Mystery car pix

fintail

1986 with that front clip.

Those wagons weren't bad looking cars.

tjc78

In some sick demented way I can see that wagon in white, with limo tint all around a decent set of wheels (maybe something from a Z24 or Beretta) and a 3800 Supercharged transplant. Would be quite a sleeper (in a straight line anyway).

kyfdx

My girlfriend had a Celebrity sedan of that vintage, and her company car was a Century. Wouldn’t give you 2 cents for either one of them.

Wagons are cool, but those were crappy cars

fintail

Thinking of that, I remember a close friend's mom had a new 87 Celebrity wagon, her first new car. They had a lot of issues with it, and by 1990, she was fed up. Ditched it for a then-new style Accord, and never looked back, her last domestic brand car.

stickguy

Of that vintage, I would rather have a Malibu with a crate 350 and some suspension and brake upgrades.

PF_Flyer

fintail said:

Thinking of that, I remember a close friend's mom had a new 87 Celebrity wagon, her first new car. They had a lot of issues with it, and by 1990, she was fed up. Ditched it for a then-new style Accord, and never looked back, her last domestic brand car.

Made me think about "last domestic brand cars"... my Dad was a Chevy guy... until... he and my grandfather got identical 1965 Chevy Impalas, and both of them had the transmissions crap out within 6 months. That got us into a '66 Chrysler Newport, which was my first car when Dad handed it off to me. Dad then gave Chevy another try... with a '73 Vega...

He became a Honda guy

Michaell

I don't think my parents were loyal to any one brand ...

Dad had his Chevy pickup for 45+ years. Mom went through a variety of makes;

3 Toyotas
1 VW
1 Mercedes
1 Hyundai

stickguy

My last, and only purchased new, domestic was our 1996 Voyager. Had a couple used along the way (a ford and a mercury) but I think that was it.

Michaell

stickguy said:

My last, and only purchased new, domestic was our 1996 Voyager. Had a couple used along the way (a ford and a mercury) but I think that was it.

We've bought and leased a number of domestics. Wife was a Ford girl when I met her, so we had 4 of those, then we went through a Saturn phase, with 4 of those.

andys120

More wagons>

stickguy

63? Buick in front. Is the woody a Crosley?

ab348

Domestics certainly had issues the last couple of decades of the previous century when they tried to respond to Asian and European manufacturers. They have come a very long way since then. I had only 2 bad experiences with a domestic, our family's '74 Maverick LDO that I was the primary driver of in university, which was a horrible car of very poor quality, and my '09 Lacrosse which had a bad transmission that inept dealers were unable to fix properly, though the rest of the car was fine. My '77 LeMans, '79 Impala, '78 Delta 88, '79 Electra Park Avenue, and both Cadillacs were all very good (I'm leaving the Cutlass out given its age although it has been remarkably trouble-free). My '85 MR2 was a troublesome car with a number of surprising problems including a blown head gasket. My GTI had a couple of issues but nothing major, though I only kept it 4 years. My '11 Regal was a "domestic" car built in Russelheim, Germany that had issues with a creaky console and a few misfire codes, the latter of which were addressed though the console was deemed "they're all like that" which I blame on the dealer service department.

Up here I was continually amazed at the loyalty to Asian makes in the '70s and '80s because they were all terrible rust buckets in this environment. To their credit they eventually addressed that.

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ab348

Here's a mystery car for me. Never saw one of these ever before until today:



PS for @PF_Flyer : Tried posting this using Firefox on my office PC and it was the same old non-responsive pulldown problem. Switch to Chrome and it worked. I'm stumped as to what is happening. Cookies cleared, fresh login, etc. It did this yesterday for a while but later stopped and worked for a while.

imidazol97

I fired up Firefox. It was updated earlier this week. Same result as @ab348.
All pull downs are unresponsive. Chrome is working great!

berri

I mostly use Microsoft Edge/Bing, which has been pretty reliable for me. However, I have to use Google Chrome to consistently go into this website. So you just do what you gotta do I guess

andys120

stickguy said:

63? Buick in front. Is the woody a Crosley?

You're about right on the Buick, not sure of the year, couldn't find any that matched the shape of rear fender.

The "woody" isn't a Crosley, it's much bigger. Think "import".

imidazol97

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5740246/#Comment_5740246

I posted what I found back in the Forums Feedback and Suggestions to keep the info in one place so the hosts can give feedback to the people trying to track down the problems.

omarman

I was also surprised by the fanatic loyalty to Japanese imports from the 70's. In 1981 my friend was driving a 1976 Datsun B210 Honeybee which her dad bought new and gave to her when she graduated high school.

The first time out together she warned, "Do not make fun of my car!"

At 5 y/o it was very rusty and losing a lot of the factory paint - on its way to rusting out even more. The aluminum head of the tiny engine had cracked and been replaced. At just over 100K miles she called it the best car ever made.

It was cheap to buy and got very good mpg and was all finished by 1982.

berri

Wasn't that also a problem on the new Vega?

stickguy

Vega's came pre-rusted from the factory I think. 5 years to have no cowl left sounds about right. And they had problems with oil usage thanks to unlined aluminum cylinders.

kyfdx

Any 1976 car that made it 100K miles probably was a great car.

Although, I think I could have outrun a B210 on my Schwinn.

omarman

My cousin with a pizza shop in 1974 bought 2 new Chevy Vegas for pizza delivery vehicles. Not a good business model for a small mom and pop store. And he never explained why he picked Vega vehicles. He didn't like to talk about that experience at all.

His brother and wife decided to avoid the Vega and buy a new Pinto for better commuting MPG. Ordered from the dealer in white with 2.3 engine and 4 speed, I think. The car looked nice until you saw the driver's side. I think they were only 30 days from taking delivery and it had a small nasty looking rust spot on the driver door and a rusty streak spreading across the door from that spot.

I remember my cousin telling me that if they had waited 1 more year to order their Pinto, they could have ordered a 2.8 V6.

fintail

Looks likje a Morris Minor Traveler

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

63? Buick in front. Is the woody a Crosley?

You're about right on the Buick, not sure of the year, couldn't find any that matched the shape of rear fender.

The "woody" isn't a Crosley, it's much bigger. Think "import".

magnette

That "woody"was the same model as my first car, although a different shade of blue.

andys120

fintail said:

Looks likje a Morris Minor Traveler

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

63? Buick in front. Is the woody a Crosley?

You're about right on the Buick, not sure of the year, couldn't find any that matched the shape of rear fender.

The "woody" isn't a Crosley, it's much bigger. Think "import".

Yep, the woody Wagon was a Morris Minor Traveler ca. 1950s.
There was also a Mini-Minor Traveler>



The term "Traveler" refers to bands of gypsy-like bands who roam the British isles. I believe they aren't Romany Gypsies but IIRC are believed to be of Irish descent.

andys120

An astonishing variety of cars is visible in this parking lot from different eras and countries>

fintail

Oldie appears to be a 32 Ford Tudor, likely a V8, a desirable car even then.

In the background parked on the street, a 2 door Falcon and a Peugeot 404 in front of it.

berri

Some interesting stuff, but I'll take the 58 Chevy wagon in the back by the building and perhaps a 57 Pontiac convertible behind it (image is kind of blurred on my monitor).

omarman

Behind the convertible on the street a '62 Falcon and inside the parking lot a '62 Galaxie.

bhill2

I'll grab the '50/'51 Stude 4-door with the suicide rear doors. There's a teal colored car almost nose-to-nose with it that has a similar greenhouse but the back looks different.

sda

I easily recognize the 62 Galaxie sedan at top right. My first car that I bought for $100 in 77 was a 62 Galaxie 2dr sedan.

stickguy

a Morgan and an a PV Volvo

omarman

In the mid 70's my brothers each bought used 2nd gen Galaxie for "work" cars. Oldest brother had a '62 with a 390 and my second oldest brother had a '63 with a 289. Between the two cars I remember the small block '63 Galaxie seemed like a better daily driver - if only for the smaller gas leak.

But still I liked the 390 better so I bought a '68 Torino GT 390 in my senior year.

andys120

I think the newest car might be the '63 Chevy two-dr parked next to the white(?) Studebaker

stickguy said:

a Morgan and an a PV Volvo

Yup, the Mog is probably a Plus Four, next to it is a "Bugeye" Austin-Healey Sprite which like the Morgan has a tonneau cover on.

Toward the top of the pic is another British roadster, either a second gen Sprite or an MG Midget. Next to the old Volvo is the nose of a white Valiant or Lancer.

andys120

ab348

Pretty sure that's Bobby Unser behind the wheel of a '66 Olds Toronado winning the Pike's Peak hillclimb.

andys120

ab348 said:

Pretty sure that's Bobby Unser behind the wheel of a '66 Olds Toronado winning the Pike's Peak hillclimb.

Right on all counts!

andys120

Mystery Dashboard>



Tech note, this photo was posted via Firefox browser!!
First time in ages, thanks Tech Support.

thebean

C8 Corvette?

berri

It will be interesting to see the new Corvette pricing and then how well it sells.

Michaell

berri said:

It will be interesting to see the new Corvette pricing and then how well it sells.

Was quoted that the base price was "under $60,000"

berri

I don't think I'd want to get in and out of it at my age, but depending on options that price may make it an attractive buy.

Michaell

berri said:

I don't think I'd want to get in and out of it at my age, but depending on options that price may make it an attractive buy.

The collective interweb response was basically "Wow!"

andys120

Supposedly they'll start in the $60,000s, similarly to the C7s.

ab348

Mark Reuss said at the unveiling that it will start at just under $60K so a few thou more than the C7 which seems like a screaming deal assuming the equipment level is reasonable.

andys120 said:

Mystery Dashboard>



Tech note, this photo was posted via Firefox browser!!
First time in ages, thanks Tech Support.

Unbelievable, it works in Firefox on this PC! Now to check if it works on the office PC.

Regarding that photo, I can already see the first Edmunds review on the C8 - "too many confusing buttons on the center console divider make using the (whatever) cumbersome". At least if the recent hatchet job they did on the video comparo between the Honda Passport vs Chevy Blazer is any indication. That was just beyond ridiculous.

Michaell

ab348 said:

Mark Reuss said at the unveiling that it will start at just under $60K so a few thou more than the C7 which seems like a screaming deal assuming the equipment level is reasonable.

andys120 said:

Mystery Dashboard>



Tech note, this photo was posted via Firefox browser!!
First time in ages, thanks Tech Support.

Unbelievable, it works in Firefox on this PC! Now to check if it works on the office PC.

Regarding that photo, I can alredy see the first Edmunds review on the C8 - "too many confusing buttons on the center console divider make using the (whatever) cumbersome". At least if the recent hatchet job they did on the video comparo between the Honda Passport vs Chevy Blazer is any indication. That was just beyond ridiculous.

Trust me, a good majority of the comments I've seen have already blasted that design feature.

ab348

Michaell said:

Trust me, a good majority of the comments I've seen have already blasted that design feature.

All from those who have not sat in or driven it. Let's wait and see.

fintail

Might insult some people, but I think the new Vette is being aimed at a new/younger demographic who might be more flexible in terms of ingress/egress and tech both (and who don't want the jorts/white sneakers image).

texases

$60,000 base, pretty amazing. Of course no base models will be built for at least a year.

imidazol97

Ingress is no problem. I've tested out a few on the floor at my local Chevy store. Gravity, you know! LOL

It's the egress that's rough.