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No way that sucker has been sitting for fifteen years without maintenance and is still with a full freon charge. The compressor seals would have leaked down in that time.
I have read the ad about four times, and something just seems hinky. If that car is what she says, and she is asking $1K, it would have been gone in an hour, tops.
I still somehow don't think it's even an 88.
Anyway, he buys a new Caddy every couple of years, and I don't think the last four or five saw 10K miles. How do you price something like this? Best I can figure is 25-27K?
Oh, I think he said DeVille. That's what Buck always liked to drive.
I believe this is what is referred to as legal disclaimer on that Monte Carlo
1988 was a very abbreviated year for the Monte. Production wrapped up by December of 1987, and GM only ran off about 25,000 Montes that year. I thought they were all LSes and SSes, but I guess it's possible the base sport coupe lasted through then. Anybody got a reference book handy?
The LS also had a nicer velour interior, and not that "wet rat" look that seemed to permeate the base model and the SS. And the LS had SS-style taillights, which were a bit sleeker than the base Monte.
That model year they also ran off about 25,000 Cutlass Supreme "Classics". However, the RWD Regal and Grand Prix finished up in 1987. For some reason, Pontiac and Buick got their FWD W-bodies to the market a few months sooner than Olds. And Chevy wouldn't make it until 1990, with the Lumina.
Next up, a guy it work wants to sell his 240SX because a baby seat won't fit in it. It looks to be a '96 base model in nice used car shape. I guess the color is burgundy. 155K miles and an automatic. Still has pink sorority stickers and license plate frame on it. How much should I pay this guy before he trades it for a Camry? Or is a 240SX too girly for an incredibly manly man like me to drive for a couple of months? It is so hard to price these because all I can find are complete piles of crap or highly modified ones or sometimes highly modified piles of crap.
Light brown accented with dark brown cross design on withers and spine, excellent fuel economy, certainly has a kick in it. Answers to "Donkey-Hotie"
$1250
http://www.davidsonmotor.net/used-cars.asp
I wonder when he'll drop the price.
I like the Bluebird bus. Would make a good home for DonkeyHotie. hehe.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Edmunds, or KBB, or auction value plus a few bucks. Pick yer poison.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Of course you still have warranty, and that's a very good thing on a domestic car. I wouldn't see this car as serving you for more than a few years though. Why don't you check on depreciation values and see how that looks--maybe you could buy it and then bail at 50,000 and get the best part out of the car for yourself and still recover some $$$ for what will probably still be relatively low miles in the year 2009.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I kinda like the '89 3/4 ton big block Suburban on that Texas dealer's homepage. The '96 Roadhazzard ain't bad, either.
Is Donkey-Hotie about to get it on with that goat? What is the average retail price of a jackass these days?
It's not too girlie a car for you...you could make it more manly I'm sure...maybe zebra skin slip covers?
My Volvo didn't do so great, either ... but at least I drove it ALOT.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
CarMax will give about 21K for it. I would go with that and just avoid the hassle. It isn't like he really needs the money.
'71 Mustang Convertible. The guy just bought it for $3K, and now he wants $5K. At least he is honest about that.
$34,500 for a Karmann Ghia?
Karmann Ghia -- wasn't that the name of the gay choreographer's assistant in Mel Brooks "The Producers"? Funny movie.
Ghias are cheap to repair MECHANICALLY but not cosmetically. They are unibodies and the fenders don't come off like on a bug. Also, any trim pieces are very very expensive. So all in all, not an easy restoration if you have to re-work the body or replace missing pieces. Your best friend will be a welding torch.
but being a '96 it has the more desirable kouki nose and should be a 5-lug. If you ever get bored, you can do a 5-speed conversion, toss in a blacktop SR20DET, and make a man car out of it.Edit: I forgot the koukis were '97-98.
Fer instance, if I had a car with 10,000 miles and told you a connecting rod went through the hood, you'd say "oh, man, that's pretty unusual"....but if I told you on that 240SX thta the engine disintegrated on the highway, you'd say "well what do you expect for 155,000 miles?"
My grandmother had one of these that, other than the color (and it being a '91), could have been its twin. She traded it on a 1997 F350 crew LB that had a "Waldoch" conversion on it. The dealership wanted $46,000 for the truck and she ended up paying $31K out the door. I have no idea how the dealership wrote up the trade-in value, but she swears she got $15,000 for her Lincoln. Hahah... I hate to tell her otherwise....
As usual, I wish they'd say what engine it has. "8-cylinder" doesn't really narrow it down, as there were 5 of them available that year. 260, 350-2bbl, 400-4bbl, 455-4bbl, and something I'm forgetting. 305 maybe? Or a 350-4bbl?
Bulletproof SWB W140 eh? No way. I wonder if he'd let me shoot at it, just to be sure.
My old boss (who mercifully retired) had a 96 or 97 TC she bought new, and would always whine about the low trade in value. What did she expect?
Yeah, I thought that was kinda funny, too! However, one thing I noticed, last time I sat in a Town Car at the auto show, is they just don't seem as roomy inside as what I remember the older ones being. Unless I'm still growing, which I would hope not at the age of 36!
Just for kicks (and to kill time, waiting for my garage floor to dry out so I can finally paint it...yay!), I looked up some interior volume specs on www.fueleconomy.gov.
2006 Town Car: 112/21 (passenger/trunk volume)
1990 Town Car: 118/22
1985 Town Car: 116/22
So it actually IS smaller inside. Not enough to make it noticeable for most people, I'd imagine. I wonder what they did to it with the latest style to make it lose 6 cubic feet of interior space? A foot of trunk room is pretty inconsequential at that size. IIRC, the 2007 Camry lost something like 2 cubic feet, going from ~17 to ~15. That would be more noticeable.
Just for comparison the biggest car in my fleet, my '79 NYer is something like 108/21 IIRC so I guess I shouldn't whine about the new Town Car not being roomy enough. Especially when you consider my NYer rides a slightly longer wheelbase and I think it's about 5-6 inches longer.
I think the newer cars get a lot of that interior volume because they're tall, though. That's not necessarily going to make a car feel bigger inside like more legroom or shoulder room would.
Last weekend I sat in a 1974 NYer 4-door hardtop. I found some specs once on a '78, and it was only EPA-rated at around 106/22! Yet that sucker felt huge inside to me! It was harder to get into and out of than a newer car because the doors were thick and the openings weren't that big, and the whole car sits kinda low. But once inside, it just felt vast compared to any car built today.
Still, having a few more cubic feet of interior room doesn't justify the high price they want for that "classic" 1990! :P
Clever machining and other drastic measures can allegedly cure this.
Looks sound in the pics
Could be a nice driver
Not a project, but I wonder if it could even be brought into the states
ten or moreeight (ten for exotics) digits before the decimal point. Of course, if you do have that kind of money, you can pick something better than a vest-pocket R-class.The new Merc GL450 also looks like the GX470 from lexus.
Poor mecedes really needs to get back on track style wise or just give up on creating all of these new vehicle segments.
re: Mercedes styling, I won't disagree. Some reforms need to be made. Looking like a Lexus is not a good thing (although Lexus does own the pretentious side of the SUV market - at least around here where the RX is the trophy wife vehicle of choice, so I can see why they might do it)
The bigger they are, the harder they fall
The motor does not run, I actually have never tried running the car since buying it but do know that it has at least a blown headgasket, if not rings as well .... This would be an easy fixer...
ummm... wait ... come again?? If he thinks an engine rebuild is an easy fix ... maybe I could pay him to do it? Ya think? What would it take? An easy job like that? Two 6-packs?
$1200 obo (Please no lowballers!)
How exactly do you lowball a $1200 asking price? I mean, even going halfsies is ONLY $600.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Also, the B is quite a bit bigger, especially inside.
My mom's got an '03 A class. Not my favorite car in the world, but if you need something small, with decent room inside and good safety, it's a realistic choice.
Seems to me Mercedes needs to decide who they want to be. I wish they'd decide to be the company with the Mercedes virtues from 20 years ago. Solid, safe, reliable, with great build quality. They might even get the German taxi business back ;-)
-Mathias
The Mercedes SUV got made fun of when it first came out for looking too much like a Hyundai SUV.
There is a Vanagon Westy for sale around here I might go take a look at. I figure that will end the risk of speeding tickets for me.