Mystery car pix

done37

I think your right about the TV ad. The only comparison however was both having 4 doors and a straight six!

done37

I take that back. Only the straight six.
:P

andys120

A Lagonda or something? ca. 1955 anyway.

Yep, Lagonda 3-litre Saloon, 1953-58. Interestingly Lagonda was founded by an American in 1906.

andys120

From Vertigo (1958)>

fintail

From left to right, 1958 Chevy (I can't make out anything behind it), 1957 Buick, an awesome DKW F89 microbus (how many of those could there have been in the US?), and a lovely early Karmann-Ghia with nice period tires. Great shot.

andys120

I can't make out the blue & white SW, it could be a '58 Chevy but the movie was released in '58 so it might be a '57 Ford.

Nice call on the DKW bus. The correct moniker is DKW F89L "Luxusbus" according to the Mavens at IMCDB. They refer to the K-G the VW Type 14. Note the furled back cloth sunroof on the Ghia, well it is California.

Mr_Shiftright

andys120

I ever sat behind, the car should've come with a clear plastic hood>

andys120

'46 or '47 Lincoln coupe IIRC.

fintail

I think a 57 Ford had more of an upright angle to the window slant. I was almost thinking it was a 59 Ford until I saw the dare of the film.

I used to spend too much time at IMCDB - but it became very competitive and time consuming. I just logged back in...it's a great site, people at least as obsessive as us.

fintail

It's a Lincoln Zephyr ca. 1939 - some here wish to see only postwar material...but I have no problem with the real oldies :P

fintail

Taurus SHO...I will guess 1992-94

subearu

3.0L V6 from a Ford Taurus SHO, likely the 1st Gen version putting out about 220hp

-Brian

kyfdx

2nd Gen had a V-8, right? The V-6 was by Yamaha.

andys120

3.0L V6 from a Ford Taurus SHO, likely the 1st Gen version putting out about 220hp

Yep, I sat behind one for four years, mine was a 1991 the last year of the first Gen. It was a great engine in search of a good car.

andys120

No, the second gen was '92-'95, they were the first to have A/Ts
the Third gen got the V8, A/T only which really blew off their core buyers. These were based on the infamous Ovoid Taurusi
(1996-2002?).

Both the 3.0 V6 and the V8 were designed and built by Yamaha. I think Yamaha designed the V8 in the Volvo S80 & XC-90.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

Kerrect...oh that's right, we did have a ban against pre-war!

I grovel at your collective feet and beg forgiveness

karsick

Americanized Ford Fiesta (1978-1980). Shown is the base model (not the Ghia or the "S").

Cancelled when the Escort was introduced for 1981.

Why doesn't Ford raid their excellent European lineup today???? (Merkur's failure here scare 'em off??? :confuse: )

subearu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_V8_engine

I remember driving a 1st Gen SHO with the MT. For some reason I don't remember that tranny being a smooth shifter and it had long throws IIRC.

-Brian

andys120

Yep it's a First Gen Fiesta, nice looking car, too bad they were utter crap. I think the next gen was built by Kia.

andys120

Yep, the SHO shifter had pretty long throws. The controls of that car were out of phase with one another, you had a heavy shifter and clutch but brakes and throttle that were light. It was tough to drive one smoothly. Like I said great motor, so-so car.

imidazol97

Could the station wagon be a 57 Mercury?

fintail

Yep, that was the Festiva, aka Mazda 121.

In high school I knew a girl who had one, it was a "L" model, we called it the "Festival". I remember a bunch of us guys got together, picked it up, and moved it into an entryway of a school building. She wasn't happy for some reason

Mr_Shiftright

I never thought I'd live to see the day:

karsick

Looks very Walter De Silva, and the nose looks very Alfa Romeo-ish.

If so, it's a Crying Shame Crossover!

Mr_Shiftright

Yes an Alfa Crossdresser---er....crossover....and it probably will be built.....just kill me now

magnette

Given that US cars have a model year instead of a calender year, presumably that would mean this car was actually built in the 12 months to August 39, which is of course prewar to us as well.

andys120

jescue

Datsun 240z

stickguy

big bumpers, probably a 260Z

Mr_Shiftright

Yeah looks like an interim year between purity and ugliness for that series in the Two Hundreds. The 260Z had its problems and didn't last long.

andys120

big bumpers, probably a 260Z

Close, it's a '78 280Z.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

I like the JATO assist behind the doors. Very handy for on-ramps.

This HAS to be a 1958 something, the year Detroit dropped acid!

imidazol97

And a 1958 Buick Super or Special.

lemko

That's a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville

andys120

That's a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville

Heh, Heh..it would be if weren't a Canadian market car, originally sold in T'rono. The makes it a '58 Pontiac
Parisienne. The Parisienne name was later used in the US during the 70's for the Pontiac clone of the Impala.

You've gotta get up pretty early to fool Lemko on a GM car, and resort to dirty tricks.

andys120

fintail

1946 Mercury

imidazol97

But what about the other car in the picture? 1958 Buick? special? Super?

I guessed Bonneville on the Pontiac so I was wrong also. Is there ANY difference between the Parisiene and Bonneville?

fintail

I think the car in the background is a 55-56 Buick

andre1969

Could the station wagon be a 57 Mercury?

I think that station wagon is a '58 Chevy. IIRC, the '57-58 Mercury wagons were only offered as hardtops, and the '57-58 Fords only had one big window in the rear doors, no quarter window.

andre1969

I guessed Bonneville on the Pontiac so I was wrong also. Is there ANY difference between the Parisiene and Bonneville?

I'm not sure about the 1958 model, but Canadian Pontiacs were traditionally on the shorter Chevy wheelbase. In 1957 that would have been 117.5" for a Chevy, 122" versus for the cheaper U.S. Pontiacs, and 124" for the nicer ones. Canadian Pontiacs also used Chevy engines and transmissions, but had Pontiac interiors and Pontiac exterior sheetmetal and trim.

If the '58 Parisienne is based on the Chevy of that year and not the Bonneville, I imagine it would be around 6-8 inches shorter than a Bonneville. It still looks pretty long in that picture, though, and when cars get that long, sometimes it's easy to "hide" an extra half-foot or so!

bumpy

jescue

The popular Isuzu Oasis.

done37

Based on the 1st generation Honda Odyssey, both the Oasis and the Odyssey were compact with 4 cylinders. I think they would be competitive with the smaller mini-vans popping up today like the Kia Rondo, Mazda 5.

andys120

I'm not terribly familiar w Canadian Ponchos but I think Andre is probably right about the Chevy innards. The blurb says the the original Turbo-glide tranny was swapped out for a Power-glide?? The motor was a 348. Neither rings a bell to me.

I can't see enough of the Buick behind it to tell the exact year but it looks like a '55 to me. It's definitely not a '57 or '58, the tailfins would be more prominent.

andys120

andre1969

The blurb says the the original Turbo-glide tranny was swapped out for a Power-glide?? The motor was a 348. Neither rings a bell to me.

Yeah, that's definitely Chevy innards. The 348 is an old big-block truck motor that was drafted into passenger car duty, and a couple years later would be massaged into the legendary 409. I've heard that TurboGlides were troublesome, whereas the PowerGlide was pretty rugged. So doing that swap, you'd go from a 3-speed to a 2-speed, but it probably cured a lot of durability/reliability woes.

A "real" 1958 Pontiac would have had a Hydramatic 4-speed automatic transmission and an engine of something like 370 or 371 CID. I always get the Olds and Pontiac CIDs mixed up that year, as they were very close. Anyway, that's the Pontiac engine that started off in 1955 as a 287 or so, and would ultimately become the 389, 421, 400, 428, and 455.