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all she cares about is that we fit 2 adults and a car seat in the 2nd row. I'm not sure it will do that ... but you'll see me at a dealership next year with a crowbar trying like hell.
SO... all that remains is finding me a cash car that I'll enjoy AND the wife can drive (because i'll be taking the bimmer off her hands more often then she'll appreciate), which means a big enough trunk for a jogging stroller. hmmmm....
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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james
I think that there are better beater trucks for this money
A better project for 1500 What do all these guys do with their titles?
Hmmm, the title is 67 Chevelle with no front seats. I wonder what happened to the two front seats seen in the photos? Maybe they dropped out when the floor rusted out. :sick:
A high school hot rod would have a used decent running small black with the typical bolt ons, a Macco type paint job and an interior pieced together from new and used not orignal parts. A car like that would be worth 7500 around here.
A decent driver would have a rebuilt massaged small block, decent paint and an close to original interior pieced together from new and well preserved good parts.
This is assuming that you could do alot of the work (but not necesssarily all the work) yourself
Depends a lot on how much you do. If you gave that car to professional restoration shop and told them to have at it, I'd guess $75,000 and up.
Let's figure $8,000 at least for a decent paint job, all chrome glass seals off, bare metal.
Then of course everything you put back on the car looks like hell----LOL!
My uncle had a 1994 GMC Sierra with the 160 hp 4.3. I drove it a few times, and it didn't seem like a bad truck. He traded it in late 1996, as soon as he had it paid off, for another truck. It's almost as if he didn't know how to function without a car payment, so he made sure to get back into one!
If I had been thinking right at the time, I should have bought it from him instead of letting him trade it in. I think they gave him something like $8900 in trade. There wasn't anything overly fancy about it. Just a basic work truck, 8' bed, 4.3/auto. I think about the only options it had were a/c and a halfway decent stereo. It didn't even have carpeting...just a rubber mat. And I remember grandmom helping him put a cover on the vinyl seat.
Basically, it was about what I'd look for if I were buying a truck today.
I like the old Fiestas...they were fun to drive and basically quite good cars.
I recently checked out "Saturday Night Live", the complete first season (8 discs), from the library. They had a commercial parody for the "Corroda", with Dan Aykroyd as the spanish-accented spokesman. He concluded his pitch with the line: "It's just as good a car, as I am an actor". :P
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But the phoney Mercedes grille and badge, and the vinyl roof and the two feet of space above the tires....well, typical atrocities of the 70s. Car looks like an elephant on roller skates....and probably handles like one.
But could just be me.
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I didn't like 'em when I was a kid, probably because back then I was more of a GM fan. But I appreciate them more nowadays. I think their styling is cleaner and less gaudy than the Monte Carlo.
We can probably thank the Cordoba for helping to bring luxury amenities to lower-priced automobiles, as well. Back in 1975, when the Cordoba came out, it was probably about the cheapest car to offer a leather interior. Forget about getting leather in any Chevy back then, except maybe as an option on the Corvette. In the GM stable, you would've had to go all the way up to something like a Ninety-Eight, Electra, Toronado, or Riviera before you were offered leather. And at Ford, you probably had to go up to a T-bird or Lincoln. And remember, a 1975 T-bird was a much more prestigious, upscale car than anything that followed. Maybe Mercury was offering leather on some pimped up version of the Grand Marquis though, I dunno. Back then they still had a knack for passing off certain grades of vinyl as a luxury material.
I don't think Cordobas were bad handling cars for the time, either. At least, not when you compare them to their peers...the typical personal luxury coupe of the era. And performance wasn't too bad, either. The Mopar 318 was usually closer matched to stuff like the Ford 351 or GM's 350's, than to the smaller 302's and 305's. Probably about the biggest problem with them was the infamous "Lean Burn" computer. And, of course, inconsistent build quality of the era ensured a game of automotive Russian Roulette, where one car off the assembly line could be so reliable it would put some modern day cars to shame, while the one that followed it would make you wish that Ricardo Montalban and the entire design staff at Chrysler could be banished to Ceti Alpha 6!
I can't remember if you could get a 440 in the Cordoba, but you could get the 400, and I think it was offered with up to 240-250 hp. And in 1979, there was a Cordoba "300" edition, which had a copcar 360-4bbl with 195 hp. Probably about the closest thing to a musclecar that you could get that year.
Not that American drivers minded particularly. They didn't require good handling so nobody built it for them.
I think I got off pretty lucky when it comes to 70's cars. I don't think I've ever truly experienced the worst they had to offer in handling. The closest I came to that era was a 1969 Bonneville on one end, two Mopar R-bodies on the other end, and a '76 LeMans in the middle.
The Bonneville was a great handling car for its size. It was something like 225" long, but it sure didn't feel like it! And that sucker was all CAR, too, as it didn't have the protruding crash bumpers fluffing up the overall length by a few inches on each end. Although, it did have that beak. I think I saw a spec somewhere quoting a 1976 Bonneville at 223.4", which came as a bit of a surprise to me. In general, those big '71-76 GM cars were as big as they ever got, especially once they started sticking those 5 mph bumpers on. But I was surprised that the Bonneville actually got shorter! The '71-72 Bonnevilles were on a 2" longer (126 vs 124") wheelbase than the '73-76, so they might have been longer, though.
The two '79 Chryslers I've had weren't bad-handling cars either, but my Newport had some upgrade called an "Open Road Handling package" that gave it wide 7" rims, beefier tires, thicker sway bars, etc. And my New Yorker has copcar wheels on it and heavy duty shocks, so it probably doesn't handle as sloppy as it was designed to. Also, back then, I think Chryslers tended to just ride firmer anyway, compared to a GM or Ford car. They'd usually handle a bit better and give you better road feel, but that's not what people wanted back then. They wanted isolation.
And the LeMans has been altered, too. It has to have been. It doesn't bounce and float enough to feel 70's stock! I know it has heavy duty shocks on it, and 70-series tires (I'm sure 75-series were standard), but I dunno what else has been done to it over its life.
I do remember a few years back though, riding in the back seat of my buddy's 1978 Mark V. Suddenly I got to experience, first-hand, how it's possible to get sea-sick in a car!
And I remember there was this old humpback bridge in our neighborhood that crossed over a long-defunct railroad line called the WB&A. Every time Grandmom or Granddad would drive over that bridge, it was almost like I could feel my stomach rising up in me. Kinda like on a roller coaster. I thought it was fun, but Mom hated it. So did Grandmom. Well, unless she was driving.
Unfortunately, that old bridge is gone now, as the road has been leveled down, so I don't have the opportunity to experience how it would be in a newer car.
They're just a primitive chassis so you can't expect too much from them---but in normal driving, they're fine!
Wouldn't be surprised someone was financing or leasing it, and blew the engine, and had no money for the repairs. But then again it should have been under warranty.
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I guess that the AMG could be the same thing. Somebody knows that they're losing it and they drain the oil and drive it as far as it will go.
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And good point above re: the AMG car...it could have been something malicious.
I assume this is a "Royale", might not be a bad cruiser
Drive a sports car from the 40s made in the 70s
Drive a "sports car" to impress your friends
Some of the comments that are tossed off by the sellers are rather chilling....
a 450SL with "negligible" rust and needs muffler work----gulp. Actual value? Priced about right.
A Fiat 850 that had bodywork AND a paint job totalling $1,100?? Hey, cost no object---LOL! And a hole in the convertible top window and no brakes and a transmission leak and rust? Gee, what a bargain...please stay behind the caution tape until your number is called! Actual value? Maybe $750.
A rubber-bumper MG Midget---does it get any worse than this? How sad...like seeing your high school sweetheart all fat and wrinkled and singing for drinks in a bowling alley.
Actual value: Priced about right.
Oh my word. I must shamefully admit to owning one of these Italian clap-traps many years ago. Why no speeding tickets? How about 0-60 slower than a same era VW Beetle. With A/C. On three cylinders. Mine had an actual factory cruise control. It was a mechanical link (think choke) that was only released manually by hand. That's right, if you were finally up to cruising speed and had to hit the brakes, you better hit the clutch at the same time and shove the cruise pull back in quickly to keep from blowing up the motor. Oh, and no oil filter. You just changed the oil every 1500 miles.
FIAT: Fix It Again, Tony.
Actual value? Maybe $15,000...so he's $55,000 over-priced.
My 1985 Consumer Guide doesn't specify what the LS package added, but it wasn't cheap. It based at $14,618, compared to $10,798 for the base model and $11,293 for the Brougham. The options list in my book still shows things like power windows, locks, seats, the V-8, air conditioning, etc as still being extra-cost options across the board. About the only thing "special" I see is that you could get leather on the LS, for about $380 extra.
I guess it could be a misprint though, and a lot of that stuff WAS standard on the LS? And looking in my old car encyclopedia, it looks like Olds had been doing a 3-tier lineup for the Delta since around 1981. They started off with base, Royale, and Royale Brougham, but then in that Detroit fashion of moving upscale names down (Fairlane, Bel Air, Impala, Belvedere, etc), they went to Royale, Royale Brougham, and LS. And for some reason, the LS was only offered as a sedan...no coupe version.
Anyway, I kinda like that '85 Delta. Reminds me of my grandmother's old '85 LeSabre Limited. That thing was a nice, comfy car, although they kind of overdid it with the plood. If they would've just left it on the dash and done a subtle accent on the doors, it would've been one thing, but these plood panels covered the whole upper part of the door panel and also housed the pull straps. And in certain lights, that plood had a vibrant, almost radioctive glow to it.
Oh well, if nothing else, those pull-straps were sturdy, and well-mounted. The ones on that Delta would pull loose much quicker.
I think I remember that one...was it a burgundy-ish color?
As for sales, I was looking in my auto encyclopedia last night, and noticed that the '85 LeSabre sold about 150-160,000 units. I had always thought that it sold better than the 1984 model, partly because of the downsized C-bodies, but its sales were about the same in 1984. However, those were both pretty good showings.
The 1985 Electra was a pretty strong seller, but IIRC, it was also released around March/April of 1984, so it had an extra long sales year. I think it also sold strongly in 1986-87, but then started to fall off in popularity.
I should just pay someone $3K to shove a sharp stick in my eye, right?
looks like a possible repaint. Can't imagine it is that clean and original with that many miles.
Oh, and here is another one I like.
But if I'm not mistaken, shifty isn't too fond of these, either.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S