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I will try to answer any direct questions asked on this forum.
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My 600 Hp '03 Mustang Cobra is on the auction blocks and as soon as its gone I'll be in the hunt for a SRT.
Both are same sticker price, black is going for $10,000 over sticker, and silver,is going for highest price dealer can get.(would not quote a price) I ordered a 2006, and not anticipating any problem with price. Hope i'm not dreaming!
And what city are these cheery folks located near?
Enjoy!
Let us have our joy.
"Follow-Up Test: 2005 Chrysler 300C SRT-8 "
14.1 in the Quarter Mile - and R&T recorded 13.3.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=1918&page_number=1
Odd.
- Ray
Thinking 13.3. is VERY quick for a 2 ton sedan - and 14.1 is not nearly . . .
That's 11:1 lbs per HP and 10:1 lbs per ftlb of tq.
The SRT8 weighs ~4050lbs and has 425HP and 420lbtq.
That's 9.5:1 lbs per HP and tq.
I don't find it unreasonable that this thing can do low 13's effortlessly with minimal practice.
This thing may be heavy, but it's VERY powerful.
Every '05 I have seen is fully loaded with sun roof, upgraded stereo, option package II, the hands free dialing, etc.Not sure if any were delivered without any of these options.
At $43,350 (including destination charge) that officially makes the 300C SRT-8 a steal. Chrysler is only making 10,000 of them, and the order banks are supposedly already filled.
Maybe we won't give this one back .
And maybe I just missed it, but I don't see a reference to Potenza tires - Goodyear, yes, Potenza, no.
Anyway, if you have comments for the editors you need to make them via the Feedback link at the top of the page. They aren't very likely to see them here.
Sorry you are upset - hope this is the last time your build date changes.
As to what this has to do with this site . . . I guess they are as good a scapegoat and target for your anger as anyone. Have at it. I have seen numbers from 14.1 down to 13.3 for quarter mile times. If I were Chrysler I would advertise conservative numbers and let the reviewers gush about how badly it beats the advertised numbers. But this spread is more likely from different skill drivers than bad test "equipment" if that is what you are insinuating.
Oh yeah, as for the tires . . . I think they all come with the 4 season Goodyears but it is no cost to switch to the F1s. From what I am hearing, and based on what I hear about the F1s on the Cadillac site's CTS-V threads, no one whould be going to the trhee season F1s unless it is a weekend driver only taken out in perfect weather.
2. The SRT was not under production after christmas. I forget when they told me that the first one rolled off but I can go back and look if you really care. The guys in Brampton also told us exactly when they switched over to '06 production. If the dates matter to you I will dig those dates up.
3.No dealer I know took orders on 2005 SRT8s back then because they didnt know they were coming. They also didnt know who got allocation until they showed up. A week before my '05 showed up, I was told to expect my '06 at end of april at earliest per the regional manager. One week later I was called to come pick up my '05.
4. Every estimate I have heard is for 5000 to 7500 2006 SRTs, not 10K. There were only 225 '05 SRTs, not "a few thousand". 35 were delivered in Canada and the rest in the US.
5. All quotes on ordered SRT8s I saw were for production starting in April. Again, no one knew about the '05 run until the guys in Brampton started listing VINs in production each day for a few of us on their web site.
6. I put my deposit down at least 4 months ahead of you and took delivery 10 days ago.
I would suggest you are confused on some of your facts and your expectations are out of line.
All I can say is hang in there. It is worth it.
First '05 SRT8 came off the line Feb 15. Two vehicles came off the line but one of the VIN numbers show it to be an '06 Dodge so no one is sure what that vehicle was. Next 5 rolled on Feb 17th as best I can see. VIN on first SRT8 to roll off was 2C3AA73WX5H627497
Hope some of this helps
Again, I'm sorry you are upset but I don't think your anger is appropriately expressed in this discussion.
Feel free to email me if you'd like to discuss the purposes of these boards and this discussion any further.
Thanks!
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Bottom line: I think you can order the equipment you really want/don't want if you ask. The basic SRT does not come with everything; however, I think the factory or dealers are ordering them with everything to bump up the $39,995 price.
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at what speed?
and at what speed does it actually make a major difference in how the car handles?
Am also curious as to what rear tires can best stand up to what most people buying this car will do to them.
1. Total orders taken across North America for 2005 SRT8's = 98,000, some were duplicate & bogus orders (no dealer allocation). Orders were officially being taken 3 Jan. If you ordered after 7 Jan, guess what? You were automatically bumped into a 2006. And that's assuming your dealer in fact even had allocation to order SRT8's. Only 30% of dealers were authorized. This has since opened up.
2. TOTAL build numbers for 2005 SRT8's = 225 + 44 to DCX Exec's = 269
3. First 2005 SRT8 built - 17 Feb 2005
4. Last 2005 SRT8 built - 24 Mar 2005
5. Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires are STANDARD tire (3 season)
6. All season tire available as an option for $100
7. EVERY other test for 0-60 & 1/4 mile done is far superior to the one done by the author. ?? driver capabilities ??
8. Don't believe build totals of 5,000-15,000 SRT8's for model year 2006! Maximum capacity at Brampton is 1,100/day. This includes all 300 series, Magnum, Charger. Since 29 March only ten 2006 SRT8's have been built to date. Engine availability is an issue as well.
9. The overall production of SRT8's will always be EXCLUSIVE and LIMITED.
BJS
I was unable to place the order until late February/early March when it appeared in their ordering system. I do not remember the exact day as I was on vacation in Hawaii and all the days seemed to run together.
I watched the Chrysler website almost daily and called the dealer the first day I saw it on their "build and price" section. He looked in his system and sure enough, it was now in his although some of the details were different as we compared the website to the factory ordering system.
At any rate, the order is now placed and I am waiting to hear something regarding production/delivery.
The numbers in your post appear to be pretty accurate. I was told that there would only be a couple of hundred 2005 SRT8's built and the 2006 production would be fairly limited...perhaps 2000. Can't wait to get it.
Personally I find the F1 tires very grippy despite what may have been reported elsewhere. My only complaint is the excessive brake dust that accumulates on those beautiful wheels. This I've been told is an inherrant fact with all high performance brakes used in this type of car and racing applications. I haven't heard about brake dust in the Vipers. Maybe you can comment on that. The 300C (5.7) uses ceramic pads, which are considered dustless and I've not heard of any complaints from owners of that car.
There have been a few comments made elsewhere on the SRT8 high engine temperature which some have voiced concerns over. One of the engineers who worked on the cooling system said it is designed to run hot and this is not a problem. The cooling system is considerably beefed up over the regular 300C.
Although it's been reported that 10 06 SRT8's have been built so far, they seem pretty few & far between. The Brampton Assembly plant is working on 55% Chargers, 30% 300's and 15% Magnums every day now. From what they say when an SRT8 comes off the line, it's pretty special and does not go unnoticed. They are really ramping up the Chargers right now. SRT8 Chargers are expected to begin September 12th.
I don't have build numbers for the 300C 06 SRT8 model year. It seems to me that if the Magnum, Charger & 300C all have the 6.1L engine, and don't forget the Jeep later this year, there may be a shortage of these engines unless they start making them in the US or Canada in a greater quantity than Mexico can produce. Perhaps a figure of 2000 total for all these vehicles combined would not be too far off. I was told sometime earlier that engines were in short supply, even the 5.7L. Whatever the total, it will be very limited.
BJS
EDIT: Just for the record and I can't prove it right now, I was told Jay Leno got the original SRT8 being built for me and I got the one from "the largest Viper dealership in the US", according to my dealer. I am communicating with someone in California who is going to a car show there where Leno usually visits. She's going to ask him if in fact he has one. I'd love to know as it would make a great conversation when showing my car off/ I mentioned the Viper dealer because you said you deal with the largest one.
The two largest Viper dealerships in the U.S. are Roanoke Motors in Roanoke, IL and Woodhouse Dodge in Nebraska. Go figure. They vie for top spot. Last I heard it was Roanoke due to the delivery of a large number of the special edition Vipers last Sept. at the Viper Owners Invitational.
When I got my first Viper in 99 I changed the brake pads after a couple of thousand miles to reduce squeaking and dust. I installed GreenBrakes and they virtually eliminated the squeaking and reduced the dust significantly. My '03 and '05 Vipers both produce significant amounts of dust but do not squeak. I just spend a lot of time cleaning wheels. I thought about changing again but my club President, who is also a mechanic, said I would just spend more money without gaining anything.
Appreciate the input on the tires. I opted for the all season as the straight high performance tires will give a lousy life span. Also very interesting what you have to say regarding how fast this thing is. This car is well over 4000lbs. To get times under 5 seconds would really be something. I remember test driving the 300C and thinking it was a lot faster than my E430 but could not be sure.
Would not surprise me at all if Leno got the very first one. He seems to have a special relationship with Daimler/Chrysler/Dodge. I know he has at least two Vipers and is a member of the Viper Club.