Mystery car pix

imidazol97

>lighter that would burst into flame at the flick of a finger.

and the flame wasn't in just the usual place at the top of the lighter...

Mr_Shiftright

Well I think it was due more to the fact that the Sherman used a gas engine and the German and Russian tanks had diesel--a fuel much less prone to ignition from gunfire. Same with power boats, you know---nobody wants a gas engine power boat anymore.

andys120

kyfdx

early-mid '90s.. Turbo Supra

bumpy

Ah, the Mark IV Supra. It and the GT-R are still the legends among legends of Japanese supercars.

stevedebi

"Well I think it was due more to the fact that the Sherman used a gas engine and the German and Russian tanks had diesel--a fuel much less prone to ignition from gunfire."

Actually, for most of the war the Panzer tanks were all gasoline, 23L displacement comes to mind. But they had WAY more armor, especially in the front.

Mr_Shiftright

Oh you're right...they used Maybach engines, 12 cylinder. I guess it was the Russian tanks that were diesel.

I read somewhere recently that the Israelis captured a German panzer still being used by Syria in the war of 1967!

andys120

early-mid '90s.. Turbo Supra

Yup, Supra Twin Turbo.

andys120

Here's a still from Tommy Boy with cars from different decades>

boomchek

The wagon on the far leftis a Camryt wagon late 80s. Actually same as the one on Craigslist in the Project Cars forum right now.

The one over from the Camry is a Ford Tempo mid 80s vintage.

Don't know the middle convertible car.

The one to the right of the convertible is a Chevrolet Chevette.

The very left is a second gen Jetta, most likely 86-90.

fintail

Yep, the Camry is a ca. 1988-89 (most wagons seem to be those years), the Tempo is an 86-87. the convertible is a 67 Plymouth GTX, then a Chevette from the early 80s, then the Jetta, which I believe came to NA in 85 (I can't see if it has a 3rd rear light)

andre1969

have their ammunition stored in a vulnerable location, which made them more succeptible to exploding if a shell penetrated their armor?

Mr_Shiftright

I think once a shell penetrated the armor, that was trouble enough. This is why I was a proud member of the 352nd Fighting Typewriters in the army....I did drive a tank once though but of course it was a lot more modern than a Sherman. It's fun, I highly recommend getting one.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

Ohhhh...the pieces of junk Fiat marketed under the Lancia name! I forget what they were called though.....a tragic end to a once distinguished marque...

fintail

Lancia Scorpion, I think

Mr_Shiftright

The Lancis Stratos was an awesome car...anybody find a photo of one?

seminole_kev

Oh I loveeeee the Stratos. Especially love the look when it is all opened up. One hell of a car. I'll see if I can't find a few decent pics.

seminole_kev

Mr_Shiftright

This car won a lot of races and is worth a bundle of money these days.

andys120

Yup, it's the Lancia Beta Scorpion, sold in other markets as the Lancia Beta Monte Carlo.

The Scorpion/MC was essentially a coupe version of the X 1/9
with the DOHC Fiat 124 Sport motor (1800 or 2000 cc). Fiat had orinally planned to sell it under that brand.

Mr_Shiftright

Basically that car ruined Lancia's reputation in America forever....thank heavens they didn't call it an Alfa Romeo! Of course, we got the Milano to ruin Alfa's reputation in America.

It's all so sad...excuse me if I get emotional here....sob...

ateixeira

Yep, in 1986 I remember Acura took #1 in JD Powers while the Milano was dead last.

The worst part was the complexity to fix things, the brakes used air craft parts that were expensive.

-juice

kyfdx

What was the Lancia hatchback from the mid-late '70s.. I always thought that was the Beta? It was an Accord/Scirocco sized car..

andys120

What was the Lancia hatchback from the mid-late '70s.. I always thought that was the Beta?

You're thinking of the Lancia Beta HPE>


The FWD Lancia Betas were sold as Hatchback (HPE), coupe and Spider (a targa-style set-up). I don't know why Lancia's marketing guys used the same name for the rear-engined, RWD Scorpion/Monte Carlo. :confuse:

The shoulda called it the Lancia Chi.

kyfdx

The targa was called the Zagato, I believe...

Mr_Shiftright

Ow...dragging the Zagato name into the mud as well...another hot poker in the eye....OW!!!

andys120

Ow...dragging the Zagato name into the mud as well...another hot poker in the eye....OW!!!

It's not as if Zagato couldn't do that by themselves. :sick:>

lokki

:sick: Ugly? You want UGLY? We don't need no stinkin' help
Zagato Volpe Concept

ateixeira

It is so, so hard to make a minicar not look dorky, though. Cut 'em some slack.

-juice

andre1969

Yeah, the problem with minicars is that you can either have them look well-proportioned, or you can make them usable. Usually, you can't have both:

Mr_Shiftright

Oh, a 1958 Smart Car?

andys120

mark156

Cool pic Andre! It's amazing how accurate that they made those toy cars look like the real thing! If fact, I don't think I've ever seen one like that.

Also, I like the International Harvester truck! A 1957??

Mark156

gsemike

That's some sort of Mazda that we don't get here. Is it a Mazda1?

lokki

I love that mini - Desoto!

I want one.... but you and ateixeira are right - I'd rather be driving that Zagato concept car.

andys120

Mazda1?

Nope, Mazda2! The US is supposed to get the next gen Mazda2 in 2008, it will be shown @ Geneva next month.

lokki

andre1969

Good Lord, that thing looks like the illegitimate spawn of a Packard, Checker, and Lincoln!

As for the decade, normally I'd guess 50's, around 1956, but if that's some Eastern Bloc car, hell, sometimes they were so far behind the times style-wise that it could be some 2010 concept car! :P

fintail

Looks like a GAZ Chaika...the commie top brass liked Packards. And indeed, I think these things were in production til ca. 1980. Production started ca. 1958 I think...I don't know if anything changed during that span.

lokki

Fintail gets the prize

I personally kind of like the Packard/Lincoln lovechild look.

Mr_Shiftright

Perfect---they took 3 ugly cars and stole the worst features off all three! There's a certain genius in that. :confuse:

seminole_kev

Guesses? (if it hasn't already been hit in this topic like every other car ever made on earth! ;-)

lokki

Tail looks like a 240Z to me and the wheels look like cheap American off-the-shelf stuff. Plates are foreign but I don't know what country.

My first guess is a 240Z with an American V-8 stuffed in it?

seminole_kev

well you're right about the American V8 under the hood, but that's where the trail goes cold.

To narrow it down, it isn't Japanese.

Mr_Shiftright

Is it a Monteverdi from Switzerland?

andys120

That looks like a Jensen badge on the hood. Is it a variant of the 1970s Jensen Interceptor or FF, those normally had four exposed headlights?

fintail

French plates anyway

I see the Montverdi influence too

seminole_kev

Andy's was pretty darn close.

It is a Jensen Nova. Basically an Interceptor that was rebodied by Vignale. I have to say I prefer its styling to the regular Interceptor.

There was a nice article on it in the February issue of "Classic & Sports Car" (UK)

stevedebi

OK, so what about the car behind?