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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    48 Packard
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    48 Packard

    Yup.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Opel Rekord. Think it's a Rekord C... wait, all that chrome.. might be the fancier one, the Commodore.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yup,'69 Opel Commodore ;)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • done37done37 Member Posts: 64
    ferrari 328gtb. Maybe not a GTB, but I am sure it is a 328
  • done37done37 Member Posts: 64
    Awwee! It must be a 328GTS
  • hudsonthedoghudsonthedog Member Posts: 552
    I remember the Merkur, (pronounce mare-KOOR) but Americans mostly likely pronounced it "Merk-er." I guess your car was the wild XRTi. I remember them when they were new and thought they were so futuristic. Merkur later came out with the much more conventional Scorpio.
    Yes, in 1986 the only Merkur was the XR4Ti. I loved the car (great styling, roomy interior, good handling), in general, but I had a few problems with it (bad turbo, bad gas mileage, automatic). And I looked into moving up to the Scorpio, but it was tough to find a stick.
  • hudsonthedoghudsonthedog Member Posts: 552
    That's Frua styling which suggests a Maserati, Monteverdi or De Tomaso.

    I think it's a De Tomaso Longchamps ('73-'89).

    The Maserati Kyalami was nearly identical except for the Trident grille.

    I really like the Monteverdi, deTomaso, and Maserati coupes, but this car isn't any of them.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    If it's a 328, then it's a 328GTS (S=Spyder, B=Barchetta.. that's a targa, hence Spyder)

    However since Andy said "Not what you think" it COULD be a 208GTB.. but I thought those died after 1985.. although I suppose a VERY late 208 could have the new front end of a 328.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    That's it Brentwood, it's a 1990 Ferrari 208 GTB Turbo, it used the same tiny V8 as the earlier 208s with a Turbo added.

    BTW, I'm pretty sure the B in GTB stands for "Berlinetta", literally little sedan, or coupe. A "Barchetta", literally little canoe, is an open car.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    ...and the movie.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    1956 Desoto, a beautifully-shaped car of its era. The front fender has a part of the stylish "F" from Fireflite for the model name.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Who knows the movie star and what flick the shot is from?

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  • jescuejescue Member Posts: 521
    Vertigo
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yep, Vertigo is a treasure trove old cars, we'll be seeing more of it later. I guess no one recognized Jimmy Stewart, an icon of American movies. :(

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    '72 Maverick GT? Friend had one with the 302 in high school, not much to look at, but it could go!
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,942
    '68 Chevelle, '67 Mustang in the front..

    Looks like about a '68 Chevy pickup in the traffic lane..

    BTW, I knew everything on the Jimmy Stewart picture, except the car... lol.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Dazed and Confused!

    OK... off to the left, mid-70s GM Pickup.

    Crusing through the lot to the left is a 71-2 or so Chevy Pickup.

    Farthest to the back is a VW Beetle, then in front of the beetle we have what looks like 2 57 Plymouths.

    Next row looks like a Dodge Dart, then a 59 Ford, then a 76 or so Chevy Pickup, then about a 57 Chevy pickup.

    In the front we have a 72 Chevelle SS and a 67-68 Mustang.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,942
    Did you notice? The age of the residential area doesn't seem to match the cars... Houses look like late '70s, early '80s.. Newest car is pre-'70..

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,942
    Ahh.. missed the '70s pickup..

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,035
    the DeSoto in Vertigo was actually a '56 Firedome, not a Fireflite. You can't see it in that pic, but the biggest tipoff is that the Firedome had chrome surrounds for the headlights, while the Fireflite had body-colored surrounds that jutted out a bit ahead of the headlight at the top, giving it a more sleek and agressive, and less bug-eyed look.

    I can't read the script on the fin ahead of the fuel filler door, but I wonder if this particular car was one of those stripper Firedome Seville models? In 1956, DeSoto used the Seville nameplate as a sub-series of the Firedome. Basically stripped down a bit with a more spartan interior, and I think a base price maybe $100 less. I'm guessing that script either says "Seville" or "Sportsman", which is a name DeSoto tacked onto their hardtop models, kinda like how Buick did with "Riviera" or Olds with "Holiday"

    I always thought that Vertigo DeSoto was really classy looking, in all white with no 2-toning.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    The text on the tailfin looks like "Sportsman" more than "Seville." Wow for andre1969 and your memory for details on these Chrysler products.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    That's a tasty one. From L to R I see:

    -An unidentifiable p'up at the top w a sedan parked behind.

    -Below it is a Chevy or GMC Crew Cab prolly early 70s, then there's a black '69-'70 Chevy/GMC facing the camera.

    -I can't make out the black over white 4-door parked next to the black pickup. It is facing a '70 or '71 Malibu (not neccessarily an SS, stripes were optional on any Malibu)).

    -To the Malibu's left is a red '67 or '68 Mustang convertible.

    -The Mustang is facing a couple of Chevy or GMC p'ups the blue one is a mid-late 70's design. The White over turquoise is a mid-late 50s and they are parked next to a '58 or '59 Ford, prolly a Galaxie.

    --Behind 'em are two MoPars from the "Forward Look" era. The white one looks like a '58 or '59 Plymouth but it could be a Chrysler. The White over Red looks like a '59
    Plymouth and behind that might be a white VW Bug.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It is a 302 Maverick but it's advertised as a "Grabber" not a GT.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    I think the black/white facing the Chevelle is a Studebaker or Packard from the era where they merged. Like this 1957 President.image

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,035
    The two Forward Look Mopars in the back are a '57 Plymouth Fury (the "real" Fury before the name was watered down) and a '59 Plymouth Fury (the watered down type) 4-door. Here's a pic of them from another angle...

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    Actually, the red/white '59 might not be a Fury, but a cheaper model like a Savoy/Belevedere. I thought the nicer models had the "toilet seat" spare tire hump in the trunklid...unless that was just the Sport Fury?
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,035
    parked behind the Chevelle, you can see it a bit better here...
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    Looks like one of those funky '62 Plymouths to me. The "Plucked Chicken", I think Exner called it?
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Didn't the Fury have a round logo on the tailfins? I guess the red car is either a Belvedere or Savoy.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
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  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Looks like a white '89 or so Pontiac Trans Am (turbo I think) pace car model in the background.... :shades:

    -Brian
  • done37done37 Member Posts: 64
    Well, its got Pontiac Black Mesh rims, the car on the other side of the street is a Fiero. Problem, its nothing like a Fiero from the back, but it has a rear engine lay out that would negate firebird. Hmm???
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    maybe both are Fire-o's (sorry, Fiero's :P ), just the red one is some custom job? I too thought the black rims on the red one looked like Pontiac wheels, mostly remembered from the turbo Trans Am

    -Brian
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    ehhehehe
  • done37done37 Member Posts: 64
    You could be right Brian about the red one being a Fiero that is customized. If it is, its a very nice kit and complex too.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Toyota MR2, 2nd gen?

    Though I don't know why anyone would do that to it.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    If only we could see the front; if the headlights were permanently "up", then it's a Fiero... :P
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Ok, that white one in back has to be an '84 Fiero pace car.

    That red thing certainly looks Pontiac-like with the side light markers and most certainly the black wheels. I'm farily certain those are the same wheels used on the turbo Trans Am, I use to see a bunch of those race at Great Lakes Dragstrip when I worked there.

    So, is it some sort of Pontiac concept or heavily modded Pontiac 2 door (which would either be a Fiero or TransAm/Firebird)? It's gotta be a Pontiac of some sort, just looks like one from the side.

    -Brian
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    The car that was supposed to have been the gen2 Fiero?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Bingo 1990 Fiero prototype . They only made one.

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    Can you say half priced NSX?
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    Typical GM as soon as they get the car just right they kill it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,942
    I was guessing modified Trans Am or Camaro...

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  • done37done37 Member Posts: 64
    Cute, last picture of a NSX. What a transformation!! :P
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Look at how close the production NSX was to the prototype Fiero though. I mean if GM had gone through with it with the NSX out around the same time but the Fiero at less then half the price can you imagine what would have happened?

    I doubt they could have kept production up with demand.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    for a short time. It's relatively easy to remove the body panels and substitute others so there was a small cottrage industry making modification pieces. There was one setup that transformed your Fiero into a 308 GTS look-alike
    (well sorta). ;)

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  • done37done37 Member Posts: 64
    It seems to me when Pontiac made the body design cleaner and more ferrariesque you could say in 1988, I thought sales started to climb. The overheating problems and bugs were basically fixed. How could GM give up then. It was a shame. :(
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