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  • 727727 Member Posts: 9
    Hmm... Jensen Interceptor I believe
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Looks a little like an Interceptor but that's not even close. This baffling mystery car was the 1966-67 OSI 20M TS. OSI=Officina Stampaggio Industriale SpA
    was a small firm which made cars and tools for the then growing Carrozzeria industry of Northern Italy.

    You'd never know from it's sleek looks but the OSI 20M was powered by a small German Ford Taunus motor and wasn't close to the sleek Monteverdis and Jensens it resembled in performance or prestige. About 2000 were made.

    lMore here on a car that some considered the "most Beautiful Ford" (hadn't they ever seen a GT-40?)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Hyundai Genesis.

    Available with two V6's (3.3 and 3.8L) and one V8 (4.6L - 380HP).

    Base price expected to be less than $30K ... I wonder what the V8 will sell for?

    PS - I read AutoBlog, too, andy :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Wow that front sure looks like an Acura RL.

    Maybe it's just the headlights, and the angle.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    [non-permissible content removed] child of a Lexus, Infiniti, and BMW (must have been an ugly threesome)? :P

    But hey, at least they are trying.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Votes are leaning towards the Genesis being a MB "copy" over in this thread:

    joe97, "Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?" #1092, 8 Jan 2008 6:22 am

    Y'all may be interested in the standard features listed in that post.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Sorry - I've been away from this page for a few days, due to a few problems, and as a result didn't post the answer to the grey coupe from the Frankfurt Motor Show.
    It is an Artega GT - it's going into production, - they had 2 on the stand and have certainly made a few more already as their brochure showed a couple more - it has a VW 3.5 litre V6, carbon fibre body, weighs about 2400 lbs and allegedly attains 168mph. Nice car...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Votes are leaning towards the Genesis being a MB "copy"

    Actually it's a copy of a copy of a Mercedes S-Class. What goes around comes around. In 1990 Lexus set the car world on it's ear by making a credible copy of an S-Class for a fraction of the cost--Mercedes is still recovering. Now along comes Hyundai with a credible(?) copy of the LS for a fraction of the cost.....

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    True, and think about it, 10 years from now the Chinese will do the same thing to Hyundai!

    Still, think about the bargain the LS was back then, just over $30k for a RWD V8 lux sedan.

    Sound familiar?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    I'd say the Genesis is more of a GS copy than LS.

    Does that mean a fully loaded Hyundai will top out at 100K (equivalent) in 20 years like a Lexus does now?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Lamborghini Iselro - about 1969
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yep it's the Islero.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's located low and forward>
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Saab - 93 ?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Saab - 93 ?

    Close but no cigar.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,109
    Saab Sonett?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Nope, not a Sonett. Take a good look at that motor guys.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,980
    Looks like a V-4.. What else are we looking for?

    Sorry.. Saabs from the '70s are not my strong suit.. :(

    EDIT: Saab 99?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Looks like a V-4.. What else are we looking for?

    The correct name of the Saab that used it is what we're looking for.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Y'all have failed to identify the Mystery Motor or any of the three Saabs that utilized it.
    the motor (as Kfdyx said) is a V4 sourced from Ford-Werke AG that was designed for Ford's first FWD car, the Cologne- built Taunus 12M.

    The 1498cc 4-banger was used by Saab beginning in 1963 when it replaced the DKW-based two-stroke in the Saab 96 , it's wagon derivative the Saab 95 and eventually starting in 1968, the Saab Sonnet II/Sonnet V4.

    The V4 shown is under the hood of a Saab 96.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    A knock off of a '67 Camaro that melted in the sun?

    The Grill looks like it came from a Pinto.

    Some kind of English or Aussie Ford?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Some kind of English or Aussie Ford?

    Ford yes but neither British, Aussie (nor German). Hint: it's the second production car from FoMoCo to have FWD.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This looks like a South American Ford - possibly Argentinian ? The name Corcel springs to mind, but I don't really know. I would imagine this is mid sixties...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    This looks like a South American Ford - possibly Argentinian ? The name Corcel springs to mind, but I don't really know. I would imagine this is mid sixties...

    It is indeed a Ford Corcel but it's not from The Argentine, it's from Ford do Brasil and is actually a derivative of the Renault 12, which was supposed to replace the Dauphine when Ford acquired Willys-Overland in 1968 (apparently they had a deal with Renault). The pictured car is a 1976 model.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    easily, I wonder if the attractive two-tone paint is custom>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Well, its a Mercedes-Benz ponton, so 54-60, but as for the model - over to fintail... I wouldn't imagine the paintwork is original though....
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    It's a W180 or W128 ponton, not possible to tell in the pic...and yep, that paint is custom.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's a 1957 220S residing in Montevideo, Uruguay.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    60's vintage Spridget?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Nice photo, that's a Turner Sports ca. early 60s wearing aftermarket Minilite style wheels and American racing colors (notwithstanding the UK plate). These were seldom seen on American steets but more often seen in Production Sports racing.

    The tonneau cover and lack of roll bar suggests this car was not a racer. :shades:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • hudsonthedoghudsonthedog Member Posts: 552
    1946 or 1947 Nash
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Yes, andy, it is indeed a Turner - this one is a Mark III, one of the last, from 1965. This model used a veritable parts-bin of contemporary British cars, with Ford engine (this one was a 1498cc version as in the Mk1 Cortina GT) and it had Triumph Herald steering and front suspension...A nice little roadster...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    It's a Nash, but I would say 1948, as it has the short chrome moulding on the side of the bonnet, instead of the through chrome strip down the side as in 46/7. I think it's an Ambassador...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Geez, you are amazing, it is a 1948 Nash but it's not an Ambassador, it's a 600 Super (whatever that is).

    You made my day with that sweet little Turner (I knew it had some Triumph in it).

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Still is from an obscure (West) German TV show that ran 1965-70>

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    I count four identiable vehicles in this shot. Have at 'em. :shades:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    That looks like a Rover badge on the nose but I can't place it. The car across the street, behind the person, is an MGF and a silver

    Puegeot Something-0-Something is in front of it.

    One out of five ain't bad. :sick:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    I see a MB on the left, and on the right a VW bus and Beetle. Not idea on the main one. :sick:
  • tncarmantncarman Member Posts: 82
    Oh, isn't that a City Rover that's basically a rebadged Tata?
  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    Another Yank guess :P .....

    Can't name the red hatch (although it bears a resemblance to a Vauxhall Corsa with a Rover badge), but I'd say the silver hatch across the street is a Renault Clio (before Renault got all "Avantime" in their designs).

    The SUV behind the MGF is, perhaps, a Ford Maverick,

    ... and behind the SUV is a silver mid-90's Ford Escort 5dr.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    The police car is a 'baroque angel' BMW 502, behind it is a lowline MB ponton, and at right a VW transporter and a ca. 1960 beetle.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Yes - this is a Rover Cityrover, late 2003 - a re-badged Tata Indicar, which was a not particularly successful last-ditch attempt by the failing Rover group to get some sales. They must have sold a couple of thousand of these but you don't actually see many, and the average age of the drivers seems to be about 75...
    Ironically, the Tata group are expected to be the 'preferred bidder' for the Land-Rover/Jaguar sell-off by Ford in the next few weeks.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    The cars in shot with the Cityrover are -

    Renault Clio
    MG F
    London Taxi (this one is a TX1, I think)
    Ford Escort
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I've just got a lot of books - and since posting that I've actually found the same shot - including the background, same lady behind the bonnet, everything, in another book - it must be the publicity photo that Nash used to create the brochure...
    As for the Turner, it is a nice little thing - apparently you can tell a MkII from a MkIII, as here because this one has the bonnet scoop.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,109
    Bonus if you guess his name, too...
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