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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    Yep, a pair of red 190SLs, couldn't have been a common sight at any time.
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 832
    Chevy - 1958
    Chevy - 1962
    Rambler - 1964
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,411
    67 Shelby GT500. Sweet!
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    I note that Hemmings ( https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2020/04/29/bath-england-1982 ) has discovered the Sainsbury archive that @fintail mined a while back and is using it today as their find of the day. I also noted recently that some of the pics we have posted here over the past while were popping up there occasionally. I wonder if there is a lurker from Hemmings here?

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited April 2020
    At A&B motors, is the black two door a 58 Chevrolet Delray?
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    magnette said:

    At A&B motors, is the black two door a 58 Chevrolet Delray?

    I am having trouble ID'ing exactly what model it is. Certainly a '58 Chevy 2-door, but the side trim looks unlike any I can find.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,725
    edited April 2020
    The 58 is an Impala. In front of the rear wheel The vertical trim piece with 3 horizontal lines into it is an Impala. The BelAir doesn't have that vertical trim with the hash marks.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    Fair enough - I've never seen a Delray anyway
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,725
    Confusing.
    This is Delray, the lowest model pricewise. No hardtop offered. The side trim drops behind the door.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    The Sainsbury archive made the rounds of the internet, I found it on another forum. But we could have a lurker, surely more read here than post.

    Some OK cars:

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Really like that '60 Corvair, red with white top. The white one on the display stand looks high option. Roof rack. :smile:
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    I like the white over red Chevy or GMC pickup, but there are a pair of '59/'60 GM convertibles at the far end I would like a better look at.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,725
    1960 Ford Fairlane on bottom left.
    1956 Buick on bottom right

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Looks like a '60 Thunderbird convertible on the other side of the bus.
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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 832
    I'll grab the 1959 Ford, 2nd up on the right.
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 832
    edited April 2020
    ab348 said:

    I like the white over red Chevy or GMC pickup, but there are a pair of '59/'60 GM convertibles at the far end I would like a better look at.

    But the gasoline tank in that Chevy pickup is in the cab behind the seat.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    There's our 1960 Ford Left lower corner!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    edited April 2020
    Lostwrench3 said:

    ab348 said:

    I like the white over red Chevy or GMC pickup, but there are a pair of '59/'60 GM convertibles at the far end I would like a better look at.

    But the gasoline tank in that Chevy pickup is in the cab behind the seat.
    That's OK, I don't smoke. :smile:

    Probably better than being mounted outside of the frame rails like on the square-bodies.

    Going back to A&B Motors, I just noticed that the '62 Chevy is a 4-speed. I'll give that a spin.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,411
    edited April 2020
    Lostwrench3 said:

    I'll grab the 1959 Ford, 2nd up on the right.

    Then, I’ll take the one on the left, along with the 56 tu-tone blue and white Ford wagon.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited April 2020
    There's a green Plymouth Suburban - 59?
    Also two of the Chevrolet 59 station wagons - I think they had different names for each of these depending which car they corresponded to.
    The blue one would be a Brookwood, with simple chrome and the red & white one is the more opulent Parkwood. I don't think either would be the Kingswood, nor the Nomad

    I'm trying to get the various estate cars right as they are more distinctive than all the various car ranges but it's early days and there were rather a lot of them too.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    At the end of the right row, next to the Caddy (appears to be a 59) is a 54 Ford Crestline Victoria.
  • transamsd73transamsd73 Member Posts: 38
    A and B Motor, nice Rambler there. An American? Next to the Sunbeam, looks like a TR3 front end?
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,612
    transamsd73 said:

    A and B Motor, nice Rambler there. An American? Next to the Sunbeam, looks like a TR3 front end?

    The Rambler next to the Sunbeam is the middle line, simply called Rambler. If you painted the roof the same color as the body you would have the car I learned to drive on.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 832
    There were 3 models of the 1964 Rambler, the Ambassador, the American, and the Classic.
    Each had a different grille.
    Shown in the photo is a Classic.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    transamsd73 said:

    A and B Motor, nice Rambler there. An American? Next to the Sunbeam, looks like a TR3 front end?

    Yup, it's a TR-3A and the black one is a TR-3 as well.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    Let's pay a visit to Kingsport, TN., somewhere in the early '70s:

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Two '68 Impalas parked. Closest one is a fastback and further away next to a Cadillac looks like a custom coupe. On the street moving away is a '69 Impala sedan. Maybe sport sedan? Can't tell from this angle.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,748
    Baby blue Vega(?) ahead of the 66ish chevelle heading away. bright red 69 (guess) Belvedere (doubtful its a road runner) nose into the curb.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 832
    On the right, a '67 Ford.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    edited May 2020
    I think I see a full sized 68 Ford to the left of the big Ford wagon in the middle.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Parked on the left of the '68 Impala fastback looks like a '66 Caprice.

    Eyes squinting to make out a '66 Chevelle parked 2nd car left of the Ford wagon and a white roof of a VW Beetle left of the Chevelle.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    It's interesting to see how much more "styled" the '66 Chevy Kingswood Estate wagon is compared to the much boxier Ford wagon further down the row. Ford wins on utility though I imagine.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    ab348 said:

    It's interesting to see how much more "styled" the '66 Chevy Kingswood Estate wagon is compared to the much boxier Ford wagon further down the row. Ford wins on utility though I imagine.

    Can't see enough of that red Ford Wagon to tell if it's a Squire or a Ranch Wagon. MY '66-'68 I think.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    San Juan, PR:

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Fintail driver signaling left turn. No blinkers! :smile:
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,430
    ^^^ Hmmm, I think I'm seeing a pattern... :sunglasses:

    That pic almost looks like a scene from the movie "Bananas".

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,152
    Well here's a real beauty:

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,819
    Geez, I hope it looks better from a different angle...

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    The headlights say French, no?
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,748
    Oui, to Moi.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 832
    On the left a 1952 Chevy with some "illumination alterations".
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    Yellow light car must be a Panhard of some kind, on Dutch plates.

    Fintail with possible kaput signals in San Juan is a W111, from what I can tell, a 220S.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,152
    Yep, a Panhard. Any guesses as to year/model? It does look much better from the side:

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited May 2020
    The badge is Panhard & Levassor, and the exact model is a CD GT / Grande Tourisme - I have seen a picture of one in a book and it was shown I think in the 1963 Paris motor show but I think they made more than one.
    This example has Dutch plates.
    I've always like Panhards - they were as unorthodox as Citroen and very efficient - weighing next to nothing and with good performance from small engines.
    They virtually had a class to themselves in every Le Mans race, and their rally cars would win the Index of Performance at the Monte Carlo which was a handicapped affair, until the Minis started to win it for a while because they were doing the same thing in a completely different way
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,152
    That's it. I remember Panhard & Levassor from antique car shows my dad would take us to, they were founded in 1887.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    In Puerto Rico, Fiat Millecento to the right behind the parked VW
    The car parked through the fence beyond the Fiat looks to me like another 1960 or so Plymouth or maybe a Dodge - the fins look like they were those half developed ones that look odd - which is why I thought of Plymouth.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,623
    Those 60-61 midline Mopar sedans look a little off to me as well, kind of like an early 60s midsection with a late 50s front and rear end. Exner's weirdness perhaps, with square steering wheels, I'm surprised they didn't have square hubcaps.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,612
    Lostwrench3 said:

    There were 3 models of the 1964 Rambler, the Ambassador, the American, and the Classic.
    Each had a different grille.
    Shown in the photo is a Classic.

    Yup, you're right. I don't think of the Rambler Classic of being a thing until the next year when it represented a size distinct from the Ambassador. But AMC disagreed.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    The first Austin Allegros had square steering wheels - they weren't exactly square but resembled TV (tube) screens with rounded edges.
    I drove one a couple of times and I thought they had square wheels too as it was so lumpy on the road but I think the suspension needs pumping up on that car as the person who owned it never got it serviced and the Hydrolastic suspension on BMC / BL cars need attention every couple of years to re-pressurise it
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