Hyundai Azera 2006

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  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    Purchased my 2006 Azera Limited (premium) in March 2006. Requested dealer to program the "Limp Home" password for the 1st time yesterday. Dealer says "Sure...for $45"!! I insisted the opportunity to program this code was never presented to me at delivery. I found out after reading owner's manual. After discussing issue with the salesperson and Service tech, they would not perform this service for me without this "charge". The reason...this immobilizer/limp home function is an "optional" item?!?! I even faxed the service department a copy from their own Hyundai website, listing the standard features, which clearly indicates the "anti-theft engine immobilizer"! I also faxed them a copy of page 6 from the owner's manual, indicating this limp home password should have been provided at delivery. (Also, the statement "if installed" does not exist on this page.) Again, "No can do"! After speaking to a customer service rep in California, she suggested I pay for this programming, then contact her for "possible" reimbursement! After voicing my reluctance to do so, she offered to investigate the matter and respond to me within 3 days. I guess what irked me the most is that the my salesperson insisted this item is an "option"! I could possiblly understand that statement a year ago, since this vehicle was only on the market a few months, but not today! I'm just wondering if she was "told" to tell me that, or she "just doesn't know"! I'll keep u informed.
  • jim101jim101 Member Posts: 252
    If you pay for this call me, I have land in Florida, only $100 per acre, near the ocean.

    Go to another dealer the one you are going to is picking your pocket.
    'Limp Home' programing is free, the feature is 'standard' on the 'premium'. Actually 'all adjustments' for the first 12 months are 'free' this even includes four-wheel alignments.

    Calling Hyundai obviously was for not as the person you spoke with just didn't have awareness of your request.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Yeah...if you pay for any of the vehicle programming (limp home or door locks), you're being taken for a ride. It is supposed to be a complimentary service provided as part of the sale. Unfortunately, I have yet to hear of anyone mentioning that their salesperson asked them about any of their programming preferences during the sale.

    To be honest, I didn't know about the programming at all until I visited the forums here!!!
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    The whole procedure takes about 10 minutes, at most. They use the hand held scanner. You are being ripped off by your dealer. I found out about the "option" by reading the manual and the sales manager was not even aware of the option. I had the limp home/immobilizer and lock/unlock options programmed at the same time. I made it quite clear I expected it to be done no charge. I had already purchased an 06 Sonata before buying my Azzy. Tell the service manager that you will not be bringing your car in for service(hope you have other dealers in the area)unless they will accommodate you. Keep us informed.
    Don
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    Hey Don

    Thanks for all your comments. I have "stopped in" at 1 other dealer briefly to ask about this. They acted like, "you didn't buy it here, take it back where you bought it!" Business must be good.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    They didn't treat you like THAT did they? That's totally absurd, considering you can get any warranty work done at ANY Hyundai Dealer Service Department. Heck, you from my understanding, you can even go to a Kia Service Department as well. It just seems that Hyundai has some good intentions, but....the dealerships aren't following along with it.
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    Allmet

    Are u still located in the D.C. area? I'm just a little north of you in Charm City. How friendly are you with your dealer's service department? I'm thinking if you have a good rapport, maybe you could be the middleman so I could get this done. :)
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Azeradave, yes...I'm still here in D.C. Don't think I'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

    Charm City, huh? Would that be B-More???

    I've got a real good rapport with the guys over at Alexandria Hyundai. Honestly...I would tell you to go there and just speak to Kenny or Ron and tell them that Mike Washington sent you over to be taken care of. They know me quite well. They've ALWAYS provided great service and support from the day I bought my '02 Sonata till now. ;)

    What would you like for me to tell them?
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    Mike

    I just mapquested said dealership. About an hour drive from the office, not bad. Just tell them about the reluctance of my dealership not willing to "do this" without a $45 charge, and if they could. This would be the initial programming for the limp home password. I believe my 1st anniversary is March 8, 2007. I want to give the customer rep in California a few days to respond first though. Thanks for your help. I'll be posting!
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Dave,

    If you tell me where you're coming from specifically...I can tell you an easy way to get there.

    Okay, I just got off the phone with the service department. The explanation that she gave me was this. You can't just show up and get the programming done for free as you didn't buy the car there. However...if you were to get a service done there (i.e. oil change, tire rotation...something), she said it could be worked in as you would now be a customer there.

    She also went on to explain that all Hyundai dealerships are independently owned, so it's not a corporate thing that's handed down, it's something each dealership owner decides. I guess most of them are feeling greedy rather than generous.

    I know when I got my door locks programmed, I asked them to do it when I got an oil change and they said no problem and there was no extra charge for it. What's funny is I spoke with the regional Hyundai Corp. representative and he said that all programming is supposed to be done free of charge. Funny how corporate can say one thing and when you get to the dealers, they know nothing of what corporate is saying.

    Do me a favor, hit me with an email so I can give you some specific info, you know how they get about name dropping here on the forum and it slipped in an earlier post (please forgive me folks). You can reach me at washingtonm@sec.gov or washingtonmd33@yahoo.com.

    Mike
  • pahefner01pahefner01 Member Posts: 202
    If not against the rules of this board can you publish the name of the dealer? It would be good information for others in your area to know. Dealers who try to rip owners off should be disclosed for such activities.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Oh...I did, Alexandria Hyundai (Alexandria, VA), but I did put the names of the two folks I deal with regularly...that's what I was referring to.

    Ken Dixon Hyundai (Waldorf, MD) is another that's been pretty good as well.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    If the dealership from which you purchased your Azera refuses to do initial programing for door locks and limp home mode, you should notify Hyundai Consumer Affairs (Obtain a file number) I am certain that they will convince that dealership to perform that service for you, free of charge.
    I would notify the owner of your local dealership of the poor treatment that you have received.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Absolutely, however...if you choose to go to another dealership...speak with the owner/manager and tell them your story of mistreatment. In some cases, you'll find they will want to win your business over and they'll start treating you as if you had bought the car from them.

    I've got a dealer in my back yard (5 mins from my house) that I won't even consider dealing with because of past reputation and what I've seen from having gone there before. I don't mind the 20 minute or 30 minute drive to the two other dealers.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Well, well, well...it seems that the cold temps were too much for my hood release cable. I went to open the hood to refill my windshield washer fluid resevoir and when I pulled the hood latch...nothing happened. I thought maybe it was frozen, so I poured some hot water down the hood...still nothing. :sick: Actually, I don't think the weather played a major deal in all this, it was probably defective and the really cold temps just helped the defect come to light. :(

    Took it to the dealer earlier this afternoon and within 15 minutes...they came back to tell me that the cable had somehow snapped. Well...the tech said he is ordering one, so hopefully by Wed. or Thurs. my hood will be fixed. :confuse:
  • gamlegedgamleged Member Posts: 442
    Hope they topped-off your washer fluid (with de-icer) in the meantime!... ;)
  • sergio19sergio19 Member Posts: 90
    allmet33,
    The exact same thing happened with my car too.
    They ordered the cable too.
  • grayfoxgrayfox Member Posts: 166
    I wonder if both cables broke at a common point? Maybe it is something we can all check visually or do we just wait until it breaks?
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    I'd love to! This isn't the 1st time this dealer gave me resistance about programming. The first time concerned the WOT (wide open throttle) issue that a TSB was even issued for!! Pat, can I post the dealer's name and address? :confuse:
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    hey Bob

    I did get a file number from corporate. They promised a response in a few days. I'll call them on Wednesday if no response by then. Thanks.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Posting the dealer's name and general location is fine. We'd rather you did not post specific contact information. See the Rules of the Road (link on the left) for details. :)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 3658
    Hopefully, they can convince the dealer that they are acting foolishly. The entire procedure takes less than 10 minutes.
    Talk about"Good will"!
  • akoni1akoni1 Member Posts: 35
    I got to this discussion late. Can someone tell me what "limp home " means and why it has to be programmed?
    Thanks in advance.
  • wardswards Member Posts: 17
    The hood release failed twice on my Azera.The release handle is made of white metal and there is aball at the handle end. If the cable binds the ball pulls right through the handle as it did twice in my case.You can still open hood by pulling on the ball with pliers.
    Dealer claims he modified handle so we will wait and see what happens. I haven't tried to open hood recently as temp -35
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:3661
    Limp home mode is a function of the security system. If the computer senses that an unauthorized entry or attempted engine start is made the security system disables the vehicle. A security code entry via the ignition key allows you to drive to a dealer at a reduced speed, hence "limp home" who will "unlock" the car, allowing normal use.
    By the way, the dealer can also program the "ez exit" feature which automatically moves seat 3/4 way back and raises the steering wheel to full upright position upon removal of the ignition key.
  • akoni1akoni1 Member Posts: 35
    Double thanks Bob.
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    Let me add to the discussion that to program the limp home mode takes no more than 10 minutes, at most. They use the hand held scanner and program it in with a 4 number code that you select. There really should be no charge, and if you use the dealer for your necessary services that should be a "no brainer". My dealer did the limp home mode and lock/unlock mode at the same time, no charge and it wasn't even an issue.
    Don
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    It's funny how one can feel that he's the only one with a certain problem until you post about it on the internet and see that others have had the same thing happen to them. :surprise:

    I certainly hope that this isn't a problem caused by crappy design or poor materials for the particular application. If it is, I can see my warranty getting used an awful lot! ;)

    Also, I'm gonna do an inspection and see if the cable end pulled loose from the handle. If that's the case...maybe we'll hear about this a little more and complain to Hyundai and they'll make a necessary change in design or materials used.
  • grayfoxgrayfox Member Posts: 166
    Good information for all of us. Thanks for sharing.
  • gamlegedgamleged Member Posts: 442
    It's a little surprising that this wasn't picked up, as Korea's locale isn't exactly in the tropics!...
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I checked mine today. It was the ball end of the cable coming detached from the lever. However, in the infinite wisdom of the tech that looked at my car...the front trim piece of the grille, the part attached to the hood...was broken loose. They will be replacing that as well.

    I too was able to open my hood using a pair of pliers and pulling on the end of the cable.

    Oh yeah, I also figured out how to adjust the parking brake as well! ;) There's an access panel located in the bottom of the center console cubby. Remove all contents and you'll see the rectangular panel. Pop it loose, lift it out and you'll see the adjustment nut between two cables. With the parking brake off, you can turn the nut clockwise to tighten. I shall tell you...it can be done by hand, but you will have to contort your hand in such a way to get at the nut. A 1/2" wrench works, but...with such limited space, you won't get too much of a turn using it.

    Just a lil FYI for those DIY'ers.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    re;3669
    Mike
    Is there any area of the car that you have not yet explored?
    I wish that you were my Hyundai rep. or service manager.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Bob,

    To be honest...there's a few nooks and crannies I haven't gotten into as of yet. However, I can tell you...the space behind the ash tray...I don't think it'll work for what you wanted to do there. There is quite a lot of stuff back there. However...one option may be to install it in the compartment below the climate control center. Not sure if it gives you the depth you would need, but if it did...then with the door open you have access to the unit and when you want to get out, you can tuck it away and close the door. Just a thought.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    Mike
    Did you actually get to see behind that vertical panel forward of the ash tray door and under the compartment that you reference? One of the techs at the local dealership thought that the space behind the vertical was open. I thought that the removal of the center console would be a tough job, as I have installed a wood dash kit that covers the top surfaces of the console.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Some posts were moved to another discussion - here's the link: allmet33, "Hyundai Azera: Headlights/HIDs" #85, 20 Feb 2007 11:29 am.
  • fgfanfgfan Member Posts: 3
    New 2006 with 500 miles. Never lock it in the garage. A few days ago found doors locked. Unlocked, opened driver door and closed. Didn't lock but, while working in garage, heard doors lock and system re armed within a minute from closing door. Repeated this procedure several times and system re armed every time. Now has since quit automatic arming function. Anyone know what's going on?

    Thanks,
    Emmett
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:3680
    If you use your remote to unlock doors and physically do not open door within 1 minute the system will automatically re lock doors.
    Use remote to unlock doors, open door to car than close.
    Doors should not re lock unless you hit lock on remote.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I didn't go behind that area, but when I had the panel off to install my RCA cables for my radio, I looked down there and that area is pretty cluttered with components.

    That is why I suggested the compartment under the climate controls. Access would be VERY easy as you can remove the entire panel to work with it. Installing a 12 volt plug in source there would be quite easy

    You're right about that center console being difficult to get out. I ran my patch cables under the center console to the back and when I removed the screws along the sides and the two bolts located in the arm rest cubby...it still didn't want to come out. So there's other points that hold it down as well.
  • fgfanfgfan Member Posts: 3
    Thanks, guess I got confused on my sequence of events. Checked out and it works as you described. Thanks again!

    Emmett
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE; 3682
    I looked at the online manual for console removal, and it does not look terrible. My only problem is that I would be forced to remove some of the after market trim pieces that I had installed. If any of them break, I would be screwed as the manufacturer will not supply individual pieces.
    If I went through all of that and did find enough open space, I would freek out.
    The Ipod holder and transmitter that I use is designed to have the Ipod visable for access and not be tucked away.
    If it were the type that could be hidden, I would put it in the console with the 12V receptacle.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I think you're missing how you could utilize that spot. Of course when you have the unit in operation, it would be plugged in and visible because you could keep the panel door down (which would also support the iPod). When not in use, you could disconnect the iPod and slip it into the compartment, close the door and now it's not seen.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    re 3685
    How difficult is the removal of the panel under the A/C?
    That panel includes the ignition key.
  • gamlegedgamleged Member Posts: 442
    Carry the wireless keyfob in your pocket? Pants a little tight, or you occasionally lean against that pocket? The keys on the fob can be pressed in that manner, and if you're within range of the car, you can accidently lock, unlock, open your trunk latch or set off the panic alarm, I've done each one too many times to count... :(

    Do a search of this thread for fob (as in key fob) to see earlier discussions...
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Believe it or not, it's actually quite easy.

    Remove the wood trim at the top of the dash and you'll reveal 3 screws that you'll remove.

    You'll need to loosen the panel under the steering wheel as well, as there is a screw located below the ignition that the panel covers. You'll remove that screw as well.

    If you feel under the area were the dash cubby is, you'll feel two screws...remove both of those as well.

    At this point, the panel can be pulled off. Best way is to take a flat tip screw driver and insert it at the top and push forward to pry the panel up, once it pops free you can remove it by hand. Don't worry about the dash, it's a foamy material that will go back to it's orginal shape.

    Once you've pulled the panel forward, you'll just need to unhook all the harnesses: Two at the top wehre the clock is, one for the hazard lights, one for the humidity sensor and two for the climate control.

    After all harnesses are removed, the panel is yours to do with what you will.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 3688
    Thanks!
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    No problem...and good luck!
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    J.D. Power Initial Quality Study
    According to owners after 90 days of ownership.

    Hyundai was the No. 1 non-premium brand in the United States, edging past Toyota, the Japanese brand whose rock-solid quality reputation has been shaking Detroit's dominance in the nation's auto market for years.

    Overall, Hyundai was No. 3 in this year's report, behind No. 1 Porsche and No. 2 Lexus, Toyota's luxury brand, and right ahead of Toyota. Last year, Hyundai was No. 11, so the leap made Hyundai the third-most improved nameplate this year.

    Or is this old news? When does the next model year survey results come out?
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    RE3649

    Yes I will. Thompson Hyundai outside Baltimore on Merritt Blvd. I did get some positive feedback from corporate though. They did contact the dealer, and Thompson insisted they will do this programming for $50.00. I told corporate, Thompson told me $45.00 a few days prior!?!? :confuse: Corporate agreed from the "get go" to send me a reimbursement certificate to send back to them after I get this done, for reimbursement. She did verify that I can have this programming done at any dealership, after I emphasized that Thompson will not get any future business from me. I even told corporate I have a voucher for a free oil change from Thompson, which I will destroy! I stated if corporate has a "quality control office" with teeth, they should investigate . I further praised the Azera up and down, but badmouthed this dealer's sales and service areas.

    RE3691

    Does this survey factor in dealer service dept. and customer relations?
  • pahefner01pahefner01 Member Posts: 202
    It's a shame when a dealership treats owners this way. In St. Louis The Dean Team is such a dealer. They sold me a service plan on my 02 XG350L which I found was nothing more than oil changes. I got a refund on that and took my service business to Suntrup Hyundai from that point forward. They treated me well and I purchased my 06 Azera Limited with the Ultimate Package for approximately one thousand dollars less than the Costco dealer here. Funny thing was Suntrup didn't have the color I wanted. They wound up getting the color I wanted from the Costco dealer who had added paint sealant, pin stripes, door edge molding and wheel well moldings, all for no additional charge. I believe in telling people about good dealers and Suntrup is the place to go in St. Louis.
  • grayfoxgrayfox Member Posts: 166
    RE: 3693
    To show that there are two sides to the coin, I bought my Azera from Suntrup but they quoted $100 to program the Limp Home feature. Dean Team said $45. I took it to St. Charles Hyundai who programmed both the auto door lock feature as well as the Limp Home with no charge! They only asked that I return to them if I need service.
    I take my "Clunker" to Dean Team only because they are much closer to home than the other two. (Suntrup sold me the car from Dean Team.... Crazy World.)
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