Mystery car pix

andys120

I'll guess DB5?

Uh...no.

magnette

Ferrari 250 Europa with Pinin Farina coachwork - late 1953

andys120

Nooo, I was counting on you to get it right!

The part about PF coachwork and 1953 is correct but it's not a 250 Europa but a 212 Inter

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andys120

don't jump to conclusions.

stickguy

I obviously would guess Jag, and it does have the hood ornament, so that seems to make sense. It's not some kind of Daimler, is it?

I'm not the Jag guy. Is this the Mark II model?

I do know it is from NJ at least!

user777

'61 Jag Mark II?

Kirstie_H

Here's a fun one:

A freelance reporter is interested in talking with people who have named their cars. Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, April 12, 2006 containing your daytime contact information and the make, model and name of your vehicle.

stickguy

I have named some, but unluss the reporter is writing for Penthouse, I doubt they can print the names!

ubbermotor

I used to always name my cars, but I haven't named the last few.

andys120

Jaguar Mk II is a pretty good guess because that's essentially what it is but it's a 1967 model and that year it was renamed the Jaguar 340.

andys120

ubbermotor

Clearly a 47-48 Buick. Possibly a Roadmaster, but I'm going to go with '47 Super.

andys120

You know your Buicks, Ubber. It's a '47 Super.

andys120

fintail

It may look like a 41 Packard, but it's a Russian ZIS from right after the war. The high ranking old commie tyrants liked Packards, apparantly. The later ZIL also copied Packard cues.

lemko

...actually IS a 1941 Packard. I thought Packard sold it's 1941 dies to the USSR. Packard had the all-new Clipper design in 1942.

fintail

I read that was an urban legend, that someone actually measured both cars, and found them to be different. I've never seen a ZIS in the flesh though, so I don't know.

I've heard the body dies story too, and it is very believable IMO.

The ca. 1957+ ZIL was also a ringer for the 55-56 Packard, but I am sure no dies were given to the commies at that time.

andys120

It may look like a 41 Packard, but it's a Russian ZIS from right after the war. The high ranking old commie tyrants liked Packards, apparently. The later ZIL also copied Packard cues.

Perhaps the Commie tryants were following the Boss's lead, Uncle Joe Stalin favored armored ZiS Limos, like the ZiS 115 pictured (ca 1945-
58). ZiS is an acronym for the Russian words for "Stalin Automobile Factory".

There's a funny scene in the movie One-Two-Three (1962) where American Jimmie Cagney is careening thru East Berlin with three Russians in a jalopy. One of the Ruskis says "Don't worry, is exact copy of 1937 Nash". Substitute "Packard" and you have the ZiS 110-115 series.

The Reds were great copiers, their first post war strategic bomber, the Tupelov TU-4, was a slightly altered rip-off of the Boeing B-29

andys120

fintail

Funny thing about that ZIS/Nash comparison - the first ZIS was actually some kind of derivative of a ca. 36-37 Nash, I dunno if it was the same dies or not.

There was also the GAZ-A and GAZ-M1, both of which were Ford designs with slightly different trim - the "A" being a Model A and the "M1" being a 33-34 model.

And in postwar cars, the first "ZIM" was very derivative of a c. 48-49 Caddy. The old commies might have claimed to not like America, but they reveled in American style.

fintail

Imperial from what, 62-63?

I am sure andre can nail the exact model/engine/color/year etc.

kyfdx

I don't know.. that car is pretty darn ugly.. That puts it around '59-'60, I think...

Now, if it made you puke... it would be a '58.. All '58s seem to do that...(I'm not just talking about Chryslers)

andys120

Yep, '62 Crown Imperial.

fintail

The earlier ones had big fins...the 62-63 cars had the little pods. And then in 1964 it all became modern and clean (relatively).

kyfdx

..I guess ugly hangs around a little longer on a Chrysler... :surprise:

fintail

Exner made quite a mark

andys120

kyfdx

I saw a Suzuki X90 today..

gogogodzilla

Is that some sort of Daihatsu?

navigator89

Looks pretty good, I say either a Peuegeot or Citroen.

user777

hmmm soft-top:

ateixeira

There's one in my garage, I guess some diplomat brought it over. I think it's a 202cc, some numeric name like that. Very unique looking car. I'm sure it gets plenty of attention.

-juice

fintail

Is that a 206CC? It looks smaller than what I've seen.

CAR calls the Lexus SC something like a 206CC for 40K (pounds) more.

ateixeira

Sounds right, I dunno.

They are very small. My Miata is longer I believe.

-juice

andys120

Is that a 206CC? It looks smaller than what I've seen.

Small retractable tin-top cars are quite the rage in Europe and the Pueg 206CC is one of the biggest sellers but the car I showed is the similar but smaller Mitsubishi CZC

Here it is with the top down>>


Here's the Puegeot 206CC>>


Similar cars are offered by Renault, Opel and probably some others.

andys120

ateixeira

Esprit turbo, probably late 90s?

-juice

magnette

For our market the 340, and the 240, which replaced the 2.4 MkII, had thinner bumpers than the old 3.4/2.4 range, but perhaps U.S. spec. continued with the double bumper like on this one...
I think they also cheapened the interior, because before the change, there was leather upholstery, but afterwards, the leather was an option, and the basic car got "Ambla" which was a type of plastic fake leather which had previously only been available on cheaper fleet versions of the Jag - ie the police specials...
They also changed the equivalent Daimler V8, from the 2.5 litre, to the 250V8.

magnette

Ah, well, can't win them all....

andys120

Esprit turbo, probably late 90s?

Not exactly, '91 Esprit, no turbo.

andys120

kyfdx

I thought all of the Esprits were 4-cylinder turbos?

andys120

thought all of the Esprits were 4-cylinder turbos?

It might be more correct to say that all Esprits were Turbos including the '91 I posted (my bad!). However only some of the 4-bangers were actually branded as Esprit Turbos according to this.
(Hence my confusion :confuse: )

The later V8 models had twin-turbos and LOTS of power.

fintail

Some kind of early Datsun from like 1958

imidazol97

Is that car really as short as it looks with the model in the door?

rockylee

I was wondering the same thing ? :surprise:

Rocky

andys120

Some kind of early Datsun from like 1958

Yep, it's a '59 Datsun 310 Bluebird.

andys120

Extra points if you can ID the black car in the background.

fintail

All I know about the red car is that it is some kind of highline Rambler/AMC...but in the back I spot a 1960 Caddy Series 62 flat top, and that little piece of rear quarter panel to the right appears to be a Porsche 944 with late model wheels.

andys120

Good eye Fintail! The red convertible is a 1965 Rambler 990/327. I didn't even notice the little hunk of 944 but you're correct on that, the late model wheels it's wearing and the 1960 Caddy, it's a Sedan DeVille but who's nitpicking?

Here's another look at the Porsche and the Cadillac.