Toyota Yaris

eurocruiser

I am 6'3" myself and got my Yaris LE last week. I have plenty of leg and head-room left in the car. My 8 year old even sat in the back behind me without complaining of being squished.

I am very happy with my purchase

jordis

Thanks for your reply. I want to get the LE too, and I was afraid the front leg room would not be enough for a tall person like me. Here in America would be the 3 doors available only, which is fine for me. You people were lucky to have it so soon, here we have to wait until spring.
Is the rear seat split on the LE? Does it falls flat? I have read it would only be split "flat" for the RS.
Thanks again. I wish you the best of luck with your Yaris

double

The rear seat only folds flat on the RS. The CE and LE do not have a split rear seat and when down lies at about a 10 degree angle because of the seat back resting on the actual seat. There is a hard plastic cover which flips up onto the back when down. :mad:

tundradude

Does it drive like a echo? I know my xB drives in a way like the echo without the sway or being floaty. Just curious.

double

Better ride than the Echo as the geometry was changed. No float feeling on highway. Quieter also. And better feel in the shifter(manual).

barnee61

Anyone else picked up their new Yaris? Impressions? I've been trying to take one for a test drive but the dealer has been selling them as fast as they come in, so so far no luck. ...

double

That seems to be the problem. Haven't brought enough in so the dealers can have a tester. Hamilton is the same way. When I picked mine up it had 25 klicks on it and that wasn't what was on the final bill of sale. No doubt someone had a ride in it before me. Kind of piss's you off and they were told in no uncertain terms. Got a goodie out of them though, a deflector. Big deal a 70 buck option. :mad:

barnee61

You've driven an Echo previously? Can you tell me how the Yaris compares in terms of acceleration, handling, ride, and overall "feel" (driveability)?

I've driven my friend's Echo hatch many times, and it's a great little runabout, but was wondering if the Yaris feels a little more substantial?

thanks!

double

Acceleration is excellant. I also have a Miata ("97) and feel it is on a par under hard acceleration. Ride is definitely smooth as with the softening of the suspension but not to a point of being wishy washy. You can push it into turns. I don't believe the RS model will do it any better, just a little flashier. At present with only a couple of weeks under the belt with this wee beasty I am quite satisfied with the over all car. Yes I had driven a Echo before. Have been back and forth to Toronto several time and definitely can keep up with whatever is going. A few little niggly things but I think I mentioned those before. The shifter/clutch I still need to get a total handle on as it is soft and not as direct to what Iam used too. But it will grow on you. I don't know but with the Yaris you perceive that it is larger than it is and it definitely feels larger than the Echo. But that might be just that the back end isn't cut off as abruptly.(flat) I do not baby this car, hard from the start. I did not opt for the undercoating/rustproof package as I felt it was way overpriced. Will be doing that at an aftermarket place this Tuesday for a sixth of the Toyota cost.

barnee61

Thanks for the information. Geez, what was Toyota charging for the undercoating?

Also, in a previous post you mentioned the "crappy steering wheel angle"...can you elaborate on this?

double

They have this elaborate package deal, inside outside underside you name it then they say guaranteed for the life of the car. How long do you keep these little buggers. 5 years max for me anyway. 600+...no thankyou. Now as for the steering angle. Tilt wheel. Up is like a bus,then there is 2 other positions. Personally I prefer a nearly upright position, but the wheel will go to about a 60 degrees.. You definitely can get a straight arm position though. Must be too many sports cars I've had and have.

double

Understand that the 06 run is over and any orders now will be classed as 07's Wow only took 3 weeks to loose a year.

barnee61

Three weeks, wild. Will the 07's come with a corresponding price increase? :P

double

I wouldn't be surprised. When I ordered mine in September they were using Echo '05 pricing to start off the BS session of haggling. :P

barnee61

I was joking re price increase but hey, you never know. Hopefully they will hold the line on the current price for a while!

Still enjoying the Yaris? Holding its own on the QEW?

double

No problem on the QEW, will be blasting down on Monday to Toronto bucking the hordes.

nwng

my impression of driving on the QEW is like nascar racing on a public road. You're doing 85 mph bumper to bumper

double

That could be right, but just keep your wits about you and you can still draft. lol :shades:

hoperrs

for delivery in April (My choice of date). I was very impressed with the demo and test drive. Should be a great car for the city. Ordered it with the B package, roof rails, rust proofing, bayou blue colour.

swbo101

Our Yaris is actually being built at the moment. Meanwhile, we have been offered a 72mo./120 000km extended warranty at 1 275$ + tax. What do you recommend? We want to keep this car the longest possible time.

719b

put the $1,275 + tax into an account drawing interest and you'll be better off.
the drive train has a 60 month warranty from the manufacturer which is where most costly repairs are. you're paying $1,275 + tax to extend the warranty for one year.
put your money in the account and use it if necessary... if not, you're ahead whatever is in the account.

double

Pass on the warrenty. To pricey for what you gain. Do what the previous post suggested. Watch out they will want to bid you up on all the extras to make more money for the dealership. This is where they make there $$$$$$$$$ :P

barnee61

I also would pass. Based on previous experiences with Tercels and Echos, the engines are pretty much bulletproof and the cars run forever. Change the oil at regular intervals, put in gas and go.

Welcome to ToyotaLand....

hoperrs

I am probably going to pass on the ECP as well. I'm expecting the Yaris to last a long time for what we have to pay for it.

swbo101

Thanks to everyone who answered about the ECP. Now, as winter is breaking in, is it worth a dealer's 500$ + tax "one-shot-good-for-eight years" rustproofing job or to have it done once a year in the summer? We are in this part of Canada where there is more salt than gravel in the de-icing mixture they put on the roads.

barnee61

Personally, if you are going to keep the car for a long time, I would go for the rustproofing if you are in the salt zone. Although I know a lot of people would probably disagree. I like the one shot application, I've actually found it to be better. The once a year stuff is messy (if doesn't necessarily drip, but it "creeps" around the doors), and I've found it less effective. I had the floor rust out of a Volks, even with the once a year thing. Never had a problem with a car properly treated with a "lifetime" treatment.

That being said, I've never paid close to $500. The dealer marks it up almost 100 per cent so they can profit as well as the rustproofing guys. Offer them $300 or $350. If they they say no, you say "no", then get it done by the company that would have been doing it for the dealer (Ziebart, Diamond Kote etc.). The mark up from retail on the rustproofing is pure dealer profit.

Good luck.

fdanna

I've never heard anyone ever recommend rust-proofing other than the dealer. Nor have I ever heard anyone say "thank god I paid for that rust-proofing." The bottom line is if the parts are made of high quality galvanized metal and you do your part in regular washes and the occasional wax, then you've done all you can to prevent rust.

Save your cash: Say NO to dealer add-ons :-)

barnee61

OK I will say it..."thank god I paid for that rustproofing". I live in a zone where they road-salt in the winter (Ottawa ON), and salt is hell on cars here. Washing is fine if you do it every single day, and don't mind it freezing up your doors and windows afterwards. And if the temperature goes above freezing during the day, washing is actually counter productive...because the moisture and the salt together are a deadly combination.

You live in Mass US, so your experience is different. I wouldn't buy rustproofing if I lived there either. All depends on where you live and how long you'd like to keep the car.

I agree....NO to dealer add ons. Buy it separately if you actually need/want it. And NEVER pay for the fabric protection or anything silly like that. Can of 3M Scotch Guard, $10, five minutes....same thing. Save hundreds.

odman

Dealer rust proofing is far more expensive than a treatment at Rust Chek or Crown. None of the dealers do it themselves either -- they farm it out to local suppliers. You may as well go direct and save $.

Kirstie_H

If you visit this discussion:
Dealer Add-ons and Extras - are they worth it?
Most of the experts will tell you to stay away from a lot of that stuff, but there are some add-ons that are worth considering.

fdanna

Well, we get tons of salt dumped on the road here, in addition to the sand, and our cars in this climate don't last nearly as long as they do in the south. We have one of the harshest climates for cars in the US. It can go from -40 to +100 and everytime there is precipitation during the winter, salt is dumped.

Now, to keep this Yaris related, I'm quite sure that its a complete waste of money on peace-of-mind rustproofing. If you look in your Toyota owner's manual, it might even recommend against it. I've seen it in other manuals. I've been to Quebec several times and vehicles aren't rusted there even though they're covered with salt and I'm sure they don't all have rust proofing.

Consumer Reports says this about add-ons: Don't accept those unnecessary services and fees. If the items are on the bill of sale, put a line through them. Vehicle bodies are already coated to protect against rust. And CR reliability surveys show that rust is not a major problem with modern cars. You can treat upholstery and apply paint protectant yourself with good off-the-shelf products. You can also do your own VIN etching with a kit that costs about $25.

dudleyr

Dealer applied rustproofing can actually make the car rust faster. If it is not applied perfectly in can create more places for the salt to collect. I would pay quite a bit less for a car with dealer rustproofing than for one without it.

All cars today come with very good factory rustproofing.

-Dudley

swbo101

Thanks to all. I see it's about 50/50 for applying a rust-proofing product and another 50/50 for who will do the job!
So, I'll have only 50% of the car rust-proofed: 25% by the dealer and 25% by an aftermarket provider!
Change of subject: with the back seat not being able to be completely flat-folded, will that be a pain in the neck when it comes to carry large objects? I think there will be a 10% incline. And will putting heavy objects on this folded-down rear seatback damage the fixed-seat under it by being too compressed?

barnee61

I looked at a base model at the dealer and folded the seat down....for a small car, it has a very large capacity for carrying stuff with the seat folded. It doesn't fold completely flat unfortunately, but the incline isn't bad. It's too bad you have to get the RS for the fold-flat, sliding seat though.

Heavy objects? Sure, if you haul a load of bricks it will probably damage the seat. But suitcases, a 30 inch TV, some IKEA boxes...no problem.

metalslime

Hello everyone,

I ordered a 2006 yaris back in October and have been waiting patiently for it's arrival ever since...however this week my dealer sent me a message stating that all the orders for the yaris are going to be pushed back because they are re-releasing it as a 2007 in Canada when it hits the US market, he goes on to tell me that I likely won't be able to get my car till the spring...so I ask you guys...What's up with this?

double

I mentioned that back in #586. Well at least you will get a '07. Mine lost a year in just 3 weeks. How is that for depreciation. We ordered near the end of September. Dealers realy had to know there would be a cut-off date back then. Looks like the US will still have the 4 door Echo along with the Yaris hatch. By the way you should be able to cancil your order and get your deposit back as they have renagged on an '06. Your choice, as there is more options out there now than there was in October! :mad:

mister_yaris

So, will the "newly" relased 07 have side aibags all round? Any sites showing details?

barnee61

Interesting...will they repackage with respect to availability of side & curtain airbags, ABS, and the flat-folding/slding rear seat. And reprice as well?

Never seen a model year that lasts 1 month before!!!!

:confuse:

double

What your asking for is shown to be included in the UK site. Who knows how they will package it for south of the border. But you can be sure the price will be at least another 10%. Bummer :surprise:

mister_yaris

I'd pay more for side air bags (you get what you pay for).

barnee61

The British "Yaris" is actually still what we knew as the Echo (body style), packaged differently with 4 or 5 engine choices, including diesel.

I don't think the 2007 Canadian Yaris packaging will change very much. But yes, if they do decide to include side air bags and ABS, that would precipitate a big price jump.

That said, I really don't think they'll do that, as they want to keep the entry price point low enough to reasonably compete with the Accent, the Rio etc. As such, they'll likely keep ABS as part of the upgrade.

Will side bags be offered? Who knows....

barnee61

If the 2006 Yaris run is done, when are the 2007s expected to begin arriving in Canada?

Very very strange, because Toyota Canada is currently doing a major Yaris campaign with commercials on both television and radio. Why would they do this if the 2006s are gone, and 2007s will arrive in the spring to coincide with the U.S. introduction?

Doesn't make sense. Me no get it. :confuse:

sniffles

If my conversion is correct, the 2006 Canadian Yaris has an 11.1 US gallon fuel tank. I would assume that this will be the same size tank on the Yaris when it comes to the US in the Spring. The US Echo always had an 11.9 gallon tank. I wish Toyota wasn't putting in a smaller fuel tank in the Yaris. I wish they would have designed it for a 13.2 US gallon fuel tank. I like traveling long distances on one tank of gas. You also wouldn't have to stop as often for gas. This is just my 2 cents.

sniffles

found this article while surfing:

http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_toyota_yaris_production/

double

Just hype to get you in the showroom. That article says February launch for the US but don't hold your breath. Dealers are doing April order delivery now here so what does that tell you. Yaris will be no different as a '07 model. And to the other, is not 450 mile range not enough for you then carry a jerry can. Come on! :confuse:

sniffles

Nope, I disagree with you. I've taken a lot of long trips and 450 miles is not enough. My 2003 Echo 5 speed can go over 400 miles on 3/4 of a tank averaging 47-48 mpg on a long trip. Auto makers should be putting in larger gas tanks as Ford did with the Focus last year when they increased it's tank to 14 US gallons due to consumer demand. I guess Toyota could only put in an 11.1 US gallon tank in the new Yaris due to it's design.

barnee61

For most people a 450 mile range is probably OK, because the Yaris is mainly a city run-about. Highway capable, sure, but in most cases it will see primarily city use.
Bigger capacity fuel tank would be better, of course. But there may be design limitations.

For me, a 450 mile range would be great....I'm only getting a 450 KILOMETRE (280 miles) range on my 2002 Blazer. That's on a 77 litre (20 U.S. gallons tank).

So 450 miles on 11 gallons in the Yaris will be GREAT. Can't wait till June when the lease on the Big Thirsty Blazer is done. :shades:

sniffles

Yes, I can see your point. I guess I'm one of the few who would use the Yaris for long trips and would like a bigger gas tank. I wish they would have at least kept the Yaris's gas tank at 11.9 US gallons like the US Echo. :-(

barnee61

It would have been nice to keep it at the Echo's tank capacity, for sure. But at least they made some nice changes to the Yaris which should make it a good highway performer for you....much quieter, better ride and handling. Or at least "so I hear"....I haven't been able to test drive one yet, as they dealer has been selling the few they get as soon as they arrive!

marmaladesix

Hi,

We ordered our Yaris in October as well, and we're still waiting for it too. It was supposed to have been delivered on the 18th, but now 10 days later, we're still Yaris-less. Our dealership said the delay is due to the transport company 'not cooperating', and that our car is in Toronto on the truck unable to make it the 50km or so to us in Burlington. Has anyone else in the GTA experienced this? We are very unhappy with the level of service and information Burlington Toyota have given us regarding our car, so if anyone in Burlington is looking to buy a Toyota, we recommend you go to Oakville or Hamilton instead!