Mystery car pix

andys120

You're right of course. That syling while less moderrn is a bunch more elegant than the Ponton IMO.

fintail

It was the last prewar style sedan

In the cases of the ponton and the fintail, their styling was obsolete about 12 months after introduction.

andys120

In the cases of the ponton and the fintail, their styling was obsolete about 12 months after introduction.

That used to be the charm of German styling, it was always a wave or two behind the
avante garde. Audi is the only one ever to be really successful at putting up to date styling on German iron.

andys120

jaserb

While Mazda was copying the original Elan so successfully with the Miata, Lotus came out with this awkward looking FWD thing and slapped the Elan name on it.

-Jason

andys120

Correct Jason. The Isuzu powered Elan is sometimes known as the M-00. I've heard that it wasn't a very good Lotus, being fwd and all but it was a pretty decent car if you set aside expectations of Lotus-like cornering.

As I remarked earlier the Miata may have looked Elan-like but didn't really have the
"elan" of the ultralight, backbone chassis Lotus forebear. It was more of an up-to-date MG than a noveau Lotus.

mrwhipple311

Andy -- nice guess.
I'm kind of surprised no one got this one.
The car is a Swallow Doretti which, I believe, has some relationship to Triumph. Supposedly there were about 270 of these built in the mid 50's and the house owner owns 8 of them. I have never seen one other than these!

andys120

there were 250 Swallow Dorettis built and you're surprised no one got it :mad: Anyway here's another picture I found of one.



Got any more like that up your sleeve Mrwhipple?

andys120

xkss

I'll give you some hints...

It has an aluminum chassis.

It is hand-built.

It is raced by the factory in the American Le Mans Series.

stickguy

A '57 Trianok? OK, I was just trying to read the license plate.

stickguy

A Panoz. Esperante?

mrwhipple311

No offense meant, just saying you guys are good... nothing seems to get by.

boomchek

b&w picture: a Hindustan?
the blue roadster : definetely a Panoz Esperante

andys120

I'll go with the Panoz, the b&w is not a Hindustan.

fintail

Looks to be a French Ford, which became Simca

andys120

Looks to be a French Ford, which became Simca

It's a '57 Simca Vedette and, yeah the styling is obviously from the French Ford era which ended in '54. Many later Simcas were Fiat-based.

andys120

seminole_kev

interesting as I don't remember any stock Cadillacs having a hidden front quite like that......then again, I'm not a big Caddy fan either.

andys120

Need a better picture?

michaellno

Late 60's vintage, I believe. IIRC, they shared a platform with the Olds Toronado; both were FWD.

andys120

That's right, the '67 Eldo was the first fwd Caddy and one of the handsomest Cadillacs of the era, a lot better looking than the Toronado in my book.

andys120

stickguy

now this is a tough one. Even Bob Holland might have to think twice.

Note, I'm assuming that everyone else sees a "photo not available" box here.

fintail

I see the pics. I am assuming the license plates give it away

kyfdx

I can see them also.. It is an Alfa.. other than that, you got me..

andys120

I see the pics. I am assuming the license plates give it away

Not exactly, Fintail. Every Alfa coupe since the 50s has carried the "Sprint" label but these are Alfa-Romeo _________Sprints, (fill in the blank).

fintail

Veloce?

subearu

yep, not able to see the photo either. but, if I take the image properties url http://www.nordclick.de/images/meldungen/piohjpo_7681620.onlineBild.jpg and paste it into another browser window, I can see a red and grey pair of alfa looking grills :P

-Brian

andys120

Well it beats me why some of you aren't seeing the picture but here's another picture
of the Alfasud Sprint

Which was the coupe version of the fwd Alfasud, here's the sedan version=>



None of the Alfasuds were imported to the US.

andys120

subearu

the image will only appear if I open the url for the image in another window. They probably don't handle hot-linking images, my guess.

I can clearly tell it's not a Pontiac Grand Prix or a a Chevy Sprint

Still looks like an Alfa offspring of some sort from the front.

Post #806 appears fine, can see the little black 'vertible.

-Brian

fintail

Jensen Healey

stickguy

Fin beat me out. I knew it was a JH. I remember reading the road tests when they came out. For some reason, I always liked them, although I can't honestly say I ever saw one in person.

kyfdx

I think some of you more technically proficient posters are using another browser besides IE... Because, I can see all of the pictures..

regards,
kyfdx
(techno-cro-magnon)

andys120

I can see 'em fine using either IE or Firefox. BTW It was a Jensen-Healey, a '74.

jaserb

This would have been early '90s. I distinctly remember two things: the Lotus twin cam engine, and more rust than I have EVER seen on a supposedly "drivable" car. If you accidentally kicked the kick panel from inside the car your foot would have gone all the way through the front fender.

-Jason

edit: now that I think of it I've seen some running Toyota pickups that were rolling piles of rust held together with duct tape. The JH was pretty bad, though. Even young and stupid as I was I knew that much rust was bad news.

andys120

rsholland

'50s era DKW.

Bob

andys120

Close enough, I guess. It's a '58 DKW 1000 to be more exact..

Try your hand at this?

fintail

Toyota Corona c.1972. I remember when those things were still on the road.

andys120

subearu

a blue Audi RS2 Avant wagon.

-Brian

andys120

blue Audi RS2 Avant wagon.

Prezactly, the RS2 Avant was designed and built by Porsche so it preceded the Cayenne as Porsche's first wagon, even if it was marketed by Audi, It featured twin-turbos and 400 hp making it one of the fastest cars of the early 90s.

subearu

It featured twin-turbos and 400 hp

That was one of the reasons I remembered it was an RS2. I did not know the true designer of it though (thank's for that useful trivia tidbit )

-Brian

andys120

rsholland

1960 Edsel Villager wagon

http://www.edsel.com/pages/edsel60.htm

Bob

gagrice

I get about half your PIX the rest I paste the link into the browser. Is that an Olds?

PS
This is a fun thread to follow...

When I refresh the screen the Pix come through. Maybe a glitch somewhere

gagrice

I like that RS2. Here is a link to more pictures of it.

http://www.supercars.de/?show=single_screen&do=car&modell_id=1004&modell=RS2&marken_id=9&m- arkenname=Audi&copy=2&url=Li9kYXRhL19jYm9hLzkvMTAwNC80ODAvOTEwMDQ1LmpwZw==

andys120

Feel free to join the fun Gagrice.