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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    Maybe you're lucky :P Go to my link above for more...
  • jbolltjbollt Member Posts: 736
    hehe....yes, I did! Thanks...very, ah, interesting car.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    Then you'll appreciate my post elsewhere:

    GTI post
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Oh inspired by a Dual-Ghia. THAT explains his sense of bad taste completely. I mean, any car Sinatra thinks is "cool" has got to be Sopranos-level style at its best.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    AHHHH MY EYES.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    I made the mistake of looking that one up - Hideous!
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    Here a bigger pic Ugliest Dual Ghia, and that's saying something!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Where's a roadside bomb when you really need one?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Rumors abound that the ZOMBIE CAR FROM HELL is not dead after all!!!

    http://www.globalautoindex.com/maker.plt?no=1118
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    According to Wikipedia: Ronald Reagan owned one, which he lost in a high-stakes poker game with then-President Lyndon Johnson, who kept the car for several years.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,557
    I saw one of the new style coupe versions of that not long ago. Not a beauty.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    Oh joy! A Hummer clone by Studebaker just in time for $4 fuel. As they say, "Timing is everything"

    james
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Front end of that car was inspired by this:

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I have this theory that it takes just as much genius to do everything completely wrong and fail spectacularly as it does to do it completely right and be a smashing success.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,755
    Most complete failures would probably agree with you.. :surprise:

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think to be a really GREAT failure you can't agree with anyone about anything.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,755
    I'm sure I disagree.... ;)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,557
    Audi?

    I guess the Subaru front ends are the small mouth variety
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    My pic was in reponse to the yellow car pictured above. It's that wide oval grille opening that looks like a bass' mouth.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's got to be French...is it a Panhard? (pronounced: pan-AR)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,557
    Yep that's a Panhard
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    Yes-how about year and model?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    This is actually a concept car so doesn't count for our rules, but I thought you'd all like to see this. If you're sharp, you might recognize what previously existing car this is based upon. In a way, it is remarkably predictive of what we'd call a "crossover" car today.

    This car was listed on eBay recently as a 1960 model, which is about right given the styling.

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    AFTER you guess, you can read about the car here:

    Concept Car
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    Some GM Corvair-based thing?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,557
    The only Panhard I can remember is the Dyna...the rest had alpha-numeric names I think
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Let's see: the stacked h/ls are straight off a '63 Pontiac but that's a Corvair windshield ('60-'64) and there's no grille so it almost has to be 'Vair based.

    I didn't cheat, I swear.

    P.S, the Panhard is a PL-17 (1959-64) ergo roughly contemporary with the Gen I Corvair.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    Yes, this one's labeled a 1961 PL17, same model that was the "Panhard of Martin driven to victory at the Monte Carlo Rally in 1961" Not your normal looking race car.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You are both Ker-rect!

    Aside from the hideous front end, I rather like this car. I think GM should build it with a Subaru drivetrain and have at least one interesting car in their lineup.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    60's VW fastback? Not sure of the exact model names they used for these guys though. Always liked the various styles of these cars they made.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    AKA the Type 3, they came as fastback, squareback and notchback. My sis had a squareback, seemed to hold a lot (this was 30 years ago).
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Always like those cars. I thought they used space well, were easy to drive, good on gas, and of course this model was a pioneer for mass-produced fuel injection in 1968.

    Not so easy to pull the engine out though, like on a Bug.
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    My folks owned a '67 Squareback. We drove it from CA to NY and back in the summer of '71. I was almost 8, my sister had just turned 4 and the folks folded the back seat down and stuffed all but a 2'x3' rectangle for me (my sister rode on my mom's lap, IIRC).

    Then, in Illinois, they bought a large milk jug and stuffed it in back with me!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    So basically...

    Squareback = station wagon
    notchback = coupe
    fastback = 3 door hatch

    Sound about right?

    In Brazil we got what VW called a Brasilia and a longer wheelbase model called a Variant. The Variant must've been the squareback, IIRC.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yeah you got it right although Liftback might be a better name for the fastback VWs.

    Notchbacks were also sometimes sedans.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Squareback = station wagon
    notchback = coupe
    fastback = 3 door hatch

    Nope, the Fastback was not a hatchback, the motor took up all the room back there, which of course means it was pointless to provide a sloped rear.

    Juice, I think the Brazilian Variant might have been based on the 412, or was that the Caribe :confuse:?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Dunno. They both looked the same, except the Variant was basically longer.

    Oddly, both only had 2 side doors.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    No idea, but looks pretty from that angle.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Toyota 2000GT.
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    Doesn't look like a 2000 GT to me at all.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    Baffling - is it some Brit cottage-industry car? Looks Italian, though...grill logo doesn't ring a bell, either. Wheels almost look Buick or Ford. And then there's the slight Stingray look of the rear fenders and back window, what little I can see.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    You're on the right track, it not only "looks Italian", mostly it IS Italian. Here's another angle>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    I gave up, took a look - here are some hints for others - Italian+American, founded by Hungarian-American, later did a Mustang...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That thar is an Intermecceanica Indra I believe.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Frank Reisner wasn't American he was a Hungarian-Canadian, he was educated in the US tho.

    Sorry Shifty, it's an Intermeccanica Italia, the Indra was a later car w fastback styling.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,143
    More history info here http://www.intermeccanica.org/

    They're still making Porshe Speedster clones, see here

    http://www.intermeccanica.com/
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ah, well...close...Indras also came in convertibles as I recall.....

    Okay, now I'm going to get ugly:

    This is a ?????

    (Not All At Once, Please)

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Auto Union Munga, I think - or something like that. It was the standard Jeep/L-Rover equivalent for a number of European Nato armies in 60's/70's eg Germany & Netherlands, but I don't think it was ever seriously marketed to civilians - perhaps police forces etc, but not, say, farmers.. We didn't see these in UK, generally, as no RHD, and our forces obviously had the Land Rover by then.

    I think it might be related to the VW Iglis, which was a later model developed for the same role, again with limited civilian availability.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Very good as usual! Actually, it's called the DKW Munga 4, but after consulting with our contest experts, we have decided to award you the prize.
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