Hyundai Azera 2006

averigejoe

If you are considering the Accord, maybe you should look at the Sonata instead. It is closer to the Accord than the Azera in almost every way, except maybe the price would be too low for you.

jim101

the best I've seen was 27.5, I'd take anything below 30.0

floridabob1

Hyundai extended warranty continues same terms as normal warranty to 10 years, 100,000 miles.
In state of Florida all dealers must have same fee. $1118,00 plus tax in purchased within 30 days or 5000 miles. Warranty is transferable once, or can be prorated and canceled.

frazee

Jack-rabbit quick. Great off the line, but one caution is something called "torque steer" (new to me as a first time fwd owner.) When you floor it, especially if you are doing it while turning, remember that you are driving the front wheels. If you also spin them, you can lose control, so need to be aware of it. Aside from that, 0-60 and passing are very quick and ride is excellent overall. Unless you drop into the super-engine range of cars this will haul with anything in its class. The combo of fwd and michelins did nicely during our 27 inch blizzard. Certainly much more punch than I had expected until I test drove it. Best way for you to really get comfortable is to test drive. Show up looking clean and respectable....show sales person you are serious and that you want to drive it and floor it (also test parkway entrance etc.) Should be no problem. :surprise:
P.S. Posting to this forum is a royal pain in the butt andr Edmonds should be ashamed as to how crappy their tech is!! :mad:

cneuman

Speaking of dual tail pipes, is it true that unlike the Azera, the Avalon does not have true dual tail pipes, but a single tail pipe with the cosmetic dual tail pipes attached? I read this somewhere on edmunds, I think. If so, what does this really mean, if anything, in terms of the actual car performance?

jim101

In state of Florida all dealers must have same fee. $1118,00 plus tax in purchased within 30 days or 5000 miles. :confuse:

floridabob1, can you explain the above $1118,00 Florida dealer something????

pocono35

Two things I would never trust when considering gas mileage when purchasing:

1. Window Sticker is 20-30% off
2. Auto publications...these guys drive these cars like a teenager.

I would listen to what owners tell you and even then who knows until you buy the car and drive it. Everyone drives differently. If you are concerned about the gas mileage of a $30k car, u can't afford it and should get an Accent or Elantra

ricwhite

Two things I would never trust when considering gas mileage when purchasing:

1. Window Sticker is 20-30% off
2. Auto publications...these guys drive these cars like a teenager.

True, actual mileage will vary for you, but those sources are fine for comparing vehicles. EPA gas mileage on the sticker is usually under ideal circumstances, so it will be usually be higher than reality. But since they test all cars the same way, it can be used to compare one car to another.

The same is true for publications. Yes, they drive much more aggressively and the gas mileage is lower. But since they drive ALL of their cars like that you can, again, use it for comparison.

ricwhite

Speaking of dual tail pipes, is it true that unlike the Azera, the Avalon does not have true dual tail pipes, but a single tail pipe with the cosmetic dual tail pipes attached? I read this somewhere on edmunds, I think. If so, what does this really mean, if anything, in terms of the actual car performance?

I'm not sure if Avalon has a single exhaust outlet or not. But in terms of performance, the Avalon (even with a possible single outlet) is faster than the Azera. 0-60 times are 6.2 for Avalon and 6.8 for Azera. Both very adequate. But it appears that the Avalon has a more efficient engine. Not only is it more powerful and faster, but it gets 20% higher gas mileage.

The technology exists for very efficient high powered engines, but most manufacturers choose not to produce them because of a slightly higher initial cost. Can they make a 300 horsepower engine that gets 35 mpg highway? Yes, they can.

One of the (slight) disappointments with the Azera for me is that the engine doesn't appear as efficient as others in its class.

gene_v

The Hyundai Entourage (Minivan) coming out will have a 244 hp 3.8 liter Engine.

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/availablesoon/entourage.aspx

chilliwack

Just saw my car at the dealership. They located my color combo. Looks incredible. It's a done deal (almost) . Thanks to all for the replies to my questions. I took a look under the Azera and it appears to be one exhaust collection pipe to the rear of car, then it splits to two exhaust ports. Not a true dual exhaust system.

chilliwack

Get the grey leather...those door handles blend in nicely.

jim101

Who can tell me about interiors?

We have the light beige the concern is keeping it clean.
Has anone with beige had a problem with dirt and any ideas on how to clean? :confuse:

Grey, does it come with wood trim or the grey cross grained effect? How easy is it to keep it clean?

How many different type wood colors are available?
We've seen light wood and a darker red, is there rime or reason for this? :confuse:

chilliwack

The black interior sports the lighter "blonde" wood trim. The grey has the darker rose color wood trim. I think the beige is rose also. As for how to keep clean... :confuse: I guess I will find out soon enough.

frazee

Interior color is really pure taste...BUT, the light-colored upper dash,near the windshield DOES reflect light when it is bright out and I find that annoying....Not sure if the grey would do the same. You may wish to check this if this is one of your hot-buttons.

chilliwack

Here is my deal: 27,800 with no excessive fees. Dealer also will offer additional 10/100,000 bumper to bumper for 829. This is much better than the lease terms he put together. I think it is decent.

markb50k

We wanted to trade in our 04 TL because of a few reason but primarily because of a ton of rattles and little issues plus we were almost out of warranty and we are buying a house and needed to lower our payments.

So...It was a rainy Saturday, and my wife and I were pretty much decided on getting a 06 Accord EX V6 w/o NAV, and had haggled a dealer down to ...

He gives me $23000 for my 04 TL (w 41K miles)
He cuts me a check for $5500 (the difference to the payoff)
He sells me the accord for $25100 (before tax)

My wife wasnt really excited about the Accord and she saw the Azera on Edmunds and really took a liking to it. I have never even considered a Hyundai before but was open minded. So we stopped by the Hyundai dealer on our way to the Honda dealer just to check things out.

Long story short, we got the following deal
Venetian Blue / Gray
Limited w/ Premium Pkg
He gives me $22500 for my TL
He cuts me check for $5000
I pay the same price per month as I would have with the Honda.
Effectively I am getting the Azera for $25100

I know they played with the numbers with the trade in and but it doesnt really matter because in the end I am buying an Azera for about $500 more than the Accord, and IMO the Azera is easily $500 better than the Accord.

We went into this figuring we would have to step down from the Acura but it would be worth it to get some more cash for our house purchase, but I don't think we are stepping down at all.

Initial impressions are that the car is a really well put together car that is smooth as silk on the highway and quiet to boot. Easily bigger than the TL inside, and better Torque, plus we can use regular gas. We gave up Bluetooth and opted not to get the seat memory, but all in all we feel we simply stepped over instead of down.

captvege

What version/options did you get for that amount?

markb50k

I got the Limited with the Premium Package. The Ultimate would have been 1K more, but we passed on it. Also got sunroof reflector, floor mats.

ricwhite

Also got sunroof reflector, floor mats.

I'm willing to bet that you'll remove the sunroof reflector before too long as many others have done.

mtnman1

I have a 2003 Sonata LX that has a beige leather. Don't know if you are referring to a leather interior. Forgive me if you're not. I can tell you the interior is still like new after owning for 34 months. I just use a leather cleaner and conditioner twice a year on the seats and the door inserts.

floridabob1

I have just been emailed by the Consumer Affairs Dept. of Hyundai regarding the missing Reverse Parking Aid (Tilt Mirror) feature which was to be included in the vehicle.
They apologized for the mistake, but other than say that they were printing new Owners Manuals eliminating mention of the feature, they would do nothing. I have stated that I purchased the model prior to it's formal introduction and was informed at the time I gave my order, that the feature was to be included.
I have requested compensation from Hyundai America due to the missing feature.

chilliwack

Limited with Ult pkg. No trade-in

backy

Good luck. One lesson here is, if a feature is really important, test it out before taking delivery.

jim101

mtnman1 thank you

jim101

Stopped by Hyundai's #8 dealer in Ocala today looking for a grey Azera interior, they're harder to find then hens teeth.

Told me they sold 4 Azera's between the time I called and arrived some 60 minutes later, lie one (has anyone ever been in and out of a dealer in less than 60 min when buying?).

Told my wife the extra mileage was from a manager driving back and forth from gated community, lie two.

Told me the car had been driven down from NC... seems like a car driven from one dealer to another is pre-sold, you wouldn't drive it down to put in inventory, lie two with a spin making it lie three.

Dealer add on's (all models), Hyundai pin strip, paint protection (wax job), mud flaps and wheel locks with an add on price of nearly $3,000.00 over MSRP. They offer to drop price by $1,500.00 only to add on nearly $500.00 for 'paperwork' (pays the hourly wages of two people for 30 minutes of work each), lie four.

They claim mark up is only .2%, lie five.

They talk about end of month and making 'bottom line' pricing offers to make month end sales goals then come back with pricing above above normal, lie six, seven, eight and more. :sick: :sick: :sick:

We walked away laughing, I certainly hope buyers don't fall for the 'stories these dealers fabricate'?

markb50k

My wife has already commented that the sunroof reflector blocks too much of the sunlight coming in, so removal is something that has crossed my mind. Why are others doing it? Is my paint already scratched by the thing? That was always my issue with sunroof reflectors in the past.

Thanks

chilliwack

Apparently, this wind deflector makes a lot of noise at higher speeds. I had the dealer remove mine before picking up car. I think it looks better without anyway/more streamlined.

snakeweasel

Told me they sold 4 Azera's between the time I called and arrived some 60 minutes later, lie one (has anyone ever been in and out of a dealer in less than 60 min when buying?).

It is possible that someone buying the car might have been there when you called and was still there finishing up the paperwork when you got there, and they made the commitment in the time it took you to get to the dealer. Four going like that in that time period is unlikely but possible.

Told my wife the extra mileage was from a manager driving back and forth from gated community, lie two.

This brings up the question of how many miles were on it.

Told me the car had been driven down from NC...

It is possible that they traded cars, sending another to the other dealer for a customer.

Dealer add on's

That is almost pure profit for the dealer and I wouldn't pay more that $100.00 for that (maybe $125.00 tops).

jim101

Snake, good questions...

When I called dealer said they had six Azera's on lot, 60 minutes later they had two. Four deals in process in parallel, I don't think so. Lie was telling me they had six to get me in and try to sell me the dregs of what has been on the lot for more than 2 months.

They told the wife... 600 miles were on it.

Same car from NC... same 600 miles, different story.

Not only 3k in 'add on's' but another 500 on that for paper work.

Honestly, I think they think customers are two bricks short of a load. It's quite insulting, actually.

I tell the forum this to ensure that the previous stories and the ones to follow from other buyers may save others from paying the dealer over and above acceptable cost.

Another dealer in Daytona advertised a premium package Azera for $23,458 plus 2k cash or trade equity plus 599 dealer fee (price now up to 26,057) and of course tax, tags, title which takes the cost up to approximately 28k (demo, not sure of the mileage) on a three day special, it didn't sell, it's still there. So the deal isn't really a deal for a demo unit because the 10/100k changes to 10 minus the 1k from warranty for every 1k on the car before you buy. So if the car has 2k on it your warranty is 10/98k and 5/58k.

Have to go now, my lobotomy is in 20 minutes.

backy

I have heard of buyers successfully negotiate the extension of a factory warranty to include the demo miles already on the car, e.g. to 10/102k and 5/62k. Worth a try, anyway.

ratledge

I drive a car with HID lights now, and this Azera is very similar in almost every feature plus a few nice ones, but appears to have standard (Halogen?) lights for the low beams - that's correct, isn't it? Does anyone know what bulb they have in High/Low/Fog? I could always buy some PIAA bulbs and give it a boost and a little better look, but that was the one thing that I really didn't like. :shades:

jim101

No, I don't think they're halogen, they're suppost to be 'Three Beam Jeweled Projector Headlights'?

Question is what does 'Three Beam Jeweled Projector Headlights'mean? I couldn't find a good explaination or definition.
What is the definition of HID (high intensity ____)?

mechanic80

"High Intensity Discharge" to fill in that blank. I was anticipating a bit of buyer's remorse, as I traded an '05 KIA Amanti that I really liked. It didn't materialize...I LOVE THIS CAR! Look out, Japan, Korea's comin' on strong.

frazee

They
ARE
Halogen lamps. :shades:

floridabob1

I didn't check the windshield wipers, heated seats, ABS system etc. If I was sold the car with these features included, the company should not omit the features without disclosing to buyer, before they take delivery. It is impossible to have a buyer check all elements of a vehicle prior to taking delivery.

ratledge

Yep - you've got it, jim101... (and mechanic80)

So, now - I wonder. It looks like the main (high) beams are 9004/9005 bulbs behind a typical "can't view directly" difuser so you don't burn your eyes out and the low beams are looking through a prism of some sort; and just a quick look at the fog lamps I think they might be H3's. Then again - not certain. Oh, well - anybody got one in captivity that can check the driver's manual?

backy

Yes, it is impractial for a buyer to check all elements of a vehicle prior to delivery. But IMO it is always a good idea to do two things when buying a car: take it for a thorough test drive before closing on the deal, to make sure there are no obvious defects (e.g. wheel shimmy, odd noises, all the major systems and features work), and have someone at the dealership take you through the operation of all of the major features of the car. By doing these two things, the odds of taking delivery of a car that has major defects or that does not have features that you expected it to have are greatly reduced.

I have seen posts on Town Hall about buyers who were actually given the wrong car--wrong color, wrong trim level, etc. That is, they took delivery of something other than what they thought they were getting. By carefully inspecting/driving the car before delivery, they could have avoided a lot of hassle later.

frazee

In Owner's Manual here is all they give: High Beam 55 Watts P14, 5s
Low Beam 55 Watts PX26d

Fog Light 35 Watts PGJ19-1

Also, note that this does have an "auto" headlight feature which uses a light sensor at the front of the dash pad if you wish to use it.

frazee

Does anyone have the address where Technical Service Bulletins for the car would be available?? It is important for each owner to keep current on these and make sure that the dealer acts on them promptly when they are issued.

backy

http://www.hmaservice.com/

jim101

OK, the Azera comes with 'Halogen' headlamps.

Does anyone know of aftermarket 'HID' replacement bulbs for the Azera?

I'm a real believer in the 'blue' light, improved vision in fog and smoke (Florida fires of 1998) and will upgrade myself as soon as I find a supplier.
I don't know the exact scientific words on why 'blue' is better but the light does not reflect off of the fog dropplet or smoke like halogen does.

Any definition for the 'jeweled projector headlights' found yet? :confuse:

ratledge

The simple explanation is that those lights that have a whiter or blue-er tint burn at a higher color temperature than the standard lights. Typical indoor lighting = about 3000K temp, halogen = about 3600K, HID = about 4100K temp. I've seen 'blue' lights with ratings up to 5000K that are street-legal in the US, and some from Japan that rate up to 7500K, but those are NOT approved by the US DOT for use here in the states.

I didn't think about it when I asked my question, but it stands to reason that the Azera uses bulbs that don't fit what I think is normal because most of the H1/H2/H3/H4, 9001/9002/9003/9004/9005 bulbs are made in Japan and not Korea...

ratledge

I read about the options to enable the auto-rollback of the front seat and the option to automatically lock the doors - both of which were dealer options or dealer settings that you can't "fix" yourself.

Are there any other options that I need to know about if I'm about to buy an Azera?

kitasoo

I picked-up my white Limited with the Ultimate package yesterday evening. On the way home, I had a chance to drive about 40 miles in the wrong direction on the freeway out of Rapid City (it's amazing what a first drive in YOUR new car will do to you).

Being out in the middle of nowhere, I kept noticing something odd about the beam projected by the headlights.
I've never driven a car where the illumination of the headlights just stops. I know they're projector beam halogen but I've never had a car with these type of lights before, so maybe it's normal.

The coverage to the sides is more than I expected and the brights seem to go forever.

FYI, I purchased the vehicle 4.5 % over invoice, no add-ons, no tricks, just a pleasant experience....love the car.

mechanic80

I took delivery of a Limited Ultimate and the automatic door lock feature was already activated as is the steering wheel retract. I simply set my prefered settings as "1" and using "2" for the (infrequent) other driver of the car it serves as my "easy-out". I trained myself to press the seat position switch before turing off the ignition when I had the KIA Amanti as it had no Easy-Out functions at all.

ratledge

Answering my own question, there's a new Technical Bulletin on their "hmaservice.com" web-site today that shows that the "Limp Home" feature is disabled by default although it is described in the owners' manual (and how to turn it on). Looks like there are several features that need to be tuned before delivery that they just don't know about yet! This TB is dated "March 2006" and serial # = 06-90-009. This is the feature that allows you to get to your dealer if someone has activated the engine immobilizer by trying to start your car without a proper key-coded key (or otherwise)...

ratledge

I suppose I haven't really read too much of this thread, but you can program both automatic lock and automatic unlock - both of which are disabled when the Azera comes from the factory. You can have it two ways (for each): lock when transmission is shifted out of park, or lock when speed reaches 13 mph. For unlock, you can pick either unlock when shifted into park or unlock when key is removed from ignition (this last one sounds like a bad idea for me, but might be useful for folks with small kids).

mechanic80

I swear, this forum is the busiest one I've been monitoring. That's a good thing...exchange of information. Knowledge is power. Keep it comin'!

ricwhite

Today, Hyundai posted on their website the "special offers" for March. For the Azera, they are offering again (actually "suggesting" to dealers) the $299 lease special. They changed the details slightly however. It is better than before. The old offer (February), the dealers had a very difficult time meeting the $299 "suggestion".

With the new lease, Hyundai upped the "rebate" (HMAC support) to $1500 instead of $1000 and upped the down payment by $75 ($2999). This should help dealers be able to actually accomplish the lease as specified. With the February lease deal ALL of the dealers in my area refused to do it because there was NOT ENOUGH support from Hyundai and they wouldn't make enough profit. Now, it might be different.

Lease deal is for an Azera Limited. $299/month for 27 months. (You will have to negotiate if you add on the premium or ultimate packages).

Fine print:

Lease a 2006 Hyundai Azera Limited for $299/month for 27 months, $2,999 customer cash down plus $1,500 HMFC origination support*, and $3,598 due at signing. See your local dealer for lease details. This program is effective from March 01, 2006 through March 31, 2006

link to Hyundai offer