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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    but the work could have been done years ago when it was still worth something (??)

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    which do you think they want to get rid of more?

    http://newjersey.craigslist.org/car/196916406.html

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    tires, battery, and fresh inspection sticker alone are worth it.

    oh, i see, it "slips only in first." Now I understand why its worth more than full retail. :/

    ummm... was spiderman here? what the hell is that?? And where does that fit in the description? Is that a "small door ding" or one of the "few bumper scratches"?

    ????????????????????

    hmmmmmm..... What does the bare kit go for?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    There has to be a body either in the trunk or the basement---LOL!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well I don't expect rebuilding a 15 year old BMW 5-series automatic transmission should be much trouble---just take out your checkbook, insert the same amount as you paid for the car, and you're good to go.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    Possibly. It was done right then...I can spot old MB leather textures from a mile away, and that looks legit. Oh well, a mystery is fun.

    That $500 Caddy indeed has to be worth it.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    I'm surprised there has been no comment on the kit MGTD.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,414
    "and if you know anything about pinto's, you know that this is a deal."

    No comment needed.. lol

    I am pretty surprised to see the fake wood trim. I thought that they saved that for the Bobcats.
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    I just e-mailed the seller, just politely asked if he's sure it's an '85 (if so, it has a later dash and interior, like you said), and if he can supply the VIN (I have a great Mercedes book....er, I thought, it doesn't do much to decode VINs, though). The driver's airbag also looks post-1985 (the center on the '85s is a tiny bit boxier, and the three-pointed star is bigger, at least on those I've seen). I don't think this car is an '85 or earlier, unless someone went WAY too far out of their way to disguise this as a later model (which ten or fifteen years ago wouldn't have surprised me but now seems crazy).
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    I think you're right about that airbag cover. The early ones were boxier. It's hard to tell, but the entire steering wheel looks to be the type switched to in 88/89 where they went from a rougher/grainier material to a smooth leather. I can't imagine a person doctoring up an older car to such detail.

    I should be able to decode the VIN
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    " I can't imagine a person doctoring up an older car to such detail."

    I can, especially if you are piecing together one badly wrecked car from several in a wrecking yard. :surprise:
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Usually with something like that, a picture will tell you a lot. There isn't much to comment on as he doesn't tell us what type of donor engine and frame he is using. I guess maybe you are thinking any complete kit has to be worth $500, and perhaps that is right. I wouldn't want the kit at any price (if I had to make use of it, that is).
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    and my boss goes hey you want a free range rover????

    Uhhh yeah sure pete whatever funny funny.

    "No I am serious," he says ",_____(a prominent judge in central CT area) stopped by last night after you left and he has a 1987 range Rover in his garage that he has owned since new that he does not want anymore. He figured we would know someone that wants it and offered it up for free just to get it off his property."

    So we are going over later in the day to look at it and I will try and grab some pictures if I can find the dealership digital camera.
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Usually I live by the old motto "If it's free, it's for me." In this case I would only take it if it is a driver.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Runs and drives fine according to the judge but does have 300,000 miles on it so anything could pop at anytime.

    Transmissions aren't so bad for those vehicles but engines are very expensive and not as plentiful so...

    Would make an interesting trail vehicle though.
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    How do you want to spend your $5500?

    '51 Willys Truck - I like it; no idea what it is worth.

    1940 Packard

    1923 Ford T-bucket

    '56 Caddy

    389 Catalina

    '67 Galaxie convertible

    Big-Bumper MGB titled as salvage to save on taxes?

    '81 DeLorean project - I can't imagine this is a good idea at any price.

    '87 560SL

    '97 Taurus SHO. The great reputation the early SHO's had as performance sedans is a distant memory.

    Eclipse GS-T Spyder
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    would be the Catalina, followed by the '67 Galaxie, and then the Willys truck.

    If that '56 Cadillac was running I think I'd actually put it first, but when I saw "last started in 1998", it didn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling! And the white paint with the seagreen door jambs, engine bay, and trunk opening is an artistic style that does nothing for me! :P
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I like the Galaxie followed by the Catalina and maybe the Packard.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    Yeah Pontiac and Galaxie look workable...I want to like the Packard but the weird mismatched rear wheel and the mention of rust scares me. 560SL would tempt some but I'd run...you can get really nice <100K mile ones for 15K, and that 5K car will become a 15K total investment with an engine failure.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I would say the Willys truck would be a good deal, albeit a very VERY primitive thing to drive.

    the '40 Packard would be a good beater, but I wouldn't restore it. Looks promising if cheap enough as a sunday "ice cream car" for the kids. Clutch is easy although you might need a dockyard crane to lift the transmission.

    the 560SL, if it ran well, might be a lot of car for not much $$$. The bad paint could be rectified by a $1,500 quickie paint job---these cars won't ever be collectible, so no harm done.

    The following look like pieces of crap you don't want at any price:

    Galaxie convertible, '64 Pontiac (sucks gas like you wouldn't believe!!)

    56 Cadillac is a dangerous buy---it's been sitting ten years and these cars are quite complex and not easy to work on. I'm divided on this car.

    the rest are worthless to me...late MGBs are hideous to look at, DeLoreans are...well...'nuff said....'97 SHO and Eclipse are just hand grenades waiting for the pin to slip out.

    The Ford T-bucket is just...useless...I drove one of these recently and the word that came to mind was "death wish".
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,030
    about that '64 Catalina? I admit I'd want to see more and better pics of it before I jumped on it. As for fuel economy, my '67 with a 400-4bbl will get about 17-18 on the highway. CR used to test Catalinas with the 389 and 400-2bbl, and they usually got both better performance AND better fuel economy than the Fury/Polara 318's, Galaxie smallblocks, and Impala smallblocks that they put them up against.

    Is there something about the '64 in particular? I actually prefer the '63 and '65 styling where the vertical headlights have a more aggressive thrust to them, but that '64 ain't bad. Was Pontiac still using that rotohydramatic/slim-jim or whatever it was called in '64? I don't think Bonnevilles and Star Chief/Executives, on the longer wheelbase, ever used that tranny, but Catalinas and Grand Prixes, on the shorter wheelbase, did for a few years.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    There's just no upside in fixing up a ratty '64 Pontiac with no exceptional features. It's not a 421 and it's not a Calatina. World's best 2-door might sell for $12,000 in real world money. So a ratty one is just an old money pit. If someone wanted one, I'd suggest finding a clean survivor that doesn't need anything, or working on a convertible. These cars drive great and are comfortable.

    As for gas mileage, I'd drop dead if a '64 Bonneville got 18 mpg. I never personally met a 389 that didn't suck gas like a whale eats krill. But maybe the right driver on the right day on the right highway---anything is possible if you are hell-bent on it.

    Not sure when the dreaded "slim-Jim" was discontinued, but there's a menace to watch out for as well.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    uhhh... i'll take door #12, Monty. Save my $5500 until something better comes along.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Ahhhh my eyes.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    darn. pic isn't coming up for me. :(

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    my pills...my pills...Im having a heart attack!

    Well, you can always tell what someone thinks of his Jaguar when he is anxious to trade it for an El Camino.

    Hopefully this was a Type S he mangled and not a Mark II 3.8
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Needs dubs.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    I have a feeling her boyfriend doesn't even know about this ad. And when he finds out, he won't be her boyfriend no more.

    Seems like a decent price to go with the sad story.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    LOL @ buying a cheap G-wagen from Bruno in Brooklyn. I wonder what that car has experienced.

    I thought 99s rusted in Joisey?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    '89 Vette that needs a paint job for 5.5K? Seems a tad high. Try $3,500. Nobody wants a C4 unless it's a convertible, maybe. You can buy a spiff coupe for $9K so what's the point---well, I guess you could Miracle it for $1,500 and then you're in $7K....but what have you got here?
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    Re: BMW 328 - Why, Why, WHY do people forget to mention the type of transmission... especially in something like a BMW. (It makes all the difference).

    The ad shouts: "EVERY AVAILABLE OPTION" (please turn off the caps!), but peering at the interior pic, it looks like a manual. With a stick, it would be a fun summertime ride.

    james
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I didnt' get a chance to go look at that Range Rover today so hopefuly tomorrow.

    I just want to get a picture of the odometer at least since I have never seen a Range Rover with more then 150,000 miles let alone 325,000 miles.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    free's a good price. I'd pay that :P
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Here's the vin of the 500SEL you posted from eBay last night (seller says it's 'gray market', guess we figured that out): WDB1260371A129561.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    Here's what I get:

    Datacard for VIN WDB1260371A129561 is not found
    1) VIN was misspelled in the request form;
    2) VIN was erroneously read from vehicle body or documents;
    3) VIN is not of an original vehicle and was forged by criminals;
    4) The vehicle was produced in late 2005 or 2006, and is not included yet in our database

    The decoder works on my C43...(here's what it looks like)

    VIN WDBHA33GXWF73(xxxxx)
    Model C 43 AMG
    Chassis 2020331F73(xxxx)
    Engine 113944 60 001637
    Transmission 722531 00 861538
    Order 0 8 705 22206
    Delivery date 02.04.98
    Dealer United States (USA) (705)
    Interior leather silver (588)
    Paint
    744 brilliant silver metallic (с 1991)
    Options
    058 aej. 97/2 (с 09.12.1995)
    221 left front seat, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978)
    222 right front seat, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978)
    240 outside temperature indicator (с 01.03.1982)
    249 automatically dipping inside rear view mirror (с 01.06.1990)
    251 radio MB-Exquisit - USA (с 01.07.1992)
    265 installation parts kit and connecting cable harness for TeKaDe BSA 31s car phone with one set
    elimination of lettering elegance/sport/esprit
    omission of line logo elegance/sport/esprit/classic (с 01.02.1993)
    Becker radio set Mexico, stereo
    345 rains sensor for windshield wipers (с 01.10.1993)
    414 electric tilting/sliding roof in glass version (с 01.10.1988)
    441 steering column, electrically adjustable, W202 manually adjustable (с 01.07.1984)
    461 instrument with mileage reading and english lettering (с 01.04.1990)
    472 electronic stability program (esp) (с 01.10.1993)
    dynamic handling control system
    494 California version
    version for USA/California/Canada (с 01.01.1996)
    524 paintcoat preservation (с 01.01.1964)
    551 anti-theft/anti-break-in warning system with anti-towing system (с 01.04.1998)
    570 folding armrest front w202/210 stowage box front with armrest (с 01.04.1970)
    front folding armrest w202 - housing at front with armrest
    581 automatic climate control (с 01.01.1977)
    584 electric window lifters (front and rear doors) (с 01.04.1970)
    electric window lifters, fourfold or sixfold
    600 headlamp wiper/washer (с 01.08.1971)
    612 lamp unit: gas discharge lamp (ael)
    xenon headlight (с 01.10.1993)
    634 elimination of first aid box (с 01.08.1977)
    636 elimination of warning triangle (с 01.03.1973)
    668
    673 high-capacity battery (с 01.01.1964)
    772 amg styling package - front spoiler, side skirts and rear apron (с 02.01.1992)
    774 Shell modification for AMG-wheels
    808 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year
    810 loudspeaker, sound package
    sound package (bose) (с 01.12.1986)
    873 seat heater for left and right front seats (с 01.02.1984)
    875 heated screen wash system (с 01.02.1988)
    windshield washer heated (W201)
    956 equipment package sport (с 01.11.1991)

    It's from a Euro source, so all VINS should work.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    Sorry if I am boring people - I am geeking out on this

    I just checked it on my old 126 too - it works. When multiple options are shown, the one with the date closest to the car is correct:

    VIN WDBCA24D0KA45xxx
    Model 300 SE
    Chassis 1260241A45xxx
    Engine 103981 12 075493
    Transmission 722351 03 185649
    Order 0 8 705 50322
    Approx. year not defined
    Dealer United States (USA) (705)
    Interior leather grey / orion gray (268)
    Paint
    355 diamond blue metallic (1984-1990, с 1994)
    68 Unknown code
    Options
    227 ashtray and cigar lighter in the rear, illuminated (с 01.03.1980)
    grab handle on roof front frame (с 01.06.1972 по 31.08.1973)
    catacolor-glass for coupe-roof (с 01.11.1963 по 30.11.1965)
    heat absorbind glass for coupe-roof (с 01.12.1965 по 28.02.1967)
    240 outside temperature indicator (с 01.03.1982)
    second spare wheel (с 01.01.1964 по 28.02.1973)
    241 left front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature. only applicable to w 210 when installed in conjunction with code 275. (с 01.03.1983)
    wood rims (с 01.01.1964 по 31.08.1971)
    242 right front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature. only applicable to series w 210 when installed in conjunction with code 275. (с 01.03.1983)
    spare wheel, without tire (с 01.01.1964 по 31.08.1971)
    280 trunk set, 3-piece (с 01.09.1964 по 31.08.1972)
    steering wheel (400 mm dia.) and gearshift lever in leather trim; on W202 390 mm dia. (с 01.05.1984)
    412 electric sliding roof with tilting device (с 01.07.1983)
    hydraulic sliding roof, in the rear (с 01.11.1964 по 30.06.1981)
    420 automatic transmission, floor shift (с 01.01.1963)
    430 headrests in the rear (с 01.01.1977)
    safety belts, front and rear (с 01.01.1964 по 31.05.1973)
    446 tempomat (cruise control), steering column, electrically adjustable, and airbag (с 01.02.1980 по 31.10.1993)
    461 instrument with mileage reading and english lettering (с 01.04.1990)
    494 California version
    California version (с 01.05.1973 по 31.12.1995)
    version for USA/California/Canada (с 01.01.1996)
    490 + 492 (с 01.12.1966 по 30.09.1967)
    506 outside rear view mirror, left, electrically adjustable and heated (с 01.07.1983 по 30.09.1983)
    outside rear view mirrors, left and right (с 01.01.1963 по 31.07.1971)
    outside rear view mirror, left and right, heated (electrically adjustable on the right) (l.h.d.) (с 01.10.1983 по 31.03.1989)
    outside rear view mirror, right, convex, taxi export version
    501 + 509 (с 01.08.1971 по 30.04.1974)
    519 Becker radio Grand Prix electronic cassette - USA (с 01.08.1980 по 30.11.1990)
    Becker radio Grand Prix LW/MW/SW/USW - USA (с 01.01.1963 по 29.02.1972)
    Becker radio Grand Prix stereo MW/USW - USA (с 01.10.1972 по 31.12.1976)
    Becker radio Mexico Grand Prix, electronic (USA)
    524 Reims adapter IV (с 01.04.1962 по 28.02.1963)
    paintcoat preservation (с 01.01.1964)
    531 automatic antenna (с 01.01.1963)
    543 exhaust-pipe cover trim (с 01.01.1963 по 28.02.1963)
    seat adapter between the front seats, and halogen lamp unit (с 01.01.1967 по 31.12.1972)
    sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated, left and right (с 01.11.1978)
    551 anti-theft warning system (с 01.11.1978 по 31.03.1998)
    anti-theft/anti-break-in warning system with anti-towing system (с 01.04.1998)
    steering wheel, ivory-colored (с 01.01.1963 по 31.05.1973)
    570 folding armrest front w202/210 stowage box front with armrest (с 01.04.1970)
    front folding armrest w202 - housing at front with armrest
    588 Thermoking air conditioner and electric window lifters (front doors) (с 01.04.1970 по 31.12.1972)
    automatic climate control and electric window lifters (front and rear doors) (с 01.01.1977)
    592 wyellow foglamps (с 01.01.1963 по 31.10.1965)
    heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (laminated glass), band filter
    heat-insulating glass, side window panes (с 01.02.1967 по 31.01.1971)
    green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, laminated safety glass - tinted strip (с 01.01.1972)
    600 headlamp wiper/washer (с 01.08.1971)
    trim strips on hardtop (с 01.04.1963 по 31.07.1971)
    611 courtesy lamps for front and rear doors, with W124 also for central doors/W202 front doors only (с 01.11.1978)
    sealed beam lamp unit, l.h. traffic (с 01.01.1966 по 28.02.1972)
    lamp unit, symmetrical (с 01.01.1962 по 28.02.1963)
    639 radial-ply tires, elimination of warning triangle (с 01.11.1973 по 31.10.1974)
    elimination of first-aid box and warning triangle (с 01.08.1977)
    640 aluminium disc wheels with radial-ply tires (с 01.10.1969 по 31.12.1989)
    tires with tube (с 01.01.1963 по 31.08.1965)
    15-hole light alloy rims (с 01.01.1990)
    809 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year
    810 roof-mounted loudspeaker (с 01.11.1962 по 30.11.1972)
    loudspeaker, sound package
    sound package (bose) (с 01.12.1986)
    877 reading lamp in the rear (с 01.11.1963)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    Here's a decoding of This Euro 140 coupe so it does work on Euros

    VIN WDB1400761A113178
    Model 600 SEC V12
    Chassis 1400761A113178
    Engine 120980 12 017687
    Transmission 722362 03 801807
    Order 0 2 212 00851
    Approx. year 1992
    Dealer Berlin branch (212)
    Interior leather mushroom (265)
    Paint
    040 black (T) (с 01.01.1963)
    Options
    260 elimination of model designation on rear lid (с 01.05.1968)
    261 elimination of model designation V12 (с 01.11.1973)
    551 anti-theft warning system (с 01.11.1978 по 31.03.1998)
    652 8-hole light alloy rims (с 01.01.1990)
    682 fire extinguisher (с 01.04.1970)
    810 loudspeaker, sound package
    sound package (bose) (с 01.12.1986)
    873 seat heater for left and right front seats (с 01.02.1984)
    880 closing system with infrared remote control (с 01.02.1988)

    I wonder if the mystery 126 seller typed it wrong or if it is doctored?
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    ...though I cut and pasted, so I'm pretty sure it's the seller's mistake.

    WBD1260371A129561 (I'm not looking at the last post).

    Let me see if I can figure anything out from my book.
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    ...this probably doesn't interest you at this point, but it doesn't look too bad (of course, that's about the least revealing angle one can use for a picture), and damn, it's CHEAP:

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/car/197450024.html

    Perhaps an ideal parts car for somebody?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yeah I am very curious to see what kind of shape it is on. This guys old Disco was in very good shape till it got whacked pretty hard and it was only a few years newer then this Range Rover.
    It didn't look like it did all that much damage to the body but it caused the transmission to die for some reason. Was probably on its last legs already.
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    ...who's selling the car (the supposedly '85 500SEL)...of course, the person who responded to my e-mail is the seller's 'friend'...which further adds to the fishiness. I don't really care per se, but now I'm curious.

    OR, if anyone has access to CarFax, apparently there are 9 entries on that VIN (though the 10th digit, '1', indicates it's a 2001, which obviously is wrong). Some Mercedes sites advise that the 10th digit sometimes doesn't exist on Euro cars, and to replace the 10th digit with an 'X', hence:

    WDB1260371A129561 OR WDB126037XA129561
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,446
    I get the same message with the X added
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Don't have Carfax at home but I could try it tomorrow if you guys want.
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    "AC doesn't work. I think it just needs freon...". Let's see now, it has been over 100d 19 of the last 21 days. If all that sucker needed was freon, the seller wouldn't be sweating his butt off, now would he?

    "Needs timing belt". Translation: Belt was not serviced and snapped, bending valves and cracking heads.

    and my favorite, "Reconditioned title". Right. I believe thats what the MB of earlier posts has. A reconditioned title to go along with the multiple donors. Come to think of it, maybe that's why the VIN isn't coming up. It is a compilation of the cars used to build the one for sale! :D
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    '89 Vette that needs a paint job for 5.5K? Seems a tad high. Try $3,500. Nobody wants a C4 unless it's a convertible, maybe. You can buy a spiff coupe for $9K so what's the point---well, I guess you could Miracle it for $1,500 and then you're in $7K....but what have you got here?

    Interesting. I certainly don't want a C4 myself. Heck, I don't even want a C5, unless its a Z06. But I never see cheap vettes around here, regardless. So, really, I think compared to the asking prices he is seeing in his area, he's pretty fair. I dunno. I certainly could be wrong. I never shop for these, that's for sure.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,744
    I thought 99s rusted in Joisey?

    everything rusts here eventually ... but '99 is way too soon. Not to mention I expect later model cars to last longer in the rust belt. I kinda get the feeling there is accident history behind this rust. A non-factory original hood/paint job would probably not last as long out here.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

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