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Steve, Host
For those of you who complains about wind noise before, what exactly does it sound? Could it be possible to come from some gap between the driver door and frame? I am afraid if the dealer fixed one problem and created another.
Thanks.
JNT
You should take more seriously the (relatively few) posts here that find fault with your the product Usell.
"We purchased our '05 Odyssey 12-31-04 in the Chicago area. As soon as the temps got cold, the driver-side passenger door would no longer automatically open."
Same thing happened to us--same door. Van was delivered last Thursday; a couple of days later, on a very cold day, the "sliding door" light illuminated. We are taking the van in tomorrow and will let you know what the problem is. According to the service manual, it could be a number of things; we need to wait until the tech can download the diagnostic codes.
I don't have a problem operating the doors manually. Be sure that the switch that controls the electric doors--to the left of the steering wheel--is not set to "on." Turning the switch off disables the power doors and permits them to move manually. (These are the instructions in the owners manual.)
Good luck--to us too.
Yours would be the only one I have read in these posts that have said they didn't like the Chrysler front seats.
2. Interior lights could be a little brighter
3. Defect: the letters on the radio's left knob are not illuminated as the center and right one.
4. Defect: The outside mirrors heater switch does not "stick" at ON position. I can see the light but let go and the switch goes back to OFF.
5. The amber "courtesy" light by the HomeLink switch is too dim to be useful, IMO.
6. Sound quality could be better. Same goes for radio reception.
7. Like all the extra storage including in-floor one.
8. Love leather now - we bought it because of DVD.
9. Comfortable seats.
10. Gloveboxes have lights in it - can't remember?
11. Love the speedometer/dash display.
12. Don't like the plastic but at least it's toy-like as that of another Japanese van.
13. Whoever wrote the owner manual should have retaken their D-grade technical writing class; and also should have ran their writing through a spellchecker and have others proof-read. Note this post is exempt from such requirement.
14. I am going to close this post with a complaint about having to shut the front doors and lift-gate much harder than usual to shut them.
That's all folks.... for now.
I think I will alert service manager in any event.
DGC has no glove box light.
It does has a battery saver that will turn off interior lights after 15 min if they are pressed on and not turned off, or door is left a jar.
Does Honda's door switches all lite up? Dodge only has the driver's window switch that lights up.
My point was/is, if Odyssey seats were THAT uncomfortable I would have heard this from customers and other salespeople. Never once have I heard of a lost sale because of uncomfortable seats.
If Honda were to change the seats we would be hearing complaints from different people!
See ? You keep talking about how wonderful the Chrysler seats are compared to the Odyssey and now you have found someone who doesn't like either one!
There will always be a small percentage of people who won't like something that the masses do!
I had my 2005 Odyssey EX for about two weeks now. Overall, we like the van, however, there's one problem that annoy us. Every time, when I start out my van from a parking lot, I hear a scraping noise, last about a second or two. Does anyone else had the similar problem for the EX? Or there's something wrong with my van? Any info would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
The seats have a button on the top of the seatback that allows you to simultaneously move the seat forward and tilt the seat back forward. But the seats do NOT tilt in the sense that the seat bottom tilts. Still, there is PLENTY of space to pass for young and old, big and small.
You obviously have selective hearing when it comes to your product-- you only want to listen to the praise.
I wasn't talking about losing a sale over the seats. Most of those who have posted here regarding uncomfortable seats have noticed it after they've bought and owned the van for a while.
And you ignored my previous post that noted the Epinions.com lead reviewer's comments on seat discomfort in Odyssey. I would think he takes his job rather seriously, and not making it up just for fun...
I don't mind losing a sale if one of my customers finds the seats not to their liking.
Just curious ... which review is that? I looked and there are no reviews on epinions.com of the Honda Ody. There are two sets of reviews on the 2004 Sienna. In one set, a lead reviewer mentions that the 2004 Sienna's Toyota seats are softer than the 2003 Ody (except in leather, which he says might be the same). That's all I could find. Did I miss something in the search? I just did a quick search and followed the epinions navigation, so I could have missed it.
Steve the Host posted the link here a few weeks ago.
Try this one:
Epinions
Steve, Host
SOmeone who rode in the back asked about the small cubby hole on the spare tire side (said the top didn't open far enough to be useful). I'm not even aware that there was something back there!
Also had to ask the service guy today how to unhook the +1 seatbelt, since I was too lazy to dig out the manual (and was there anyway).
After 5 weeks and 1,200 miles, had a few major problems taken care of:
-1 sunshade didn't retract fully (they adjusted)
-A sunvisor clip was crooked
- 1 of the little plastic caps that cover the rear bumper panel bolts was missing
- there were a few paint spots (a different color, I think it was from a pinstripe) that were there at delivery, and I finally had the detail guy take them off.
That's pretty much it for initial problems, and I'm pretty darned anal about little things to complain about.
Problems are what can be fixed, as opposed to perceived design flaws (where it is functioning the way it was designed to, whether you like it or not).
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In the town where we live there is a small but VERY nice steakhouse. They don't take reservations during prime times and there can be a hour and a half wait. Great food and decent prices.
I have reccommended this place to lots of people and most have thanked me afterwards.
Still, one of our bosses at work, on my suggestion, went there with his wife and they hated the place.
They thought the service was poor and the food mediocre. My first thought was that the restaurant had maybe had a bad night...it happens.
A few months later they tried the place again and had the same experience. They will probably never return and they shouldn't!
Did I take his complaints seriously? Not at all. Went there with my cousin and her husband last week and it was fantastic!
Based on sitting in many new 2005 Odysseys, the 2005 seats feel as comfortable as the 2001 Ody EX. The driver's seat of the 2005 Sienna and 2005 DC minivans are also as comfortable altho the driver's seat in my 2002 T&C LX is not.
If I were not well satisfied with my 02 T&C, I would trade it on a new 2005 Ody EX.
Go ahead and continue to read with your rose-colored spectacles.
I enjoyed the steak dinner analogy. Perhaps your boss was used to better restaurants.
Does that mean that the Sienna front end styling is bad? No, it just means that TO THAT PERSON, the styling was unappealing. Haven't you ever gone to a restaurant, seen a movie, read a book, or WHATEVER that other people just raved about but which you, for whatever reason, didn't care for?
The same can be said for seat comfort. Not all backsides are the same. For the vast majority of people, the seats in the Ody are great. I've got back (and neck) problems myself. I slept poorly last Friday night and woke with a lower back ache, what felt like a slight pull under my right shoulder, and a crick in my neck. My wife and I then flew to Houston to pick up our new Odyssey which we immediately drove back home (a nice leisurely 3-1/2 hour drive). I felt better AFTER 3+hrs behind the wheel of the Odyssey than I did when leaving the dealer's lot.
Seat comfort is highly SUBJECTIVE. Seems to me as though, where isellhondas is concerned, you've got your BS-colored spectacles on.
A wide range of automotive press have said the Sienna's front-end styling could be improved. The Epinions reviewer certainly wasn't alone.
So how many complaints about any particular issue are required to make that issue legitimate? Isell is a salesperson, so his opinion must be taken with his self-described grain of salt. He seems to not consider this forum legitimate enough to believe the complaints that are posted here. And no matter how high the number of complaints, he will always consider them 'isolated.' (Or is that 'Isellated?')
Hansienna has proven that seat comfort is an individual thing that depends a lot on the shape/size of your behind!! LOL.
Do you notice any booming engine sound when engine is running between 2200-2400 RPM?
That is what we have with our 05 EX-L vehicle. We have driven this one for more than 1500 miles already and always notice this unrefined characteristic of this vehicle. It sounds like some low frequency resonant noise (200-300Hz?)
This problem do happen both around-town (30-40 MPH) and highway speed(60-65 MPH). The transmission seems to be at higher gear (4th likely). The "ECO" indicator is not ON when this happens. No machanical vibration is detected either.
The booming sound is always there with radio on or off. I read somewhere in their brochure that vehicle with VCM has "Active Noise Cancellation". And that is done by the radio sending out the "out of phase noise signal" to the speakers to cancel out the original noise caused by running 3 cylinders instead of 6. So by turning off radio, I would eliminate the radio being the culprit. Unless the radio still producing this sound while it is off. Next time, I'll stick my ear next to the car speaker (while my wife doing the driving of course) to check it out.
JNT
It does, otherwise this would be a useless feature.
"Next time, I'll stick my ear next to the car speaker (while my wife doing the driving of course) to check it out."
I doubt you'll hear anything.
1. If you have a carseat that use the LATCH system for securing to the seat, the carseat is "self-contained" within the vehicle seat - allowing you to slide the vehicle seat forward/backward - and not restricted by the vehicle seatbelts or the carseat itself.
2. There is a cupholder on the side of the seat. Imagine tilting the chair when there's a cup of pop in the holder.
3. Similarly, if you items on the seat, tilting it will knock them off.
My previous van was a 97 Caravan and I hated the sound of the metal "clang/boing" resonating after I push the 2nd-row seat back down.
IMO, Honda got it.
Steve, Host
I don't know why VCM doen't activate at that time. Can somebody explain this?
As I interpret the ECO light, it simply indicates when you are using the least amount of fuel possible to maintain the current speed (though I'm sure that is an oversimplification on my part). But, when stopped, your instantaneous MPG is ZERO, so, no matter what mode the engine is operating in, you aren't going to see any increase in your MPG.
Of course, this could all be BS on my part....
The ECO light is the idiot light equivalent of a mpg gauge and is pretty worthless. It is easy to know when it will come on and turn off just from the driving conditions. It will come on whenever you ease off of the gas pedal and will turn off whenever you have to depress the gas pedal to maintain speed or to accelerate. A VCM light or a mpg gauge would have been much more useful.
Correct. However, my point was that 'styling' is a subjective quality. A person who LIKES the Sienna front-end styling shouldn't put off a Sienna purchase simply because OTHER people don't like the styling.
Getting back to the seat comfort, you noted the fact that a wide range of automotive press have remarked on the Sienna's front-end styling. Tell me, how many individuals in the automotive press have remarked about the uncomfortable nature of the Odyssey front seats? I've read quite a few reviews and I counted......one. The guy from epinions.com.
As far as Isell goes, he is simply stating that HE PERSONALLY has not experienced a single individual who complained about seat comfort in the Ody TO HIM. Does that mean that NO ONE is experiencing seat discomfort? Hardly. However, it does seem to indicate that seat discomfort is not as widespread of a problem as you and a handful of owners would have us believe.
I only know ONE thing for certain about the seat comfort on the Ody: I have some back and shoulder problems and the Ody front seats feel good to me. The ONLY thing I don't like about driving the Ody is I have to run the seat further forward than my legs would like in order for my arms to feel comfortable. This is not a problem with the seat design; this is a problem due to the lack of a telescoping steering wheel.
We purchased our 2005 Odyssey EX on Dec. 31 off the showroom floor. Since it was the demo car, I was a little concerned about how long it had been sitting on the showroom. The dealer told me that they received the car in Nov. 2004 on a trade and I didn't investigate further. WELL, since driving the car, I've noticed a lot of wind noise (no whistling though), and I just checked the door sticker which states that the car was manufactured in August 2004.
Is there a good chance that my car has a wind noise problem since it was manufactured in August? How much wind noise is too much? Also, should I be concerend in general that my car was sitting around from August to Dec.? I don't know when manufacturing began on the 2005 Odyssey, but I don't like the idea of having one of the first manufactured cars (if that's the case) since I'm sure there are always kinks to be worked out.
I never said the seat problem was wide-spread. In fact, how would I know for sure? But that same question can be asked of Isell, who seems to dismiss anyone who has experienced a problem with seat comfort (or any other complaint, for that matter). He insinuated that because HE PERSONALLY has not received a complaint, then it must not be a legitimate issue.
BTW, all posts here concerning seat discomfort seem to mention the lumbar support as the problem-- same as the Epinions reviewer. Perhaps it's a coincidence. If you read the article, the reviewer said the passenger seat (which lacks the lumbar support) was much more comfortable.
Again, it will be interesting to see what--if any--running changes are made to the seat design, as well as the reason given.