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This actually makes sense. Figuring that many UK-assembled vehicles are the likes of Jaguar, Land Rover (did VW and BMW leave Bentley and Rolls assembly there?), I could see where most of those luxo-brands would be exported.
kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
I guess the environ cons are celebrating another (union shop) to bite the dust ?
VW is planning to UP production (with up to 40% diesel) in Chattanooga TN.We will be selling 800,000 Volkswagens in the U.S. by 2018, and this new site will play a key role.
And not that this is in any way related Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, reside in Nashville, Tennessee.
A good use for diesel. Burn those old homes to the ground. Plant the lots in trees to mitigate the GHG in CA.
This actually makes sense. Figuring that many UK-assembled vehicles are the likes of Jaguar, Land Rover (did VW and BMW leave Bentley and Rolls assembly there?), I could see where most of those luxo-brands would be exported."
You're absolutely correct, (my "confused" symbol was ill-used), and, yes, we still build Rolls Royce and Bentley, (plus Vauxhall, (Opel) and Ford), Aston Martin and some other low-volume marques such as Morgan, Lotus and Caterham; all of which qualify as "specialist". However, we also build Nissan, Toyota and Honda here. Indeed, IIRC the Toyota factory is rated so highly that it is used to train Japanese production management staff...........which has to be a very big compliment. As for Honda, I believe we build some, (maybe most or all ?), of the CR-V's that are sold in the USA market.
We also used to build Peugeots but when times got tough or best pals - the French - took the work home. Mon Dieu; quelle surprise !! The same could soon happen with Vauxhall - depending upon who buys the Opel/Vauxhall bits of GM. The German government is pushing strongly for one of the potential purchasers who favours Opel and Germany. Mein Gott; another surprise.
BMW Unveils Plug-in Diesel Hybrid Supercar
top 100 countries based on sulfur limits in on-road diesel
Lax standards for fuel regulations and the most stringent regulations for emissions. Not a sound approach.
Dodge is losing the Sprinter. Mercedes will sell it thru existing Benz and Freightliner dealers.
Sprinter will receive new diesel engine in 2010.
2010 A4 TDI
Neighbour just taken delivery of an Audi S5 - 3.0 TDi : 237bhp/368lbft. Says it's "nice". I'd guess it probably is.
kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
How long until Ford brings the Transit and will GM enter the market?
kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
Thanks for the link.
30 mpg city / 42 mpg highway
Both cars even get the same fuel efficiency ratings from the EPA: 30 miles per gallon city / 42 mpg highway when equipped with the DSG gearbox. (The Golf TDI also offers a five-speed manual, which knocks 1 mpg off the highway figure.)
Buyers should note that the Volkswagen Group's TDI engines often returns far better real-world mileage than their EPA ratings would indicate.
Competition: Lexus HS250h
Audi clearly doesn't consider the Golf TDI competition, however. "The competitive set for the A3 TDI clean diesel is unique," it sniffs, naming only one competitor in fuel-efficient compact luxury vehicles: the 2010 Lexus HS250h.
That vehicle, based on Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive system, offers roughly similar fuel economy, but Audi highlights the A3 TDI's superior highway range.
Befitting a small luxury car, the A3 TDI's standard equipment includes leather seats, a cargo net and folding rear seats, as well as S-line exterior trim.
http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1034903_2010-audi-a3-tdi-priced-at-30k-8k-ov- er-2010-vw-golf-tdi
Sadly, it looks like I'm going to be waiting even longer.
Ask me if I'm surprised.
Thank you, California.
I have almost NEVER had to wait in line to get D2. The diesel engine is better adapted to our (USA) longer distance traveling than most other so called (gasser) economy cars. This thing can even run all day and not even hit the fuel station,(... well ok 6.25 hours and 584 miles for 12.1 gals; I didn't want to run out of D2 in the desert @ 104 degrees.)
On the other hand, if you go a steady 75 mph with bursts to 85 mph, 56 to 59 mpg isn't bad. Especially, if one doesn't mind the extra time that it takes to run the same distances.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Pretty strong words if quoted correctly. Can anyone post a link to the article? I am sure all the pc phonies and greenies will be all over him, but in spite of his lack of tact, there is a lot of truth in what he said.
Additionally a Fox news commentator talking about the Van Jones resignation (Green Jobs Czar) said the whole green jobs operation was a thinly disguised ruse to funnel money to Al Gore/Acorn and associates to further their GW scam.
He likened the Green Jobs Office to a watermelon. Green on the outside...but Red thru and thru.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
And about time too !! Don't worry about the manual trans, the DSG is just fine and you can still play with the 'box.
Went to watch some classic sports car racing to-day at my local circuit, (Cadwell Park, U.K.), No diesels racing - yet - but the "Course Car" was a new BMW X6 35d. Not a fan of the design; looks like someone leaned on the rear end of the roof, but thought it was interesting that it was a diesel. Guess the day will come when we see diesels in the "Classics" races...........or maybe not.
The head of Audi U.S.A. was recently quoted as saying that the GM Volt would be a complete failure and that only an idiot would consider buying one. He went on to severely criticize U.S. regulators for not recognizing the advantage of diesel vehicles here in the U.S. and for not recognizing that electric vehicles were a dead end.
Pretty strong words if quoted correctly. Can anyone post a link to the article?
Audi president Johan de Nysschen's quote link
Regards,
Jose
On the other hand, it has been more than obvious to them for a LONG time, and is starting to hit the US markets consciousness, that the FUEL sippers side of their product offerings in the US markets has been and continues to be excluded.
It has been easy to see in the VW Jetta. The 03 VW Jetta gassers were lucky to get 29 mph (driven like a hyper miler Prius), even as most folks report 24/25 mpg. In comparison, the TDI has been easy to get 48-52 mpg !!! The thing that does NOT come across is 48 mpg @ altitude (7k to 2k ft) and going 584 miles in 6.25 hours travel time !!! It is a no brainer to go 75 mph and get 56 to 59 mpg.
BMW's shows 335 D, EPA 23/ 36H/27 Com , while the 335 I, EPA 17C/26H/ 20 Com, or diesel being 35% better !!??
From the Audi President:
Although Audi has some hybrid vehicles on the way, the German automaker will rely heavily on its diesel technology to increase fuel economy and reduce overall emissions. Compared to standard gas engines, Audi’s diesel consume 25 percent less fuel and emit up to 35 percent fewer Co2 emissions – all while saving costs over a typical hybrid system.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Not too much in the news of note in recent times concerning diesel.
However one interesting side bar might be VW considering making the JSW (Jetta Station Wagon) ALL diesel. I am not sure what parts of those 81% in JSW diesel sales can be attributed to any number of factors, i.e., turbo diesel, wagon popularity, etc. Or... it may be that just this population that happened to buy JSW DIESELS are really ready and willing to execute the logic of having the utility, looks of a station wagon AND great fuel mileage,etc. !??
It is pretty clear however ,that even compared to Europe, which has upwards of 50% diesels; 81% diesel JSW is by definition a big majority, and obviously even more than Europe's (31% more).
As a side bar to the side bar, it would be interesting to see if Toyota would be as bold with a Prius hybrid station wagon, or just even a normal sedan again like the ill fated 03 Prius hybrid. It would seem Toyota is locked into the what now has become the iconic Prius model design. This would beg the question: how well would a diesel sell in this (now) iconic design. My guess is Toyota's decision not to do diesel is a CLEAR indicator.
Pretty darned impressive for a gasser in a decent-sized car, (i.e. not a Smart etc).
Link here :
C30 Facelift
US mpg (128 oz)= 60 mpg.(59.947).
If one compares them to Volvo's available here. the US market are getting the GAS guzzlers !!?? (aka, How can one NOT come to the conclusion that the fuel sippers are not available here?)
It would, indeed, be very difficult not to arrive at that conclusion. The fuel-sipper will doubtless be a revised 1.6D DRIVe which currently only shows a combined 64.2mpg, (Imp).
So how many US Volvo's do you know that get 42 mpg (vs 60 mpg) ?
The diesel Cayenne SUV accounts for 60 percent of the company sales.
Diesel SUV is responsible for 60% of sales for a company with image of expensive, high performance, sports cars.
Times are changing.
Here's the figures I have for the current Jetta Saloon in UK. All numbers are Imperial mpg on EU combined test cycle :
1.9 TDi 105bhp Blue Motion : 61.4
!.9 TDi 105 S (or SE) : 53.3
2.0 TDi 140 SE (or SE Sport) : 48.7
1.4 FSI 122 : 44.1 (Gasser for comparison)
1.4 TSI 160 : 42.8 (ditto)
2.0 TSI 200 ; 35.3 (ditto and Ouch !).
And three Passats just for fun.
Passat 2.0 TDi 170 : 45.6
Passat 2.0 TDi CR 110 : 51.4
Passat 2.0 TDi 110 Blue Motion : 57.6
My car of choice - given the money...........
Jaguar XF 3.0 V6 Diesel in any trim level : 42.0
I'm sure the EU and US test cycles are different; be suprised if they weren't, but no idea what %variance that generates. Sorry. General feeling in Europe is that EU stats are circa up to 8% optimistic vs "real world".
Hope this helps.
..."1.9 TDi 105bhp Blue Motion : 61.4 "...
(sic: imp gal/combined)=51.12 mpg US (128 oz)
The converted mpg is remarkably similar (European is 10% better) as the www.fuel.gov shows 48 2003 TDI owners reporting 46.4 mpg combined. Actually mine is closer to 50 mpg over 122,000 miles.
This might be lost on the other side of the argument, but the 2003 TDI is/was more powerful in Europe: 105 hp/180 # ft vs US market of 90 hp/155 # ft of torque (17% better) AND comes standard with a 6 spd manual vs US market 5 speed manual.
So to compare the numbers, the European model:
1. makes more power
2. has an extra gear
3. gets better mpg (10%) !!
Again it would be hard not to conclude the US version is "dumbed" down. Again it reinforces the notion that the better (mpg for certain and other points) European cars are NOT sent here. They of course have had a great market in the "gas" guzzlers.
(sic: imp gal/combined)=51.12 mpg US (128 oz)
The converted mpg is remarkably similar (European is 10% better) as the www.fuel.gov shows 48 2003 TDI owners reporting 46.4 mpg combined.
Key nugget for me in alltorque's post is that Europeans generally agree that EU ratings overpredict by 8%. Good to know. So I'd say, take 61.4, divide by 1.2 to get US gallons, multiply by 0.92 wor the 8% offset, and get 47 US mpg. Pretty darn close to the fueleconomy.gov entries.
In the future, I'll just multiply the UK rating by 0.77 to get my 'US equivalent'. Hey, a Fiat Bravo 2.0 Multijet makes 165hp, 265lb-ft, 0-60 in 8.0, and averages 41 US mpg, pretty cool!
BMW 335d isn't the diesel you might think
Especially if the other two relevant numbers here happen to be 425 lb-ft of torque and a redline that doesn't make its presence known until the tach needle reaches 5,000 rpm. Yes, I said 5,000, not 2,800. Or 2,200. This is one screaming diesel, if such adjectival terminology can be applied to such a powerplant.
And did I really say 425? You betcha. That's why the 3,800 pounds of 335d went from rest to 60 mph in, oh, about six seconds flat. At the top end, the diesel Three Series is a little slower than, say, the 335i, but the only place that counts is on a race track's longest straight. The very fact the 335d owner certainly could have a good time at a Friday at the Track event says a lot about this diesel.
What was even more impressive, however, was the way this thing absolutely scorched around slower drivers when passing on two laners. My tester was a six-speed automatic (the only available shifter), so a quick dip of the pedal brought a near-instant downshift and another dawdler was disappearing in the rear-view mirror.
Is it one of of the seven deadly sins to derive so much pure pleasure out of watching those guys fade away behind me, over and over?
Those who can interpret the curves to pick an optimun balance between the two could fit in, well, not a phone booth, but a pretty small space. None of them influence CARB, let alone inhabit it.
. . .and here we are -- cars that get 20-30% lower mpg to achieve 0.02% lower emissions. Oh, and it depends on which emission we're talking about: the evil CO2 or the even more diabolical NOx. European diesels are pretty good at the CO2 thing, but not up to the arbitrary CARB standards on NOx.
Oh boy.