Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

explorerx4

The Miata a few houses away got a new wrap.

ab348

Do they track it?

explorerx4

I don't know if they track the car, just that it has a new wrap.
Same huge rear wing, though.

ab348

explorerx4 said:

I don't know if they track the car, just that it has a new wrap.
Same huge rear wing, though.

Why would anyone want to drive that in traffic?

fintail

ab348 said:

Do they track it?

These types either track it every weekend or it hits the track as much as my fintail - doin it for the 'gram.

Most practical use of such spoilers:

sda

Here's a rare one. I remember driving one when they first came out and expected more from the engine. It was expensive too.


VW fixed that later with the VR-6.

fintail

sda said:

Here's a rare one. I remember driving one when they first came out and expected more from the engine. It was expensive too.
VW fixed that later with the VR-6.

And an automatic to boot, I bet some parts are becoming very tough.

texases

I can't remember the last time I saw one. Big improvement over the mk 2 Scirocco.

kyfdx

texases said:

I can't remember the last time I saw one. Big improvement over the mk 2 Scirocco.

I liked the 2nd gen Scirocco. Not as much as the Gen one, though.

explorerx4

This might interest some people hrere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57xhXFvgo40

bhill2

kyfdx said:

texases said:

I can't remember the last time I saw one. Big improvement over the mk 2 Scirocco.

I liked the 2nd gen Scirocco. Not as much as the Gen one, though.

I hear you. I had a gen one Scirocco. It was one sweet little car. Sure as hell wasn't an automatic though.

tjc78

Rare Town Car right here. Essentially this was a police interceptor TC. Quickest and best handling TC ever made.

My Grandfather had one. Great car.

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/950220000159376/?ref=category_feed

tjc78

Post doesn’t explain it but it was a Signature Touring. I think it went from 98 - 2002

explorerx4

Anthony Gozzo has sold plenty of those with much lower mileage but higher price.

explorerx4

Saw this while walking the granddog today. It was at a body repair shop.

stickguy

whoops.

fintail

Treasures 4 Sale:

There needs to be less than "very little wrong" at that price

Almost seems cheap for this look anymore

Scam ad

Hippity Hoppity

Spend 75K on the cars, 100K each restoring them to good driver quality, sell them for 110K apiece, and you are only 55K in the hole

Images seem like pics of pics from 1989, but maybe not bad for those into this kind of thing

The Porsche kinda curbstoner is back, i would want some kind of credible docs

Maybe fair enough, this is the new $750

These can go for wacko money, but these ones might be done

Wild restomod, see above

Impressive mileage

I loathe AI ad copy

Hardtop

Aeroback

Might not be bad

Not many of these on the road

qbrozen

Diesel rabbit is cool

Can’t get from here to there on that Coronet. Find a really nice one for $20k and save a bundle.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Rare Town Car right here. Essentially this was a police interceptor TC. Quickest and best handling TC ever made.

My Grandfather had one. Great car.

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/950220000159376/?ref=category_feed

Does that have the Intec 4 valve? That motor wasn’t generally available in the Towncar but if they special ordered it for interceptor use it could be a fun car.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Saw this while walking the granddog today. It was at a body repair shop.

How the heck would you fix THAT?

oldfarmer50

Why would that Coronet “440” have a 318 engine? That’s not how I remember that designation worked.

stickguy

Get 2 big dudes and have them jump up and down in the front of the bed.

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

Why would that Coronet “440” have a 318 engine? That’s not how I remember that designation worked.

The 440 designation had nothing to do with the engine choice. The bare-bones '68 Coronet was called the Deluxe, then the 440 next up, then the 500 above that, all designating different trim/equipment levels, before you got into the performance cars. You could get a slant six in a Coronet 440 if you wanted.

tjc78

@oldfarmer50 said:
Does that have the Intec 4 valve? That motor wasn’t generally available in the Towncar but if they special ordered it for interceptor use it could be a fun car.

No Panther other than the Marauder got the 4V. It was the standard 4.6, dual exhaust and a 3.55 rear. It was a great driving car and handled very well for what it was.

tjc78

The Crown Vic listed above looks great. Mileage doesn’t match the actual odometer though. 90/91 Panthers have bad odometer gears too so mileage is always suspect.

qbrozen

@oldfarmer50 said:
Why would that Coronet “440” have a 318 engine? That’s not how I remember that designation worked.

They made a massive mistake using a trim designation that was also a separate engine option.

texases

Dodge and Plymouth like their number models, Valiant 100, 200, etc. But why use 440, like you said...odd choice.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Why would that Coronet “440” have a 318 engine? That’s not how I remember that designation worked.

The 440 designation had nothing to do with the engine choice. The bare-bones '68 Coronet was called the Deluxe, then the 440 next up, then the 500 above that, all designating different trim/equipment levels, before you got into the performance cars. You could get a slant six in a Coronet 440 if you wanted.

I see. I was a Plymouth man during that era. By the time I switched to Dodge in 74’ they must have done away with that designation.

xwesx

explorerx4 said:

I don't know if they track the car, just that it has a new wrap.
Same huge rear wing, though.

Haha; the wing is nearly as large as the rest of the car!

gsemike

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/978035303846497/?mibextid=dXMIcH

When is the last time you saw a Turbo Monte Carlo? Way short on details and pics, but looks decent in that shot

oldfarmer50

Aftermarket turbo?

gsemike

@oldfarmer50 said:
Aftermarket turbo?

Nah, these were factory

fintail

I remember seeing a turbo Monte like that parked on the street every day while riding the bus when I was in junior high. It was no more thana 10 year old car then, and already seemed old and kind of weird with the turbo hood badge.

texases

Same engine as the Pontiac Firebird turbo?

ab348

texases said:

Same engine as the Pontiac Firebird turbo?

No, it was the Buick 3.8L. But you could also get the SBC 305 V8 which I have to think was a better choice.

gsemike

@texases said:
Same engine as the Pontiac Firebird turbo?

There were also turbo regals of that vintage. I guess that it's the predecessor of the t type a d grand national, but performance gains for these were minimal. It was almost an experiment that got released. I'm sure the 305 V8 had superior performance and those weren't any great shakes

fintail

Spring is springing, the cars are coming out:

Dorito

Gold

Trident

Presence, but those flares hurt

90s in so many ways

Stormy

We're the ones in the Imperial and we're running last?

Twofer

Pay for an ad and use this one pic lol

Thin on the ground but hopeful price and ad copy isn't reassuring

Pop up front pop up back

Optimistic hoarder

Patina bullet

"I will dicker but not much!" = "wife wants me to sell so I will pretend to try"

This was recently for sale for much less - either curbstoner or the strategy of raising price to attract looks

Big blue

Big red

ab348

Man, most of those are scary disasters. The ones that aren’t disasters are scary in different ways. The LHS looks to be solid but good luck finding any bits that aren’t available aftermarket. Buy an RX-7 for $5K and believe the rebuilt rotary engine just needs bolting in and you’ll be fine? Riiiiight.

explorerx4

Wish the Firbird had a better engine. Price seems high.
The headlights in the Imperial are kind of strange.

@ab348,
Saw the back of the Mazda. Has a new plate. Previous was WRAP. New one is TIME ATK.
Probably answers your 'Do they track it?' question.

tjc78

Gotta admit the TC has some great seats in it.

I still like the LHS, it’s a shame they weren’t the most reliable things.

oldfarmer50

I longed to have an Ambassador convertible as I was gearing up to get my license as a kid. There was something about the square body that appealed to me.

Those TCs were much cheaper a few years ago. I briefly considered getting one but the reliability scared me off.

I think Jim Rockford is still looking for that Firebird.

The LHS had the most comfy looking seats. I wish they still made them like that.

That Imperial might be a nice weekend cruiser but I suspect many demons lurk within. I like the MMW reference.

tjc78

The TC is all Chrysler so it wouldn’t have been any less reliable than a LeBaron, Spirit, etc. weakest point was the 4sp auto and the valve seals on the 3.0

sda

I remember on one of my many business trips to St. Louis about 10 years ago talking with the taxi driver. I observed it seemed most taxis were older, probably picked up at auction, various versions of the Chrysler minivans. He said they loved them as they were cheap to buy, comfortable, roomy and pretty reliable. When they needed work they were cheap to repair.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

The TC is all Chrysler so it wouldn’t have been any less reliable than a LeBaron, Spirit, etc. weakest point was the 4sp auto and the valve seals on the 3.0

Maserati electronics.

fintail

Those TCs do have lovely seats - Chrysler in general seemed to do a good job with leather, and the material looked and felt high quality too.

Imperial has goofy LED headlights, I see this now and then on old cars.

tjc78

@oldfarmer50 said:
Maserati electronics.

For what?

Everything was a parts bin build from Chrysler down to the HVAC controls and stereo

Maybe I’m missing something but I was always under the assumption that the TC was essentially a fancy body on a 6cyl LeBaron

texases

About 3800 came with the turbo 4, 3000 with the V6, and 500 with the 'Maserati' version of the 4 with DOHC and 4 valves/cylinder.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

Maserati electronics.

For what?

Everything was a parts bin build from Chrysler down to the HVAC controls and stereo

Maybe I’m missing something but I was always under the assumption that the TC was essentially a fancy body on a 6cyl LeBaron

Not quite sure of all the details but I think the TC body was built by Maserati and had many components unique to it. I know they went through several engines from a Chrysler 2.2 turbo then a Mitsubishi 3.0 and finally a Maserati built 2.2. Because it was assembled in Italy by Maserati they used Italian switch gear, brakes and even shocks.

I remember someone writing that the TC was the worst of both Italian and American production.

explorerx4

Finally got a picture of this. It's on a busy street, so it took a while to safely take a picture.

Michaell

explorerx4 said:

Finally got a picture of this. It's on a busy street, so it took a while to safely take a picture.

My dad had one of those as his first work truck - not in that condition, however, and certainly not lowered.