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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    @ab348 - thanks - I hadn't thought of the Lark convertible...

    @andys120 - that one is a Studebaker Hawk - 1959?

    I'm impressed you can nail the MY on a Stude. It's a 1959 Silver Hawk.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    Not much mystery here, but who wants to work hard on a Sunday? A cool period pic from 1962. I believe it may be from Alison at Vintage Los Angeles but I'm not 100% certain.


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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    Of course the 60 Ford wagon. The picture kinda reminds me of 77 Sunset Strip, the TV show. Where’s Kookie?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,227
    ab348 said:

    Not much mystery here, but who wants to work hard on a Sunday? A cool period pic from 1962. I believe it may be from Alison at Vintage Los Angeles but I'm not 100% certain.

    Yeah, she posted that on her FB page last week.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Is the '60 Ford a Ranch Wagon or were those only tw-doors. Was it a Squire if a 4door w no faux wood? I'm so confused. :(

    White over blue Chevy is a '57.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    The Ranch Wagon has two doors. Four would be a Country Sedan. The Country Squire had the faux wood trim and four doors.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    edited February 2021
    There was a 4 door Ranch Wagon, lowline car with no rear quarter rocker trim:

    image
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    tmart said:

    The Ranch Wagon has two doors. Four would be a Country Sedan. The Country Squire had the faux wood trim and four doors.

    A Ford station wagon w only 2 doors was called a Country Sedan.?
    No wonder I'm confused! :o

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    edited March 2021
    The search function here seems to be not working as it used to, but the results returned didn't indicate this one had been posted previously. I could have sworn we've seen it before but since I can't find any reference to it I'll give it a try. Southdale Center, Edina, Minn, 1964. Expands well.





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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,463
    amazing in that era how a couple of model years difference looks like a whole generation (even modern vs old) different. 58/59 vs 61/62 was some major styling changes (even if a lot of the underneath was probably carry over).

    Nice small Rambler center/right, a couple down for a '58 Chevy.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    Nope, no 2 door Country Sedan.
    andys120 said:



    A Ford station wagon w only 2 doors was called a Country Sedan.?
    No wonder I'm confused! :o

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    Oldie in the group, aside from maybe a pickup in the background, is the torpedo body sedan in the foreground center left, appears to be a 46-48 Pontiac. Just "above" it I see a then-new Vista Cruiser. Big Imperial coupe background left next to the "2A" sign. I also see a 64 Galaxie and 64 Impala in the background. No fintails, no clearly visible 60 Fords. Import job far left foreground row looks like a Fiat 1100.
    ab348 said:

    The search function here seems to be not working as it used to, but the results returned didn't indicate this one had been posted previously. I could have sworn we've seen it before but since I can't find any reference to it I'll give it a try. Southdale Center, Edina, Minn, 1964. Expands well.


  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    fintail said:

    no clearly visible 60 Fords.

    I didn't think so either at first and even second glance. But then... ;)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    A little towards left lower center, kind of behind a squarebird, I see the rear bubble window of a Fairlane, but nothing to tell if it is a 60 or 61.
    ab348 said:


    I didn't think so either at first and even second glance. But then... ;)

  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    58 Ford, 58/59 Thunderbird, couple of 59 Ford, 55/56 Ford, a 61/63 Thunderbird I think.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    tmart said:

    What do you mean by you fixed it and this is a moderated forum? Nothing was offensive.

    Moderator, are you going to answer this question??
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,951
    tmart said:

    tmart said:

    What do you mean by you fixed it and this is a moderated forum? Nothing was offensive.

    Moderator, are you going to answer this question??
    Nope... thanks, though.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Even before looking for our friend Sixty Ford I like that first glance of seeing so many cars and so few trucks parked at a shopping center. And if it were a color pic, wow! Vintage Detroit paint chart. :smile:
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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    Would you believe that parking lot is one of a horse racing track in Mexico?
    The horses don't run there anymore, but the greyhounds do.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    edited March 2021

    Would you believe that parking lot is one of a horse racing track in Mexico?
    The horses don't run there anymore, but the greyhounds do.

    It’s odd. I found 2 copies of that pic I had saved at different times. One was very specific in its name/location as I posted above. The other was called Tijuana1964 which I figured was wrong. I don’t know which is correct. But based on that tree I see up near the top, you may be right.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,599
    fintail said:

    There was a 4 door Ranch Wagon, lowline car with no rear quarter rocker trim:

    image

    That one looks like it had the tinted glass option but not the back up lights. Having had a car without back up lights, living in the country where it is pitch black at night, it is truly harrowing to backup without any significant light.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    ab348 said:

    Would you believe that parking lot is one of a horse racing track in Mexico?
    The horses don't run there anymore, but the greyhounds do.

    It’s odd. I found 2 copies of that pic I had saved at different times. One was very specific in its name/location as I posted above. The other was called Tijuana1964 which I figured was wrong. I don’t know which is correct. But based on that tree I see up near the top, you may be right.
    Agua Caliente Racetrack in Tijuana, Mexico.
    It had a tremendous patronage by residents of California.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702

    ab348 said:

    Would you believe that parking lot is one of a horse racing track in Mexico?
    The horses don't run there anymore, but the greyhounds do.

    It’s odd. I found 2 copies of that pic I had saved at different times. One was very specific in its name/location as I posted above. The other was called Tijuana1964 which I figured was wrong. I don’t know which is correct. But based on that tree I see up near the top, you may be right.
    Agua Caliente Racetrack in Tijuana, Mexico.
    It had a tremendous patronage by residents of California.
    Wow good catch! That explains "SECC" parking lot signage. :smile:
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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    edited March 2021
    Refinished in factory colors. Never heard of this version myself but there's something about it I like. Hint: 70's B)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    I bet something like that existed. My dad's car was a Country Sedan, 352 (largest engine option), automatic, power steering or brakes (not both, and I forget which it had, but I know it was just one), radio, but instead of full wheel covers usually seen on a Country Sedan, it had dog dish caps with thick trim rings that almost resembled a larger wheel cover, and no reverse lights. Oh yeah, and not sure if electric wipers were an option, it had vacuum wipers.
    sda said:


    That one looks like it had the tinted glass option but not the back up lights. Having had a car without back up lights, living in the country where it is pitch black at night, it is truly harrowing to backup without any significant light.

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited March 2021
    Sorry - my posted BMW picture was two days ago and I haven't been online in-between so it has fallen back

    It was actually a BMW 1804 or 2004 SA from 1974

    This was a South Africa assembled model based on a Glas 1700 (Glas had by then been taken over by BMW for a few years) and was necessaries the local market required 4-door cars and the 2002 was deemed unsuitable as too small or something.

    The Glas 1700 was offered with BMW badges to fill the gap but didn't appeal and the forthcoming 5 series was not ready for overseas assembly so they developed this interim model as a stop gap for one year only until the 5 series could be sold there in 1975 - by then they were selling the latter in RHD in Britain too.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited March 2021
    At Tijuana
    I guess the oldest is the GM streamlined sedan in the mid foreground which I think is a Pontiac and the ornament on the hood side would suggest 1948
    If you go up from that then above the vista wagon is a Rambler American - that takes you to a truck with a frame over the load bed and two rows above that...




    is a Hudson - a fairly late one I think.
    and just above my excerpt is a Corvette - its tail is over that dark Chevy parked in front of the Hudson

    I would have expected some VWs at this date though
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    magnette said:

    Sorry - my posted BMW picture was two days ago and I haven't been online in-between so it has fallen back

    It was actually a BMW 1804 or 2004 SA from 1974

    This was a South Africa assembled model based on a Glas 1700 (Glas had by then been taken over by BMW for a few years) and was necessaries the local market required 4-door cars and the 2002 was deemed unsuitable as too small or something.

    The Glas 1700 was offered with BMW badges to fill the gap but didn't appeal and the forthcoming 5 series was not ready for overseas assembly so they developed this interim model as a stop gap for one year only until the 5 series could be sold there in 1975 - by then they were selling the latter in RHD in Britain too.

    For a Glas, the styling sure looks like it was done by BMW, right down to the Hofmeister kink.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    That's right, I'm looking for a dragon, have you seen one?

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited March 2021
    NSU Sport Prinz - I always thought they were great little cars although not many around now I suppose

    Currently our government shows 38 NSU Prinz cars of whatever model licenced and about 20 more with suspended licence - ie they have a number plate but aren't taxed for the road so laid up

    But that would include all the other NSU saloons too
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233


    @ab348

    "For a Glas, the styling sure looks like it was done by BMW, right down to the Hofmeister kink"

    .

    This is the Glas 1700 complete with kink




  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    I'm still looking at Tijuana and there is a Fiat Millecento or 1200 maybe - its in the lower left corner just above the tail of a 59 Chevy
    And I think the top left corner in the far distance is a VW - its tail is intercepted by the lamppost which has the 2A sign on it
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    edited March 2021
    A truly miserable, very cold, very windy day yesterday sent my mind to thought of warmer climes. What better place than L.A. in 1966, thanks to the Ruscha pics at the Getty Museum?

    We have seen the main parking lot out front of the Sunset Blvd. location of the Mayfair Market before, but this is the side lot. Pictures should blow up well.



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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited March 2021
    On the first one there is a Rambler wagon in the far distance - about 1957 I think
    Approaching us there is another - this time an American - circa 1962

    Picture two has a Studebaker Hawk above that woody at the left and a Volvo PV next to the panel van

    And that Chevrolet 4-door sedan would be a 57 Bel Air and I think its for sale although probably gone by now..
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    60 Starliner at right next to some phone booths, and a cool maybe 63 Mercury Colony Park to the right of it.

    At left, left of the Volvo PV (544 likely) is a Corvair van, and to the left of that is a 46-48 Ford woody.

    Just "behind" the 57 Chevy sedan looks like a 61 Chevy, possibly a convertible.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    59 Ford entering from the right.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    BaT auction 1973 Volkswagen Bus Wild Westerner edition. Sold For $25,250 On 3/3/21. Rust and corrosion noted on doors, floors, bumpers, mirrors and underbody. Still some posters thought it would have sold for more.



    Window sticker from a different vehicle shown below.


    Apparently the Wild Westerner was a $75 appearance group option for 1973 which I've never heard of. But I can recall some things back then which may have inspired it.


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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited March 2021


    This is Corpus Cristi TX

    Apart from our regular 60 Ford is that 2-door a Chevrolet Delray ?

    Picture should expand
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    Excellent picture, you beat me to that one.

    The trim on the 2-door '58 Chevy matches that of the Delray, which was the bottom of the line that year, so I'd say you're correct.

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    1953 Chevy.
    Ok, Pop Quiz. - The 1953 Chevrolets were the first to have a (X) since some of the 1935 Chevrolets.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    Windshield visor?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    Looks like a 59 Ford wagon peeking behind the 2 58 Chevys.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,327
    An OK Ruscha pic this morning with one of my favorite '60s cars showing prominently.


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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    I like the front runners in that OK Chevrolet lot. The 2 bookends, '65 and '62 Impalas, were my favorites.
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    @Lostwrench3 - lockable fuel cap?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited March 2021
    @ab348 - I just found that picture by accident and initially thought I would post it because it had a 60 Ford, but it was only when I was doing it that I thought of the Delray - I have never seen one of those of course, and they weren't exactly the best selling model so they must have been fairly rare and as they were the lowest level of trim I suppose they wouldn't have been preserved much either - or if they survived then they would have been customised perhaps.....
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Is this a 66 Chrysler 300 coupe?
    The other car in the foreground is a 67(?) Ford
    I think I see a 60 Ford behind the Karmen Ghia
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Roof line looks like it could be '65 or '66 but that trim looks unfamiliar. t doesn't look like a "300" emblem on the rear fender. So maybe Chrysler something-Canadian?
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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    '65 Chrysler Newport.
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    tmart said:

    Windshield visor?

    Keep thinking windshield.
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