Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    lol, if you had followed my mattress link the other day, you would have seen a quote from an orthopedist who said all mattresses feel the same once you are asleep.

     

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  • marine2marine2 Member Posts: 1,155
    What would be nice is if they made one where you could air up the sides to feel as comfortable as you want. I drove my LTD from Arizona to Ohio some years ago and had no problem with my back and they weren't orthopedic.
  • li_285li_285 Member Posts: 29
    I went to the dealer to have my driver door fixed (this is the third try). The door seems to close well now after some adjustments the dealer did. However, on my way home on free way, I heard wind noise when the radio was off. I am not sure I have heard it before since I am really pay attention to details of the van now. The noise is the same noise you will hear when you lower the window only not as loud. Is it normally to hear that or is the van supposed to be quiet even at free way speed?

     

    For those of you who complains about wind noise before, what exactly does it sound? Could it be possible to come from some gap between the driver door and frame? I am afraid if the dealer fixed one problem and created another.

     

    Thanks.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    DC makes a perfectly good van. I have rented several, and they were perfectly functional. But I would never buy one because of the abysmal re-sale value.
  • jntjnt Member Posts: 316
    I heard that car makers even maintained that 1 quart of oil consumption per 1000 miles is within their specification even.

     

    JNT
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    So are you inferring, then, that they are without merit? If I found the seats in an Odyssey to be uncomfortable after a few thousand miles of ownership, I certainly wouldn't be complaining to the salesperson-- that would just be shooting the messenger. I'd be calling Honda customer service and posting my comfort experience in forums like these.

     

    You should take more seriously the (relatively few) posts here that find fault with your the product Usell.
  • yjfuyjfu Member Posts: 18
    Most wind "whistle" noises mentioned in this forum are from the leak of wind shield when driving >35 MPH. My car is being fixed for this problem on the 3rd trial (total 34 days). The dealer told me it had been fixed but American Honda still needs to approve it based on pictures and document it. I will see it tomorrow. By the way my colleague tested driving both and just bought Sienna because of Ody's noise.
  • allison5allison5 Member Posts: 130
    Just adding to what I read on forum. I agree that everyone's back is different and will react differently to the Odyessy seat but I personally know other people besides myself that have found the Odyessy and Chrysler T&C uncomfortable. I am still in the process myself of deciding whether to get the Odyessy despite the soreness or get a Sienna even though it's more expensive and the seats do not come out as far.
  • scottybscottyb Member Posts: 83
    Chi-ody

    "We purchased our '05 Odyssey 12-31-04 in the Chicago area. As soon as the temps got cold, the driver-side passenger door would no longer automatically open."

     

    Same thing happened to us--same door. Van was delivered last Thursday; a couple of days later, on a very cold day, the "sliding door" light illuminated. We are taking the van in tomorrow and will let you know what the problem is. According to the service manual, it could be a number of things; we need to wait until the tech can download the diagnostic codes.

     

    I don't have a problem operating the doors manually. Be sure that the switch that controls the electric doors--to the left of the steering wheel--is not set to "on." Turning the switch off disables the power doors and permits them to move manually. (These are the instructions in the owners manual.)

     

    Good luck--to us too.
  • marine2marine2 Member Posts: 1,155
    "I agree that everyone's back is different and will react differently to the Odyessy seat but I personally know other people besides myself that have found the Odyessy and Chrysler T&C uncomfortable."

     

    Yours would be the only one I have read in these posts that have said they didn't like the Chrysler front seats.
  • s2000fevers2000fever Member Posts: 37
    Call if wasteful, but I religiously change the oil and filter (factory filter only) every 3,000-3,500 miles. I have owned 5 Hondas and never have had to add oil. I have also owned two Toyotas and never had to add oil. I owned a 3.8L DC T&C and usually had to add 1/2 quart during this interval. My new VCM Ody has +- 1,500 miles and a quick check last weekend indicated all is well for what it's worth.
  • got-phogot-pho Member Posts: 7
    1. Wish interior lights go off after a period of time if you manually pressed them on OR switched to "ON" with the master switch on the dash.

     

    2. Interior lights could be a little brighter

     

    3. Defect: the letters on the radio's left knob are not illuminated as the center and right one.

     

    4. Defect: The outside mirrors heater switch does not "stick" at ON position. I can see the light but let go and the switch goes back to OFF.

     

    5. The amber "courtesy" light by the HomeLink switch is too dim to be useful, IMO.

     

    6. Sound quality could be better. Same goes for radio reception.

     

    7. Like all the extra storage including in-floor one.

     

    8. Love leather now - we bought it because of DVD.

     

    9. Comfortable seats.

     

    10. Gloveboxes have lights in it - can't remember?

     

    11. Love the speedometer/dash display.

     

    12. Don't like the plastic but at least it's toy-like as that of another Japanese van.

     

    13. Whoever wrote the owner manual should have retaken their D-grade technical writing class; and also should have ran their writing through a spellchecker and have others proof-read. Note this post is exempt from such requirement.

     

    14. I am going to close this post with a complaint about having to shut the front doors and lift-gate much harder than usual to shut them.

     

    That's all folks.... for now.
  • danesidanesi Member Posts: 11
    This is our third odyssey and the first time we have had oil consumption during break-in. I was told by the sales person handling the sale that the first oil chnage should come after 5000 miles as they use a different blend for break-in period.

    I think I will alert service manager in any event.
  • marine2marine2 Member Posts: 1,155
    Does the speedometer/dash display lite up like the Civic? Wife loves the way hers does.

     

    DGC has no glove box light.

     

    It does has a battery saver that will turn off interior lights after 15 min if they are pressed on and not turned off, or door is left a jar.

     

    Does Honda's door switches all lite up? Dodge only has the driver's window switch that lights up.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I'm infering nothing, heywood, just stating my observation. Why would I take these posts "seriously". I don't think there is a "problem" per se.

     

    My point was/is, if Odyssey seats were THAT uncomfortable I would have heard this from customers and other salespeople. Never once have I heard of a lost sale because of uncomfortable seats.

     

    If Honda were to change the seats we would be hearing complaints from different people!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    marine,

     

    See ? You keep talking about how wonderful the Chrysler seats are compared to the Odyssey and now you have found someone who doesn't like either one!

     

    There will always be a small percentage of people who won't like something that the masses do!
  • minivanguyminivanguy Member Posts: 85
    Yes, all the Honda switches all light up. We have an alarm on are 2005 Odyssey. That won't arm if any of the doors(or tailgate) is open. I had a 2004 Town & Country Ltd that had an alarm that still turned on even with the doors open. Well one door anyway(passenger slide door). My wife accidently during a rainy day, rushed into the house and activated the alarm. I came home an hour later to find the lights off in the van ,but the passenger slide door wide open. It looked like an ocean in my van. Anyway I tried the next day and turn on the alarm with the door open. The van alarm came on, an that's what fooled my wife when she stormed into the house. So I think the alarm on my Odyssey is a cool battery saver. "Oh yeah", The Odyssey does have a glove light.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Does anybody know if the middle row seats tilt/tumble forward (in addition to folding down) to make third row access a little easier? I noticed the Toyota seats do this, but forgot to check the Honda. If we keep that +1 seat in, then it will be hard to get to the third row if the sets don't tumble.
  • yiqinyiqin Member Posts: 6
    Hi there,

     

    I had my 2005 Odyssey EX for about two weeks now. Overall, we like the van, however, there's one problem that annoy us. Every time, when I start out my van from a parking lot, I hear a scraping noise, last about a second or two. Does anyone else had the similar problem for the EX? Or there's something wrong with my van? Any info would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    That's the ABS doing a self check. It happens in all vehicles.
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    "Does anybody know if the middle row seats tilt/tumble forward (in addition to folding down) to make third row access a little easier? I noticed the Toyota seats do this, but forgot to check the Honda. If we keep that +1 seat in, then it will be hard to get to the third row if the sets don't tumble."

     

    The seats have a button on the top of the seatback that allows you to simultaneously move the seat forward and tilt the seat back forward. But the seats do NOT tilt in the sense that the seat bottom tilts. Still, there is PLENTY of space to pass for young and old, big and small.
  • sleepieonesleepieone Member Posts: 2
    Only have had the car 2 weeks. The Fuel Cap Open display is showing. I never fueled the car since I got it from the dealer. Check the cap per instruction. Fuel was low anyway so I refueled. display won't go away. Just took to dealer. Will let you know what they say. Anyone come across this one?
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Your quote speaks volumes.

     

    You obviously have selective hearing when it comes to your product-- you only want to listen to the praise.

     

    I wasn't talking about losing a sale over the seats. Most of those who have posted here regarding uncomfortable seats have noticed it after they've bought and owned the van for a while.

     

    And you ignored my previous post that noted the Epinions.com lead reviewer's comments on seat discomfort in Odyssey. I would think he takes his job rather seriously, and not making it up just for fun...
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    And it really doesn't matter. He is certainly allowed to express his opinion. As with all subjective opinions some will agree and others won't. Just like in these forums.

     

    I don't mind losing a sale if one of my customers finds the seats not to their liking.
  • denver5357denver5357 Member Posts: 319
    "And you ignored my previous post that noted the Epinions.com lead reviewer's comments on seat discomfort in Odyssey. I would think he takes his job rather seriously, and not making it up just for fun..."

     

    Just curious ... which review is that? I looked and there are no reviews on epinions.com of the Honda Ody. There are two sets of reviews on the 2004 Sienna. In one set, a lead reviewer mentions that the 2004 Sienna's Toyota seats are softer than the 2003 Ody (except in leather, which he says might be the same). That's all I could find. Did I miss something in the search? I just did a quick search and followed the epinions navigation, so I could have missed it.
  • yiqinyiqin Member Posts: 6
    Thanks.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    For some reason, the review is difficult to find, but it is there. Instead of entering the make and model, you must first begin from the minivan category.

     

    Steve the Host posted the link here a few weeks ago.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I was just pointing out a complaint source that you MIGHT consider taking seriously. But I was wrong...
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That link I posted back in December got fried.

     

    Try this one:

     

    Epinions

     

    Steve, Host
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,565
    I better go read the ownersmanual again. A couple of items are on that list a few posts back that I either didn't know I had, or don't know where to find.

     

    SOmeone who rode in the back asked about the small cubby hole on the spare tire side (said the top didn't open far enough to be useful). I'm not even aware that there was something back there!

     

    Also had to ask the service guy today how to unhook the +1 seatbelt, since I was too lazy to dig out the manual (and was there anyway).

     

    After 5 weeks and 1,200 miles, had a few major problems taken care of:

     

    -1 sunshade didn't retract fully (they adjusted)

    -A sunvisor clip was crooked

    - 1 of the little plastic caps that cover the rear bumper panel bolts was missing

    - there were a few paint spots (a different color, I think it was from a pinstripe) that were there at delivery, and I finally had the detail guy take them off.

     

    That's pretty much it for initial problems, and I'm pretty darned anal about little things to complain about.

     

    Problems are what can be fixed, as opposed to perceived design flaws (where it is functioning the way it was designed to, whether you like it or not).

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Yes, you were wrong. I take ISOLATED complaints with a grain of salt.

     

    In the town where we live there is a small but VERY nice steakhouse. They don't take reservations during prime times and there can be a hour and a half wait. Great food and decent prices.

     

    I have reccommended this place to lots of people and most have thanked me afterwards.

     

    Still, one of our bosses at work, on my suggestion, went there with his wife and they hated the place.

     

    They thought the service was poor and the food mediocre. My first thought was that the restaurant had maybe had a bad night...it happens.

     

    A few months later they tried the place again and had the same experience. They will probably never return and they shouldn't!

     

    Did I take his complaints seriously? Not at all. Went there with my cousin and her husband last week and it was fantastic!
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    I have driven my son's 2001 Ody EX many times and feel the driver's seat is very comfortable.

        Based on sitting in many new 2005 Odysseys, the 2005 seats feel as comfortable as the 2001 Ody EX. The driver's seat of the 2005 Sienna and 2005 DC minivans are also as comfortable altho the driver's seat in my 2002 T&C LX is not.

        If I were not well satisfied with my 02 T&C, I would trade it on a new 2005 Ody EX.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Did you even READ the Epinions article? Just curious. The author's description of the seat problem was thorough and believable. He gave the van a great review otherwise.

     

    Go ahead and continue to read with your rose-colored spectacles.

     

    I enjoyed the steak dinner analogy. Perhaps your boss was used to better restaurants.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    The author of that epinions also didn't care for the front end styling of the Sienna CE tested last year or a Sienna XLE recently tested.

     

    Does that mean that the Sienna front end styling is bad? No, it just means that TO THAT PERSON, the styling was unappealing. Haven't you ever gone to a restaurant, seen a movie, read a book, or WHATEVER that other people just raved about but which you, for whatever reason, didn't care for?

     

    The same can be said for seat comfort. Not all backsides are the same. For the vast majority of people, the seats in the Ody are great. I've got back (and neck) problems myself. I slept poorly last Friday night and woke with a lower back ache, what felt like a slight pull under my right shoulder, and a crick in my neck. My wife and I then flew to Houston to pick up our new Odyssey which we immediately drove back home (a nice leisurely 3-1/2 hour drive). I felt better AFTER 3+hrs behind the wheel of the Odyssey than I did when leaving the dealer's lot.

     

    Seat comfort is highly SUBJECTIVE. Seems to me as though, where isellhondas is concerned, you've got your BS-colored spectacles on.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Exactly what color would that be?

     

    A wide range of automotive press have said the Sienna's front-end styling could be improved. The Epinions reviewer certainly wasn't alone.

     

    So how many complaints about any particular issue are required to make that issue legitimate? Isell is a salesperson, so his opinion must be taken with his self-described grain of salt. He seems to not consider this forum legitimate enough to believe the complaints that are posted here. And no matter how high the number of complaints, he will always consider them 'isolated.' (Or is that 'Isellated?')
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    Ughh,depending on what you've eaten... that color would be brown heywood.Actually you are both right and both wrong on this issue. Just because "some" people complain about the seats doesn't mean anything is wrong with them. And just because a small percentage of people complain about seat comfort doesn't mean you can discount their experience.Case closed.Let's move on.
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  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Fair enough. But I hope those here whom have 'blown off' these complaints will step up and eat any necessary crow if/when Honda makes a running change to the lumbar-equipped seats....
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    Let's put this seat comfort thing to rest...

     

    Hansienna has proven that seat comfort is an individual thing that depends a lot on the shape/size of your behind!! LOL.
  • jntjnt Member Posts: 316
    This is a question for all 05 Odys owners and especially those with VCM option:

     

    Do you notice any booming engine sound when engine is running between 2200-2400 RPM?

     

    That is what we have with our 05 EX-L vehicle. We have driven this one for more than 1500 miles already and always notice this unrefined characteristic of this vehicle. It sounds like some low frequency resonant noise (200-300Hz?)

     

    This problem do happen both around-town (30-40 MPH) and highway speed(60-65 MPH). The transmission seems to be at higher gear (4th likely). The "ECO" indicator is not ON when this happens. No machanical vibration is detected either.

     

    The booming sound is always there with radio on or off. I read somewhere in their brochure that vehicle with VCM has "Active Noise Cancellation". And that is done by the radio sending out the "out of phase noise signal" to the speakers to cancel out the original noise caused by running 3 cylinders instead of 6. So by turning off radio, I would eliminate the radio being the culprit. Unless the radio still producing this sound while it is off. Next time, I'll stick my ear next to the car speaker (while my wife doing the driving of course) to check it out.

     

    JNT
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    "So by turning off radio, I would eliminate the radio being the culprit. Unless the radio still producing this sound while it is off."

     

    It does, otherwise this would be a useless feature.

     

    "Next time, I'll stick my ear next to the car speaker (while my wife doing the driving of course) to check it out."

     

    I doubt you'll hear anything.
  • got-phogot-pho Member Posts: 7
    I like it "glides" for several reason:

     

    1. If you have a carseat that use the LATCH system for securing to the seat, the carseat is "self-contained" within the vehicle seat - allowing you to slide the vehicle seat forward/backward - and not restricted by the vehicle seatbelts or the carseat itself.

     

    2. There is a cupholder on the side of the seat. Imagine tilting the chair when there's a cup of pop in the holder.

     

    3. Similarly, if you items on the seat, tilting it will knock them off.

     

    My previous van was a 97 Caravan and I hated the sound of the metal "clang/boing" resonating after I push the 2nd-row seat back down.

     

    IMO, Honda got it.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I don't care what anyone says - Honda's a Mickey Moust outfit.

     

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  • zeus777zeus777 Member Posts: 7
    Do you guys see the ECO light when you stop the car? I see the light when I reduce the speed, however, I don't see that when the car stopped.

    I don't know why VCM doen't activate at that time. Can somebody explain this?
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    The ECO light is NOT NECESSARILY an indication of when the VCM is activated or not, according to the owner's manual. In other words, ECO light can be on (and VCM NOT activated) or ECO light can be off even if VCM IS activated.

     

    As I interpret the ECO light, it simply indicates when you are using the least amount of fuel possible to maintain the current speed (though I'm sure that is an oversimplification on my part). But, when stopped, your instantaneous MPG is ZERO, so, no matter what mode the engine is operating in, you aren't going to see any increase in your MPG.

     

    Of course, this could all be BS on my part....
  • ace1000ace1000 Member Posts: 151
    Rorr responded a few minutes before me, but maybe my response will reinforce his. The ECO light indicates when the engine is running economically, not when VCM is activated. The ECO light will come on when VCM is not activated but the engine is still getting high mpg, such as slowing down for a stop. It isn't on at idle because the mpg is 0, whether or not VCM is active.

     

    The ECO light is the idiot light equivalent of a mpg gauge and is pretty worthless. It is easy to know when it will come on and turn off just from the driving conditions. It will come on whenever you ease off of the gas pedal and will turn off whenever you have to depress the gas pedal to maintain speed or to accelerate. A VCM light or a mpg gauge would have been much more useful.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    " A wide range of automotive press have said the Sienna's front-end styling could be improved. The Epinions reviewer certainly wasn't alone."

     

    Correct. However, my point was that 'styling' is a subjective quality. A person who LIKES the Sienna front-end styling shouldn't put off a Sienna purchase simply because OTHER people don't like the styling.

     

    Getting back to the seat comfort, you noted the fact that a wide range of automotive press have remarked on the Sienna's front-end styling. Tell me, how many individuals in the automotive press have remarked about the uncomfortable nature of the Odyssey front seats? I've read quite a few reviews and I counted......one. The guy from epinions.com.

     

    As far as Isell goes, he is simply stating that HE PERSONALLY has not experienced a single individual who complained about seat comfort in the Ody TO HIM. Does that mean that NO ONE is experiencing seat discomfort? Hardly. However, it does seem to indicate that seat discomfort is not as widespread of a problem as you and a handful of owners would have us believe.

     

    I only know ONE thing for certain about the seat comfort on the Ody: I have some back and shoulder problems and the Ody front seats feel good to me. The ONLY thing I don't like about driving the Ody is I have to run the seat further forward than my legs would like in order for my arms to feel comfortable. This is not a problem with the seat design; this is a problem due to the lack of a telescoping steering wheel.
  • stacidallasstacidallas Member Posts: 15
    Ok, I know this subject has been discussed ad nauseam, but here's my situation...please let me know if you have any insight or advice:

     

    We purchased our 2005 Odyssey EX on Dec. 31 off the showroom floor. Since it was the demo car, I was a little concerned about how long it had been sitting on the showroom. The dealer told me that they received the car in Nov. 2004 on a trade and I didn't investigate further. WELL, since driving the car, I've noticed a lot of wind noise (no whistling though), and I just checked the door sticker which states that the car was manufactured in August 2004.

     

    Is there a good chance that my car has a wind noise problem since it was manufactured in August? How much wind noise is too much? Also, should I be concerend in general that my car was sitting around from August to Dec.? I don't know when manufacturing began on the 2005 Odyssey, but I don't like the idea of having one of the first manufactured cars (if that's the case) since I'm sure there are always kinks to be worked out.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    There's a door sticker which states date of manufacture? Hmmmmm, guess what I'll be doing when I get home....
  • minivanguyminivanguy Member Posts: 85
    If or when you find out what that cubby hole is please post it. I always wondered what that thing was for.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    MY point is how many complaints must be heard about an issue before it's taken seriously? One? Ten? One hundred?

     

    I never said the seat problem was wide-spread. In fact, how would I know for sure? But that same question can be asked of Isell, who seems to dismiss anyone who has experienced a problem with seat comfort (or any other complaint, for that matter). He insinuated that because HE PERSONALLY has not received a complaint, then it must not be a legitimate issue.

     

    BTW, all posts here concerning seat discomfort seem to mention the lumbar support as the problem-- same as the Epinions reviewer. Perhaps it's a coincidence. If you read the article, the reviewer said the passenger seat (which lacks the lumbar support) was much more comfortable.

      

    Again, it will be interesting to see what--if any--running changes are made to the seat design, as well as the reason given.
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