?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • misterkushmisterkush Member Posts: 8
    How does Premium vs Premium Plus vs Prestige affect the MF/Residual?
    I am looking for Quattro at 15k/36mo
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172

    How does Premium vs Premium Plus vs Prestige affect the MF/Residual?
    I am looking for Quattro at 15k/36mo

    MF is the same at .00099

    Premium / Prem Plus residual is 57%; Prestige is 53%

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  • vanessa30vanessa30 Member Posts: 6
    sorry Michael, I didn't see your response and questions from my post about the Plus with Tech and Cold Weather in NJ. It would be 10k miles / 36 mo. I was offered sale price of $42,902 with monthly lease payment of $459 (MSRP 48, 890). The sale price includes the silly inflated floor mats and USB cables, and wheel locks I didn't ask for. I'm inclined to ask those be deducted from the sales price. The monthly includes 299 doc fee, 410 registration and 299 window etch insurance (another fee I don't think I should have to pay).

    Feedback on these numbers? Appreciate it!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    vanessa30 said:

    sorry Michael, I didn't see your response and questions from my post about the Plus with Tech and Cold Weather in NJ. It would be 10k miles / 36 mo. I was offered sale price of $42,902 with monthly lease payment of $459 (MSRP 48, 890). The sale price includes the silly inflated floor mats and USB cables, and wheel locks I didn't ask for. I'm inclined to ask those be deducted from the sales price. The monthly includes 299 doc fee, 410 registration and 299 window etch insurance (another fee I don't think I should have to pay).

    Feedback on these numbers? Appreciate it!

    Is this for FWD or Quattro?

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  • vanessa30vanessa30 Member Posts: 6
    quattro
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,172
    Michaell said:

    vanessa30 said:

    sorry Michael, I didn't see your response and questions from my post about the Plus with Tech and Cold Weather in NJ. It would be 10k miles / 36 mo. I was offered sale price of $42,902 with monthly lease payment of $459 (MSRP 48, 890). The sale price includes the silly inflated floor mats and USB cables, and wheel locks I didn't ask for. I'm inclined to ask those be deducted from the sales price. The monthly includes 299 doc fee, 410 registration and 299 window etch insurance (another fee I don't think I should have to pay).

    Feedback on these numbers? Appreciate it!

    Is this for FWD or Quattro?
    vanessa30 said:

    quattro

    I get $448/mo with those numbers, so pretty close to your quoted payment.

    How much is due at signing?

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  • lespaul30lespaul30 Member Posts: 46
    I'm curious about which vehicles you are seeing the best lease numbers for right now: A4, 3 series, or C class? Thanks!
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