Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

The second least popular Lambo you can buy today.

fintail

Jalpa must win that contest.

Mr_Shiftright

Indeed it does (for the old Lambos).

andys120

What do these have in common?

texases

Both are Bristol Beaufighters

thebean

@texases, if true, I’m mightily impressed, with the caveat that you knew this without consulting the interwebs.

texases

We had some discussion of Bristols several years ago. And I'm a WWII airplane nerd...

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

What do these have in common?

They both bombed?

texases

Fun fact on the airplane - that picture probably was taken around June 1944, the black and white "invasion stripes" on the wings and fuselage were put there so the Normandy invasion troops could quickly distinguish 'us' from 'them'.

lostwrench1

texases said:

We had some discussion of Bristols several years ago. And I'm a WWII airplane nerd...

Me too. I never miss an air show when WWII aircraft are flying. While on the ground, I've been in a B24 and B17. Many years ago I applied for and later received passage authorization to enter this country's historic aircraft Paul Garber storage facility. In the back of one of the hangars, with its fuselage divided in two and wings removed, was the unrestored Enola Gay. It has since been restored. I think the best museum in this country is the US Air Force Museum in Dayton. If anyone is planning to go there, it takes at least two days to see everything.

texases

Growing up in Cincinnati, the AF Museum was my FAVORITE 'road trip'.

Mr_Shiftright

That was a big problem back then--shooting down your own planes. I believe there were a number of tragic "accidents' of this sort during the invasion of Sicily.

I guess the Beaufighter was a very disappointing plane early on in the war until they converted it to a ground attack and anti-submarine mission. I think those rockets it is carrying were tank and train-busters.

andys120

texases said:

Fun fact on the airplane - that picture probably was taken around June 1944, the black and white "invasion stripes" on the wings and fuselage were put there so the Normandy invasion troops could quickly distinguish 'us' from 'them'.

That turned out to be unneccessary since not many of "them" showed up. Goering probably went "hunting" for a few months afterward. Hitler was furious at the Luftwaffe's inability to prevent bombing attacks or to attack the invaders but in Goering's defense that's tough to do without reliable supplies of fuel.

Mr_Shiftright

I think actual "air supremacy" was declared over the beachhead, not just the mere "air superiority". My Dad's older brother Karl was there, on a destroyer. I went to the 50th anniversary celebration of D-Day---what a party! I remember the German government at the time expressing annoyance that they weren't invited! Now, really Germany.....

andys120

My Dad saw part of the invasion fleet as they were headed to Normandy. His Reefer (refrigerated supply) ship was bound for an English port.

andys120

ab348

Jensen Interceptor, I think a MK 3. Wire wheels don't look right on those.

andys120

ab348 said:

Jensen Interceptor, I think a MK 3. Wire wheels don't look right on those.

Yup, MY 1973. I'll be those wires don't last long either

andys120

They're all lined up for you. See how far down the row you can get, starting from the blue '62 Pontiac on the right.

Pic was taken at Port ofMontreal, Que. so watch for those CDN variants>

bhill2

I'll just pick off the '58 Edsel on the lower right, since it's something of a unicorn.

stickguy

I can handle the pair of beetles on the far left!

and a 65 Pancho in front of the Edsel.

andys120

bhill2 said:

I'll just pick off the '58 Edsel on the lower right, since it's something of a unicorn.

Good eyebhill2! They must have been rare in Canada, since Ford already had three brands
there: Ford, Meteor and Mercury (can you find the Comet?).

lostwrench1

Note the strengthened bow and red paint of the Magga Dan used in its Arctic and Antarctic journeys.

ab348

Aside from the Bettle there are a few funny furrin cars in the second row. I see a Vauxhall Victor, a Ford Consul, possibly an Austin Cambridge and I believe a Vauxhall Cresta.

andys120

lostwrench1 said:

Note the strengthened bow and red paint of the Magga Dan used in its Arctic and Antarctic journeys.

The other ship is almost identical except for hull color.

There are a couple of smallish grey sedans in the second row. The darker one might be a Mercedes Fintail, the lighter one? Maybe a British Ford Cortina.

Anyone find my Comet yet, or know if they were sold as Mercs up north?

stickguy

what is the black with white top convertible by the water? I think it is an early Nova, but something looks slightly off. Other thought is it could be a Rambler.

ab348

andys120 said:

Anyone find my Comet yet, or know if they were sold as Mercs up north?

Over by the water, two up from the white over black Nova or Acadian convertible.

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

lostwrench1 said:

Note the strengthened bow and red paint of the Magga Dan used in its Arctic and Antarctic journeys.

The other ship is almost identical except for hull color.

There are a couple of smallish grey sedans in the second row. The darker one might be a Mercedes Fintail, the lighter one? Maybe a British Ford Cortina.

Anyone find my Comet yet, or know if they were sold as Mercs up north?

Yes I see the Comet. Back row, third from the right, next to a black...um....'60 Dodge maybe?

imidazol97

lostwrench1 said:

Note the strengthened bow and red paint of the Magga Dan used in its Arctic and Antarctic journeys.

Is there a significance to the red paint you mentioned?

imidazol97

That black convertible white top by the water reminds me of a Falcon. The side trim piece doesn't look familiar. Maybe that's a Canadian adaption.

Notice the similarity of the Falcon's A-pillar and vent windows size and placement to that of the Comet next to it. They're both parked facing the same direction and the parts look the same.

lostwrench1

That red makes the Magga Dan more easily spotted when in the waters of the Antarctic and Arctic.
There are some nice photos on line of the Magga Dan plowing its way through floating ice of the Arctics.

andys120

stickguy said:

what is the black with white top convertible by the water? I think it is an early Nova, but something looks slightly off. Other thought is it could be a Rambler.

You know I had the same thoughts, it looks like a Nova but not quite. I think it could be a '64ish Falcon (or whatever they called it up there.

ab348 said:

andys120 said:

Anyone find my Comet yet, or know if they were sold as Mercs up north?

Over by the water, two up from the white over black Nova or Acadian convertible.

That's it and it looks identical to the US version. The blue car it's next to is a '61 Chevy 4-post but what's the black car next to that? It has the tail of a '59 Ford but a really odd roofline??

fintail

I don't see any fintails, but I will confirm that two cars up the row from the Edsel, beside a 59 Pontiac wagon, is a Vauxhall PA Cresta, a very rare car these days with a cult behind it in Blighty.

ab348

I don't think the black convertible is a Ford. I make it as an Acadian, the GM Canada version of the Nova that was sold at Pontiac-Buick dealers here. Check out the trim piece on this:




The black car next to the '61 Chevy first read to me as a '59 Ford, but not with that roofline. I believe it is a '59 Olds.

andys120

ab348 said:

I don't think the black convertible is a Ford. I make it as an Acadian, the GM Canada version of the Nova that was sold at Pontiac-Buick dealers here. Check out the trim piece on this:




The black car next to the '61 Chevy first read to me as a '59 Ford, but not with that roofline. I believe it is a '59 Olds.

I think you're right on both of those.

sda

Look at the rust on the rear quarters of the 59 Pontiac wagon. The red 59 Pontiac sedan in the front row looks rough too. I am assuming this pic was taken in 66-67. Dad sold his 59 Catalina in 65 because the floors had rusted out. Rust proofing has come a long way since then!

stickguy

so my Nova guess was pretty good! Especially when could not see the grill.

andys120

texases

1960 Dodge Pioneer wagon?

stickguy

What a catfish grill.

Michaell

Down under?

texases

I missed the steering wheel - would that make it a "Phoenix"?

Mr_Shiftright

That's a car you'll see ....never.

fintail

Yep I think those are NZ plates.

ab348

Whenever I see that Dodge front end I'm reminded of this.

berri

That dog looks like he's ready to have a candid discussion with you

lostwrench1

He watched this year's Red Sox games.

omarman

ab348 said:

Whenever I see that Dodge front end I'm reminded of this.

Picture it...Queens, New York City October 25, 1986.

andys120

texases said:

1960 Dodge Pioneer wagon?

If it was made for the US market we'd call it a 1960 Dodge Dart Seneca but it was made in Australia for their market where it was merely a 1960 Dodge Dart..
You can just barely make out the steering wheel on the right.

texases

andys120 said:

1960 Dodge Pioneer wagon?

If it was made for the US market we'd call it a 1960 Dodge Dart Seneca but it was made in Australia for their market where it was merely a 1960 Dodge Dart.. You can just barely make out the steering wheel on the right.

According to wiki:
“In both 1958 [7]and 1959 Chrysler Australia released Plymouth Belvedere, Dodge Custom Royal and DeSoto Firesweep models which were imported from the US in CKD form and assembled at Chrysler’s Adelaidefacilities.[8]The Plymouth was fitted with a 318-cubic-inch V8 engine and the Dodge and de Soto models featured a 361-cubic-inch V8.[8]Assembly of the three models was discontinued in 1960 and they were replaced by a single model, the Dodge Phoenix,[9]which was produced by Chrysler Australia through to 1973.”

Confusingly, the wiki article on the Phoenix says it was only built as a 4 door sedan.