Mystery car pix

fintail

MBs of that era could have a very heavy gas pedal, almost like it made you want to work hard to make the car work hard. The fintail isn't so bad (probably softer with time), but I remember my W126 felt kind of heavy there too.

I think the red roadster is a Singer.

berri

Unusual two tone treatment on that 61 Buick (I think LeSabre). Also liked the 57 or 58 DeSoto.

andys120

fintail said:

MBs of that era could have a very heavy gas pedal, almost like it made you want to work hard to make the car work hard. The fintail isn't so bad (probably softer with time), but I remember my W126 felt kind of heavy there too.

I think the red roadster is a Singer.

Yup, a 1955 Singer SM. In 1956 Singer became part of the Rootes Group which eventually included Sunbeam, Hillman, Talbot and Humber as well as Singer.

ab348

berri said:

Unusual two tone treatment on that 61 Buick (I think LeSabre). Also liked the 57 or 58 DeSoto.

Apparently a relatively rare factory option.

http://www.oldcarbrochures.org/North America/Buick/1961_Buick/1961-Buick-Full-Size-Prestige-Brochure/slides/1961 Buick Full Size Prestige-02-03.html

Michaell

fintail said:

MBs of that era could have a very heavy gas pedal, almost like it made you want to work hard to make the car work hard. The fintail isn't so bad (probably softer with time), but I remember my W126 felt kind of heavy there too.

I think the red roadster is a Singer.

I remember the throttle on my folks' '72 220D being really stiff. No cruise, either. My dad allowed me to drive it part of the way on I-5 in central CA. My ankle hurt after 90 minutes.

bhill2

I heard that the first 'cruise control' was a brick on the accelerator of a VW bus when on the freeway. The thing was good for about 65 mph flat out, so it worked. Sounds like that would have worked on a 220D as well. It sounds like it would have to be a heavy brick, though.

fintail

Would have been easy, just keep it floored, you'd probably only average the speed limit back in the bleak 55 days

Michaell said:

I remember the throttle on my folks' '72 220D being really stiff. No cruise, either. My dad allowed me to drive it part of the way on I-5 in central CA. My ankle hurt after 90 minutes.

Michaell

fintail said:

Would have been easy, just keep it floored, you'd probably only average the speed limit back in the bleak 55 days

Michaell said:

I remember the throttle on my folks' '72 220D being really stiff. No cruise, either. My dad allowed me to drive it part of the way on I-5 in central CA. My ankle hurt after 90 minutes.

While it was slow to accelerate, once you got it up to speed, it was a steady as a rock.

Yeah, the days of the NMSL were bleak. I drove from CA to MI and back in 1986. The stretch from the eastern burbs of Los Angeles to about Missouri was interminable. Fortunately, I was driving an '85 Accord and it did have cruise.

andys120

andys120

The cars outside are easy, those on the showroom quite are easy but the inside cars are harder. I know two but I'm stuck on the red/white one in the middle. Anyone??

fintail

Possibly Triumph TR10 wagon or platform sibling?

Others appear to be a Borgward Isabella and MB Ponton.

bhill2

I'll throw my hat in with you on the TR10, Fin. The Borgward and the MB (surprise) you nailed cold.

andys120

Doh, I'd completely forgotten about the Triumph TR-10 Ten which was so rare it isn't even listed in Wikipedia, The shape betrays it's origins as The Standard Ten, a pretty popular car in postwar Britain.



For the record the sportsters out front are a Porsche 356B and an MG-A FHC (fixed-head-coupe). I'd guess photo was taken ca. 1957.

andys120

stickguy

Volvo. PV 444? Or that might have a special game. 1950ish.

andys120

stickguy said:

Volvo. PV 444? Or that might have a special game. 1950ish.

Yep, that's a lot of ground clearance for a pre-SUV wagon.

fintail

Duett

thebean

Wow, I like it! Don’t know what it is, but I think it’s cool.

magnette

Yes - That red and white little estate car was what we knew as a Standard Ten Companion, although sold with yourselves as a Triumph - no idea what it was known as locally although a TR10 would imply a more powerful machine I would have thought.

They also had a Standard van based on the same machine but higher.

andys120

Mystery Dash>

kyfdx

Z8?

andys120

kyfdx said:

Z8?

That didn't last long.

fintail

Not many cars of the past 70 years have used a banjo steering wheel.

kyfdx

I think I spotted a little drool, from the last time I looked at one..

andys120

kyfdx said:

I think I spotted a little drool, from the last time I looked at one..

I like it too but the Z8 was a bit of an oddball. It took styling cues from the beautiful BMW 507, a pure sports car and reiterated them on a luxury grand tourer. It shouldn't have worked but it did.

andys120

Born on the Fourth of July?

ab348

Had to launch Chrome to post this via the URL since the pulldowns would not respond in Firefox.

ab348

andys120 said:

Born on the Fourth of July?

1970 Rebel Machine with aftermarket wheels.

thebean

‘80 or so Dodge Royal Monaco? I would imagine not a lot of these survive.

fintail

Andre dream car, that Dodge.

berri

I always felt those looked better as 4 doors. The tiny rear windows throw off styling balance I think.

andys120

ab348 said:

andys120 said:

Born on the Fourth of July?

1970 Rebel Machine with aftermarket wheels.

Yup, the wheels are alloy ARE TorQ Thrusts, regular wheels were slotted stamped steel. "The Machine" was a hotter version of the AMC Rebel.

stickguy

I really wanted one of the S/C Ramblers.

tjc78

berri said:

I always felt those looked better as 4 doors. The tiny rear windows throw off styling balance I think.

I always felt the front end was such a knockoff of the 70s Continentals.

berri

What, designers swiping from others, surely you jest

imidazol97

tjc78 said:

berri said:

I always felt those looked better as 4 doors. The tiny rear windows throw off styling balance I think.

I always felt the front end was such a knockoff of the 70s Continentals.

Elegantly done knock offs, IMHO.

ab348

thebean said:

‘80 or so Dodge Royal Monaco? I would imagine not a lot of these survive.

1977 Dodge Royal Monaco Brougham, last of the Dodge dinosaurs from the old Chrysler Corporation to roam the earth. Those were the ”formal” versions of the Chrysler C-bodies. This one on BaT has only 26K miles from new.

lostwrench1

Lee Iacocca passed on today.

tjc78

One of the greats of the automobile industry for sure

If you can find a better car, buy it

andys120

One of the original rules of this topic specified "no concept cars". I'd like to make an exception for a car which lead to Lee Iacocca's greatest hit>


Who knows it?

imidazol97

The Mustang badge is a hint..

Ford Mustang I

lostwrench1

Side badge shows Mustang.
Pop Quiz - Where was the engine and how many cylinders?

kyfdx

andys120 said:

One of the original rules of this topic specified "no concept cars". I'd like to make an exception for a car which lead to Lee Iacocca's greatest hit>


Who knows it?

Is that the Zora Duntov Corvette?

andys120

One of the original rules of this topic specified "no concept cars". I'd like to make an exception for a car which led to Lee Iacocca's greatest hit>

lostwrench1 said:

Side badge shows Mustang.
Pop Quiz - Where was the engine and how many cylinders?

Yup, it's the 1962 Mustang 1 concept car, with a V4 motor amidships.

Did you know that the sports car nuts of the 1960s were keenly disappointed in the production Mustang and many dismissed it as rebodied Falcon?

We were disappointed because whenthe concept car came out there wasn't a single mid-engined car made for street use and the production 'Stang had nothing in common with the Concept 1 (Pony emblem and rear "air scoop" notwithstanding.

Iacocca's genius was figuring out that a conventional car could be made much more cheaply
and attract a broader audience. IIRC the 1965 Mustang was the most successful model entry in history, a record that has now out lived Lee Iaccocca himself.

I doubt it will ever be broken

tjc78

many dismissed it as rebodied Falcon?

Well, it was....

If you pull the steering wheel center off an early model (64.5) it still says Falcon Sprint under it.

andys120

tjc78 said:

many dismissed it as rebodied Falcon?

Well, it was....

If you pull the steering wheel center off an early model (64.5) it still says Falcon Sprint under it.

Technically there were no 1964+1/2 Mustangs, cars made during calendar 1964 were without exception sold and titled as 1965 Mustangs.

It's true that the first Gen Mustangs were mechanical twins of the Falcons. Engines and running gear were the same. By now everyone knows that but a Mustang will sell for many times more than an equivalent Falcon. It just goes to show what you can do with good styling
and clever marketing.

omarman

One more concept car from the same stable and era.

tmart

Says Ford on the side. Cougar?

omarman

Yep. 1963 Ford Cougar II which was built on Shelby Cobra chassis CSX2008 and powered by a 260 V-8.

andys120

Poncho Train