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Franken-volvo
It would make an ok trail only vehicle as long as the axels and T-case are good. Everything else does not matter. EAS would be swapped out for coil springs and the 4.0 would get ditched for a 4.0/4.6 hybrid combo. Strip all of the interior and who cars about the exterior.
I honestly like this
If it doesn't have a rotted frame or anything severe like that, I like this for $5,000. This car has to be worth the mid to high teens once it's up to no 3 shape.
This Malibu I'm not so crazy about.
Alledgedly rolling chassis
What's so precious about the steeting box that he's got to take it out?
One last one:
3 inch cowl hood and 2.8 liter V6 go well together.
With IROCs going for $1500, why not start with one of those?
Malibu - couple of hundred dollars in body parts, I guess. Apparently it isn't worth the money as a complete car or he wouldn't have taken out every single mechanical part, including the apparently very important steering box.
Camaro - what a pile. Junkyard time.
Not that there's really any difference in value most likely between a '79 and an '80 Malibu. I had an '80, and it wasn't a bad car. I like the '79 style a bit better though because the grille is a bit less formal and the front-end has a more aggressive thrust to it.
I'd imagine the thing originally had a junk 200 V-6 or 267 V-8 in it, hooked to the sucky THM200C tranny, and he pulled that out and was going to build this into a hotrod. It's actually pretty common to do that with 1978-81 Malibus, because they're about the smallest, lightest body-on-frame car that GM ever made, and can accommodate a big-block. As for the steering box, maybe he had installed a quicker ratio unit out of a copcar or maybe a Grand National, Monte SS or something, and wants to hang onto it. I'd think he'd want to keep the Grand National rear as well, but it's probably easier to sell a non-running car that can still roll, versus one that can't!
Back then they also offered a 305 V-8 that put out, IIRC, 145 hp with the 2-bbl and 160 with the 4-bbl. A 350 was also optional but seldom ordered. It had 170 hp, which doesn't sound that much better than the 305-4, but I'm sure it had a lot more torque.
I get nostalgic for my old Malibu sometimes, but not enough to go seek out one that needs a total rebuild! Besides, I have fond memories of that car and remember is as a good car. If I had a chance to drive one nowadays, it would probably crack my rose-tinted glasses! :shades:
I had a '79 Cutlass Calais (RWD) with the chevy 305 4bbl. It ran good, but an intake design flaw would cause the #8 plug to fuel foul every 5K or so. GM mechanic said it was a common problem on the '79 305.
Funny thing about that TH200 tranny. From day one, mine had a very soft "whirring" sound under hard acceleration, particularly 2nd gear. But 74K miles later I had not a single problem with it. Go figure.
Oh MY! I just went back and looked at that ad again and realized the idiot (I guess the paint job already covered that description :P ) listed that as a CHEVY CUTLAS.
Heresy!
Clone cars have become a big thing and sometimes problem on the collector car circuit. If we're at the point where people are cloning 79 Malibus out of 80s, we're out of control.
I of course would like to see the Mustang have an interior. It's not in condition where you could drive it home but practically everything is available repro. Let's say 3 grand later, the car has a pristine interior, you're still in pretty good shape.
My 1980 Malibu had that TH200 tranny, and I never recall it having any problems. My Mom bought it new, gave it to me in 1987 with around 79,000 miles on it, and I sold it in 1990 when it was a bit over the 100,000 mile mark. I had bought a 1969 Dodge Dart GT by then, and couldn't afford to keep both cars. I ran into the people I sold it to about a year later, and they had 115,000 miles on it, and said they loved it and hadn't had any problems with it.
But then, I had a 1982 Cutlass Supreme with the "superior" THM350 tranny. And had it rebuilt around the 62,000 mile mark. So sometimes ya just never know. Now to be fair, I bought this car used, in 1993, with 61,000 miles on it, for $800, so it may simply not have been taken care of. In contrast, I remember Mom got the tranny serviced on the Malibu every year, and once she gave it to me I kept up on that.
Both of them just had V-6es, as well. 229 for the Malibu, 231 for the Cutlass. I wondered if just having the V-6 in the 'Bu might have also contributed to the long transmission life, whereas a V-8 might have put more strain on it?
As for that #8 plug fouling, was it a 1979-only problem? Reason I'm asking is that I have a 1985 Silverado with a 305, and I wonder if it might do the same thing? Hopefully GM had the foresight to correct it by then!
We had an '83 Calais with the Olds 307 and TH350 (I think) and never had problems with it, either. Come to think of it, my family has owned about 12 Cutlass' between us, and all were solid performers.
And GM dumped Olds. That's what happens when bean counters take the company away from car people.
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Well, to be fair, its a V6 that has less displacement than most 4-cylinders on the market.
Mazda is not known for efficiency, that's for sure. I'm not really sure what they are doing wrong, but even their most current engines suck gas without giving too much in return.
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Do you remember if that '83 Calais had overdrive or not? If it was an overdrive unit, then it was actually a 4-speed version of the THM200. I think they called it THM200-R4 or osmething like that. Earlier versions of this tranny, which came out in 1981, could be troubleprone, but in a rare move I think GM actually got on the ball and worked the kinks out of this tranny pretty quickly. My grandma had a 1985 LeSabre 307 with this tranny, that was troublefree as long as we had the car, 157,000 miles. My Mom had an '86 Monte with a 305-4bbl and this tranny, and it was still doing fine at 192,000 miles when I got t-boned one night delivering pizzas in it and the car went to bow-tie heaven.
I wouldn't mind getting another Cutlass Supreme coupe sometime, but with the 307 instead of the V-6. In spite of the tranny pooping out and the engine self-destructing, I really liked that car.
I think it's better @ 3500 than 5, but you have to think of the ceiling. V8 Mustang convertibles can go for a great deal of money. Show quality would probably fetch in the 20s or higher.
I wonder about the interior parts are well. If you're planning on restoring the car, you just don't put everything in a dumpster yet he doesn't mention the parts. You'd at least hold on to the seats to see about having them redone. Maybe he's selling whatever is good separately.
On this thread, we think that everything is overpriced and most are.
This is an unusual style
It has its own zip code
Shifty-mobile
Someone somewhere might want to save it
And the engine looks suspicious---might not be the right one.
Sure you can get $30,000 for a really spiff '68 Mustang convertible, but you'll spend $30,000 on this one getting there....
I'd say if it ran well and had an interior, even a shabby one, and windows that worked, it'd be worth $5,000 to just drive around and leave the top down in the rain like the previous owner obviously did.
Anyway, if you got this as is with a PARTS car included for $3,500, that might be okay. But you'll never make a nice car out of this stray dog without taking it completely apart, IMHO.
If it were a numbers correct 65-67 GT with a 4-speed, I'd say go for it.
Why do all this just to sell it for $4k??
I noticed this at its first price ... looks much better at the new price.
Ya gotta worry when the paint doesn't even look good from THIS far away!
Just because you think its desirable, doesn't mean it is. Yes, its rare. Yes, some folks actually look to buy the Bertones ... but no way is it worth that!!
Here's a car where you just CAN'T be skimpy on the description and pics like this.
Is it just me or does this seem too cheap? May be a scam, but they usually seem to use more recent or more desirable cars. Although its the same layout as most of the scams (VIN included). I'll email and find out.
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Who the hell buys something like this and then puts it away for nearly 30 years? :confuse:
Cool old Squire, but yeah his price is a few times too high.
Nice late fintail...rare floor shift
For some reason the single-headlight models look too stubby to me, whereas the ones with the vertical quads look "just right"
Looks like that ad was yanked by management.
Like you said, who would do that?
Even if by some odd stroke of weird fate, it DOES only have 600 miles, there is no way to prove it.
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Another strange thing is that I've tried emailing the seller twice on that SC400 and craigslist mailer demon has kicked it back twice ... yet the ad still stands and the address has not changed. Hmmmm...
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If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I think I'd actually consider this one.
"This posting has been removed by craigslist staff."
Low Mileage Wonders: I mean, WHO CARES how many miles a 1978 Ford Station Wagon has on it? Like it matters? Try $5,000.
Maybe Craigs is glitching today ... or maybe its me.
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Shifty, the WRX STI is a bit rough, but when you pay extra to have all the sound deadening/heat insulation removed, what do you expect?
The HG problem was an issue in the 2.5L from its intro in 1996 until at least 2002 (if it was a problem after that, not cropping up enough yet to be recognized by Subaru). They put out a TSB on '99 through part of '02. Only. A real stab in the back for the '96 through '98 owners.
Anyway, if this one did not have any problems as the owner suggests, I'd be tempted to fly down there and buy it just to have a car with 50% the miles! It probably does not have the best fit/finish of all the makes, but I've seen scarce few cars that can compare to it in winter driving - and I live for winter driving...
WRX-- yeah, I often wondered why someone thought that taking out 30 lbs of sound-deadening was really the competitive edge while driving to the mall. The EVO has a similar model (was it the RS?)...if you open the trunk you can see the springs on the back seat!
Really? I'd be surprised.
Just replacing the timing belt on our '98 Forester took me and my father a few hours. What an annoying task! Lining up 4 cams and keeping them in place while trying to snake on the belt drove me to kick the car several times.
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Maybe $1k or maybe $2k ... he can't decide how to price this old Lesabre. Pics would be nice either way.
Hmmmm... whaddya think? Too cheap?
Not my thing, but maybe someone here would like to see this cutlass.
Keep dreaming.
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Might be neat, not expensive for a coupe, is that an early teens brass T beside it?
Something not seen every day
About that Squire, I bet the miles are real. I bet it was saved by some kooky dealer who saw it as the last of the big fullsized cars before the downsized 79s came about. The same people who saved all those 78 Eldos you can now find with no mileage.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/car/192557021.html
Grr. I have to stop thinking about it because really, I am tempted - but the kicker is that it would have to be in honestly reliable enough condition for a quick 4500 mile sprint back to Alaska. :mad:
Whew. Saved. The author deleted the post, so must have sold already.
"it could use some new fuses"
Now let's take that line apart a bit. Are the fuses like...too heavy to lift into the fuse box? Were they too expensive?
Or, in fact, when you put a fuse in it goes POP! and then you get a whiff of smoke from the wiring harness and no radio, no dash lights, no tail lights, no heater blower and no top......