Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

texases

I'd be curious what Shifty thought of that Eldo, wow that's high.

That Camry is crazy clean, seems like a good price.

Where in the US does one get all those parts for that Austin?

explorerx4

That Eldo is very elegant looking, but no under hood or underneath pictures.
Selling for 'my uncle' doesn't inspire confidence either.

ab348

The Córdoba is in absolutely remarkable condition. Original spare tire has never been on the ground. But they should have ordered the leather seats. That cloth upholstery is very odd.

fintail

The apparent condition of the chrome interior/dash trim on the Caddy doesn't give me confidence in the thoroughness of the restoration, either. Pretty car though.

Cordoba hubcaps are kinda cool.

Camry would do very well at a Radwood event.

xwesx

More progress again tonight. The wheel studs we picked up on Sunday work perfectly for the application, which is a relief because we spent hours going through store inventory to try to find the right ones!

Anyhow, we got the new studs into the wheel hubs tonight, along with repacking the bearings and mounting it on the van. After that, the rotors and calipers were a very quick install. Unfortunately, I do not think that the brake lines I bought are sufficient for the job. They are 15" long, which is the same as the originals, and the part recommended for the build, but with full extension on the suspension (as it sits now), they are really pushed to their max. I fear that a hard bump on the road and they might just break under the pressure. So, a few extra inches in order. I think I will see about getting some custom manufactured units from a local business. They build some brake lines for my plow truck a few winters ago: Inexpensive and perfect fit.


And, damn this program! No image attaching again tonight. It's so flaky.

omarman

1969 Ford Econoline Van ORIGINAL Factory Postcard

Okay the pull down image attach didn't work for me this morning but when I typed it manually it still works like before.

ab348

omarman said:

Okay the pull down image attach didn't work for me this morning but when I typed it manually it still works like before.

Interesting that it let you type. Yesterday I tried to paste a URL into the image box and it wouldn't let me. Neither a right-click Paste command nor a CTRL-V was accepted.

stickguy

Doing the same thing to me. can paste into the URL box, but hitting enter doesn't put it into the box like normal.

https://carfax-img.vast.com/carfax/-5854454654839551281/1/640x480

sda

I used to have a model of a Ford Econoline Chateau, same body style as the 69, with working twin-I-beam suspension. It had good detail and was one of my favorites. IIRC it was a model kit from AMT. When we moved England, my model collection along with other items got the toss, sadly. Dad explained we (the family) had to minimize our belongings given the expense of moving and that we would be living in a much smaller home.

fintail

It's that time again:

Rubber baby buggy bumpers

Maybe well-done for what it is

Somebody's baby (someone might get the reference)

Unusual to row your own

Not many 4x4s out there

Cult item

Another from the hoard

Color combo everyone wants, plate frame suits it

Getting thin on the ground even here

Looks kinda cool

Cheap AMG

"fast" magic bus

From when trucks were meant to be used as tools instead of by tools

Many of these seem almost kind low priced

Uncommon like this, but that price

ab348

When I was a young teenager I built a lot of models. First cars, then later on in the mid-70s, over-the-road tractors. I remember a few favorites: a '67 Fairlane, a '70 Challenger, and several of the big rigs. As my skill progressed I got more ambitious with painting, doing silver outlines on the chrome trim on the cars, trying to paint the engines and interiors correctly, and doing the multi-color paint jobs on the big rigs. Problem was that got expensive and they took up a lot of space. When I got older I really didn't care to keep them, and I'm not sure that was a bad idea. You can only handle so much stuff.

kyfdx

240 HP on that engine-swapped E30. I like that one.

kyfdx

Plenty of '87 Legends came with sticks. But, mostly coupes

texases

I'd think that '54 Lincoln would do better at an auction. Buyers for that era must be getting scarce.

stickguy

I actually like that Datsun ZX. Yes I have weird taste.

ab348

fintail said:

It's that time again:

Another from the hoard

It might be the nicest '54 Lincoln 4-door on the planet. But it's a '54 Lincoln 4-door, not a really attractive car at all.

fintail said:

Looks kinda cool

The '65 Pontiac GP was a great design. But black on black and not many pictures make this one questionable.

fintail said:

"fast" magic bus

Recently a Combi on BaT resulted in an interesting discussion on fast VW buses like this. The wise people on there were saying you don't want one unless you want to kill yourself. Dodgy brakes, poor handling, high CG, poor to nonexistent crashworthiness. This is one of the few cases where slower is better.

fintail said:

From when trucks were meant to be used as tools instead of by tools

Rare enough that it might make a nice project to just fix up and drive.

fintail said:

Many of these seem almost kind low priced

I don't get it either, a few years ago these were bringing big money. I wonder if there are some that are rust buckets that have been given a coat of lipstick? Dunno if this is that, looks nice enough.

fintail said:

Uncommon like this, but that price

Short-box trucks in nice shape are bringing crazy money right now. Price might not be all that far out of line for a Ford fan.

Man, it was fun to edit those quotes!!!

texases

I wonder if the Amos Minter T-Bird shop is taking a hit. They're about a mile from my house, always have something pretty in the window. Their listings are in the $50k-$100k range:
https://www.amosminter.com/Thunderbirds_For_Sale.html

tjc78

Somebody's baby (someone might get the reference)

I'll take it... Fast Times at Ridgemont High

I would take that Ford truck. I still like that generation. They are pretty popular still and command stupid money.

stickguy

I’d take the ford too.

fintail

I was thinking that Ford shortbox 4x4 would be more like 10K, but those do seem to be more scarce than squarebodies in nice shape, supply matters.

54 Lincoln is amazing looking, but kind of a white elephant for enthusiasts under 50 or so - they just can't relate to the car, and it was a sedate looking car even when new.

And good call @tjc78 , I remember the guy Jennifer Jason Leigh's character has a tryst with drives one, sticks in my mind just for that.

Michaell

fintail said:

I was thinking that Ford shortbox 4x4 would be more like 10K, but those do seem to be more scarce than squarebodies in nice shape, supply matters.

54 Lincoln is amazing looking, but kind of a white elephant for enthusiasts under 50 or so - they just can't relate to the car, and it was a sedate looking car even when new.

And good call @tjc78 , I remember the guy Jennifer Jason Leigh's character has a tryst with drives one, sticks in my mind just for that.

Craig the stereo salesman.

fintail

That's it, the guy from the mall. He must have been skilled with a car like that, I think those were pretty dear then.

We must have quite similar tastes in movies - although I was younger than a teen when those and most John Hughes films were released, I've always enjoyed many of that era.

Michaell said:

Craig the stereo salesman.

Michaell

fintail said:

That's it, the guy from the mall. He must have been skilled with a car like that, I think those were pretty dear then.

We must have quite similar tastes in movies - although I was younger than a teen when those and most John Hughes films were released, I've always enjoyed many of that era.

Michaell said:

Craig the stereo salesman.

I'll admit - I don't remember seeing most of these when they were first released, but I'm a big fan of them now.

xwesx

I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but it looks like you rolled back the new comment box?

Problem is, the old one is now broken. What's the status?!

fintail

I saw many on cable TV when I was a kid (TV = babysitter). The Hughes films in particular have fantastic car casting, he knew what he was doing. I also enjoyed the idealized version of teenage life he portrayed, although I later learned it was insanely unrealistic.

Michaell said:

I'll admit - I don't remember seeing most of these when they were first released, but I'm a big fan of them now.

fintail

Early CL FSBO page 1 pre-2000 this 'n that:

Rare style reasonably priced, but my eyes go right to those wheels

Presents well, would be better if more stock

Wartime = no chrome

Enough gauges for ya?

The invasion continues

Surprised they don't want more for it

Rare color, car becoming scarce

Another shorty 4x4 maybe a worthy project

1st year for the V6 in this car, IIRC

Land yacht

stickguy

I like the F150. Cheap enough. And that SAAB is cool.

texases

That Electra's styling just looks old to me, older than '69, for sure.

qbrozen

digging the '51 Chevy

xwesx

The F150 should be gone in no time at that price. And, the '89 Camry.... probably the best buy of the lot today. $1,700, lots of life left, comfortable cruising sedan.

Michaell

xwesx said:

The F150 should be gone in no time at that price. And, the '89 Camry.... probably the best buy of the lot today. $1,700, lots of life left, comfortable cruising sedan.

My folks had a '91 Camry; it was a good car for them.

tjc78

I wouldn't have wanted to buy a 91 Camry, when the 92 was such a huge leap forward.

To this day I think the 92-96 are such a great design.

stickguy

That era accord too, was a high point of over engineering in a family sedan.

sda

tjc78 said:

I wouldn't have wanted to buy a 91 Camry, when the 92 was such a huge leap forward.

To this day I think the 92-96 are such a great design.

Then they came out with the frumpy 97. Interior quality that was so good in the 92-96 was lost.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

I wouldn't have wanted to buy a 91 Camry, when the 92 was such a huge leap forward.

To this day I think the 92-96 are such a great design.

I had a business trip to Hawaii in 1997, and was able to bring the wife with me. We had a '96 Camry V6 as a rental. I'll agree that was the apogee for the Camry

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

I wouldn't have wanted to buy a 91 Camry, when the 92 was such a huge leap forward.

To this day I think the 92-96 are such a great design.

Funny... I loved the ‘91. The ‘92 seemed bloated in comparison.

Not arguing the leap forward. That happens with almost every new generation.

berri

Well, you know I like the land yacht! That brown and a green seemed really common on big Buick's and Old's in those days.

fintail

The 97 Camry set in motion a Toyota blandness theme which reigned for eons and is likely a factor in their overdone styling of late ("we're not boring! we promise! look! we have big grilles and lots of slashes and lines everywhere!")

92-96 Camry and 90-93 Accord were it, 94-97 Accord right after.

texases

I was amazed at how blah the '97 Camry was, after the great '92-'96. The '97 reminded me of poor Mopar designs of the time.

xwesx

tjc78 said:

I wouldn't have wanted to buy a 91 Camry, when the 92 was such a huge leap forward.

To this day I think the 92-96 are such a great design.

Very true. Especially from an interior design and comfort standpoint, the '92 was amazing! However, from a quality-of-machine standpoint, the prior generation was an excellent car. It just didn't look as skookum or have as much ear leg room.

berri

You could find that vintage Camry wagons doing taxi duty for many years after its initial build and sale. Lots of them in the DC area for a long time for example.

xwesx

Okay, so follow up photos. I decided to just post these on Facebook and try to link them here, since uploading is fubar here for the time being.

As noted previously, we were able to get the longer wheel studs, reassemble the hubs, add the rotors and calipers, and yesterday I had some brake lines custom made that are fully compatible with the original hardware on the van. It turned out well for now.... but the real test comes on the road (I am hopeful... the old drums set a rather low bar...)!









I did the driver side while showing my son the details, and he did the passenger side.

sda

It’s great to see that your son is helping with the project. I fondly remember dad and his good friend who was an excellent mechanic showing me how to tune up my Honda CT-70 and SL125, change oil and other tasks. They both impressed upon the the importance of regular and thorough maintenance which I am now trying to also impress on my 17 yo daughter. She looks at me like, really?

The disc brake conversion looks like it could be original to the van. Are you installing a brake proportioning valve to balance the front to rear bias? Great job!

fintail

Indeed, nice work on those brakes, looks good. I remember wrenching with my dad when I was a kid, especially on the hobby cars he picked up when I was a teen. A few incidents made me stick to just basic maintenance checks, and leave big jobs for someone with experience

It's that time again:

A good detail and this may present well enough, I kind of like it

Depreciated

No mention of mileage hmmm wonder why

Rare, dear, someone may want it

Not many left like this

I could buy this pretty thing for the money I have in my wallet - oh wait, seller is being a dope

Crunch

Interesting use of resources

Re-enact "Duel"

People just aren't getting there from here much anymore

Neat but a tad optimistic

tjc78

I think the 66 Caddy may be the pick of the litter. I wonder what they really want for it.

fintail

25K I bet, maybe in loonies.

texases

That Falcon wagon - what a 'sleeper'! 170 hp!! and all out of that little 6:

tjc78

fintail said:

25K I bet, maybe in loonies.

I think that's optimistic for a coupe.

fintail

Definitely, more like half that in USD. But if CL sellers are good at one thing, it is eternal optimism sometimes with a heavy dose of psychotic grandeur.

tjc78 said:

I think that's optimistic for a coupe.

sda

texases said:

That Falcon wagon - what a 'sleeper'! 170 hp!! and all out of that little 6:

Are those buckets from a BMW? Nice install, clean wagon, though I’ve never been a fan for a Ford Falcon. I like the Caddy but no ac.