Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

andre1969

I remember seeing that a long time ago. Wow that brings back some memories!

qbrozen

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just not seeing the money he claims he spent.

I mean, c'mon. $10k on the conversion... so you are saying $20k on ... what? The sheet metal, suspension, and rattle-can paint job?

qbrozen

This is quite the tank.

texases

That's one crazy ad! That has to be the worst Mustang that's had $30k spent on it I've ever seen. All that money and ripped seats? No tach because 'they didn't have one in '67"? But they did have that $5 turn signal switch.

Folks, read that ad, every line, you'll be laughing.

tjc78

Look at the hack job on the cross support (driver's side of the engine bay) The EFI upper intake obviously didn't clear the support.

texases

I missed that :sick:
Making this one right just wouldn't be worth the effort...

omarman

The "tank" link didn't work for me -- ad removed. The Mustang link worked but it's hard to look at isn't it? Wonder how any insurance company would underwrite this hoopty for $27K.

gsemike

You've got to wonder how much he really thinks he's going to get for that load

qbrozen

that's a shame. It was a '67 Benz 600 in fintail blue (yes, I've dubbed it fintail blue).

on the stang ... depends on the insurance company. Hagerty will insure mine for whatever I ask.

texases

My favorite line from the 'Stang ad:
"The 1967 & 1968 Mustang speaks for itself, so I do not have to hype it up. Please see below for the most sought after car of all time."
(emphasis added)
:surprise:

Mr_Shiftright

And here I thought it was a Ferrari GTO or a McLaren F1. Silly me. :P

fintail

Nice color name

bhill2

I appreciated that he was including the "Manual Steering pump".

qbrozen

Not too bad looking. Just looking at the trunk, I seriously doubt the "no rust" claim, but if the bidding stays low, it could be a good place to start.

Can we get smaller pics? And it is sitting in a recyclers yard, no less.

Ya know, you COULD have taken all that money you spent on wheels and put it into a better job on the body. And what the hell does the car's age have to do with the rust after you've obviously repainted it?

fintail

uugh what a mess, that poor Lincoln

oregonboy

What kind of fool puts a reserve on an auction for a baby-blue XJ-6??
:confuse: :sick:
The reply to any offer of cash-money should be.... SOLD, (and lucky to get it)
:shades:

lemko

The seats are all wrong in that Buick and what's up with the teeny aftermarket aircleaner?

That Lincoln? Eeewww! Vomitrocious!

tjc78

That Lincoln? Eeewww! Vomitrocious!

The person responsible for it should be tarred and feathered.

Mr_Shiftright

You'd be lucky to be able to give away an XJ6.

bhill2

It's terrible to see a once proud car dying of shame.

Mr_Shiftright

the last thing people want right now in this economy are "projects" with no possibility of an upside or cars modified in such a personalized way as to defy any attempt to change them to the buyer's tastes. Custom cars are like jewelry or fashion---you can't expect others to like what you like.

qbrozen

The ad alone is odd enough to me. But the added bonus of the pics being taken at a playground with the license plate KNAPPER just makes it damned funny!

This is now the 3rd time he has listed it as "final price reduction."

Being an autoX guy, I can appreciate this. But I think he went overboard on the details. I mean, professional paintjob? Waste of money on this car. Coilovers? Unnecessary at that weight. $140 brake pads? Why? So, all in all, its obviously $20k he ain't getting back.

I always liked these. His explanation doesn't cut it for me, though. Its a decent sized 4-door sedan? Why is it impractical?

Mr_Shiftright

66 NOVA -- he probably means not practical for safety reasons, and reliability...with a young baby, I mean.

texases

I liked those Novas too, but if I had a baby on the way I'd want something with modern safety stuff. But room wise, that Nova would be fine.

qbrozen

see... I don't get the whole safety thing, personally. We're all still here and we didn't even have car seats! Oh the humanity!

Surprisingly, my 2000 BMW doesn't have LATCH hooks. Neither does the wife's Saab. We really don't even think twice about driving the kids around in those cars.

Mr_Shiftright

It's not about "safety", it's about "safetyism", which is an ideology not really based on actual statistics.

texases

Well, the death rate today is about 80% less than what it was in the 60s. Lot of that's due to cars, I think.

And you being here just proves you weren't killed. Those that were post very little!

Mr_Shiftright

True for front seat passengers, but on the other hand statistics show that baby seats, for instance, don't do much of anything to save lives after the child is two years old, versus just being belted in, and in the back seat.

So if the person rejects an old car based on the fact that it won't hold a babyseat, and the child is more than two years old, then their acting on "safetyism" and not safety.

texases

Yeah, I would NOT (edit) reject an old car cause of the safety seats for 2+ year olds, but I would reject it for daily transport of the kids for the lack of 3-point belts and side airbags, those would benefit all folks, front or back seat.

Mr_Shiftright

Really? You wouldn't own a classic car or drive one because it didn't have air bags? You know, there are many many thousands of people doing that very thing right now, in car shows, tours, vintage racing, storicas, etc.

texases

OOPS! I was typing faster than thinking, take a look at my edited response above. I absolutely would keep a classic on the road, for use as a hobby car. I just wouldn't use it as daily transportation for the kids.

Mr_Shiftright

I'd be okay with kids in a classic car everyday if we all had modern seatbelts installed.

I mean, thousands of school buses do this everyday with NO seatbelts.

qbrozen

actually, aren't side airbags bad for kids? or maybe its just curtain airbags? something about it coming down onto their head or something, I think. I know the front airbag is disabled with a kid sitting there.

texases

If the kid's out of position, I guess they could be, but they're better overall. I haven't heard about that for a while now, wonder if it's a real vs. 'possible' issue. :confuse:

gsemike

For about the same as a V6 Accord

Shouldn't have done all that work

I've heard that 1985 is a good tear for C4s Wrong transmission though

The pictures look better than the description

A less desirable Nova but looks good for the money

Speaking of bad investments

Any upstart regimes looking for this?

Mr_Shiftright

1985 Corvette---yes, in 1985 they switched to a better fuel injection system, which would allow for much easier HP increases. The 4+3 manual transmission wasn't any good, and many folks don't like automatic Corvettes (about half and half preference), so you could swap to a T5 or T56 (if you're swapping out the automatic).

berri

baby seats

I remember when I was a kid, little ones rode in car seats that slipped over the front bench seat back between the driver and front seat passenger (often with a little steering wheel attached to its front) and people actually though they helped protect the youngin'. I guess life is often a reflection of the times at hand.

lemko

That El Camino looks like Earl and Randy's "dream truck!"

ab348

Sort of like this:



Scary to think about those... :sick: ">

jwilliams2

Oh boy! That brings back memories. We had one like that back in the 60's for our kids. Or the platform hooked over the front seatback that turned the back seat into a playpen. What were we thinking back then?

gsemike

Definitely an Earl fan

omarman

I seem to recall the same thing - Doh! it was only a cartoon

explorerx4

I just bought a new set of tires for our '04 Escape.
It has about 90k on it and this will be the 3rd set.
I dumped the first set early because they were terrible tires.
The replacement set have about 62k on them and they were pretty good, although not the cheapest tires out there.
New tires are Goodyear Fortera Tripletreads, just like set number 2.
Not as comfy as Michelins, but unflappable and have always tracked great.
Never rebalanced since new.
After rebate about $650 out the door.

qbrozen

I just don't get it. Why in the world would you NOT clean the damned thing off? It makes me assume you are hiding something. I would also pay a lousy few hundred bucks and address the rust spot.

Mr_Shiftright

Especially since it is the unloved and homely 2+2, which is a hard sell anyway. At least it's not an automatic 2+2, which is about as salable as a large rock these days.

I'd try to buy it cheap, and bust it up as a parts car for a prettier coupe or roadster that is undergoing restoration. There is absolutely no upside to a 2+2.

qbrozen

But you probably forget that, personally, I prefer the 2+2, 6-cyl, stick. I know, I'm like 1 of 4 people in that situation. So its the perfect car for me .... I'm just not in the market.

texases

Seems like that XK's description was a little generous...all original? But it's been painted and new leather...small rust spot? Looks several inches long...

Mr_Shiftright

more like 1 in 4,000....but I see your point in that you get in a lot cheaper.

This is a car you want a set of human eyeballs on before you bid. A bad E-Type can eat you for breakfast.

bhill2

I was looking at the latest Hemmings Motor News (p. 551) and saw the text "Rolls-Royce 1983 Silver Spur, great project car...fine physical condition but needs some mechanical work". Sounds like a great opportunity to do some quick wrenching and then flip it for a profit, don't you think?

tjc78

Oh yeah, plenty of upside!! Read this post from Mark156 over on CCBA board. I was stunned!

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