From left to right, 1958 Chevy (I can't make out anything behind it), 1957 Buick, an awesome DKW F89 microbus (how many of those could there have been in the US?), and a lovely early Karmann-Ghia with nice period tires. Great shot.
I can't make out the blue & white SW, it could be a '58 Chevy but the movie was released in '58 so it might be a '57 Ford.
Nice call on the DKW bus. The correct moniker is DKW F89L "Luxusbus" according to the Mavens at IMCDB. They refer to the K-G the VW Type 14. Note the furled back cloth sunroof on the Ghia, well it is California.
I think a 57 Ford had more of an upright angle to the window slant. I was almost thinking it was a 59 Ford until I saw the dare of the film.
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No, the second gen was '92-'95, they were the first to have A/Ts the Third gen got the V8, A/T only which really blew off their core buyers. These were based on the infamous Ovoid Taurusi (1996-2002?).
Both the 3.0 V6 and the V8 were designed and built by Yamaha. I think Yamaha designed the V8 in the Volvo S80 & XC-90.
Yep, the SHO shifter had pretty long throws. The controls of that car were out of phase with one another, you had a heavy shifter and clutch but brakes and throttle that were light. It was tough to drive one smoothly. Like I said great motor, so-so car.
In high school I knew a girl who had one, it was a "L" model, we called it the "Festival". I remember a bunch of us guys got together, picked it up, and moved it into an entryway of a school building. She wasn't happy for some reason
Given that US cars have a model year instead of a calender year, presumably that would mean this car was actually built in the 12 months to August 39, which is of course prewar to us as well.
Heh, Heh..it would be if weren't a Canadian market car, originally sold in T'rono. The makes it a '58 Pontiac Parisienne. The Parisienne name was later used in the US during the 70's for the Pontiac clone of the Impala.
You've gotta get up pretty early to fool Lemko on a GM car, and resort to dirty tricks.
I think that station wagon is a '58 Chevy. IIRC, the '57-58 Mercury wagons were only offered as hardtops, and the '57-58 Fords only had one big window in the rear doors, no quarter window.
I guessed Bonneville on the Pontiac so I was wrong also. Is there ANY difference between the Parisiene and Bonneville?
I'm not sure about the 1958 model, but Canadian Pontiacs were traditionally on the shorter Chevy wheelbase. In 1957 that would have been 117.5" for a Chevy, 122" versus for the cheaper U.S. Pontiacs, and 124" for the nicer ones. Canadian Pontiacs also used Chevy engines and transmissions, but had Pontiac interiors and Pontiac exterior sheetmetal and trim.
If the '58 Parisienne is based on the Chevy of that year and not the Bonneville, I imagine it would be around 6-8 inches shorter than a Bonneville. It still looks pretty long in that picture, though, and when cars get that long, sometimes it's easy to "hide" an extra half-foot or so!
Based on the 1st generation Honda Odyssey, both the Oasis and the Odyssey were compact with 4 cylinders. I think they would be competitive with the smaller mini-vans popping up today like the Kia Rondo, Mazda 5.
I'm not terribly familiar w Canadian Ponchos but I think Andre is probably right about the Chevy innards. The blurb says the the original Turbo-glide tranny was swapped out for a Power-glide?? The motor was a 348. Neither rings a bell to me.
I can't see enough of the Buick behind it to tell the exact year but it looks like a '55 to me. It's definitely not a '57 or '58, the tailfins would be more prominent.
The blurb says the the original Turbo-glide tranny was swapped out for a Power-glide?? The motor was a 348. Neither rings a bell to me.
Yeah, that's definitely Chevy innards. The 348 is an old big-block truck motor that was drafted into passenger car duty, and a couple years later would be massaged into the legendary 409. I've heard that TurboGlides were troublesome, whereas the PowerGlide was pretty rugged. So doing that swap, you'd go from a 3-speed to a 2-speed, but it probably cured a lot of durability/reliability woes.
A "real" 1958 Pontiac would have had a Hydramatic 4-speed automatic transmission and an engine of something like 370 or 371 CID. I always get the Olds and Pontiac CIDs mixed up that year, as they were very close. Anyway, that's the Pontiac engine that started off in 1955 as a 287 or so, and would ultimately become the 389, 421, 400, 428, and 455.
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Yep, Lagonda 3-litre Saloon, 1953-58. Interestingly Lagonda was founded by an American in 1906.
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Nice call on the DKW bus. The correct moniker is DKW F89L "Luxusbus" according to the Mavens at IMCDB. They refer to the K-G the VW Type 14. Note the furled back cloth sunroof on the Ghia, well it is California.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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Yep, I sat behind one for four years, mine was a 1991 the last year of the first Gen. It was a great engine in search of a good car.
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the Third gen got the V8, A/T only which really blew off their core buyers. These were based on the infamous Ovoid Taurusi
(1996-2002?).
Both the 3.0 V6 and the V8 were designed and built by Yamaha. I think Yamaha designed the V8 in the Volvo S80 & XC-90.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I grovel at your collective feet and beg forgiveness
Cancelled when the Escort was introduced for 1981.
Why doesn't Ford raid their excellent European lineup today???? (Merkur's failure here scare 'em off??? :confuse: )
I remember driving a 1st Gen SHO with the MT. For some reason I don't remember that tranny being a smooth shifter and it had long throws IIRC.
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In high school I knew a girl who had one, it was a "L" model, we called it the "Festival". I remember a bunch of us guys got together, picked it up, and moved it into an entryway of a school building. She wasn't happy for some reason
If so, it's a Crying Shame Crossover!
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Close, it's a '78 280Z.
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
This HAS to be a 1958 something, the year Detroit dropped acid!
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Heh, Heh..it would be if weren't a Canadian market car, originally sold in T'rono. The makes it a '58 Pontiac
Parisienne. The Parisienne name was later used in the US during the 70's for the Pontiac clone of the Impala.
You've gotta get up pretty early to fool Lemko on a GM car, and resort to dirty tricks.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I guessed Bonneville on the Pontiac so I was wrong also. Is there ANY difference between the Parisiene and Bonneville?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I think that station wagon is a '58 Chevy. IIRC, the '57-58 Mercury wagons were only offered as hardtops, and the '57-58 Fords only had one big window in the rear doors, no quarter window.
I'm not sure about the 1958 model, but Canadian Pontiacs were traditionally on the shorter Chevy wheelbase. In 1957 that would have been 117.5" for a Chevy, 122" versus for the cheaper U.S. Pontiacs, and 124" for the nicer ones. Canadian Pontiacs also used Chevy engines and transmissions, but had Pontiac interiors and Pontiac exterior sheetmetal and trim.
If the '58 Parisienne is based on the Chevy of that year and not the Bonneville, I imagine it would be around 6-8 inches shorter than a Bonneville. It still looks pretty long in that picture, though, and when cars get that long, sometimes it's easy to "hide" an extra half-foot or so!
I can't see enough of the Buick behind it to tell the exact year but it looks like a '55 to me. It's definitely not a '57 or '58, the tailfins would be more prominent.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Yeah, that's definitely Chevy innards. The 348 is an old big-block truck motor that was drafted into passenger car duty, and a couple years later would be massaged into the legendary 409. I've heard that TurboGlides were troublesome, whereas the PowerGlide was pretty rugged. So doing that swap, you'd go from a 3-speed to a 2-speed, but it probably cured a lot of durability/reliability woes.
A "real" 1958 Pontiac would have had a Hydramatic 4-speed automatic transmission and an engine of something like 370 or 371 CID. I always get the Olds and Pontiac CIDs mixed up that year, as they were very close. Anyway, that's the Pontiac engine that started off in 1955 as a 287 or so, and would ultimately become the 389, 421, 400, 428, and 455.