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Are they building one? My wife likes the current RX but we occasionally need the space for 7 people.
I don't like the MDX as much as the RX either...
Guess I'll be looking at more mainstream family vehicles... (Odyssey, Sienna, Freestyle, Entourage, etc)
The XC90 reliability ratings scare me. Its got a worse than average rating from CR... Otherwise, I really like it.
A minivan or a Ford Freestyle is probably a better idea though... I don't need AWD and I sometimes need to transport 7-8 people...
Back to the LS...
Jchan2, if you really want to transport 7 or 8 people, I owuld go with a Sienna. It's more luxurious than a Freestyle. The backseat is a lot bigger, too.
I agree. Also, the Freestyle really needs that new 3.5L engine Ford is working on, the Ford Taurus V6 is just not enough for a car like that. The Ford Taurus V6 is not enough for the Ford Taurus.
Back to the LS (a car I'd probably never be able to afford)
Will it get longer? It seems pretty long already...
The Freestyle will apparently be replaced with a Ford version of the Lincoln Aviator, probably using the same 3.5L engine that the Aviator is supposed to debut.
There will be a LWB version of the LS, so yes, its going to get longer.
These vehicles are being discontinued right after the ad launch!
Anyone who can't see how ugly the Freestyle is, and is willing to pay for the same old, tired Duratec deserves the resale value they git!
I'm tempted to get on a Lexus LS waiting list just to get the word straight from the horse's mouth in updates and product knowledge.
In 15 years the car hasn't grown longer to please the Japanese market, where smaller is better, but a LWB will be made available here in America, because it would sell BIG!
I'm very interested to see what Lexus interior designers do with the next LS. The Phaeton and A8 have set the bar extremely high for the level of elegance and luxury available in this class. Lexus has their work cut out for them.
Does anybody recommend a specific Lexus dealer in the Detroit area? I am edging to either Lexus of Ann Arbor or Lexus because I haven't been impressed with Meade in the past.
In regards to a large people moving machine, I also recommend the Sienna. While I would prefer a Lexus (in regards to luxury), the Sienna XLE Limited is well equipped. In fact, although it doesn't have typical Lexus perks such as auto windows on every door and high quality wood and leather, the Sienna Limited has adaptive cruise control which works well, rear view camera, xenon lights, and other things that are NOT standard on the any Lexus.
Minivans also get better gas mileage (the sienna takes premium, so mileage makes a difference) and are more user friendly in terms of space, though the engines, styling and handling leave a lot to be desired. But if you need to carry that many passengers, the sienna is the way to go (my wife drives the sienna for the kids, but since the kids are almost gone this may be the last minivan we get).
I will stick with LS, though I don't carry too many passengers, and don't haul around the kids.
My son drives a Highlander Limited, which is pretty nice. Again, I may have preferred a Lexus based on higher reliability (on avg. according to Consumer Reports) and service, but the RX is more of a "mother's" car according to him, and I was happy to buy him a less expensive car. A Lexus version of the Rav4 would have been excellent for him though. I wanted a smaller car for him than the Highlander, but the Rav4 was not suitable, with its 4 cylinder engine and lack of amenities.
Actually, I guess what I have to decide is whether to get a GS300 AWD in September '06 or a LS460 AWD in September '06 (will they have an AWD LS by September? Where I live AWD or FWD is essential with the hills and winter snow).
Would the LS be a) available in AWD and b) worth the lack of discount and also lack of rating by Consumer Reports or JD Powers.
*sorry... I seem to have had trouble collecting my thoughts concisely and coherently.
No problem. I think you did just great....
You are the target market for the next LS (I am also), and I think that the LS will probably go on the Tokyo Motor Show later this year, at least that's what some car mags in Japan are speculating. If that happens, then you and many of us can start to see what the real LS460 and its many other variants will look like. Clearly, this car will set and raise the bar on luxury full-size sedans once again, a la 1989. The new 4.6L in the SWB LS will probably not rate higher than 350HP, with a 3xxIb ft of torque. MPG will remain in the low 20s, despite the higher outputs from the new dual vvt-i engines. Straightline speed will remain under 6s 0-60, with the 4.6L/6A setup (heck, the current 290HP motor gets to 60 in 5.9s). And luxury features will be well done, as typical Lexus. I am waiting for this car, and will not get on a waiting list tho'. If these are hard to get, you can always employ the services of car shopping agents offered from your local credit union or Costco, for example.
And would the Costco car program be able to find you a hard to find car? Or would they just be able to get you a better deal?
An AWD Lexus LS is a big question mark at this point. Its a possibility.. but I'm not really expecting one. As for reliability ratings, dont worry about it. The SC430 and LS430 hold the #1 and #2 spots in the world for reliability. I seriously doubt that would change with the new model.
I just hope it will be available immediately (the GS AWD was available from launch right?... or actually, I haven't seen any new GS's on the road... have they even been released yet?)
I would have to settle for a GS if they aren't AWD LS in september '06.
Like they didn't want to give market share to the G35x or the RL, they won't want to give share to the S500 4matic or the A8 Quatro.
Maybe Year 1. Could that be sustained?
With LWB and Hybrid sales, share will probably be the same, but profit will increase. I'm sure the Germans don't see the LS as a direct competitor because of the price difference.
Haha! This isnt 1989. The LS may not be a threat to them in their home market, but here in the states, M-B definitely considers the LS as a competitor.
Just curious, can an anyone tell me the ratio of S500 4matics sold to RWD S models? I just didnt think there was big demand for AWD in this class.
The 7's ergonomics have gotten worst over the years as Audi and Lexus have raised the state of the art.
VW went over the LS' price by $10k without a thought.
The next LS should join them in the mid-60's, but it will bring plenty of market share with them.
Can't wait for more specifics and photos on the next generation LS - had planned to keep this one for 6-8 years but who knows, the bug may bite me hard.
Maybe the COMPARABLE V8 S is $85k. Autoweek reports that a V6 with comparable power to today's S430 is expected, than a S450 (see S500), than a S550 (check S600)
I would consider an LS COMPARABLE to a S with the $13k Luxury Pkg, which adds features that are also optional on the $85k S500. I would assume there is still a $20k difference in price for comparably equipped cars
I expect a Hybrid LS to run somewhere near the next S450 in price.
Do you expect Mercedes to raise prices on the S-Class significantly? In lieu of the current market condition, and their modest sales performance the last couple of years, anything over a modest increase would be a mistake.
$65k-90k should be Lexus' new ballpark.
I just want to inform all people from the Lexus LS forum that there's real prototype photo on the Lexus LS is now available on some member based Japanese and Asian websites.
These photos was taken approx 5 days ago while Kevin and Mr. Takada was test driving the new Lexus LS 4.6 liter, short-wheel base prototype outside the outdoor tracks at Toyota's Higashi-Fuji Technical Center.
Mr. Erik Bjalkvall and Mr. Nakayama from CarMode Japan were given speical permissions by Kevin and Mr. Takada to take two exterior shots of the new sedan while it has being tested on the test track. Therfore they are the only individuals that have acquired these true photo shots of the sedan...Do not trust anybody else!
Currently these photos are only restricted to individuals whom have register and subscribe a monthly fee. However a Chinese website recently bought the copyrights of these photos so you can view them in public...I will now provide the URL link:
Thank You for your attendsion, and I will keep up updated when new information is available
According to this site, the S430 is $78, the S500 is $87k.
The most expensive LS is around $72K, and that will have many features that are also optional on the S500.
So the next-gen S-Class will go up in price (most likely, due to currency rates and more equipment) to at least $80k-90k.
And a fully loaded LS and a stripped S430 are NOT COMPARABLE vehicles in performance or features.